03-04-2001, 11:09 AM | #1 | ||
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Wyoming Wildfire 2019
This thread marks the progress of the Wyoming Wildfire, a franchise being operated under the GroupThink concept. This is the year 2019-year three of the fledgling expansion team's existence. If you'd like to read through the details for year one and two, including some helpful background on the concept and the rules involved, here is a link: Wyoming Wildfire, 2017 Wyoming Wildfire, 2018 The basic concept of GroupThink (a deliberately temporary name that seems to have stuck) is that we have several forum participants working together to manage an FOF 2001 franchise. Several people have defined roles, and many others are just ad-hoc contributors, which is very welcome. The principal managers of the team are: Owner: QuikSand General Manager: TheRoyalOne Director of Scouting & Player Personnel(Veterans): RPI-Fan Director of Scouting & Player Personnel(Young): Daimyo Offensive Coordinator: FishFan Defensive Coordinator: Subby Salary Cap and Financial Advisor: ez Director of PR & Marketing: Fritz We've had very helpful participation from a number of others, and welcome any more. The job of the people listed above manage the various input, as it relates to their field, and to implement things into a sound strategy. If you'd like to download the game files, you may do so here: Current Wildfire Game Files (as of March 4, morning) Important: By downloading the file. You are agreeing to play by our rules. Chief among them is no simming ahead. If you want to join in and comment, fine-but do not interfere with everyone's enjoyment by violating this concept. That said, we'll be having several different people manage their portions of the season, and we'll use this thread as a home for the reports and updates on our progress. Discussion and debate about team decisions and so forth will continue to be housed in the main forum, generally in threads labeled with the "WW:" or "GroupThink:" indicators. Feel free to chime in, your input is welcome… As for initial 2019 issues Financially we are improving, we made a 58% improvement over 2017, posting "only" a $75,580,000 loss. The salary cap has risen $8,100,000 to $182,500,000. The league's minimum salary has risen $20,000 to $580,000. Please welcome the following players for induction into the Hall of Fame this season: Olindo Mare Courtney Brown Rob Morris Deon Grant Phil Cardinell Lamont Morrison We've recently signed our coach and scout to long term deals, I'll look in week 3 but we will probably hold steady. Ronald Shepard is the only viable replacement. Marco Fox is currently making $350,000 a year and has 4 years remaining on his contract. His weakness at quarterback is a problem for us, we'll go back to Shepard whose only weakness is at wideout. We sign him for 5 years $200,000 and save some money to boot. We only have 3 UFAs: Riddols, Clark and Jiminez. None are worthy of the Franchise Tag and we move on into the Free Agent period. 45 players signed, 44.5 million under the cap. We have the #11 pick this year. We do receive our first passing Trade Offer: DE Jeffrey Webster for QB Heath Curtis and the 17th pick in the 3rd round from the Jaguars. Declined. We're now into RPI-Fan territory for the FA signing period. [This message has been edited by TheRoyalOne (edited 03-04-2001).] |
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03-04-2001, 11:29 AM | #2 |
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Some editing above may be necessary (year references need to be updated, etc.)
One thing to add: - - - To access the game files, you will need to use the community access codes: username: GroupThink password: wildfire The freedrive system has been a bit temperamental and slow, but it should work within a few tries. - - - |
03-04-2001, 11:49 AM | #3 | |
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I'm assuming, from context, that this trade offer came in at the beginning of the free agency period, and is still technically on the table for us. In this group-oriented challenge, I think we need to at least give lip service to the notion of joint decision-making. While this is unlikely to be a deal we'd want to do, our structure makes it very easy for us to make a collective decision on a trade offer we receive. If it passes the fairness test, then by definition, it can be sent back to the offering team and accepted, before the first FA stage is run. I think that we shoud leave that discussion open (again, mainly just in concept-- this one probably isn't worth much chatter). |
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03-04-2001, 11:58 AM | #4 |
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I suppose we could open it for discussion, as the final decision maker of that aspect, I wouldn't have ever accepted it anyway, I mentioned it for the simple fact that we hadn't had one pass the fairness test until then.
