FBCB - Loyola Marymount

MikeVick7 · 03-22-2004, 02:15 PM

Well thanks to the writings of Skydog and several others I made the FBCB purchase this weekend. Thanks a lot...now I'll be hooked onto another sim game for a couple of months....haha.

Anyway...I was wondering if anyond had tried to recreate the style of play that Loyola Marymount made famous back in the late 80's? You know with Hank Gathers and Bo Kimble? Like ...maxing out the use of 3pter's...pace press and decreasing the use of motion...etc. And has this worked? I am kinda intrigued by it but right now I've got a career going with Minnesota just so I can recruit locally where I grew up...SD...ND and MN. But I would be willing to try something out like this if no one has tried it yet. Great game so far!

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Peregrine · 03-22-2004, 02:18 PM

You can definitely do it, but you need the right players. High stamina is a must for as many players as possible, as well as of course three point shooting, and some guys with good stealing ability to keep up the press. I've had teams that scored over 100 points in a lot of games in a season before. If you don't have high endurance guys though they get tired, commit fouls, etc. It's definitely fun to experiment with.

Neuqua · 03-22-2004, 02:22 PM

I actually run a slightly watered down version with my Leathernecks. As Peregrine said before, it's vital to have good stamina across the board and you want to make sure all of your guys are capable of stealing or blocking shots, the more turnovers the better.

Since I started off with a prestige of 12, I wasn't able to garner the high stats that you are probably looking for, but I still averaged around 85ppg per contest which if you saw the kind of talent I had, was actually quite the feat.

Neuqua · 03-22-2004, 02:25 PM

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 Western Illinois Leathernecks Historical Team Averages

Season   PPG  RPG  APG  SPG  BPG  TPG    FGA   FG%   FTA   FT%   3PA   3P%
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2027    88.1 40.6 17.0  9.5  4.6 12.0   63.4  .449  25.3  .657  13.4  .341
2026    89.9 42.9 17.3  7.1  3.8 14.8   64.5  .436  25.0  .707  17.8  .334
2025    82.7 39.6 17.3  8.3  3.0 11.6   64.7  .446  23.6  .716  20.9  .389
2024    86.1 37.7 14.2  6.3  2.7 15.2   58.0  .435  27.3  .689  19.5  .353
2023    86.0 36.2 13.8  9.3  3.1 15.0   54.9  .461  24.7  .698  19.4  .422
2022    85.8 32.9 13.1 10.7  2.3 14.1   57.4  .450  21.2  .725  23.2  .377
2021    85.1 35.3 13.8  9.9  1.7 14.4   57.3  .459  23.4  .631  19.2  .403
2020    86.0 36.4 16.3  9.4  3.8 14.0   58.7  .456  23.7  .636  19.1  .387
2019    88.6 39.6 16.9 11.0  2.4 14.6   63.7  .457  25.1  .590  15.9  .346
2018    85.9 40.5 18.5 11.0  3.4 13.8   66.5  .471  28.5  .586  17.0  .390
2017    80.8 41.0 18.3  9.5  4.8 13.9   68.6  .445  24.1  .600  16.6  .315
2016    89.7 38.4 17.3  9.1  2.1 13.5   63.8  .447  24.3  .629  22.0  .335
2015    84.7 37.7 17.4  9.6  3.2 15.7   57.5  .459  25.0  .634  16.4  .370
2014    80.1 39.3 17.7  7.4  2.8 11.9   60.7  .469  24.8  .765  12.7  .336
2013    79.7 39.5 16.6  6.7  2.6 15.7   61.2  .454  25.8  .703  17.2  .347
2012    72.4 36.6 14.9  6.1  1.3 13.0   58.7  .429  22.1  .719  17.7  .352
2011    71.4 41.5 15.9  5.4  4.1 16.0   58.9  .444  24.9  .682   8.1  .264
2010    83.0 41.5 15.7  5.2  3.0 16.2   62.0  .408  21.5  .689  22.6  .338
2009    75.8 41.0 15.7  5.4  3.6 15.0   60.4  .442  23.0  .668  18.7  .371
2008    75.1 41.5 16.5  7.2  3.3 15.5   61.2  .444  20.8  .660  20.9  .334
2007    72.3 38.3 13.1  6.0  2.4 14.0   57.6  .421  23.7  .723  21.1  .321
2006    81.3 38.9 16.4  7.5  2.9 14.8   61.1  .459  23.0  .655  24.8  .413
2005    77.3 39.9 16.4  8.2  2.2 16.0   63.0  .433  20.2  .663  26.9  .345
2004    76.9 37.6 15.3  7.8  1.8 13.9   60.2  .440  21.6  .674  24.2  .387
2003    73.0 37.1 16.9  7.7  1.3 12.6   59.8  .435  23.9  .611  18.4  .346
2002    62.9 34.7 12.8  5.8  1.1 13.3   53.6  .417  20.4  .664  14.6  .317
2001    58.2 35.2 12.6  4.6  1.5 17.4   47.9  .446  19.3  .661   9.4  .289
2000    58.8 30.6 12.8  5.6  1.1 14.1   49.9  .425  19.7  .657  10.8  .317
1999    58.4 31.9 11.1  5.3  1.1 15.3   49.0  .406  19.9  .702  14.0  .333

