2004 Salary Cap Status for NFL teams

[cthomer5000]

	Team 			Under	Over
1	Baltimore Ravens 	24.020	
2	Philadelphia Eagles 	22.800	
3	New Orleans Saints 	22.600	
4	Minnesota Vikings 	20.200	
5	Dallas Cowboys 		18.700	
6	St. Louis Rams 		17.600	
7	Arizona Cardinals 	17.100	
8	Detroit Lions 		14.600	
9	Carolina Panthers 	13.000	
10	Houston Texans 		12.100	
11	Seattle Seahawks 	11.600	
12	Jacksonville Jaguars 	10.400	
13	Chicago Bears 		9.000	
14	Cincinnati Bengals 	9.000	
15	Washington Redskins 	8.600	
16	Kansas City Chiefs 	8.300	8.300
17	Buffalo Bills 		7.500	
18	San Diego Chargers 	6.100	
19	Atlanta Falcons 	4.370	
20	New York Jets 		3.500	
21	Green Bay Packers 	3.400	
22	New York Giants 	2.700	
23	Indianapolis Colts 	1.800	
24	Oakland Raiders 	1.360	
25	Cleveland Browns 	1.300	
26	San Francisco 49ers 	0.793	
27	New England Patriots 		0.399
28	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 		1.400
29	Denver Broncos 			2.300
30	Pittsburgh Steelers 		2.670
31	Miami Dolphins 			9.480
32	Tennessee Titans 		16.400
			
	cap = 78.1 million		

The Chiefs weren't specified as either "over" or "under"... so I have no clue as to which way that 8.3 million goes.

I expect we'll see Philly deep in the playoffs again next year.

And, it's surprising how quickly the Ravens went from "cap hell" to swimming in free cash.

[JeeberD]

Good to see the Cowboys way up there. Hopefully we'll be able to plug some of our major holes (i.e. RUNNING BACK)...

[Ragone]

I can pretty much guarentee you the chiefs are under.. as their is no talk of dumping players.. and they wanna resign all their ufa's apparently.. so i doubt that would be the case if they were over

[Logan]

Its amazing that with all the guys the Niners have as UFA, they still have so much money tied up.

[Passacaglia]

Right. The untold story here is how many players each team has on contract for next year. And, of course, which ones.

[Suicane75]

It's just as amazing that the Eagles are on their way to their 3rd straight NFC Championship and they have the 2nd most cap room available next year. Andy Reid has done a great job both on and off the field.

[Ryche]

Hmmm, Tennessee is 16 million over and Kearse is a free agent. Looks like he'll end up elsewhere unless they can get awfully creative.

[cincyreds]

I with you JeeberD. It is good to see the boys up there at the top.

We desparately need a QB, RB and a DE.

I would like to see us get a QB and RB first, cuz I think the defense is pretty good.

Quincy is a good guy and all, but he is just not the answer in order for us to win another super bowl.

[SteelerFan448]

I think the Ravens have a good number of FAs this year. Still they'll have a good amount of room though, maybe to add T.O. for a target for Boller. Money would probably be the only thing to get him to Baltimore though with a QB at the level of Boller.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

It's just as amazing that the Eagles are on their way to their 3rd straight NFC Championship and they have the 2nd most cap room available next year. Andy Reid has done a great job both on and off the field.

For the sake of argument: If the Eagles have that much unused cap space and have been so close to a super bowl for years (but never won one)... wouldn't that mean Reid's done a lousy job of managing the cap? I mean, what would have happened last year if he'd actually used all the resources he had available?

And yes, of course, that argument goes down the tubes if they win it all this year.

[MizzouRah]

Are you sure the Rams are right? They've been talking on the radio like we were in cap trouble next year.

Tennesse looks like my FOF Rams team.


Todd

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

For the sake of argument: If the Eagles have that much unused cap space and have been so close to a super bowl for years (but never won one)... wouldn't that mean Reid's done a lousy job of managing the cap? I mean, what would have happened last year if he'd actually used all the resources he had available?

And yes, of course, that argument goes down the tubes if they win it all this year.

