Lots of Anti-War Rhetoric

DaleJrFan81599 · 02-26-2003, 09:11 PM

I'd like to say that all of the people mentioned in this board have the right to free speech, because this is a free country, well almost.

But during the Grammy Awards, I heard an incorrect statement from Fred Durst, whoever the hell he is, wrong in grammar, and missing a backup statement.

"Oh, I think we're all in AGREEANCE (supposed to be Agreement) that this war should end soon"

However for CBS, a network ironically backed by the right (the music industry mostly being left) a network hosting the grammys not to cut this out is downright wrong. Why did they cut Sheryll Crow's song, and why didnt they cut this juvenile delinquent who probably adds offensive lyrics brainwashing children all over the U.S off? Regardless, this backs up my statements on other boards around the net that Actors, and Musicians are not Politicians. Instead of the grammys being about awarding musical achievement, it's turned into a political rally.

I'm pretty sure, all of us, who watch ESPN with great interest have heard about Toni Smith, a Female College Basketball player who opposes the U.S Flag when the National Anthem is played. Pay no attention to this terrorist, America. It's obvious that Smith has her facts wrong, the professors mainly showing radical ideas and needs to learn in a less radical environment.

There's only one thing that keeps me from wanting these people arrested or dragged out and tortured, that is our Constitution. If these people want to dis the U.S Flag, or disrespect our President, then they should get the hell out of our country. Sure, they may have the right to free speech, but to my eyes, I don't give a rat's tail.

astralhaze · 02-26-2003, 09:13 PM

Seig heil mein fuhrer!

ice4277 · 02-26-2003, 09:24 PM

Personally I think Fred Durst is a turd but, to say you want people who disagree with your beliefs dragged out and tortured does not say much about you as a person either.

DaleJrFan81599 · 02-26-2003, 09:27 PM

Only if it were possible, I didn't mean it as if I wanted it to really happen. What I meant to say was that these Events which award Musical and Acting Achievement should'nt be turned into indoctrination stations.

McSweeny · 02-26-2003, 09:30 PM

but isn't protest a very big part of music? it always has been and it always will be. Why should an award show for musicians be any different?

ice4277 · 02-26-2003, 09:30 PM

I agree with you about keeping politics out of award shows and whatnot but

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Only if it were possible

hearing things like this just bother the hell out of me.

CamEdwards · 02-26-2003, 09:31 PM

I now dub thee Asshat-haze.

Dale fan said the thing that makes him not want to have these appeasers beaten and tortured is the Constitution.

If this really were Nazi Germany, then your ass would be sitting in a jail cell right now, because you don't support this government... but that doesn't matter because pointing out that in America, you're free to act like an asshat doesn't really support the belief of most appeasers that President Bush is a Nazi, that he's a bigger threat than Saddam, and that if we all listen to Sheryl Crow, the world will be a better place.

/rant

Buddy Grant · 02-26-2003, 09:36 PM

Personally I am in complete agreeance with DaleJrFan, it's about time this country learned to butter it's muffin. And to those flag burning folksingers that protested the other day, that's not free speech, that's free garbage.

astralhaze · 02-26-2003, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by CamEdwards
I now dub thee Asshat-haze.

Dale fan said the thing that makes him not want to have these appeasers beaten and tortured is the Constitution.

If this really were Nazi Germany, then your ass would be sitting in a jail cell right now, because you don't support this government... but that doesn't matter because pointing out that in America, you're free to act like an asshat doesn't really support the belief of most appeasers that President Bush is a Nazi, that he's a bigger threat than Saddam, and that if we all listen to Sheryl Crow, the world will be a better place.

/rant

That was not my point. Whether you consider people who are against the war appeasers or not is irrelevant. My bone to pick were his two statements. One, that he would beat them and torture them if not for the constitution and two, that anyone who criticizes the government should leave the country. Doesn't sound like he is really in favor of freedom now does it? Freedom of speech, as long as you agree with dalejr.

DaleJrFan81599 · 02-26-2003, 09:44 PM

Doesn't sound like we're in freedom when you haze support music award events which turn into political indoctrination stations. Where are the majority's free speech rights ?

McSweeny · 02-26-2003, 09:45 PM

why should i have to leave the country if i don't agree with the government? i don't remember signing any contract or anything

Subby · 02-26-2003, 09:49 PM

I totally agree with Buddy Grant. Those fuckmasters can just go fuck some fucking animals or some other shit that dope-smoking fucking communists do.

I mean go live in another country like Guam or Micronesia or Puerto Rico or something where they don't have the great Constitution of the USA.

