The Trump Presidency 2.0

[Mota]

Originally Posted by Danny

In fairness, the democrats were sure happy to keep pretending Biden wasn't in a severe cognitive decline and keep their jobs also.

But it wasn't okay when it was Biden, and suddenly it's okay now.

[Lathum]

Dick Cheney, influential Republican vice president to George W. Bush, dies | CNN Politics

[Ghost Econ]

I guess Saddam has a new friend to talk to.

[RainMaker]

Who will the Dems use as their big endorsement in 2028 now?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Who will the Dems use as their big endorsement in 2028 now?

Emmanuel Goldstein.

[Atocep]

How do you tariff people? Asking for a friend.

[SirFozzie]

Here's one weird trick.. judges hate it.

(A judge has ordered discovery in a selective prosecution case. The government has basically said "No, we're not going to do that")

@joshgerstein.bsky.social on Bluesky

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Here's one weird trick.. judges hate it.

(A judge has ordered discovery in a selective prosecution case. The government has basically said "No, we're not going to do that")

@joshgerstein.bsky.social on Bluesky

The case seems comically weak so maybe they are hoping it gets dismissed and they can blame the judge.

[Atocep]

https://www.the-independent.com/news...-b2858656.html

Kentucky Secretary of State Michael Adams, a member of the Republican Party, took to social media after fielding complaints from constituents.

“We’re getting calls about polls being closed,” he wrote on X on Tuesday. “They are closed because we do not have elections today. Kentucky votes next year.”

“You cannot vote today in Kentucky for the mayor of New York City or the Governor of Virginia,” he added. “Sorry.”

[Atocep]

Virginia governor already called for Spanberger.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

I guess Saddam has a new friend to talk to.

Can't wait to piss on his grave (not Saddam's, mostly because I'm not going to Iraq).

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Virginia governor already called for Spanberger.

I haven't been paying attention. Was this expected?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

I haven't been paying attention. Was this expected?

She was expected to win, but how much will be one to watch. She was leading polls by 7-8% going in so it's a bit of a surprise to be able to call it that soon. She's currently up 13% with 25% reporting.

New Jersey is the one that was projected to be tight with dem Mickie Sherrill up by 2-3% in recent polls. Polls close there at 8pm EST.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Virginia governor already called for Spanberger.

by who?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Lathum

by who?

Decision Desk HQ

[Lathum]

dola- MSNBC just called it

[Lathum]

Early signs for Mikie are fabulous. Outpacing Harris everywhere and Jack underperforming Trump everywhere

[JPhillips]

DDHQ is already calling it for Sherrill.

[GrantDawg]

Both Public Commission Seats on Georgia flipped Blue. Mostly because of the complete rate highjaking the past few years by Georgia Power greenlit by the all GOP Council. They still have a majority, but the overwhelming wins are definitely a shot across the bow..

[GrantDawg]

New Jersey was just called for Mikie.

[Lathum]

[GrantDawg]

"Exit polls say Abigail Spanberger won young men 56–42 today. Talk about a narrative buster."

[Danny]

Good signs. I cant imagine this administrations popularity will be higher next year for the mind terms and likely will be even lower.

[GrantDawg]

Mamdami win already called, and he is going win very big in the highest turnout election in New York since 1969.

[Thomkal]

Virginia House flips from 51-49 R to 63-39 D

[JPhillips]

Weird living through all of this party realignment. Dems are going to have to get used to being the party with high-propensity voters now. All of those educated suburbanites turn out in off-year elections.

[Lathum]

Scott Jennings just said on CNN Mamdami is now the leader of the democratic party.

[Lathum]

Mikie was supposed to win by 2-3 points and shes gonna wipe the floor with him.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Mamdami win already called, and he is going win very big in the highest turnout election in New York since 1969.

I think this is pretty cool. I’m excited to see what happens.

[kingfc22]

Let’s run it back in 12 months! Fuck these MAGA clowns

[Kodos]

Nice to see some momentum on our side.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

"Exit polls say Abigail Spanberger won young men 56–42 today. Talk about a narrative buster."

Zohran won them by 40% which is insane.

[Ghost Econ]

Can't wait to see how the Dems in the Senate use this moment to give in within 2 days.

[Ksyrup]

All of this is great news, but I expect it's only going to embolden (or panic) Trump into doubling down on his authoritarianism, and especially doing whatever he can to fuck with next year's elections. It will be interesting to see how many at-risk Republican legislators decide to put their own interests over Trump's. Self-preservation is a powerful motive to speak up, or maybe start actually governing again!

[JPhillips]

The outrage of conservatives regarding the AG in Virginia is funny. They are learning that nobody cares what he said online applies to everybody now, not just Trump.

[Ksyrup]

Of course Trump is going to argue Republicans lost because he wasn't on the ballot, but these numbers kinda tell a different story:

So yesterday showed us what a wave election looks like. And what was the best predictor of the vote, and the probable source of the wave? Donald Trump. Take a look at the correlation of his approval rating in the exit polls in these states and the actual vote. In Virginia, Trump’s approval rating was 41%; his disapproval was 56%. The GOP candidate lost by 42–57%. In New Jersey, Trump’s approval/disapproval was at 43–55%; the GOP candidate was defeated by 43–56%. In California, Trump’s approval/disapproval was 34–63%; the anti-Republican referendum was winning 64% to 36%.