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03-04-2001, 01:07 PM | #5 |
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My perspective is that this is a question of: what kind of enterprise is this?
-Are we vasically running (as ez described) a "Village" team where one person is completely autonomous with his portions of the sim? -Or are we running a team where we all participate, and then we have various people in charge of taking in all the input, and distilling it into their judgment of the best decision? While I understand your opinion in this deal, I'm not comfortable with the notion that the sections of the game that you control are simply not up for discussion. You hired a new scout, you kept our current coach, you unilaterally decided to skip the franchise tag, and you (sort of) rejected a trade all without any outside input. Hey, it keep things moving, which I support. But at the same time, we are supposedly running this as a participatory project. I don't disagree with any one of your individual decisions (though I didn't get a chance to look at our options at coach and scout) but I'm raising these questions on process. I'd like to get them resolved now, so we don't have to have this discussion in the midst of some major controversy. (What if you had unilaterally decided to skip the franchise tag, even though we had a player that many people wanted to tag? What if Daimyo just posted a file, saying "here's the entire draft, already run-- I just liked these redliners, and decided to to the whole thing without anyone's input") Let's talk all this through now, while we're still shaping this thing. I'm honestly not trying to force my will on anyone... just trying to make things clear on how the railroad is being run. |
03-04-2001, 01:17 PM | #6 |
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Very understandable. If we want I can get the file back to the pre scout/coach stage and do it over. My read on the situation was that people, particulary you QuikSand, were getting impatient with the time it took to move on and we went forward.
Much the same way that the FA period moved forward in twice the time and the Draft moved forward in twice the time without as much imput going through. And the Season simming section was completely non-existent when it comes to group interaction. A choice needs to be made. Go slower, thus without a "concrete schedule" as to allow more group input, or set the schedule and let more decisions be made by the appropriate parties. With the total group discussion there is no need for "responsibilities", while the faster schedule approach leaves certain people making judgement calls that some may not like but in a role playing sense, that is what we want. I'm for either, it just seemed that things were leaning towards the faster way. |
03-04-2001, 02:03 PM | #7 |
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TRO, I'm glad you're not taking offense to my comments-- we seem to be on the same page. I realize that I exuded frustration with the pacing issues from last season, and I'm not trying to be inconsistent-- I still support having this move frialy quickly.
My thinking is that perhaps we can go with a pretty brisk schedule, but doing so might require that we do have some discussion in advance. For exemple... as the season is being simmed, we start a discussion thread on whether we want to make a change with our coach or scout. We use that to give some direction to the GM, who then perhaps executes that step quickly, using his own judgment. At the same time, perhaps it;'s the responsibility of the financial analyst to review ticket prices, and a recommendation should be on the GM's "desk" by the time of the next pre-season opening stage. Similarly, we can have a nice discussion about the draft now, and can come pretty close to havgin our first pick made even before we see who gets taken ahead of us-- this can cut down the time needed to run the draft. I think some forward-thinking might be the best split between the "participation every step" versus "move quickly with discretion" concepts. Personally, I'm comfy with the decisions you made this season, and I see no reason to even entertain re-doing anything. I'd just like to have a sense that everyone knows what to expect, and we're not there yet. |
03-04-2001, 02:07 PM | #8 |
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I think the scout and coach are probably more important than any single player (seriously) so I would like to take whatever time is necessary to decide on these positions as a group. Perhaps Subby and Fishfan should have the most input on the coach and RPI-fan and I should have the most input on the scout. Although I am not complaining, personally I strongly wish we had opened the pocketbooks a little more to get an all-league scout. I really think it saves money in the long run because with a bad scout you end up paying bad players more than they're worth.