DaleJrFan81599 · 02-26-2003, 09:54 PM

Yeah, does it look like those damn flagburners have a better way to govern our country, do they have a solution ? I'd like to see em try. Will those flagburners protect our borders ? They'll most likely make us all follow Lenin.

In World War II, after Pearl Harbor, men and women from all around signed up for military service. After Sept. 11th, only 2 hours after, protests emerged all around college campuses.

You do the math, it's time the majority take back America, the real roughnecks, the guys who are pious, the guys who love those all-american words called Liberty and Justice and the Republic for which it stands. We've been hiding our true feelings for too long, I stand behind my President, the Congress, and the Senate.

McSweeny · 02-26-2003, 10:01 PM

more power to you

no one is stopping you from enlisting in the army, go right ahead

lynchjm24 · 02-26-2003, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by DaleJrFan81599

We've been hiding our true feelings for too long, I stand behind my President, the Congress, and the Senate.

Here's a quick civics lession for ya Dale. The Senate is part of Congress.

McSweeny · 02-26-2003, 10:03 PM

boo-yah

astralhaze · 02-26-2003, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by DaleJrFan81599
Doesn't sound like we're in freedom when you haze support music award events which turn into political indoctrination stations. Where are the majority's free speech rights ?

That has nothing to do with free speech. That has to do with corporate programing choices. As for your question, you ever watch Fox News?

McSweeny · 02-26-2003, 10:22 PM

you mean the government doesn't run the grammys?

astralhaze · 02-26-2003, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by DaleJrFan81599
Yeah, does it look like those damn flagburners have a better way to govern our country, do they have a solution ?

I have never burned a flag, nor had any desire to, nor do I forsee myself doing so in the future. I do support the right to burn the flag, but that is another conversation. Yes, we have solutions, you won't want to hear them though.

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I'd like to see em try. Will those flagburners protect our borders ? They'll most likely make us all follow Lenin.

Yup, most likely

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In World War II, after Pearl Harbor, men and women from all around signed up for military service. After Sept. 11th, only 2 hours after, protests emerged all around college campuses.

They did?

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You do the math, it's time the majority take back America, the real roughnecks, the guys who are pious, the guys who love those all-american words called Liberty and Justice and the Republic for which it stands. We've been hiding our true feelings for too long, I stand behind my President, the Congress, and the Senate.

Yeah, you stand behind liberty and justice allright. As long as they agree with you. Otherwise, torture and kill em.

KWhit · 02-26-2003, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by astralhaze

Yeah, you stand behind liberty and justice allright. As long as they agree with you. Otherwise, torture and kill em.

Awesome.

KWhit · 02-26-2003, 10:34 PM

Hey Dale,

Are you ROBINPHOENIX from the OOTP boards?

KWhit · 02-26-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by DaleJrFan81599
But during the Grammy Awards, I heard an incorrect statement from Fred Durst, whoever the hell he is, wrong in grammar, and missing a backup statement.

Are you really criticizing his grammar with this sentence?

zippy256 · 02-26-2003, 10:42 PM

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America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say 'You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man who's words make your blood boil, and who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.' You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of it's citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.

-Micheal Douglas, The American President

That about sums up my feelings on the issue.

astralhaze · 02-26-2003, 10:47 PM

Amen.

DaleJrFan81599 · 02-26-2003, 10:52 PM

Well, that was from a movie. Again, what right do actors and actresses have to participate in the world stage of Politics ?

KWhit · 02-26-2003, 10:55 PM

Because they are American citizens.

McSweeny · 02-26-2003, 11:00 PM

what right do you have to participate in the world of politics?

DaleJrFan81599 · 02-26-2003, 11:02 PM

An answer to the other man, Yes I watch Fox News. I watch all the networks. A point I want to get out, if they want to protest, fine. But if they turn around and start burning Stars and Stripes, then there's got to be a problem.

JPhillips · 02-26-2003, 11:53 PM

Dale: Ronald Reagan, Charlton Heston, Arnold, those bastards should be tortured for their beliefs too. I mean crap, what the hell do some dumbass actors know?

Subby: Since no one else will say it, hah hah! (Micronesia was an especially good choice)

astralhaze · 02-27-2003, 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by DaleJrFan81599
An answer to the other man, Yes I watch Fox News. I watch all the networks. A point I want to get out, if they want to protest, fine. But if they turn around and start burning Stars and Stripes, then there's got to be a problem.

Who is burning the flag? Where is this rampant flag burning? What the fuck are you talking about? You start with one statement, then move to another one, then another one, with no consistency whatsoever besides the theme that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a flag burner, communist, should be tortured and killed, aborts and eats fetuses, etc. Then you have the balls to start a thread about how your free speech rights were being infringed upon because they made some jokes about Dale Earnhardt? Jesus Christ allmighty.

