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Old 03-09-2026, 05:06 PM   #51
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So no chance of winning the FIFA Peace Prize this year?

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Old 03-09-2026, 05:07 PM   #52
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Trump says we could have captured the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka but it's more fun to sink it.

Are we the baddies?
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Old 03-09-2026, 05:25 PM   #53
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Trump says we could have captured the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka but it's more fun to sink it.

Are we the baddies?

That is totally psychotic, evil, and incredibly stupid.

Capturing it could have given us intel and info about their tech.
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Old 03-09-2026, 05:42 PM   #54
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Trump says we could have captured the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka but it's more fun to sink it.

Are we the baddies?

Have been since WW2.
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Old 03-09-2026, 05:45 PM   #55
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How many times will oil skyrocket, Trump say the war is over, oil crashes, then say the war will continue, starting the whole cycle again?

Each time, insiders make a fortune on the spikes/crashes.
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Old 03-09-2026, 06:16 PM   #56
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Trump in a nutshell.

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TRUMP: Because I just don't know enough about it. It's something I was told is under investigation.
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Old 03-09-2026, 08:07 PM   #57
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When you are definitely winning.
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Old 03-10-2026, 08:26 AM   #58
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Bomb a school, install a worse leader, leave. Mission accomplished.

Weaksauce. When Bush declared Mission Accomplished he had done the above and acquired oil rights for his Texas buddies.
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Old 03-10-2026, 11:40 AM   #59
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Gotta move our defense systems out of Asia to protect Israel. Wait till we start sending ones we have here at home.

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southko...le-east-report
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Old 03-10-2026, 01:45 PM   #60
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The death totals haven't changed, but here is the casualty numbers according to sources and somewhat confirmed by the White House. There have been 140 injured so far in action. Of that 140, 108 have returned to duty and 8 are considered critical.
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Old 03-10-2026, 02:45 PM   #61
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Weaksauce. When Bush declared Mission Accomplished he had done the above and acquired oil rights for his Texas buddies.

Are you saying this war isn't "Very Complete"?
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Old 03-10-2026, 03:57 PM   #62
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Who made money when the Energy Sec. lied and said tankers were being escorted?

Who made money when he deleted the tweet and oil shot back up?
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Old 03-10-2026, 04:36 PM   #63
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The geniuses running things apparently sent the minesweepers back to the US at the end of January.
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Old 03-10-2026, 04:45 PM   #64
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The geniuses running things apparently sent the minesweepers back to the US at the end of January.

Months ago we were also offered help by Ukraine on how to prepare for drone warfare, offered drone interceptors, and experts to help protect outposts and installations in the event of a war with Iran and the Trump administration blew them off and mocked them behind closed doors. We had to go back and ask for that help because we've struggled to counter Iranian Shaded drones.
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Old 03-10-2026, 05:35 PM   #65
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The geniuses running things apparently sent the minesweepers back to the US at the end of January.

If they actually mine the strait, we are all fucked.
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Old 03-10-2026, 05:59 PM   #66
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The geniuses running things apparently sent the minesweepers back to the US at the end of January.

There are other ships that do that mission better than the forty year old wooden hull boats they retired. It is not like they don't have other vessels and drones that do mine hunting in the area.

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Old 03-10-2026, 06:41 PM   #67
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Who made money when the Energy Sec. lied and said tankers were being escorted?

Who made money when he deleted the tweet and oil shot back up?

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Old 03-10-2026, 06:43 PM   #68
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By 2:10 PM ET today, the S&P 500, $SPY, $675 strike calls had fallen to a low of $0.02 per contract, effectively worthless.

Then, at 3:20 PM ET, President Trump said the Iran war is "very complete," sending the S&P 500 soaring.

By 3:30 PM ET, 10 minutes later, these same calls were trading at $4.95 per contract, up +24,650%.

In other words, $1,000 invested in these calls at 2:10 PM ET was worth $247,500 just 80 minutes later.

Have to assume now that all of this is purposeful and criminal.
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Old 03-10-2026, 08:00 PM   #69
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Admin says first two days cost 5.6 billion.

But there's no money for healthcare.
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Old 03-11-2026, 06:19 AM   #70
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It seems the US had no real plan on how to handle the Strait of Hormuz. They believed any disruption would be temporary, and that after decapitating the Iranian government, the war would move swiftly to an end. Of course that means they ignored every actual expert on the area. This is starting to crash out bad.
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Old 03-11-2026, 06:22 AM   #71
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Admin says first two days cost 5.6 billion.

But there's no money for healthcare.

We spent $2,000,000,000,000 on Medicare and Medicaid in 2024.
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Old 03-11-2026, 07:52 AM   #72
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Old 03-11-2026, 07:56 AM   #73
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Admin says first two days cost 5.6 billion.

But there's no money for healthcare.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2935978.html

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Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth’s Pentagon apparently isn’t feeling the same affordability struggles as many average Americans, as he approved spending more than $93 billion in September, including on luxury food items and iPads.

A new analysis published by government watchdog Open the Books found that in September — the end of the 2025 fiscal year — Hegseth reportedly burned through cash, including spending $9 million on crab and lobster dinners.

Also 15.1M on ribeyes, a $100,000 piano for the home of the Air Force Chief of Staff, 5.3M on Apple devices, etc....

Guess we should have had DOGE stick around, eh?
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Old 03-11-2026, 08:06 AM   #74
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Old 03-11-2026, 10:15 AM   #75
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So no chance of winning the FIFA Peace Prize this year?

