Veterans Committee selects nobody

Buccaneer · 03-02-2005, 07:49 PM

COOPERSTOWN -- None of the 25 candidates eligible for election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame by the Committee on Baseball Veterans were named on the required 75% of ballots cast, it was announced today. Wade Boggs and Ryne Sandberg, the Baseball Writers' Association of America 2005 electees, will be enshrined during the Induction Ceremony in Cooperstown on Sunday, July 31, beginning at 1:30 pm., as a part of Hall of Fame Weekend, at which time Peter Gammons will be honored with the 2004 J.G. Taylor Spink Award and Jerry Coleman with the 2005 Ford C. Frick Award.

The Veterans Committee featured 83 voting-eligible members. Eighty members (96%) cast paper ballots during January and February, as 458 total votes were cast, an average of 5.7 votes per ballot. Sixty votes were necessary for election and the top two recipients - Gil Hodges and Ron Santo - each missed by eight votes. The final results, in order of voting percentage (total votes, percentage):

Players' Ballot: Gil Hodges (52, 65.0%); Ron Santo (52, 65.0%); Tony Oliva (45, 56.3%); Jim Kaat (43, 53.8%); Joe Torre (36, 45.0%); Maury Wills (26, 32.5%); Vada Pinson (23, 28.8%); Luis Tiant (20, 25%); Roger Maris (19, 23.8%); Marty Marion (16, 20.0%); Ken Boyer (15, 18.8%); Joe Gordon (14, 17.5%); Carl Mays (12, 15.0%); Minnie Minoso (12, 15.0%); Dick Allen (12, 15.0%); Curt Flood (10, 12.5%); Wes Ferrell (9, 11.3%); Mickey Lolich (9, 11.3%); Don Newcombe (8, 10.0%); Sparky Lyle (7, 8.8%); Elston Howard (6, 7.5%); Bobby Bonds (4, 5.0%); Rocky Colavito (4, 5.0%); Thurman Munson (2, 2.5%); Smoky Joe Wood (2, 2.5%).

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Now the Veterans Committee can start removing some players from the Hall that clearly do not belong?

NoMyths · 03-02-2005, 07:50 PM

Ron Santo is going to kill himself one of these days.

KWhit · 03-02-2005, 07:52 PM

I can't believe Gil Hodges isn't in the HOF.

Buccaneer · 03-02-2005, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I can't believe Gil Hodges isn't in the HOF.

Why?

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 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB	R	H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG   TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 1943 19 BRO NL   1	2	0	0   0  0   0	0   1	  1   2  .000  .333  .000	0   0		   0   0
 1947 23 BRO NL  28   77	9   12   3  1   1	7   0	 14  19  .156  .286  .260   20   0		   0   3
 1948 24 BRO NL 134  481   48  120  18  5  11   70   7	 43  61  .249  .311  .376  181   4		   0  11
 1949 25 BRO NL 156  596   94  170  23  4  23  115  10	 66  64  .285  .360  .453  270  10		   4  13
 1950 26 BRO NL 153  561   98  159  26  2  32  113   6	 73  73  .283  .367  .508  285  11		   1  14
 1951 27 BRO NL 158  582  118  156  25  3  40  103   9  7  93  99  .268  .374  .527  307   1		   5  13
 1952 28 BRO NL 153  508   87  129  27  1  32  102   2  4 107  90  .254  .386  .500  254   2		   2   9
 1953 29 BRO NL 141  520  101  157  22  7  31  122   1  4  75  84  .302  .393  .550  286   0		   3   4
 1954 30 BRO NL 154  579  106  176  23  5  42  130   3  3  74  84  .304  .373  .579  335   5  19	   1  13
 1955 31 BRO NL 150  546   75  158  24  5  27  102   2  1  80  91  .289  .377  .500  273   3  10   3   3  16
 1956 32 BRO NL 153  550   86  146  29  4  32   87   3  3  76  91  .265  .354  .507  279   5   2  10   0  16
 1957 33 BRO NL 150  579   94  173  28  7  27   98   5  3  63  91  .299  .366  .511  296   4   6   6   2  11
 1958 34 LAD NL 141  475   68  123  15  1  22   64   8  2  52  87  .259  .330  .434  206   2   3   3   0  15
 1959 35 LAD NL 124  413   57  114  19  2  25   80   3  2  58  92  .276  .367  .513  212   3   3   6   3  13
 1960 36 LAD NL 101  197   22   39   8  1   8   30   0  1  26  37  .198  .291  .371   73   4   3   1   1   5
 1961 37 LAD NL 109  215   25   52   4  0   8   31   3  1  24  43  .242  .313  .372   80   2   4   1   0   5
 1962 38 NYM NL  54  127   15   32   1  0   9   17   0  0  15  27  .252  .331  .472   60   0   0   1   0   4
 1963 39 NYM NL  11   22	2	5   0  0   0	3   0  0   3   2  .227  .320  .227	5   0   0   0   0   0
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 18 Seasons		 7030	  1921	 48	 1274	 31	1137  .273  .359  .487	   56  50  31  25 165
			   2071	  1105	  295	370	   63	943					   3422

Franklinnoble · 03-02-2005, 08:01 PM

I can't believe Roger Maris isn't in the hall of fame...

Franklinnoble · 03-02-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I would think a player would have to have more than 3 good seasons.

I dunno... I suppose I just figured he had the "fame" part for his 1961 season alone.

Buccaneer · 03-02-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I can't believe Roger Maris isn't in the hall of fame...

I would think a player would have to have more than 3 good seasons.

Neon_Chaos · 03-02-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I would think a player would have to have more than 3 good seasons.

But... but... he broke the Babe's record... and he had to wear that * beside his name for over 30 years!

03-02-2005, 07:50 PM	#2
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Ron Santo is going to kill himself one of these days.

03-02-2005, 07:52 PM	#3
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I can't believe Gil Hodges isn't in the HOF.

03-02-2005, 08:01 PM	#5
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I can't believe Roger Maris isn't in the hall of fame...

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