DaleJrFan81599 · 02-27-2003, 01:37 AM

Your remarks mean nothing to me Astralhaze, Free speech to one man can mean the other to the latter. So, cry me a river about your politics and your personal attacks. I don't give a blast anymore

astralhaze · 02-27-2003, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by DaleJrFan81599
Your remarks mean nothing to me Astralhaze, Free speech to one man can mean the other to the latter. So, cry me a river about your politics and your personal attacks. I don't give a blast anymore

andy m · 02-27-2003, 02:27 AM

burn all flags.

Chief Rum · 02-27-2003, 02:56 AM

I have to admit that this is one of the funniest threads I have read in some time. I'm glad I missed it.

Chief Rum

Fritz · 02-27-2003, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by Buddy Grant
Personally I am in complete agreeance with DaleJrFan, it's about time this country learned to butter it's muffin. And to those flag burning folksingers that protested the other day, that's not free speech, that's free garbage.

When you say "this country" you, of course, mean Canada - right?

ice4277 · 02-27-2003, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by CamEdwards
I now dub thee Asshat-haze.

Dale fan said the thing that makes him not want to have these appeasers beaten and tortured is the Constitution.

If this really were Nazi Germany, then your ass would be sitting in a jail cell right now, because you don't support this government... but that doesn't matter because pointing out that in America, you're free to act like an asshat doesn't really support the belief of most appeasers that President Bush is a Nazi, that he's a bigger threat than Saddam, and that if we all listen to Sheryl Crow, the world will be a better place.

/rant

So, we would then agree that the Constitution is in place to keep people like him from going after anybody who doesn't share his beliefs? He talks about 'if you disrespect the president, get the hell out'. Well, since I don't agree with many of the steps he is taking in the current conflict, does that mean he thinks I am 'disrespecting him' and should get the hell out too?

Tarkus · 02-27-2003, 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by ice4277
So, we would then agree that the Constitution is in place to keep people like him from going after anybody who doesn't share his beliefs? He talks about 'if you disrespect the president, get the hell out'. Well, since I don't agree with many of the steps he is taking in the current conflict, does that mean he thinks I am 'disrespecting him' and should get the hell out too?

Yes.

Tarkus

albionmoonlight · 02-27-2003, 07:29 AM

Question for dalejr. If it were in your power, would you abolish the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution? I know that sounds like a loaded question, but I ask it seriously based on your initial comment.

Statement by albionmoonight. The best way to counteract those who disagree with you is not to advocate for their death and exile and call them stupid. It is instead to use your free speech rights to present your side of the story in such a way that people cannot help but agree with you because you are right.

Finally--for extremists on both sides who are wondering how to "convert" a moderate like me. If you are against the war, do NOT tell me that I "want to kill Iraqi babies" because I do not sign your anti-war petition (as one woman told me when I refused to sign her petition); if you are for the war, do not tell me that I am unAmerican or that I should leave the country because I believe that war should be our reluctant last resort. Calling me names is not converting me, people.

ice4277 · 02-27-2003, 07:38 AM

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Finally--for extremists on both sides who are wondering how to "convert" a moderate like me. If you are against the war, do NOT tell me that I "want to kill Iraqi babies" because I do not sign your anti-war petition (as one woman told me when I refused to sign her petition); if you are for the war, do not tell me that I am unAmerican or that I should leave the country because I believe that war should be our reluctant last resort. Calling me names is not converting me, people.

Amen.

Mountain · 02-27-2003, 08:42 AM

The irony to me is that someone who is so opposed to totalitarian governments, which torture and kill their citizens for their dissenting views, would advocate the same thing here in America while at the same time stating he is supporting the Constitution.

The beauty of this country is that we have a right to express our disatisfaction with our government without fear of reprisal and retirbution. Your view is all wrong. As an American citizen we have the right to protest our govenrment because of being a citizen, as opposed to having to prove we are right to protest before we do so. It is you who are completely in conflict with the American ideal and our Constitution by suppression of ideas. Your view is far more Leninsit/Stalinist than any of the "liberal" protestors.

Believe it or not, I support the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms because the last resort to an oppressive governemnt is an armed citizenry.

Mountain · 02-27-2003, 08:44 AM

Oh, and by the way. I feel fairly certain that there was no problem disagreeing with Bill Clinton, so I gues that meant you were disrespecting the president and you should have gotten the Hell out of the counrty from 1992-2000.