Why would he want that? He will get the first ever Board of Peace Peace Prize.
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Old 03-11-2026, 02:08 PM   #76
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Want to know why El Paso airport was shut down for the military drone laser test? I'm starting to see a thread...
https://abcnews.com/US/fbi-warns-ira...y?id=130973820
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Old 03-11-2026, 02:12 PM   #77
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Why would they attack California? They hate Trump as much as Iran does.
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Old 03-11-2026, 02:22 PM   #78
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Old 03-11-2026, 02:23 PM   #79
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If Iran attacked California trump legit wouldn’t care.
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Old 03-11-2026, 06:04 PM   #80
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Two oil tankers are burning off the coast of Iraq. Iran claims they were hit by Iranian boats filled with explosives.
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Old 03-11-2026, 07:11 PM   #81
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If Iran attacked California trump legit wouldn’t care.

People die in wars.
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Old 03-11-2026, 07:58 PM   #82
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Trump is prepping his base to turn on Hegseth, Rubio, Witkoff, and Kushner for the war if really turns really bad. He said today that he decided to attack based on what they were telling him.
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Old 03-11-2026, 08:01 PM   #83
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Two oil tankers are burning off the coast of Iraq. Iran claims they were hit by Iranian boats filled with explosives.

No. Trump said the Straits are in great shape.
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Old 03-11-2026, 08:26 PM   #84
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Trump is prepping his base to turn on Hegseth, Rubio, Witkoff, and Kushner for the war if really turns really bad. He said today that he decided to attack based on what they were telling him.

I will truly never understand how 10 years in to this experiment how people don't understand he will eventually throw you under the bus and ruin you.
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Trump is prepping his base to turn on Hegseth, Rubio, Witkoff, and Kushner for the war if really turns really bad. He said today that he decided to attack based on what they were telling him.

I will truly never understand how 10 years in to this experiment how people don't understand he will eventually throw you under the bus and ruin you.
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Old 03-11-2026, 08:32 PM   #86
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No. Trump said the Straits are in great shape.

Worse. This is actually 300 miles from the Straight.
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Old 03-11-2026, 09:11 PM   #87
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So if you believe Trump you have to believe that we know where all the Iranian sleeper agents are but we're just choosing not to do anything about them.
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Trump is prepping his base to turn on Hegseth, Rubio, Witkoff, and Kushner for the war if really turns really bad. He said today that he decided to attack based on what they were telling him.

I'm not a Trump fan, but isn't he probably right?

He's got dementia, and his advisors are controlling the information he sees and does not see.
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Old 03-12-2026, 07:58 AM   #89
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The billionaire ‘buccaneer’ braving the Strait of Hormuz

Don't worry guys, as long as we have billionaires brave enough to risk the lives of their own employees for profit we'll be fine.
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Old 03-12-2026, 12:29 PM   #90
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Not be outdone by mysterious deaths, we now have an aircraft carrier allegedly setting itself on fire.
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Old 03-12-2026, 12:41 PM   #91
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I'm not a Trump fan, but isn't he probably right?

He's got dementia, and his advisors are controlling the information he sees and does not see.

He is right, but a doing an interview and naming names of those that talked him into going to war is strange, although not within the top 1,000 strange things just from this 2nd administration l. The only reason he did that was so he can deflect blame in the future.
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Old 03-12-2026, 04:51 PM   #92
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Looks like a refill tanker went down over Iraq as well as another plane. Probable collision.

Edit: Only the tanker went down. The other plane landed safely.

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Old 03-12-2026, 05:14 PM   #93
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Even more info, the other plane was a tanker. Wasn't expecting that. Two tankers bumping each other is crazy.
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Old 03-12-2026, 06:34 PM   #94
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The rumors are it was a 358 that hit it (maybe a 359 since tankers fly pretty high). They're all over Iraq. Tankers don't have flares from what I remember. They are always sitting ducks and it was a matter of time. Current leadership just never planned this shit out.

Just remember that we have a long history of denying how our planes get shot down dating back to Vietnam. Two tankers colliding would be even less likely than the "Ghost of Kuwait" wiping out 3 F-15Es.
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Current leadership just never planned this shit out.

These guys are starting to make Donald "You go to war with the army you have" Rumsfeld look like a paragon of forward planning.
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Old 03-12-2026, 06:55 PM   #96
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Old 03-12-2026, 07:19 PM   #97
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So there is no way to accomplish our goals here without boots on the ground, right? Bombing them into the smithereens didn't seem to accomplish anything besides getting the world's oil and natural gas supply halted and somehow getting an even worse leader in charge. This is turning into a disaster.
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Old 03-12-2026, 07:40 PM   #98
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The rumors are it was a 358 that hit it (maybe a 359 since tankers fly pretty high). They're all over Iraq. Tankers don't have flares from what I remember. They are always sitting ducks and it was a matter of time. Current leadership just never planned this shit out.

Just remember that we have a long history of denying how our planes get shot down dating back to Vietnam. Two tankers colliding would be even less likely than the "Ghost of Kuwait" wiping out 3 F-15Es.

It is actually not at all and very common. These planes do fuel swaps, and that what this looks to have been. One landed with the damage from the contact but the other couldn't. Reading stories of crews that fly these planes about the many near misses they have all had just like this. And there is literal video of the "Ghost of Kuwait."
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Worth noting that CBS initially reported them as being "hit" before deleting the story. Odd for a state media outlet to get out in front with an error like that.

And yeah, the Kuwait stuff could have went down that way. Good chance Hegseth thought IFF was too DEI or something.
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There are pictures of the plane that made it back. Ten feet or so of the tailfin was sheared off. The crew guys commenting in it talk about how tough these planes are.
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