The Trump Presidency 2.0

[Lathum]

dola- MAGA is having a normal one over this news on social media

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Prices also won't come down so they'll be a profit boost until tariffs are replaced.

100%

Prices don't come down. You just creat a new normal and higher profits.

[Mota]

Well my company was importing various parts of a big Collector's Edition that's releasing this year. We were taking a major hit to import this into the USA, so we moved around a lot of the allocation to other countries to reduce the impact. Now we'll just end up making the amount of money that we were originally planning on making. IF they refund the tariffs.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Atocep

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Prices don't come down. You just creat a new normal and higher profits.

Wife did 27 years in sales for Proctor and Gamble and Berkshire going as high as VP of North America and this was her exact comment when I told her about the ruling.

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Yeah, but he has to refund 173 billion and that's quite a jolt to businesses.

So glad these businesses that passed the tariffs onto us get to get the refund while we continue to hold the bill...

[Lathum]

So apparently Lutnicks company, run by his sons, has been buying up tariff rebates for pennies on the dollar and is going to make a bag load over this ruling. So basically he was betting against his own administrations policy. The corruption never ends.

[Lathum]

I can't stand the sound of Trumps voice but I may listen to this presser just to see how off the rails he goes.

[Lathum]

So does this mean we aren't getting out tariff rebate checks?

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

These people should have their children taken away. Of course don't blame God, blame yourselves for being fucking morons.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...rrJNov1tHHQI3A

To follow up on this, they family has a GoFundMe and has raised $18k so far. For willing letting their son die of measles.

[Lathum]

Took him 2 minutes to bring up election fraud.

[Lathum]

He’s now taking about how he can put embargo’s on countries. Sounds like he’s going to get his revenge by burning it all down.

[Atocep]

GDP way down and inflation up. In a surprise twist, though, he didn't blame Biden. He's blaming the shutdown.

[RainMaker]

Still insane they found 3 sniveling cocksuckers on SCOTUS to defend it. I have to read the dissent to see the kind of mental gymnastics they use since it's as clear as day in the Constitution.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Atocep

100%

Prices don't come down. You just creat a new normal and higher profits.

Same as post covid. Price gouging on food from grocery stores to all of the food/beverage suppliers is a disgrace, and not because of tariffs. The model is a proven winner, just as well implement it post tariffs.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

A lot of it was purchased by Howard Lutnick's family, so like lost everything else it was just a way to make people in the administration rich.

I don't think people realize how evil Lutnick is. Beyond all the 9/11 stuff and his "luck" that day, he runs a ponzi scheme (Tether) and was close friends and business associates with Epstein. One of the worst human beings on the planet.

[Atocep]

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few cabinet members resign as we get closer to the midterms. Lutnick and Noem are probably the most likely. Hegseth is too stupid to know when to quit.

[RainMaker]

Lutnick isn't going anywhere. They both need each other.

Noem on the other hand is disposable and probably gets tossed before midterms. She's just an anchor on Trump.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a few cabinet members resign as we get closer to the midterms. Lutnick and Noem are probably the most likely. Hegseth is too stupid to know when to quit.

I saw some stories today that Noem was going to leave and run for Senate in South Dakota

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Still insane they found 3 sniveling cocksuckers on SCOTUS to defend it. I have to read the dissent to see the kind of mental gymnastics they use since it's as clear as day in the Constitution.

We knew Thomas & Alito would support it because to them no GOP President can do any wrong.

And you never know with Kavanaugh, given the drinking.

I wonder if any of those 3 are in the Epstein files.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I saw some stories today that Noem was going to leave and run for Senate in South Dakota

Thune isn't up for re-election until 2028 and he's majority leader.

Rounds is up for re-election this year. In 2020 he beat his primary opponent 75-25 and his GE opponent 65-35. The primary isn't until June 2, but that seems like some uphill sledding. Rounds has also been endorsed by Trump (as much as that matters).

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

We knew Thomas & Alito would support it because to them no GOP President can do any wrong.

And you never know with Kavanaugh, given the drinking.

I wonder if any of those 3 are in the Epstein files.

It is just so funny that Thomas and Alito prided themselves as strict originalists and all the dopey media personalities played along for years.

Reading through the dissent, they don't even argue the constitutionality. They just say "well it would be hard to reverse this so I guess it should be legal". I was wondering how they'd word it because you know they do not want a Dem to have that same power.

Gorsuch does absolutely cook the shit out of Thomas in his concurrence. Points out how insane he is and that he's calling for what is essentially an Enabling Act.

[dubb93]

So because his ability to order tariffs was struck down his solution is a new tariff? I mean this gets tossed as soon as it’s in front of a judge, right?

[Mota]

Remember when the tariffs were supposed to be about fentanyl? That seems so long ago. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is ever close to the truth.

I guess the $2,000 tariff cheques aren't coming anytime soon. (they never were)

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by dubb93

So because his ability to order tariffs was struck down his solution is a new tariff? I mean this gets tossed as soon as it’s in front of a judge, right?

The global one he can do, but after 150 days, he needs Congress to approve it. I don't think that even this lapdog Congress wants to play with unpopular tariffs in July of an election year.