Ben E Lou · 02-27-2003, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by Mountain
Oh, and by the way. I feel fairly certain that there was no problem disagreeing with Bill Clinton, so I gues that meant you were disrespecting the president and you should have gotten the Hell out of the counrty from 1992-2000.

If he had any honor whatsoever, that rapist would have left the White House on his own because the shame he brought to that office.

Fritz · 02-27-2003, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by Mountain
The beauty of this country is that we have a right to express our disatisfaction with our government without fear of reprisal and retirbution.

sure we do

Maple Leafs · 02-27-2003, 08:59 AM

Wow. This thread lasted exactly two minutes before someone tried to win the argument by comparing the person he disgareed with to a nazi. Two minutes! I think that must be a record, even for FOFC.

Can we start invoking Godwin's Law?

sachmo71 · 02-27-2003, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Maple Leafs
Wow. This thread lasted exactly two minutes before someone tried to win the argument by comparing the person he disgareed with to a nazi. Two minutes! I think that must be a record, even for FOFC.

Can we start invoking Godwin's Law?

Sweet. I support the invocation.

Fritz · 02-27-2003, 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by sachmo71
Sweet. I support the invocation.

Does this involve an alter and nipple wax?

Aylmar · 02-27-2003, 09:28 AM

Wait, if CBS is backed by the right, why does Dan Rather still work there?

sachmo71 · 02-27-2003, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
Does this involve an alter and nipple wax?

One can only hope.

02-26-2003, 09:13 PM	#2
astralhaze College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Seig heil mein fuhrer! __________________ I can understand Brutus at every meaning, but that parahraphy threw me for a loop.

02-26-2003, 09:31 PM	#7
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	I now dub thee Asshat-haze. Dale fan said the thing that makes him not want to have these appeasers beaten and tortured is the Constitution. If this really were Nazi Germany, then your ass would be sitting in a jail cell right now, because you don't support this government... but that doesn't matter because pointing out that in America, you're free to act like an asshat doesn't really support the belief of most appeasers that President Bush is a Nazi, that he's a bigger threat than Saddam, and that if we all listen to Sheryl Crow, the world will be a better place. /rant __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

02-26-2003, 09:49 PM	#12
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	I totally agree with Buddy Grant. Those fuckmasters can just go fuck some fucking animals or some other shit that dope-smoking fucking communists do. I mean go live in another country like Guam or Micronesia or Puerto Rico or something where they don't have the great Constitution of the USA. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

02-26-2003, 09:54 PM	#13
DaleJrFan81599 In The Penalty Box Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Budweiser Chevy, maybe a cheap replica	Yeah, does it look like those damn flagburners have a better way to govern our country, do they have a solution ? I'd like to see em try. Will those flagburners protect our borders ? They'll most likely make us all follow Lenin. In World War II, after Pearl Harbor, men and women from all around signed up for military service. After Sept. 11th, only 2 hours after, protests emerged all around college campuses. You do the math, it's time the majority take back America, the real roughnecks, the guys who are pious, the guys who love those all-american words called Liberty and Justice and the Republic for which it stands. We've been hiding our true feelings for too long, I stand behind my President, the Congress, and the Senate. Last edited by DaleJrFan81599 : 02-26-2003 at 09:55 PM.

02-26-2003, 10:47 PM	#24
astralhaze College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Amen. __________________ I can understand Brutus at every meaning, but that parahraphy threw me for a loop.

02-26-2003, 09:24 PM	#3
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	Personally I think Fred Durst is a turd but, to say you want people who disagree with your beliefs dragged out and tortured does not say much about you as a person either.

02-26-2003, 09:27 PM	#4
DaleJrFan81599 In The Penalty Box Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Budweiser Chevy, maybe a cheap replica	Only if it were possible, I didn't mean it as if I wanted it to really happen. What I meant to say was that these Events which award Musical and Acting Achievement should'nt be turned into indoctrination stations.

02-26-2003, 09:30 PM	#5
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	but isn't protest a very big part of music? it always has been and it always will be. Why should an award show for musicians be any different?

02-26-2003, 09:36 PM	#8
Buddy Grant High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000	Personally I am in complete agreeance with DaleJrFan, it's about time this country learned to butter it's muffin. And to those flag burning folksingers that protested the other day, that's not free speech, that's free garbage.

02-26-2003, 09:44 PM	#10
DaleJrFan81599 In The Penalty Box Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Budweiser Chevy, maybe a cheap replica	Doesn't sound like we're in freedom when you haze support music award events which turn into political indoctrination stations. Where are the majority's free speech rights ?