I would especially advocate getting a scout with at least very good in quarterback and linebackers and at least excellent in young talent. We *NEED* a good QB. Subby's has said all along he needs good linebackers. As for the yougn talent... We get one chance per year to get a career starter in FA (and even less once we get near the salary cap). I would guess through the draft we can about two career starters per year. (24 "starters", average career of 10 years, means we need to bring on 2.4 starter calber players per year). Therefore, young talent is extremely important. |
03-04-2001, 03:03 PM | #9 |
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Not trying to be the peanut gallery here - but perhaps you should throw Subby some defensive talent - 390some points allowed in a year?? Yikes!
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03-04-2001, 03:09 PM | #10 |
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FWIW, I didn't see any EXC young talent scouts what were adequate elsewhere. Our new old scout has only one glaring weakness, WR.
As for Subby, he hasn't gotten our 2 top FA picks for his defense so they have been ready to play. Granted he could use a little more help, but we're trying to get it to him. |
03-04-2001, 10:42 PM | #11 |
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After a solid day's worth of discussion, I've come to the conclusion that people feel the best choice for a FA pursuee is DT Wes Barton. He's asking for 32/3, but I nudge that up to 33/3 distributing the extra mil evenly.
As for our re-signees, it's pretty much gradually come to a concensus that none of them are worth signing right now at least, and probably not at all, though if anyone feels otherwise speak now so we'll have a chance to grab them later in FA. After Week 1, Tennessee (his old team is Miami) has thrown a 49/4 deal at Barton. This really brings up a tough point - do we match this, or decide on a new target. For now, I'll throw him a deal of 38/3, but if the bidding goes any higher, I'll put the issue up for discussion again. Burtun inks our deal of 38/3 in Week 2, somewhat surprisingly. The offer I put out there was only worth 170K more per year than Tennessee's. Alas, we have a very, very good defensive line. I sim out to Week 11, but sadly no one of any great value is available, other than a couple decent FBs. None of the OTs we had wanted our still out there. The file can be found at: http://www.freedrive.com/ with the login info provided by QS. It's "wildfire2019.zip" ------------------ Secant, Tangent, Cosin, Sin, 3.14159! [This message has been edited by RPI-Fan (edited 03-04-2001).]
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03-04-2001, 11:13 PM | #12 |
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Do you know why the file is now 9MB?? or am I looking in the wrong place?
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03-04-2001, 11:17 PM | #13 |
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I hope it isn't 9MB, I think you are looking at the total drive space used which accounts for all three zip files.
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03-04-2001, 11:31 PM | #14 |
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No... it shows the size for each file...
2017 was about 2, 2018 was about 4, and 2019 was over 9... I don't mind too much because I can still access it at work, but i think it might certainly dampen outside participation.... |
03-05-2001, 08:45 AM | #15 |
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I agree... I'm in the middle of the 9MB+ download, and that's simply too big. We'll have to pare that down if we want this little exercise to be even remotely accessible to anyone outside the front office staff. Hell, we're having enough trouble just keeping one another in the loop.
When I get it open, I'll check out the contents and see what might be removable. (Do we have extra *.gfa files in there, perhaps?) |
03-05-2001, 08:57 AM | #16 |
lolzcat
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Okay, the mystery is solved, at least in part. The 9MB file is large because it contains two nested universe directories. When unpacked, it will create two different sets of game files:
...FOF2001/universe and ...FOF2001/universe/universe It appears that the subsidiary direcory (the one listed second above) is superfluous. I'm deleting mine, and hoping that the ting will still work okay. If not, I'll post here. Clusterfuck... |
03-05-2001, 09:47 AM | #17 |
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Instead of just replacing all the old files when zipping it up, I'll make a new zip and rename it to be sure this doesn't happen again.
I'm putting the ~5MB file on FreeDrive as we speak (the .fga files account for about half the unzipped size of the universe directory, if not more). The file is "wildfire2019.zip" [This message has been edited by RPI-Fan (edited 03-05-2001).]
