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SunDancer · 04-15-2004, 11:29 PM

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I'm so glad that Omorossa finally got her due. Anyone else notice the Trump shove as they were cutting to commericial after they announced that Bill won?

No, care to explain.

Suicane75 · 04-15-2004, 11:31 PM

It looked like as they were all congratulating Bill she went to step in front of Trump or shake his hand and he sort of brushed her back, it was pretty amusing.

SunDancer · 04-15-2004, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

It looked like as they were all congratulating Bill she went to step in front of Trump or shake his hand and he sort of brushed her back, it was pretty amusing.

Sweet. I love how Katrina ripped her. Anyone find Sam's offer funny (by the way, where he get that cash?).

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2004, 02:37 AM

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Sure, he spotted a good piece of property in Manhattan, but that's more realizing an opportunity. His business skills, as I stated, are very overrated.

How is 'realizing oppertunity' NOT business skills? A big part of business skills is realizing oppertunities out there and Trump is very good at that. "Outside his real estate, what has been a good venture for him?".. LOL, so is real estate not a business now? Someone said it is an investment, not a business, which is silly... many, many, many businesses are simply investments in one thing or another.

The reason Trump loses money on some ventures is because he likes to live it up (ie, gold everywhere), not because he's a horrible businessman. He's got tons of cash, which by any businessman's measure is success.

KevinNU7 · 04-16-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Sweet. I love how Katrina ripped her. Anyone find Sam's offer funny (by the way, where he get that cash?).

He's loaded. The showed his apartment in NYC on Dateline Wednesday night.

GrantDawg · 04-16-2004, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

How is 'realizing oppertunity' NOT business skills? A big part of business skills is realizing oppertunities out there and Trump is very good at that. "Outside his real estate, what has been a good venture for him?".. LOL, so is real estate not a business now? Someone said it is an investment, not a business, which is silly... many, many, many businesses are simply investments in one thing or another.

The reason Trump loses money on some ventures is because he likes to live it up (ie, gold everywhere), not because he's a horrible businessman. He's got tons of cash, which by any businessman's measure is success.

If he is able to pull together the backing for his grand schemes (look at the two properties Bill had a choice of over-seeing), I'd say he is a pretty good salesman at the very least.

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2004, 01:16 PM

Indeed, GrantDawg, and a good part of business is being a glorified salesman, basically.

Desnudo · 04-16-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Indeed, GrantDawg, and a good part of business is being a glorified salesman, basically.

I think that really oversimplifies it. You can certainly be successful being a salesman and a glory hound like Trump is. But true long term business, and I mean business success, not personal, is achieved by people focused on other things besides flash and the next big thing. Warren Buffet springs to mind as someone in that vein.

Glengoyne · 04-16-2004, 02:37 PM

I was surprised to see Sam plunk down the 250K. Way back when they were announcing what some of these people do for a living, I was thinking to myself "These people aren't the typical Reality Show cast. Some of these people are raking in some serious coin". Troy is a mortgage broker, and indicated that he made his living loaning his own money. I know I don't have the cash lying around to cover a mortgage.

I really liked the show, eventhough the Donald is so outwardly full of himself. I do hope the tasks next year are more business oriented, and I also hope they learned from the mistake of dividing the teams by the sexes.

SunDancer · 04-16-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

How is 'realizing oppertunity' NOT business skills? A big part of business skills is realizing oppertunities out there and Trump is very good at that. "Outside his real estate, what has been a good venture for him?".. LOL, so is real estate not a business now? Someone said it is an investment, not a business, which is silly... many, many, many businesses are simply investments in one thing or another.

The reason Trump loses money on some ventures is because he likes to live it up (ie, gold everywhere), not because he's a horrible businessman. He's got tons of cash, which by any businessman's measure is success.

Outside of real estate (which to me, is not long-term, "competitive" business) , he hasnt been very successful. His casinos are a mess (where they are being questioned how long they'll last), his old airline Trump Shuttle busted, ect. From polls and articles, it seems he doesnt have excitement from employees working for him. Plus, he also had a nice bankroll in his beginning of things.

Radii · 04-16-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I do hope the tasks next year are more business oriented, and I also hope they learned from the mistake of dividing the teams by the sexes.

I have a bad feeling that overplaying the sexes is going to be what brings this show down, I hope it has one more good season before this happens though.

SunDancer · 04-17-2004, 01:27 PM

According to ESPN, Mark Cuban is looking at getting Kwame for his "first pick".

SunDancer · 04-18-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

According to ESPN, Mark Cuban is looking at getting Kwame for his "first pick".

Speaking of Cuban, I though this was quite funny.
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ISiddiqui · 04-19-2004, 04:24 AM

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Outside of real estate (which to me, is not long-term, "competitive" business)

So if you say it isn't a business, it magically fails to be one?

SunDancer · 04-19-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

So if you say it isn't a business, it magically fails to be one?

I didn't say that. Why I said to me...

04-16-2004, 01:16 PM	#57
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Indeed, GrantDawg, and a good part of business is being a glorified salesman, basically. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-15-2004, 11:31 PM	#52
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	It looked like as they were all congratulating Bill she went to step in front of Trump or shake his hand and he sort of brushed her back, it was pretty amusing.

04-16-2004, 02:37 PM	#59
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I was surprised to see Sam plunk down the 250K. Way back when they were announcing what some of these people do for a living, I was thinking to myself "These people aren't the typical Reality Show cast. Some of these people are raking in some serious coin". Troy is a mortgage broker, and indicated that he made his living loaning his own money. I know I don't have the cash lying around to cover a mortgage. I really liked the show, eventhough the Donald is so outwardly full of himself. I do hope the tasks next year are more business oriented, and I also hope they learned from the mistake of dividing the teams by the sexes.

04-17-2004, 01:27 PM	#62
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	According to ESPN, Mark Cuban is looking at getting Kwame for his "first pick".

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