Like I said, it's not quite Loyola, but the games are certainly fun to watch. Atleast for the level I'm at currently, we are doing alright. (Prestige is at 51 now)

dacman · 03-22-2004, 02:27 PM

I have tried with UC Riverside, but I was getting some of the wrong type of players and after learning that, I went a different direction. If you want to do that I'd look for the following:

Guards & SF: high stamina, high steals, high inside scoring, good handling (3pt and high perimeter D a bonus); at least 1 decent passer and 1 really good shooter in the bunch.

PF & C: decent stamina, high inside scoring, very high rebounds (post D, blocks a bonus); at least 1 monster board man of the two if not both.

I made the mistake of trying to recruit guys strickly on high shooting skills, which aren't really as important for a high paced team I think.

korme · 03-22-2004, 02:38 PM

Did anyone read the article in ESPN the Mag about that DIII team that scores like 130 PPG, gives up nearly the same, and takes like, 70 3pt shots a game? They were 11-5 at the time of the article.

corbes · 03-22-2004, 02:39 PM

That was Grinnell College. There's some threads around here about them.

MikeVick7 · 03-22-2004, 02:58 PM

Yeah that's some pretty revolutionary ball that the coach is implementing there. That might be fun to watch for a while but then it's like...is this really basketball that we're playing here? The fundamentals of players have already gone down in today's ball...this can't be helping.

ScottVib · 03-22-2004, 02:58 PM

Here's the Recap and Box Score from their 2002-2003 game against Division 1 Drake:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=223452181

03-22-2004, 02:22 PM	#3
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	I actually run a slightly watered down version with my Leathernecks. As Peregrine said before, it's vital to have good stamina across the board and you want to make sure all of your guys are capable of stealing or blocking shots, the more turnovers the better. Since I started off with a prestige of 12, I wasn't able to garner the high stats that you are probably looking for, but I still averaged around 85ppg per contest which if you saw the kind of talent I had, was actually quite the feat. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be? Last edited by Neuqua : 03-22-2004 at 02:38 PM.

03-22-2004, 02:27 PM	#5
dacman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: speak to the trout	I have tried with UC Riverside, but I was getting some of the wrong type of players and after learning that, I went a different direction. If you want to do that I'd look for the following: Guards & SF: high stamina, high steals, high inside scoring, good handling (3pt and high perimeter D a bonus); at least 1 decent passer and 1 really good shooter in the bunch. PF & C: decent stamina, high inside scoring, very high rebounds (post D, blocks a bonus); at least 1 monster board man of the two if not both. I made the mistake of trying to recruit guys strickly on high shooting skills, which aren't really as important for a high paced team I think. __________________ No signatures allowed.

03-22-2004, 02:18 PM	#2
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	You can definitely do it, but you need the right players. High stamina is a must for as many players as possible, as well as of course three point shooting, and some guys with good stealing ability to keep up the press. I've had teams that scored over 100 points in a lot of games in a season before. If you don't have high endurance guys though they get tired, commit fouls, etc. It's definitely fun to experiment with.

03-22-2004, 02:38 PM	#6
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Did anyone read the article in ESPN the Mag about that DIII team that scores like 130 PPG, gives up nearly the same, and takes like, 70 3pt shots a game? They were 11-5 at the time of the article.

03-22-2004, 02:39 PM	#7
corbes College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	That was Grinnell College. There's some threads around here about them.

03-22-2004, 02:58 PM	#8
MikeVick7 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ron, Mexico	Yeah that's some pretty revolutionary ball that the coach is implementing there. That might be fun to watch for a while but then it's like...is this really basketball that we're playing here? The fundamentals of players have already gone down in today's ball...this can't be helping.

03-22-2004, 02:58 PM	#9
ScottVib High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My Computer	Here's the Recap and Box Score from their 2002-2003 game against Division 1 Drake: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=223452181

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