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03-05-2001, 10:28 AM | #18 |
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Catch all the latest news HERE
Please let me know if these add flavor or are unwanted fluff. [This message has been edited by Fritz (edited 03-05-2001).]
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03-05-2001, 10:38 AM | #19 |
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I like them fritz
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(Going to try a table format for the FA bids, following each player seperately.)
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03-05-2001, 05:21 PM | #21 |
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The draft is moving along nicely...
Here it is so far (updated as we pick) 1. Greenville - Zonnefeld, Winfred, QB, Middle Tenn. St. 2. Tampa Bay - Colman, Xavier, RB, Kentucky 3. Tennessee - Hines, Monty, DE, Georgia 4. Richmond - Cobb, Terry, DT, New Hampshire 5. New Orleans - Morse, Dustin, WR, Illinois 6. St. Louis - Blake, Matthew, T, Iowa 7. Cleveland - Terry, Levon, WR, East New Mexico 8. Washington - Carter, Terrell, LB, Texas - El Paso 9. Chicago - Reese, Roy, LB, Wake Forest 10. New England - Brennan, Tommy, DT, Jacksonville State 11. Wyoming - Petkovich, Hardy, S, Ohio State 12. Baltimore - Thornton, Clarence, WR, Pittsburgh 13. New York J - Andersen, Ethan, RB, Michigan State 14. Buffalo - Paredes, Roger, DE, Oregon 15. Dallas - Denning, Buddy, LB, Concordia, Wisc. 16. Carolina - McElroy, Phillip, QB, Southern California 17. Jacksonville - Ogden, Dwight, DE, Iowa State 18. Oakland - Hester, John, QB, Kansas State 19. Miami - Turner, Don, DE, Wake Forest 20. Chicago - Gomez, Colin, QB, Minnesota 21. Green Bay - Cambell, Brad, DE, Washington State 22. San Francisco - McBride, Nate, TE, Southern California 23. Portland - Cornish, Jimmie, T, Michigan 24. Tennessee - Asquith, Jeffrey, DE, Arkansas Tech 25. Minnesota - Reynolds, Wade, RB, Central Michigan 26. New York G - Croteau, Bubba, DE, Brown 27. San Diego - McElroy, Benjamin, WR, California 28. Kansas City - Zeigafuse, Toby, TE, Virginia Tech 29. Pittsburgh - Rivers, Mike, G, VMI 30. Baltimore - Stuart, Scottie, G, Minnesota 31. Indianapolis - Sherman, Harry, CB, Syracuse 32. Denver - Cordova, Irving, WR, Arizona State 33. Atlanta - Van Horne, Matthew, TE, North Dakota State 34. Philadelphia - Kennedy, Dwayne, TE, Iowa State 35. Cincinnati - Morton, Shawn, S, Oklahoma State 36. Detroit - Welch, Carl, WR, Miami, Florida 37. Greenville - Stevenson, Austin, DT, Louisville 38. Tampa Bay - Deason, Lenny, G, Penn State 39. Tennessee - Velasquez, Brenden, DT, San Jose State 40. Richmond - Schofer, Donny, LB, East Carolina 41. New Orleans - Lyons, Mitch, TE, Miami, Florida 42. St. Louis - Gandy, Calvin, RB, Baylor 43. Cleveland - Duncan, Jose, DT, Colorado 44. Washington - Freeland, Shaun, WR, Michigan State 45. Los Angeles - Weber, Percy, WR, North Carolina State 46. New England - Woods, Cole, WR, Auburn 47. Wyoming - Feely, Jerome, T, Vanderbilt 48. Seattle - Booth, Heath, T, Syracuse 49. New York J - Rutherford, Jermaine, S, Texas A&M 