The FOFC Enigma Puzzle #6

[enigma]

Remember to post the answer after you've claimed the title of the new enigma!

Puzzle #6

Today we deal with matters ancient,
Poets of prodigious rhyme,
Two wrote of a famed six hundred,
Warriors of imperial time.

Two did write of love and loss,
One to Lady Horton,
One more script to old McAndrew,
And our list is done.

Six different poems have we here,
One more clue I'll give,
But three poets wrote these six,
A pair from each to sieve.

To sieve? What's that? Are you confused?
Our puzzle's not finis.
Taking words from each of these,
The last of all it must be.

Six words is yet a bit unweildy,
So another clue to guide,
Love lost must be the first of all,
The valorous must bide.

If you've gotten these words right,
In order as a list,
Take a letter, the first from first,
And so on through the rest.

Six letters then, are all that's left.
A veritable jumble.
When you've untangled my password,
Even a mod will grumble.

[enigma]

Here is the record of the current enigmae:

Enigma #1: Clues needed 1, Posts 46, Time 7:22

Enigma #2: Clues needed 1, Posts 27, Time 25:46

Enigma #3: Clues needed 0, Posts 2, Time 1:36

Enigma #4: Clues needed 1, Posts 47, Time 56:46

Enigma #5: Clues needed 0, Posts 19, Time 0:47

Enigma #6:

[Solecismic]

I think Tennyson wrote of little other than lost love. This is going to be tough, finding the right poem for him. I think I have the other five.

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

I think Tennyson wrote of little other than lost love. This is going to be tough, finding the right poem for him. I think I have the other five.

I'll share...here's my list.

"The Charge of the Light Brigade" - Tennyson
"The Last of the Light Brigade" - Kipling
"When We Two Parted" - Byron
"In Memoriam A.H.H." - Tennyson
"She walks in Beauty" - Byron
"McAndrew's Hymn" - Kipling

Edit - I thought the Tennyson one was apparent...I guessed on Byron

[Shkspr]

I think the obvious lines about love and loss should suffice for Tennyson. I think I've got the others as well - but other than the general hint about moving the war-related poems down in the list, I don't know if I can figure out the order they come in. What would make a mod grumble? Perhaps I should try the password "NSFWPICS"?

[Solecismic]

Originally Posted by VPI97

I'll share...here's my list.

"The Charge of the Light Brigade" - Tennyson
"The Last of the Light Brigade" - Kipling
"When We Two Parted" - Byron
"In Memoriam A.H.H." - Tennyson
"She walks in Beauty" - Byron
"McAndrew's Hymn" - Kipling

That includes the five. Not sure of In Memoriam from Tennyson, I'm trying "And Ask Ye Why These Sad Tears Stream".

But I have no idea how to order the last words.

Tears, Innocent, Port, Hundred, Brigade, (Dreary?)

[Shkspr]

Ah, I was trying to take the last words in each TITLE and getting nowhere.

[VPI97]

Originally Posted by Shkspr

Ah, I was trying to take the last words in each TITLE and getting nowhere.

Ditto

[VPI97]

Anagrams make my head hurt.


Anagramming something when I'm not sure of the letters makes my head hurt worse.

[Solecismic]

I like anagrams, but I wish we had a little more to go on here. These last words don't exactly lead to meaty letter combinations - it's basically a foozle hunt right now.

[enigma]

First clue: In Memoriam A.H.H is normally regarded as a collection of 100+ works. The correct one is in there, but judging from the words, you haven't the right one. You're 4 for 6 identifying the poems so far.

I knew "love and loss" would be troublesome, it's 90% of poetry after all. Try being more literal.

[Shkspr]

I must say, after fleeing to the Internet to find a "more literal" identification for these poems, I have to say I'm rather disgusted at how lucrative the term paper business has become. Oh, and many of them are full of errors, too.

And how many people out there are making a living by mirroring amazon.com's content and scamming money from the affiliate program, anyway? Hundreds, at least.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Shkspr

And how many people out there are making a living by mirroring amazon.com's content and scamming money from the affiliate program, anyway? Hundreds, at least.

Many of these are actually legal I believe. I'm pretty sure Amazon allows other approved sites to use their database of information.

[enigma]

Apparently, this is too hard...

[Shkspr]

It's the "love and loss" poems that are throwing folks off, especially when both are apparently incorrect. I think several people independently came up with more or less the same six poems, and if those were right, the puzzle becomes simply one of trying different combinations of "lasts" and "firsts".

Regarding "In Memoriam", the clear literal reference is to stanza 27, but message #11 suggests that we haven't got the right one. Byron, on the other hand, has written extensively enough on Love and Loss that it's difficult to pick apart the canon to find the proper poem. If there are any more clues in the puzzle to narrow down the search, it's safe to say, I think, that we have missed them.

[enigma]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Tears, Innocent, Port, Hundred, Brigade, (Dreary?)

You will not find, in this list, the last word of stanza 27.

As for the Byron, well, a quick Google search assures me that it's not more obscure than I think.

I suspect that the password can be solved with only 5 of 6 words, the sixth would make it easier of course.

If there is still trouble, I'll post another hint on the Byron tomorrow.

[Buzzbee]

XXVII.

I envy not in any moods
The captive void of noble rage,
The linnet born within the cage,
That never knew the summer woods:
I envy not the beast that takes
His license in the field of time,
Unfetter’d by the sense of crime,
To whom a conscience never wakes;

Nor, what may count itself as blest,
The heart that never plighted troth
But stagnates in the weeds of sloth;
Nor any want-begotten rest.

I hold it true, whate’er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
’Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[enigma]

Solved.

Answer was: ranted

A from "All", Byron, quoted by Buzzbee above
E from "Me", Tennyson's poem about swimming
N from "Innocent", Byron's "she walks"
T from "Port", Kipling and McAndrew
R from "Hundred", Tennyson's Light Brigade poem
D from "Brigade", Kipling's Light Brigade poem.

I hope to get back with a new puzzle tonight.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by enigma

Solved.

Answer was: ranted

A from "All", Byron, quoted by Buzzbee above
E from "Me", Tennyson's poem about swimming
N from "Innocent", Byron's "she walks"
T from "Port", Kipling and McAndrew
R from "Hundred", Tennyson's Light Brigade poem
D from "Brigade", Kipling's Light Brigade poem.

I hope to get back with a new puzzle tonight.

Nice job!

[Maple Leafs]

Congrats to the winner...

Let me just throw something out there. As much as I like the concept and enjoy all the new puzzles, the one thing I find a little annoying about the Enigma game is that it seems to encourage people to work alone. When Quik or Jim were posting puzzles, it seemed like everyone worked together on them, and the final solution was just one more step along the road. With the Enigma, it seems like everyone works on their own in hopes of "winning".

Which I guess leads to the question: is that good or bad?