He did use all the resources availabe. The number above is unused cap space that will be available next year.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

He did use all the resources availabe. The number above is unused cap space that will be available next year.

Yes, but the Eagles have been under the cap for years. They went into this season several million dollars under the cap, and were in the best cap position in the league as far back as two years ago.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Yes, but the Eagles have been under the cap for years. They went into this season several million dollars under the cap, and were in the best cap position in the league as far back as two years ago.

Point taken, but it wasn't like he was gonna get anyone that would have put them over the top for the amount of money that season without signing a longer term deal that would of hurt the cap for the future. That and Reid is very particular about the chemistry of the team and who he is willing to bring in and not bring in.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Point taken, but it wasn't like he was gonna get anyone that would have put them over the top for the amount of money that season without signing a longer term deal that would of hurt the cap for the future. That and Reid is very particular about the chemistry of the team and who he is willing to bring in and not bring in.

Which is fair enough, if it works. If they win the Super Bowl then he did good job, regardless of what route he took to get there.

But... if they don't win the Super Bowl again, and he leaves $8M of cap room on the table, then I'm not sure I see how you can say he's done a great job of managing the cap.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Which is fair enough, if it works. If they win the Super Bowl then he did good job, regardless of what route he took to get there.

But... if they don't win the Super Bowl again, and he leaves $8M of cap room on the table, then I'm not sure I see how you can say he's done a great job of managing the cap.

I sort of agree and I sort of disagree, obviously that's alot of money to not use, and it seems easy enough to say they would have been better if they had used it, but Reid has a weird way of doing things and getting things accomplished, he routinley mismanages games, mismanages timeouts, the play calling looks horrid, and then you look up and the team is 13-3. He has a course and he stays on it, I really don't think it would matter if they had $8 Million left or $20 Million left, if he had the team he wanted I don't think he would hesitiate not to use it. Plus, it's not really like you can say that the money they didn't use cost them the NFC Championship in either of the past 2 years.

[sabotai]

I'm curious to see which players on the Eagles are going to be free agents. They might have a lot of cap room because their top guys (other than McNabb) will be FA's (Dawkins, Vincent, Lewis, Runyan, etc.)

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by sabotai

I'm curious to see which players on the Eagles are going to be free agents. They might have a lot of cap room because their top guys (other than McNabb) will be FA's (Dawkins, Vincent, Lewis, Runyan, etc.)

I'm sorry, I just went to the eagles team site to check on the contract status on a bunch of guys and ended up in the Cheerleader section where most of the girls have Photo Galleries including them either topless or in skimpy lingerie, I'll be back with you tommorow.

[Butter]

Hey, the Steelers have no cap room AND they suck! That's gotta hurt....

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Right. The untold story here is how many players each team has on contract for next year. And, of course, which ones.

I was going to post something to that effect. Without knowing how many players are under contract, it is a nearly worthless number. Still, fans of each team generally know which "big names" are free agents... so it helps somewhat. The Jets have a lot of big names entering the final year of their deal, and still only have 3.5 in space...

[cthomer5000]

I would say INDY must be in pretty bad shape. Only 1.8 in cap space, and we know Peyton is not under conract for next year. I'm sure they're praying they pull off the SB win this year.

I think Philly has done an outstanding job handling the cap. They simply refuse to overpay. This is why this team will be in the playoffs for years to come.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Hey, the Steelers have no cap room AND they suck! That's gotta hurt....

That's interesting. They have historically always done well with the cap despite losing their FA's right and left.

[Subby]

The Ravens rebuild was/is just really impressive. They kept exactly the right guys and jettisoned the others. Ozzie Newsome is amazing.

The Eagles management strategy is impressive as well and one that I am going to try and duplicate in online leagues.

[HornedFrog Purple]

That reminds me subby, I forgot to write up The Frugal Defense. It is pretty much like the Eagles strategy based on position and it's the other half of how to get the biggest bang for your $$ in FOF.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Subby

The Ravens rebuild was/is just really impressive. They kept exactly the right guys and jettisoned the others. Ozzie Newsome is amazing.