02-26-2003, 09:45 PM	#11
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	why should i have to leave the country if i don't agree with the government? i don't remember signing any contract or anything

02-26-2003, 10:01 PM	#14
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	more power to you no one is stopping you from enlisting in the army, go right ahead

02-26-2003, 10:03 PM	#16
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	boo-yah

02-26-2003, 10:22 PM	#18
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	you mean the government doesn't run the grammys?

02-26-2003, 10:34 PM	#21
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Hey Dale, Are you ROBINPHOENIX from the OOTP boards?

02-26-2003, 10:52 PM	#25
DaleJrFan81599 In The Penalty Box Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Budweiser Chevy, maybe a cheap replica	Well, that was from a movie. Again, what right do actors and actresses have to participate in the world stage of Politics ?

02-26-2003, 10:55 PM	#26
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Because they are American citizens.

02-26-2003, 11:00 PM	#27
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	what right do you have to participate in the world of politics?

02-26-2003, 11:02 PM	#28
DaleJrFan81599 In The Penalty Box Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Budweiser Chevy, maybe a cheap replica	An answer to the other man, Yes I watch Fox News. I watch all the networks. A point I want to get out, if they want to protest, fine. But if they turn around and start burning Stars and Stripes, then there's got to be a problem.

02-26-2003, 11:53 PM	#29
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Dale: Ronald Reagan, Charlton Heston, Arnold, those bastards should be tortured for their beliefs too. I mean crap, what the hell do some dumbass actors know? Subby: Since no one else will say it, hah hah! (Micronesia was an especially good choice) __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

02-27-2003, 01:37 AM	#31
DaleJrFan81599 In The Penalty Box Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Budweiser Chevy, maybe a cheap replica	Your remarks mean nothing to me Astralhaze, Free speech to one man can mean the other to the latter. So, cry me a river about your politics and your personal attacks. I don't give a blast anymore

02-27-2003, 02:27 AM	#33
andy m High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: norwich, UK	burn all flags. __________________ mostly harmless FOFL 2009 champs - Norwich Quagmire

02-27-2003, 02:56 AM	#34
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I have to admit that this is one of the funniest threads I have read in some time. I'm glad I missed it. Chief Rum __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

02-27-2003, 07:29 AM	#38
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Question for dalejr. If it were in your power, would you abolish the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution? I know that sounds like a loaded question, but I ask it seriously based on your initial comment. Statement by albionmoonight. The best way to counteract those who disagree with you is not to advocate for their death and exile and call them stupid. It is instead to use your free speech rights to present your side of the story in such a way that people cannot help but agree with you because you are right. Finally--for extremists on both sides who are wondering how to "convert" a moderate like me. If you are against the war, do NOT tell me that I "want to kill Iraqi babies" because I do not sign your anti-war petition (as one woman told me when I refused to sign her petition); if you are for the war, do not tell me that I am unAmerican or that I should leave the country because I believe that war should be our reluctant last resort. Calling me names is not converting me, people.

02-27-2003, 08:42 AM	#40
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	The irony to me is that someone who is so opposed to totalitarian governments, which torture and kill their citizens for their dissenting views, would advocate the same thing here in America while at the same time stating he is supporting the Constitution. The beauty of this country is that we have a right to express our disatisfaction with our government without fear of reprisal and retirbution. Your view is all wrong. As an American citizen we have the right to protest our govenrment because of being a citizen, as opposed to having to prove we are right to protest before we do so. It is you who are completely in conflict with the American ideal and our Constitution by suppression of ideas. Your view is far more Leninsit/Stalinist than any of the "liberal" protestors. Believe it or not, I support the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms because the last resort to an oppressive governemnt is an armed citizenry. __________________ At death you will receive everlasting consciousness . . . So I've got that going for me.

02-27-2003, 08:44 AM	#41
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	Oh, and by the way. I feel fairly certain that there was no problem disagreeing with Bill Clinton, so I gues that meant you were disrespecting the president and you should have gotten the Hell out of the counrty from 1992-2000. __________________ At death you will receive everlasting consciousness . . . So I've got that going for me.

02-27-2003, 08:59 AM	#44
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Wow. This thread lasted exactly two minutes before someone tried to win the argument by comparing the person he disgareed with to a nazi. Two minutes! I think that must be a record, even for FOFC. Can we start invoking Godwin's Law?

02-27-2003, 09:28 AM	#47
Aylmar High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles	Wait, if CBS is backed by the right, why does Dan Rather still work there? __________________ "At its best, football is still football, an amalgam of thought and violence, chess with broken bones and shredded ligaments." -- Dave Kindred

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