[Lathum]

My concern is Johnson pulling some shenanigans like not holding a vote on them and they just continue. Zero chance that vote passes that close to midterms.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Lathum

My concern is Johnson pulling some shenanigans like not holding a vote on them and they just continue. Zero chance that vote passes that close to midterms.

He will not. They will hope the court delays ruling for another year.

[JPhillips]

WTF is going on?

People magazine finds and breaks the claim that Epstein was the wealth manager for Putin.

[Thomkal]

https://people.com/jeffrey-epstein-w...aimed-11897555


People Magazine would be one of the last places I would look for "real" news.

[Thomkal]

I went looking at Bluesky for more info on this and I'm seeing that this is a false story, which I guess is why People fell for it and ran it

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Lathum

My concern is Johnson pulling some shenanigans like not holding a vote on them and they just continue. Zero chance that vote passes that close to midterms.

My guess on what happens is we get lawsuits, they allow the tariffs to stay in place for the 150 days even though this is clearly not the intent of the law, he immediately reapplies them after the 150 day limit, which results in more lawsuits and an injunction this time. Trump files an emergency appeal with SCOTUS who refuses to hear the case and the injunction stands. This runs the clock out until dems at least take over the house.

The GOP would be far better off if Trump just accepted defeat on this. There aren't many things he's underwater on with republicans, but tariffs are probably one. Trump is ensuring they're going to be in the spotlight through the midterms. This is him not liking being told no and not giving a fuck about the party when he has a chance to enrich himself and his friends.

After this tariff ruling I wouldn't be surprised if SCOTUS shies away from ruling on Trump nonsense for awhile. Not being able to get a 9-0 ruling on something blatantly illegal was a bad look for Roberts' court and got Gorsuch to lash out. That's probably why this ruling was delayed a month.

[JPhillips]

Hard to figure out what's happening with Greenland today. Trump posted that we're sending a hospital ship for Greenland's civilians, but it's being reported that the Danes medi-vacced a US sailor who was ill.

Is Trump lying or is he nuts?

[Ksyrup]

Both. That's the answer to almost everything involving Trump.

[GrantDawg]

Both Navy hospital ships are in dry dock in Mobile for repairs and won't be going anywhere for months. Just a bizarre stupid lie.

[bronconick]

Yes

[JPhillips]

Trump admin saying Iran is within a week of developing a nuclear weapon. You know, the same nuclear program that was "totally obliterated" eight months ago.

[NobodyHere]

I remember when Iran was within one year of developing a nuclear weapon.

That was 15 years ago.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I remember when Iran was within one year of developing a nuclear weapon.

That was 15 years ago.

They were saying this in the 90s. There's a famous clip of Netanyahu in like 2002 saying Iran was close.

The best thing for the safety of the region would be for Iran to acquire nuclear weapons.

[Mota]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I remember when Iran was within one year of developing a nuclear weapon.

That was 15 years ago.

Pretty sure it's the "weapons of mass destruction" excuse or the Casus Belli that you'd need to declare a war.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I went looking at Bluesky for more info on this and I'm seeing that this is a false story, which I guess is why People fell for it and ran it

The story is not false. There is a Confidential Human Source (CHS) Reporting Document in the files where a CHS makes that claim. If you type "Epstein's wealth manager" in the search bar of the library, there is a link to the document.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

Now whether the CHS's claim was investigated and confirmed or not, YMMV.

[RainMaker]

Mandelson arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office | Politics News | Sky News

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Mandelson arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office | Politics News | Sky News

I'm sure our FBI director will be on this shit once he's done partying with the men's hockey team in Italy.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I'm sure our FBI director will be on this shit once he's done partying with the men's hockey team in Italy.

When he's done, there was a pretty big high profile kidnapping he can probably help with too. No rush though, I'm sure the 85 year old woman is fine.

[RainMaker]

Has the DOW fallen enough where we can arrest pedophiles?

[Ksyrup]

I'm torn between losing several months' worth of 401K principle/interest versus Trump continuing to shoot himself in the dick to further hamstring GOP chances in November.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm torn between losing several months' worth of 401K principle/interest versus Trump continuing to shoot himself in the dick to further hamstring GOP chances in November.

Personally since we are are 41/42 and 20 years away from retirement I'm in favor of Trump shooting himself in the foot.

The funny thing is a less stubborn Trump could have had a fairly solid economy right now and much better approval ratings.

[Ksyrup]

It's pretty consistent though. He'd rather double/triple down on what he believes - even when there's hard evidence to prove otherwise - rather than admit he's wrong. Hopefully he'll burn down the GOP while clinging to his "tariffs are free money" BS.

[GrantDawg]

Bitcoin still dropping. The dollar still dropping. Are we tired of winning yet?

[Ksyrup]

I'm kinda OK with it though because even in my mid-50s, I've got another decade-plus to work. I'll be done with college/housing costs for our second (last) kid by June, first daughter married in November, maybe another wedding in a couple of years... I expect to have more money to sock away in 3-4 years, plus paying off the house. Should be able to more than make up for any short-term downturn now.

[RainMaker]

Another American was executed overseas.

Family of Palestinian-American man killed in West Bank call for accountability

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Bitcoin still dropping. The dollar still dropping. Are we tired of winning yet?

I guess the Trump kids have been deleting their crypto posts now that the rug pull is complete.