So, does this qualify as a AAA player?

Karim · 02-20-2004, 12:48 AM

I don't think I'll be trading up though because I have depth at RB including a two-time 1st teamer/offensive player of the year.

Draft Dodger · 02-20-2004, 12:50 AM

for someone who doesn't have the game...

why do kick and punt return bars seem reversed?

JeeberD · 02-20-2004, 12:51 AM

What a loser! He can't even return kicks...

SegRat · 02-20-2004, 12:51 AM

From everything we have learned, this guy looks to be a stud!!! Let us know how he turns out.

GoSeahawks · 02-20-2004, 01:00 AM

OMG....That guy is a stud. You should trade your team for him.

GoldenEagle · 02-20-2004, 01:00 AM

I think he belongs in the majors, not AAA.

Barkeep49 · 02-20-2004, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

for someone who doesn't have the game...

why do kick and punt return bars seem reversed?

Don't know if this is serious or not, but those bars are not reversed so much as he is at the high range for every category EXCEPT returning punts and kicks.

Draft Dodger · 02-20-2004, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Don't know if this is serious or not, but those bars are not reversed so much as he is at the high range for every category EXCEPT returning punts and kicks.

no, I'm serious. I'm assuming it's like FOF4 - the grey bars indicate current level, the blue indicates potential (they are green and red in 4). but that doesn't make sense for the kick/punt return.

sorry if I'm missing the obvious here...

ISiddiqui · 02-20-2004, 01:54 AM

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the grey bars indicate current level, the blue indicates potential (they are green and red in 4). but that doesn't make sense for the kick/punt return.

Why wouldn't it? The kick/punt return is ALL potential and no current level.

Masked · 02-20-2004, 01:56 AM

The blue bars represent the range that the potential could fall in and correspond to the green bars in previous versions. This graph provides no info about the red bars (i.e. current ability). The only clue is the percent developed which is 76%. This player will have mostly red bars after training camp with some potential (24%) to grow into.

Hope that is clear Draft Dodger.

Barkeep49 · 02-20-2004, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

no, I'm serious. I'm assuming it's like FOF4 - the grey bars indicate current level, the blue indicates potential (they are green and red in 4). but that doesn't make sense for the kick/punt return.

sorry if I'm missing the obvious here...

Why does this make no sense? Of the truly great running backs that I can think of only Gayle Sayers did returns. Weathers looks to be an absolute stud (indicated by the blue bars suggesting near maximum future potential in almost every category).

Draft Dodger · 02-20-2004, 01:59 AM

thanks masked - I think I see it now.

damnMikeBrown · 02-20-2004, 02:08 AM

Herschel Walker. Ok, he may not be an all-time great, but I really loved him as a player.

stevew · 02-20-2004, 02:29 AM

Barry Sanders was a helluva returner in college.

Ben E Lou · 02-20-2004, 05:34 AM

I'd say there's not much to dislike about that guy.

Ksyrup · 02-20-2004, 08:06 AM

He went to FSU - must be Greg Jones, had he not blown out his knee.

corbes · 02-20-2004, 08:10 AM

[hype] HE'S THE NEXT ZACH LANGEN! [/hype]

BigJohn&TheLions · 02-20-2004, 05:10 PM

Has anyone ever seen a guy like this in an imported draft? In my imported dafts the best RB I have ever seen is in the mid-70's for potential. NO QB was ever good enuf to be taken #1 and overall, the prospects suck year in and year out. In fact, most of the best players in the draft never did a thing in college...

Karim · 02-20-2004, 05:11 PM

Unbelievably, he dropped to the 6th pick overall and went to Miami.

I really disliked the fact that Kansas City passed over him at #3 when their number one need was running back with only a scrub signed at the position. They chose a RDE instead which is ok since they didn't have a starter at that position even though they did have a stud at LDE.

My main division rival had the #2 pick and I'm just glad they passed him over as well.

Franklinnoble · 02-20-2004, 06:03 PM

I would have traded up for him ... especially after seeing him drop that far.