I suppose the argument will be around turnout - and who didn't turn out - but Trump is done, so what's teh GOP going to do when DJT can't be on the ballot anymore?

[JPhillips]

I do think a lot of campaigning doesn't matter. If the in power party is unpopular the opposition will do well. I don't think these results stay the same if Harris is the President.

Next year the GOP will get killed if Trump's approval is 40%. It won't matter what commercials are run in rural Illinois.

[Atocep]

Trump is using last night's disaster for the GOP to pressure senate to kill the filibuster so that they can "win" the shutdown.

[Atocep]

Always hard to tell with this SCOTUS but it looks like Trump tariffs are going to get shot down.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

All of this is great news, but I expect it's only going to embolden (or panic) Trump into doubling down on his authoritarianism, and especially doing whatever he can to fuck with next year's elections. It will be interesting to see how many at-risk Republican legislators decide to put their own interests over Trump's. Self-preservation is a powerful motive to speak up, or maybe start actually governing again!

This was my exact thought. They are going to spend the. Ext three years trying everything they can to keep him in power. Hope the military takes their oath seriously because Mike Pence isn’t walking through that door.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I do think a lot of campaigning doesn't matter. If the in power party is unpopular the opposition will do well. I don't think these results stay the same if Harris is the President.

Next year the GOP will get killed if Trump's approval is 40%. It won't matter what commercials are run in rural Illinois.

Republican policy, as a whole, is just terribly unpopular. I don't think there's a single issue the GOP polls well on right now. Its just crazy that dems fuck things up so bad and force everyone to be reminded that the GOP is awful.

[Lathum]

Isn’t Trump claiming him not being on the ballot the reason they lost just further enforce that it’s a cult?

[CrimsonFox]

I guess as not as optimistic as others about the results. I mean those results were expected kinda. I guess it's not enough to really impact a lot. The cycle seems to always continue. DUring the major years, GOP latches onto one or two stupid pointless talking points and stupid people everywhere just buy it.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I guess as not as optimistic as others about the results. I mean those results were expected kinda. I guess it's not enough to really impact a lot. The cycle seems to always continue. DUring the major years, GOP latches onto one or two stupid pointless talking points and stupid people everywhere just buy it.

As far as top of the ballot results go, it was expected. The margins were surprising and a few of the down ballot results were shocking. I don't think a dem had ever won a public works election in Georiga and they won 2. Those were the first 2 non federal election wins for dems in the state in 20 years. In Mississipi the state senate super majority was brokenfor the first time in 13 years. Dems won all 30 northern Virginia stage house seats and flipped a 2 seat minority to a 20+ seat majority.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Lathum

This was my exact thought. They are going to spend the. Ext three years trying everything they can to keep him in power. Hope the military takes their oath seriously because Mike Pence isn’t walking through that door.

This is likely true but I dont think it will lead to more people wanting to vote republican. The only thing that i think saves the mid terms for them if the economy actually gets better, prices go down, insurance rates dont increase, etc... but thats not going to happen

[Arles]

Originally Posted by Atocep

As far as top of the ballot results go, it was expected. The margins were surprising and a few of the down ballot results were shocking. I don't think a dem had ever won a public works election in Georiga and they won 2. Those were the first 2 non federal election wins for dems in the state in 20 years. In Mississipi the state senate super majority was brokenfor the first time in 13 years. Dems won all 30 northern Virginia stage house seats and flipped a 2 seat minority to a 20+ seat majority.

I don't think there was much republican turnout. Their "call to action" usually involves Trump or against some awful person Trump gets riled up nationally about. There just wasn't that narrative for this election. On the other side, I think democrats (myself included) were foaming at the mouth to go out and vote for anything that could hurt Trump and national republicans (even if it was just minor).

[Fidatelo]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I suppose the argument will be around turnout - and who didn't turn out - but Trump is done, so what's teh GOP going to do when DJT can't be on the ballot anymore?

Not have ballots.

[Ksyrup]

The Hispanic voter flip-flop is pretty drastic.

This is from the Bulwark:

The single most important data point last night was the Hispanic vote. Union City, New Jersey, was my bellwether here because it’s a heavily Hispanic town (81.6 percent Hispanic) that swung toward Trump for two consecutive elections:

Trump vote share, 2016: 19 percent
Trump vote share, 2020: 28 percent
Trump vote share, 2024: 41 percent

How did Republican Jack Ciattarelli do in Union City? Holy shit:

15.1 percent.

I can't imagine Trump on the ballot would have done much to increase those numbers.

[bhlloy]

I seem to remember that it was expected the Supreme Court would be a bit hostile to the Trump admin on the tariff topic specifically, and I had somebody very well connected when it comes to the national Dem party tell me this would be the issue that they sacrifice to show they aren’t totally in his pocket, but the timing of them giving the admin what appears to be a beating has to be a little interesting given yesterdays results?

Possibly a little bit of discomfort in Republican circles about the way things are trending for them? I’m sure it won’t last.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I suppose the argument will be around turnout - and who didn't turn out - but Trump is done, so what's teh GOP going to do when DJT can't be on the ballot anymore?

This will be a true test of if the republican candidate can scare their voters into coming out in droves against the democrat. My hope is they can't, but I think that's the only path to high turnout without Trump.