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Old 09-20-2025, 12:15 PM   #4651
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Like they just used it this week ffs. It was even on the news!
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Old 09-20-2025, 12:19 PM   #4652
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The new 100k H1B fee comes with the ability for Trump to make exceptions, so it's just more mafia-based government.

Just saw this. Truly insane stuff. At first I thought it was about destroying the health industry more but now it is just a grift for his friends to put smaller businesses under.
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Old 09-20-2025, 01:32 PM   #4653
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How have you followed politics for more than a week and not know what the nuclear option is? They can pass whatever the fuck they want with a simple majority.

I'll just leave it at my previous quote for now. We shall see if they will use the nuclear option for funding bill on Oct 1 or not.

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But I will admit that dynamics have changed quite a bit. I can see the GOP Senate try this now with Trump pressure. But until then, the senators will be loathe to set the precedence and won't successfully do the nuclear option because of all the inherent challenges (e.g. we know its not as easy to do as you proclaim it is).

But as always with you, talk is cheap (e.g. US is not decoupling from China, Philippines is not a democracy, and my favorite ... its a violation of constitutional rights when "when asked by a LEO, just hand over DL, proof of insurance, and registration"). So, let's see on Oct 1 what happens (or not).
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Old 09-20-2025, 04:23 PM   #4654
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The point is that it is all in their control. They control every branch and can pass a CR with a majority vote if they want. They make the rules.
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Old 09-20-2025, 05:23 PM   #4655
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Good thing he confessed in that very real "reproduced" text message exchange. Because an untraceable rifle that there is not a single image or video of him with might have made a tough case.

Rifle that killed Charlie Kirk was older than serial numbers
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Old 09-20-2025, 06:35 PM   #4656
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Didn’t see any dems impeding the investigation into Menendez.

Yes, there are dirty politicians on either side. One side, as has been said already, is magnitudes worse than the other. Also, one side will at least attempt to hold members to some sort of ethics.
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Old 09-20-2025, 08:35 PM   #4657
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The point is that it is all in their control. They control every branch and can pass a CR with a majority vote if they want. They make the rules.

Per my earlier post, we'll find out if it's as easy (and realistic) as you say it to bypass the filibuster for a funding ball by Oct 1.

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Old 09-20-2025, 08:36 PM   #4658
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We'll find out if it's as easy (and realistic) as you say it to bypass the filibuster for a funding ball by Oct 1.

They literally just did this days ago. Easy and realistic. Did you grow up near a lot of lead paint?
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Old 09-20-2025, 08:38 PM   #4659
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Didn’t see any dems impeding the investigation into Menendez.

Yes, there are dirty politicians on either side. One side, as has been said already, is magnitudes worse than the other. Also, one side will at least attempt to hold members to some sort of ethics.

Homan was originally appointed by Obama and he even got a nice award from him.
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Old 09-20-2025, 08:42 PM   #4660
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They literally just did this days ago. Easy and realistic. Did you grow up near a lot of lead paint?

As I said, talk is cheap. Let's see on Oct 1

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Old 09-20-2025, 08:46 PM   #4661
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Whether they pass a CR or not has nothing to do with what I said. I think you know that and just embarrassed you didn't know that they could work around the 60 vote threshold. Point stands that Republicans hold all the power and are responsible for this.
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Old 09-20-2025, 08:46 PM   #4662
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He still thinks asylum means insane people.

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Old 09-20-2025, 08:56 PM   #4663
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Whether they pass a CR or not has nothing to do with what I said. I think you know that and just embarrassed you didn't know that they could work around the 60 vote threshold. Point stands that Republicans hold all the power and are responsible for this.

I think you've just come to realize there is a difference between "theoretically can" vs "realistically can or want to" (and specifically on a funding bill), and hence, my original reference to the game of chicken.

So, we shall see on Oct 1.

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Old 09-20-2025, 09:47 PM   #4664
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That "theoretical" procedure they just did a few days ago.
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Old 09-21-2025, 06:17 AM   #4665
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That "theoretical" procedure they just did a few days ago.

Reading comprehension again.

"theoretical can ... specifically on a funding bill" vs "realistically can or want to ... specifically on a funding bill".

But yeah, I think your talk is cheap. So, Oct 1 is coming up. Let's see how (as you say) "easy and realistic" it is.


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Old 09-21-2025, 11:13 AM   #4666
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Trump ‘border czar’ Tom Homan reportedly accepted $50,000 in cash from undercover FBI agents | Trump administration | The Guardian


If you don't feel like reading, Trump's border czar was caught taking bribes from undercover FBI agents before the election. Everything was dropped after Trump took office.
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Old 09-21-2025, 01:09 PM   #4667
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Oklahoma legislators want to mandate Charlie Kirk statues on all college campuses

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Old 09-21-2025, 01:21 PM   #4668
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Oklahoma legislators want to mandate Charlie Kirk statues on all college campuses

https://legiscan.com/OK/text/SB1187/...Introduced.pdf

Troy Nehls called him the 13th disciple. Kirk was probably one of the least Christ-like people on the planet.

I saw a video of a church using AI to have "Charlie" address their congregation. It was creepy, weird, and got a standing ovation.
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Old 09-21-2025, 02:21 PM   #4669
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Old 09-21-2025, 05:54 PM   #4670
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Tucker gave a eulogy where he said men in a dark room eating hummus decided to kill Kirk.

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Old 09-21-2025, 06:24 PM   #4671
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We are firmly in first episode of the prequel to The Handsmaid's Tale territory, let's be honest.
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Old 09-21-2025, 06:49 PM   #4672
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Old 09-21-2025, 07:51 PM   #4673
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Trump said they've found the answer to autism.