Let us know how he looks after camp...

tucker342 · 02-20-2004, 09:38 PM

no kidding... what a good player though

Karim · 02-21-2004, 04:49 PM

I didn't want to trade up because I had a RB coming off of two consecutive Offensive Player of the Year awards who was still in his prime while making $4.2 million. Plus, I had a decent backup and third stringer.

Karim · 02-21-2004, 07:13 PM

Post Training Camp:

Ben E Lou · 02-21-2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim

Post Training Camp:

Well, SOMEBODY'S gonna say it, so it might as well be me.

Dat boy run so good....

The_herd · 02-21-2004, 07:16 PM

He's from North Dakota, so he's a loser.

Buccaneer · 02-21-2004, 07:48 PM

Karim, what did the draft analysis on this prospect say? [ducks]

Karim · 02-21-2004, 09:29 PM

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "draft analysis". His grade was 9.0 with an adjusted rating of 9.6. The next highest adjusted rating was a WR at 9.0 who also had maxed out ratings.

He didn't have a good debut - 11 carries for only 37 yards, including 2 fumbles and only 1 catch for 2 yards.

It will be interesting to keep tabs on him since he's AI controlled. It will be a while though as I scoreboard watch all my games.

The_herd · 02-21-2004, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karim

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "draft analysis". His grade was 9.0 with an adjusted rating of 9.6. The next highest adjusted rating was a WR at 9.0 who also had maxed out ratings.

He didn't have a good debut - 11 carries for only 37 yards, including 2 fumbles and only 1 catch for 2 yards.

It will be interesting to keep tabs on him since he's AI controlled. It will be a while though as I scoreboard watch all my games.

I think Bucc was joking about the fact that FOF doesn't have cool things that add to the immersion factor like draft analysis.

Buccaneer · 02-21-2004, 10:00 PM

I was reminded of this as I just got done reading this week's TSN and it had a section on the top potential sophomores. It presented some good numbers but it also has a statement for each player on his NFL-ability or draftability, just like what NFL scouts have on each potential draftee in real life. Raw numbers never tell the whole story because sometimes the sum is greater or less than each of the parts. But other than that, I was just joking as herd said.

QuikSand · 02-21-2004, 10:18 PM

Put 11 players like Willie Weathers on your team, and you'll have a winner.

Shkspr · 02-21-2004, 10:55 PM

Well, as long as you never allow the other team to punt or kick off.

stevew · 02-21-2004, 11:26 PM

Well.....Um....Is this the Great White Hope at Tailback? According to Census figures, theres at least a 92.4% chance of that if he's a native North Dakotan.

tucker342 · 02-22-2004, 01:51 AM

A white guy at running back??? Come on this game is supposed to be realistic

stevew · 02-22-2004, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tucker342

A white guy at running back??? Come on this game is supposed to be realistic

I suppose being from ND, there is about a 5% chance of him being a native american.

His Indian name could be "He who Runs Swiftly."

Ben E Lou · 02-22-2004, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tucker342

A white guy at running back??? Come on this game is supposed to be realistic

A white guy named Willie?????????? Naaah. This is one of the very small percentage of the bruthas in ND.

ISiddiqui · 02-22-2004, 04:30 AM

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A white guy named Willie?????????? Naaah.

Does this mean that Willie Nelson is really black?

Ben E Lou · 02-22-2004, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Does this mean that Willie Nelson is really black?

The exception that proves the rule.

02-20-2004, 12:51 AM	#4
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	From everything we have learned, this guy looks to be a stud!!! Let us know how he turns out. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

02-20-2004, 01:56 AM	#10
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	The blue bars represent the range that the potential could fall in and correspond to the green bars in previous versions. This graph provides no info about the red bars (i.e. current ability). The only clue is the percent developed which is 76%. This player will have mostly red bars after training camp with some potential (24%) to grow into. Hope that is clear Draft Dodger. Last edited by Masked : 02-20-2004 at 01:58 AM.