50. Buffalo - McCurry, Larry, CB, Oklahoma 51. Dallas - Bourgeois, Leo, LB, Mars Hill 52. Carolina - Craig, Bo, RB, Maryland 53. Jacksonville - Earley, Butch, T, Western Carolina 54. Oakland - Wiggins, D.J., C, Ohio 55. Miami - Meadows, Ken, TE, Missouri 56. Buffalo - Jobe, Gene, T, California 57. Green Bay - Gunn, Lawrence, WR, UCLA 58. San Francisco - Echevarria, Vincent, WR, UCLA 59. Portland - Elliott, Carlos, WR, Idaho 60. Arizona - Fabrizio, John, T, Kansas State 61. Minnesota - Porter, Roy, DT, Notre Dame 62. New York G - Brady, Jerald, WR, Kansas 63. San Diego - Bloomgarden, Don, WR, North Carolina 64. Kansas City - Lester, Carlos, S, Maryland 65. Pittsburgh - Carpenter, Jackie, T, Auburn 66. Baltimore - Woods, Wesley, CB, Mississippi State 67. Indianapolis - Schulz, Mack, WR, Findlay 68. Denver - Junkin, Ross, S, Arizona State 69. Atlanta - August, Horace, WR, Duke 70. Philadelphia - Shmitz, Tracy, T, Arizona 71. Cincinnati - Abrams, Todd, CB, Purdue 72. Detroit - Dempsey, Blake, T, Stanford 73. Greenville - Trejo, Allen, WR, La Salle 74. Tampa Bay - Wilson, Bruce, T, West Virginia 75. Tennessee - Cline, A.J., T, Bemidji State 76. Richmond - Nielson, Roy, WR, Mississippi State 77. Tampa Bay - Webster, Jack, WR, Minnesota 78. St. Louis - Maxwell, Donald, WR, Rutgers 79. Cleveland - Johnston, Darrell, DE, Tennessee 80. Cleveland - Bailey, John, DE, Nebraska 81. Los Angeles - Greer, Rickey, WR, Hanover 82. New England - Artis, Eddie, T, Arizona State 83. Wyoming - Csonka, Casey, QB, Florida 84. Seattle - Macon, Kenneth, LB, Arizona State 85. New York J - Morrison, Ryan, DT, Pittsburgh 86. Buffalo - Durham, Skip, TE, Virginia 87. Dallas - Ficken, Nick, CB, Iowa 88. Carolina - Vince, Walter, T, Louisiana State 89. Jacksonville - Calderon, Darrin, G, North Carolina State 90. Oakland - Ellison, Blake, P, Jacksonville State 91. Miami - Fitzgerald, Kenneth, DE, California 92. Chicago - Myers, Brad, CB, Wake Forest 93. New England - Ruschak, Korey, LB, Louisiana State 94. San Francisco - Fisk, Jason, DE, W. Vir. Wesleyan 95. Portland - Whelihan, Charlie, WR, Air Force 96. Arizona - McQuitty, Mark, S, Houston 97. Minnesota - Spencer, Spencer, LB, Oklahoma 98. New York G - Barnhardt, Norbert, WR, Wyoming 99. San Diego - Horton, Dennis, DE, Nebraska 100. Kansas City - Patton, Bryant, S, Louisville 101. Pittsburgh - Blanks, Phillip, S, Clemson 102. Baltimore - Barker, Roger, CB, California 103. Indianapolis - Ramirez, Van, LB, Northwestern 104. Denver - Burkhardt, Omar, T, Toledo 105. Atlanta - Lira, Deon, LB, North Carolina State 106. Philadelphia - Cook, Troy, T, Miami, Florida 107. Cincinnati - Robbins, Melvin, CB, Northwestern 108. Detroit - Singleton, Charles, T, Missouri 109. Greenville - Walters, Randall, T, N. Mexico Highlands 110. Tampa Bay - Walzer, Trevor, WR, Virginia 111. Tennessee - Apodaca, Leslie, S, North Carolina 112. Richmond - Buckley, Sammie, T, Maryland 113. New Orleans - Osborne, K.C., S, Virginia Tech 114. St. Louis - Travis, Bo, CB, Cincinnati 115. Cleveland - Hales, Joel, K, UCLA 116. Washington - Downs, Jared, DT, Indiana 117. Los Angeles - Bernstein, Zach, LB, Rice 