Let me guess ... banning vaccines?
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Old 09-21-2025, 07:52 PM   #4674
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Trump said they've found the answer to autism.

And he announced it at Charlie Kirk's memorial.
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Old 09-21-2025, 07:59 PM   #4675
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actually trump being autistic would explain a lot of things
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Old 09-21-2025, 08:42 PM   #4676
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Let me guess ... banning vaccines?

Tylenol.

Fireworks for Trump's entrance at someone else's memorial service is something.
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Old 09-21-2025, 09:36 PM   #4677
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Sell your kenvue stock while you have the chance.
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Old 09-21-2025, 09:48 PM   #4678
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Ironically, he’s going to absolutely destroy the stock price of an American company and plug a drug as a miracle cure that is manufactured best I can tell by a French company
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Old 09-22-2025, 12:39 PM   #4679
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Good news! We get to bailout Argentina next.

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Old 09-22-2025, 12:57 PM   #4680
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These people are absolutely ridiculous. Charlie Kirk saved lives because his body was so amazing it stopped the bullet from exiting and killing others.

Charlie Kirk ally reveals 'absolute miracle' that may have saved lives during fatal shooting
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Old 09-22-2025, 12:57 PM   #4681
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Tylenol.

Fireworks for Trump's entrance at someone else's memorial service is something.

I confess, I thought this was a joke.
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Old 09-22-2025, 01:13 PM   #4682
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Apparently, according to turning point USA, Charlie Kirk was superman (their words) and his neck stopped the bullet that would have killed others as well.

This entire thing is, without hyperbole, the weirdest shit I've ever seen. They can't seriously claim they aren't in a cult at this point.
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Old 09-22-2025, 01:20 PM   #4683
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You know who else took a bullet and saved lives?
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Old 09-22-2025, 01:33 PM   #4684
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Ironically, he’s going to absolutely destroy the stock price of an American company and plug a drug as a miracle cure that is manufactured best I can tell by a French company

But sold by... Dr. Oz!
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Old 09-22-2025, 01:54 PM   #4685
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These people are absolutely ridiculous. Charlie Kirk saved lives because his body was so amazing it stopped the bullet from exiting and killing others.

Charlie Kirk ally reveals 'absolute miracle' that may have saved lives during fatal shooting

That shit can go through an oak tree. No one's neck is stopping that. Really helping the conspiracy theory industry though.
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Old 09-22-2025, 01:58 PM   #4686
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Being here in Arizona, yesterday was wild. I feel like the Pope could have died and received less pomp and circumstance than Kirk. It is wild how crazy people are about him now. Listen, it's sad and unfortunate that someone took his life, but people are acting like Kirk was the messiah and will come back alive at Easter.
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:21 PM   #4687
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Being here in Arizona, yesterday was wild. I feel like the Pope could have died and received less pomp and circumstance than Kirk. It is wild how crazy people are about him now. Listen, it's sad and unfortunate that someone took his life, but people are acting like Kirk was the messiah and will come back alive at Easter.

I feel like all of the religious people who have taken shit for supporting Trump suddenly see an out by transferring their outpouring of support to Kirk because he was outwardly a Christian and it's easy to shut people down for criticizing his views since he's dead.
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:35 PM   #4688
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I feel like all of the religious people who have taken shit for supporting Trump suddenly see an out by transferring their outpouring of support to Kirk because he was outwardly a Christian and it's easy to shut people down for criticizing his views since he's dead.

White christians have been desperate for a martyr to latch onto.
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:43 PM   #4689
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Being here in Arizona, yesterday was wild. I feel like the Pope could have died and received less pomp and circumstance than Kirk.

Kirk's job wasn't filled by a Socialist in recent years.
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:47 PM   #4690
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:47 PM   #4691
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I feel like all of the religious people who have taken shit for supporting Trump suddenly see an out by transferring their outpouring of support to Kirk because he was outwardly a Christian and it's easy to shut people down for criticizing his views since he's dead.

Evangelicals have very little in common with actual Christianity. It's just a lifestyle brand at this point. And this was an excuse to hold a party and promote the brand. I don't think it's all that deep.
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:49 PM   #4692
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Kimmel has been reinstated. Should be interesting.
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:52 PM   #4693
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Selfishly, I'm a little excited. We have a family trip to Disney World next week and if the right decides to boycott ABC/ESPN/Disney for the Kimmel thing, lines should be super short!
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Old 09-22-2025, 02:57 PM   #4694
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White christians have been desperate for a martyr to latch onto.

It's funny because Christianity has no shortage of martyrs to latch on to. But they'd actually have to be Christian to know about them. Likely don't teach that at the Mega Church in-between rock concerts and laser light shows.
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Old 09-22-2025, 03:08 PM   #4695
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Great news. Hope this strengthens the backbone of networks.
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Old 09-22-2025, 03:13 PM   #4696
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We had cancelled our Disney+ etc but will reactivate now.

Im assuming disney realized die hard maga already hates them and their audience is mostly moderate and liberal.
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Old 09-22-2025, 03:29 PM   #4697
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Selfishly, I'm a little excited. We have a family trip to Disney World next week and if the right decides to boycott ABC/ESPN/Disney for the Kimmel thing, lines should be super short!

Just like they boycotted the NFL. They are all talk.
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Old 09-22-2025, 03:31 PM   #4698
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That was a paywall. What did it say?
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Old 09-22-2025, 03:40 PM   #4699
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That was a paywall. What did it say?

Argentina economy is collapsing because they elected a Libertarian guy who got his economic policies off Reddit and American taxpayers are going to bail them out.

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Argentina economy is collapsing because they elected a Libertarian guy who got his economic policies off Reddit and American taxpayers are going to bail them out.

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