The Eagles management strategy is impressive as well and one that I am going to try and duplicate in online leagues.

I agree about the Ravens. Very impressive rebuild.

I pretty much run my careers like the Eagles do. It's tough to let stars walk away sometimes, but when they're holding you hostage, sometimes you have to.

[Daimyo]

Colts have to resign Manning, but they also have a couple guys making huge money this year who mostly played backup roles this year that they're planning to cut. Cutting Braskze (just guessing but has to be between $8-12M) and Meadows ($8.735) alone will probably give them enough to pay Manning. They basically only kept them around this season because it would have been too pricey to cut them last season.

Colts are mostly in good position every season because they haven't splurged in a FA since Braztke in 1999 and the team is pretty much entirely built through great drafting and bargain basement FA's.

[Daimyo]

DOLA, and they're not afraid to let even well-liked, stud players walk away if they feel they're relatively easy to replace like Mike Petersen, Ken Dilger, the center Houston signed away etc.

[cthomer5000]

You have to think Eddie George is going to get cut in Tennessee. I'm sure his contract is huge, and frankly... he might not be their best back anymore. I could see them cutting him, then re-signing him for much cheaper unless he lands elsewhere. He strikes me as a guy who would want to stay there, even if it meant a severe salary cut.

[damnMikeBrown]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I'm sorry, I just went to the eagles team site to check on the contract status on a bunch of guys and ended up in the Cheerleader section where most of the girls have Photo Galleries including them either topless or in skimpy lingerie, I'll be back with you tommorow.

Now, for real topless or the teaser with the arm stretigically draped over the breast? HUGE difference.

[JAG]

Actually, I'm almost sure Lewis is signed and Dawkins has definitely been signed (they gave him a pretty huge deal I believe prior to the season). Their big FA's are Vincent, Taylor, Emmons, and Duce.

[Deattribution]

I believe the plan for Peyton Manning is they're going to franchise him next year, and figure it out from there.

The owner was quoted on Sportscenter as saying there was no way they were letting him go.

[judicial clerk]

No way the Colts will let Manning walk

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Deattribution

I believe the plan for Peyton Manning is they're going to franchise him next year, and figure it out from there.

That's an option, but keep in mind: in order to franchise him, they have to offer him more than his already huge cap total from this year. It's not like FOF where you can franchise your best players and get them cheap - putting the tag on Manning would cost the Colts a ton.

[Masked]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

That's an option, but keep in mind: in order to franchise him, they have to offer him more than his already huge cap total from this year. It's not like FOF where you can franchise your best players and get them cheap - putting the tag on Manning would cost the Colts a ton.

I believe it is 18M for an exclusice franchise player meaning no one else can negotiate with him, and 13-14M for a non-exclusive FP meaning they have the right to match any offer or they get 2 first round picks. I imagine choosing the second will cost them more in the long term, because many teams with a lot of cap room might try and sign him and structure a deal that would be hard for the Colts to match. On the other hand, even without knowing their contract situation, 18M in cap space is going to be very hard to come up withif they can't get him resigned prior to the start of free agency.

[JasonC23]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

You have to think Eddie George is going to get cut in Tennessee. I'm sure his contract is huge, and frankly... he might not be their best back anymore. I could see them cutting him, then re-signing him for much cheaper unless he lands elsewhere. He strikes me as a guy who would want to stay there, even if it meant a severe salary cut.

Might not be? I hate to say this, because I've been a big Eddie George fan for a long time, but he's nobody's best back. Ever since his incredible 2000, he's been, at best, average. And that's being extremely nice. He has no burst anymore and his YPC is horrendous. Watching the Titans in the playoffs this year, I couldn't get over how much better Chris Brown is than Eddie. They would be very smart to cut him (and then, as you said, resign him for cheap so the team and fans don't hate ownership).

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by damnMikeBrown

Now, for real topless or the teaser with the arm stretigically draped over the breast? HUGE difference.

Teaser of course, but they do have lingerie calander pictures and I find none of them overly attractive but cheerleaders and lingerie, and cheerleaders and.....I'll be back tommorow.