118. New England - Hicks, Dana, LB, Iowa 119. Wyoming - Cavallo, Leon, TE, Pittsburgh 120. Seattle - Mize, Aaron, DE, Nebraska 121. New York J - Green, Max, P, Cincinnati 122. Buffalo - Roman, Russell, LB, Louisiana Tech 123. Dallas - Rivers, Ray, DE, Tulane 124. Carolina - Flowers, Jonathan, DE, Southern Mississippi 125. Jacksonville - Cote, Johnnie, S, Alabama 126. Oakland - Gillette, Matt, RB, Findlay 127. Miami - Hutton, Carlton, WR, Michigan 128. Chicago - Bell, Rondell, CB, Nebraska Wesleyan 129. Green Bay - Dolan, Junior, LB, Bucknell 130. San Francisco - Burroughs, Donald, DE, Tennessee 131. Portland - Oliver, Quinn, S, Florida State 132. Arizona - Craig, Ken, WR, Illinois 133. Minnesota - Dunn, Clyde, WR, New Mexico 134. New York G - Sanborn, Johnny, DE, Harvard 135. San Diego - Arnold, Lamont, CB, North Carolina State 136. Kansas City - Rose, Stephen, LB, Virginia 137. Pittsburgh - Fields, Randy, CB, West Virginia 138. Baltimore - Carr, Terry, DE, Franklin & Marshall 139. Indianapolis - Renner, Neil, LB, South Carolina 140. Denver - Collins, Ted, T, Oklahoma State 141. Atlanta - Owens, Joey, LB, Alabama 142. Philadelphia - McClendon, Gilbert, WR, Air Force 143. Cincinnati - Chandler, Jumbo, QB, Tennessee - Martin 144. Detroit - O'Neal, George, WR, Minnesota 145. Greenville - Bush, O.J., T, Eastern Tenn. St. 146. Tampa Bay - Calderon, Ronnie, CB, Southern California 147. Tennessee - Miller, Donald, T, Tarleton State 148. Richmond - Landon, Deron, WR, New Mexico State 149. New Orleans - Pappas, Ike, CB, Syracuse 150. St. Louis - Adame, Casey, WR, St. Peter's, NJ. 151. Cleveland - Butler, Nicky, QB, Texas A&M 152. Washington - Bernard, Clyde, QB, Villanova 153. Los Angeles - Manke, Brandon, LB, Oklahoma 154. New England - Stiggers, Tommy, WR, Hawaii 155. Wyoming - Morrison, Tony, RB, Columbia 156. Seattle - Drayton, Ricky, LB, Missouri 157. New York J - Givens, Amos, RB, Oregon 158. Buffalo - Heath, Earl, DE, Oregon State 159. Dallas - Hailey, Donnell, T, Marist 160. Carolina - Drake, Wendell, DE, New Mexico 161. Jacksonville - Reid, K.C., CB, Alabama A&M 162. Oakland - Parrish, Jackie, RB, Texas Tech 163. Miami - Kennedy, Morris, G, Iona 164. Chicago - Whetstone, Rodney, S, Iowa State 165. Green Bay - Rockcliffe, Rick, CB, Hawaii 166. San Francisco - Schroeder, Scottie, C, Oregon 167. Portland - Bryant, Myron, K, Miami, Ohio 168. Arizona - Flack, K.C., WR, Notre Dame 169. Minnesota - Zerillo, Leroy, S, Clemson 170. New York G - Conway, Albert, CB, Florida State 171. San Diego - McDaniels, Jay, CB, Bucknell 172. Kansas City - Parker, Antonio, DT, Texas Tech 173. Pittsburgh - Dumas, Clay, T, Stanford 174. Baltimore - Warren, Curtis, DE, Iowa 175. Indianapolis - Hughes, Ron, WR, James Madison 176. Denver - Barlow, Ike, DE, Indiana 177. Atlanta - Everhart, Brenden, WR, Boston College 178. Philadelphia - Daniels, Duane, WR, Youngstown State 179. Cincinnati - Mott, Rondell, DT, Michigan 180. Detroit - Hopkins, Melvin, CB, California 181. Greenville - Stermer, Jorge, WR, Fairfield 182. Tampa Bay - Rockwell, Jamie, CB, Robert Morris 183. Tennessee - Riley, Percy, RB, Louisville 