02-20-2004, 01:59 AM	#12
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	thanks masked - I think I see it now. __________________ Mile High Hockey

02-20-2004, 05:34 AM	#15
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	I'd say there's not much to dislike about that guy. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

02-20-2004, 08:06 AM	#16
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	He went to FSU - must be Greg Jones, had he not blown out his knee. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

02-20-2004, 12:50 AM	#2
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	for someone who doesn't have the game... why do kick and punt return bars seem reversed? __________________ Mile High Hockey

02-20-2004, 12:51 AM	#3
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	What a loser! He can't even return kicks... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

02-20-2004, 01:00 AM	#5
GoSeahawks High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olympia, Wa	OMG....That guy is a stud. You should trade your team for him.

02-20-2004, 01:00 AM	#6
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I think he belongs in the majors, not AAA.

02-20-2004, 02:08 AM	#13
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Herschel Walker. Ok, he may not be an all-time great, but I really loved him as a player.

02-20-2004, 02:29 AM	#14
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Barry Sanders was a helluva returner in college.

02-20-2004, 08:10 AM	#17
corbes College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	[hype] HE'S THE NEXT ZACH LANGEN! [/hype]

02-20-2004, 05:10 PM	#18
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	Has anyone ever seen a guy like this in an imported draft? In my imported dafts the best RB I have ever seen is in the mid-70's for potential. NO QB was ever good enuf to be taken #1 and overall, the prospects suck year in and year out. In fact, most of the best players in the draft never did a thing in college...

02-20-2004, 05:11 PM	#19
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Unbelievably, he dropped to the 6th pick overall and went to Miami. I really disliked the fact that Kansas City passed over him at #3 when their number one need was running back with only a scrub signed at the position. They chose a RDE instead which is ok since they didn't have a starter at that position even though they did have a stud at LDE. My main division rival had the #2 pick and I'm just glad they passed him over as well.

02-20-2004, 06:03 PM	#20
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I would have traded up for him ... especially after seeing him drop that far. Let us know how he looks after camp...

02-20-2004, 09:38 PM	#21
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	no kidding... what a good player though

02-21-2004, 04:49 PM	#22
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	I didn't want to trade up because I had a RB coming off of two consecutive Offensive Player of the Year awards who was still in his prime while making $4.2 million. Plus, I had a decent backup and third stringer.

02-21-2004, 07:13 PM	#23
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Post Training Camp:

02-21-2004, 07:16 PM	#25
The_herd College Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)	He's from North Dakota, so he's a loser. __________________ Oakland Raiders: HFL's 1970 AC West Champs

02-21-2004, 07:48 PM	#26
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Karim, what did the draft analysis on this prospect say? [ducks]

02-21-2004, 09:29 PM	#27
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	I'm not quite sure what you mean by "draft analysis". His grade was 9.0 with an adjusted rating of 9.6. The next highest adjusted rating was a WR at 9.0 who also had maxed out ratings. He didn't have a good debut - 11 carries for only 37 yards, including 2 fumbles and only 1 catch for 2 yards. It will be interesting to keep tabs on him since he's AI controlled. It will be a while though as I scoreboard watch all my games.

02-21-2004, 10:00 PM	#29
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I was reminded of this as I just got done reading this week's TSN and it had a section on the top potential sophomores. It presented some good numbers but it also has a statement for each player on his NFL-ability or draftability, just like what NFL scouts have on each potential draftee in real life. Raw numbers never tell the whole story because sometimes the sum is greater or less than each of the parts. But other than that, I was just joking as herd said.

02-21-2004, 10:18 PM	#30
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Put 11 players like Willie Weathers on your team, and you'll have a winner.

02-21-2004, 10:55 PM	#31
Shkspr College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX	Well, as long as you never allow the other team to punt or kick off.

02-21-2004, 11:26 PM	#32
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Well.....Um....Is this the Great White Hope at Tailback? According to Census figures, theres at least a 92.4% chance of that if he's a native North Dakotan.

02-22-2004, 01:51 AM	#33
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	A white guy at running back??? Come on this game is supposed to be realistic

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