184. Richmond - Salvatori, A.J., DE, Tulane 185. New Orleans - Harlan, Gino, LB, Duke 186. St. Louis - Craig, Herman, CB, New Mexico State 187. Cleveland - Longwell, Leo, DT, Boston College 188. Washington - Turnbull, Ralph, DE, Boston College 189. Los Angeles - Putnam, Tracy, RB, Kentucky Wesleyan 190. New England - Alcott, Kelly, WR, Georgia Tech 191. Wyoming - Schreiner, Jack, K, Louisiana State 192. Seattle - Bonner, Leslie, T, Prairie View A&M 193. New York J - MacLeod, James, QB, West Virginia 194. Buffalo - Mincey, Casey, LB, Oregon 195. Dallas - Philips, Julio, T, Southern California 196. Carolina - McWilliams, Dwight, T, Kansas State 197. Jacksonville - Crabb, Heath, DE, Alabama 198. Oakland - Wells, Doug, DT, Florida 199. Miami - Sutter, Jackie, WR, Temple 200. Chicago - Diron, Antoine, TE, Notre Dame 201. Green Bay - Kruger, Tony, CB, Oklahoma State 202. San Francisco - Nixon, Bob, DT, Texas A&M 203. Portland - Fitzgerald, Ross, CB, Arizona State 204. Arizona - McDonald, Alfred, CB, Texas 205. Minnesota - Carrion, Ed, LB, Houston 206. New York G - McDonald, Louis, CB, Toledo 207. San Diego - Fiedler, Omar, DE, Wake Forest 208. Kansas City - Ludwig, Tyrus, DT, UCLA 209. Pittsburgh - Burgess, Louis, CB, Brown 210. Baltimore - Rasmussen, Herb, QB, Central Florida 211. Indianapolis - Cox, Leo, DE, Iowa 212. Denver - Tice, Tyrell, DE, Southern Mississippi 213. Atlanta - Ramirez, Cris, T, Arizona State 214. Philadelphia - Thornhill, Gabe, S, Baylor 215. Cincinnati - Mace, Roderick, RB, Arizona 216. Detroit - Glaser, Karl, CB, Toledo 217. Greenville - Schultz, Barry, CB, Indiana 218. Tampa Bay - Payton, Toby, T, Boston College 219. Tennessee - Waite, Cary, QB, UCLA 220. Richmond - Freeman, George, DE, UCLA 221. New Orleans - Moss, Wes, T, West Virginia 222. St. Louis - Bachman, Kent, RB, Boston College 223. Cleveland - Poole, Curtis, C, Ashland 224. Washington - Tapia, Rex, DE, Oregon 225. Los Angeles - Holliday, Tom, C, Memphis 226. New England - Cochrane, Johnny, DE, Texas A&M 227. Wyoming - Torelli, Zach, LB, Mississippi 228. Seattle - Horner, Dwight, CB, Oklahoma State 229. New York J - Grant, Carlton, S, Georgia 230. Buffalo - Burkett, Ricardo, CB, Texas 231. Dallas - Linares, Alex, CB, California 232. Carolina - Bowser, James, CB, South Carolina 233. Jacksonville - Whitfield, Jay, LB, Clemson 234. Oakland - Mathis, Sammie, LB, Pittsburgh 235. Miami - Berry, Donald, RB, Notre Dame 236. Chicago - Linquist, Gary, RB, Oregon 237. Green Bay - Morton, Terrance, RB, Alabama 238. San Francisco - Mooberry, Johnnie, LB, Penn State 239. Portland - Arce, A.J., LB, Oberlin 240. Arizona - Carlson, Grady, T, Marshall 241. Minnesota - Small, Les, WR, Rutgers 242. New York G - Woodson, Dominic, G, Wake Forest 243. San Diego - Florence, Chris, RB, N. Mexico Highlands 244. Kansas City - Stillman, Bob, C, Indiana 245. Pittsburgh - Pearson, Clarence, QB, Houston 246. Baltimore - Green, Jimmie, DT, SW Texas St. 247. Indianapolis - Choate, David, DE, Cincinnati 248. Denver - Vanderkellen, Alfred, CB, Virginia 249. Atlanta - Coffey, Lamar, T, Mississippi State 250. Philadelphia - Ramirez, Eddie, CB, Central Washington 251. Cincinnati - Perlman, Zach, DT, Elon College 252. Detroit - Foley, Jerald, DE, Mount Union [This message has been edited by Daimyo (edited 03-06-2001).] |
03-05-2001, 07:13 PM | #22 |
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Through this pick I think we have a very good draft!
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03-06-2001, 08:45 PM | #23 |
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Discussion on this section can be found here Specific moves: Signed: FB Winters 4yr G Shultz 4yr DT Lyons 4yr CB Blanchard 4yr LB Watson 4yr DE Watkins 4yr TE Lyon 4yr WR Autry WR Thornton S Braham CB Snyder Cut: G Buckner (Livid) LB Robinson (makes $2,500,00 as a bench warmer, needed couple more roster spots) S Hume (same as Robinson) Here is our roster coming out of camp: BTW, Riddols signed a 2 yr 26 million dollar deal to be the Dolphins backup.
We had no breakouts. DE Watkins lost most of his potential which makes him worthless. LB Torelli isn't as good anymore S Petkovich isn't quite the super stud, but should still be good. WR Fonseca is getting near maxed out, he was originally mainly a deep threat. We'll now discuss cuts which FishFan can execute and then run Pre Season. File is on Geocities again as the file size is smaller. ------------------ Wildfire Files Member of the Village Challenge II Cleveland Browns [This message has been edited by TheRoyalOne (edited 03-06-2001).] [This message has been edited by TheRoyalOne (edited 03-07-2001).] |
03-07-2001, 01:25 PM | #24 |
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I made the following cuts before preseason to trim the roster to 53:
RB Slagle TE Hoffmann TE Bullock WR Watkins WR Thornton T Newsome T Denman DE Watkins DT Mares LB Crawford S Riley In our first preseason game, we are shutout 13-0 and DT Wes Barton goes down for 2-3 months with a dislocated elbow. The good news: Csonka completed 6 of 9 passes in his debut. In week two of preseason, we struggle again offensively, losing 20-7 to the Ravens. Another serious injury: QB Marcus Preston goes down with a bruised sternum. He'll be shelved for 2-3 months, as well. McCorvey and Csonka will split the reps the rest of the preseason. In Week 3, the Wildfire offense explodes for 51 points in a 51-10 rout of the Patriots. McCorvey throw for three TD passes and id named the team's starting QB for week 1 of the regular season. CB Aaron Wilkens hyperextended his knee and will be held out of the last preseason game. The defense helped out by picking off seven passes as "the Russian" and Jay Stokes each had a pair. We came back to earth in week 4, suffering a 34-3 pounding at the hands of the Falcons. Wyoming finished 1-3 in preseason action. The following players will miss at least the season opener due to injuries: DT Wes Barton LB Roderick Erdahl QB Marcus Preston CB Aaron Wilkens RB Tony Morrison |
03-07-2001, 01:35 PM | #25 |
lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Hey Zeus Freakin' Cry Sssst!
I don't think I can take another season of injuries...where's the f-ing demerol?
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