GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

Blackadar · 05-20-2005, 08:39 AM

Trade him to Astoria...

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 08:48 AM

Oh, I left off the *really* frustrating part. This is at the beginning of free agency. So yeah, he was one week away from healing enough so I could cut him.

Blackadar · 05-20-2005, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Oh, I left off the *really* frustrating part. This is at the beginning of free agency. So yeah, he was one week away from healing enough so I could cut him.

Snicker...

Chuckle...

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

(too bad this wasn't the IHOF!)

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Snicker...

Chuckle...

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

(too bad this wasn't the IHOF!)

Blackadar · 05-20-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

You just know I'm going to get sent to the Penalty Box today!

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 09:08 AM

What's worse is that this was going to be a tough salary cap season to begin with. I won't be picking up this career until tonight or tomorrow morning, but my guess is that I'm going to have to do one of two unappealing things to field a full team this year:

1. renegotiate with this guy, giving him even more bonus money to sit the bench

or

2. trade the guy I franchised who is, you guessed it, my other starting WR from last year.

Celeval · 05-20-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

(too bad this wasn't the IHOF!)

I dunno, this guy might outperform some of Tucker's WRs in the IHOF.

Blackadar · 05-20-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

I dunno, this guy might outperform some of Tucker's WRs in the IHOF.

Good point.

digamma · 05-20-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

What's worse is that this was going to be a tough salary cap season to begin with. I won't be picking up this career until tonight or tomorrow morning, but my guess is that I'm going to have to do one of two unappealing things to field a full team this year:

1. renegotiate with this guy, giving him even more bonus money to sit the bench

or

2. trade the guy I franchised who is, you guessed it, my other starting WR from last year.

You play with wide receivers in your line-up? That's sissified football if I've ever seen it.

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

I dunno, this guy might outperform some of Tucker's WRs in the IHOF.

Which one, Poehnert (52 catches, 981 yards, 18.8 ypc) , Logan (51 catches, 842 yards), or Truett (93 catches, 1584 yards)?

Blackadar · 05-20-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Which one, Poehnert (52 catches, 981 yards, 18.8 ypc) , Logan (51 catches, 842 yards), or Truett (93 catches, 1584 yards)?

Those stats sound good until people realize those are CAREER totals.

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma

You play with wide receivers in your line-up? That's sissified football if I've ever seen it.

The game forces me to. What can ya do?

MIJB#19 · 05-20-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

The game forces me to. What can ya do?

Ping: Ronnie Kemp, Randall Dunkin, Milton Obryan, Jarrett Waugh, Eric Church and Wilson Grimaldo.

st.cronin · 05-20-2005, 10:20 AM

Did he hurt his knee riding a motorcycle?

WSUCougar · 05-20-2005, 10:31 AM

SkyDog don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures $8.82 million come wit'!

gstelmack · 05-20-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

1. renegotiate with this guy, giving him even more bonus money to sit the bench

Actually, a guy coming off an injury like that is likely to sign a pretty reasonable contract without a ton of bonus money. He'll know he's a min-sal guy. What's he asking for?

stevew · 05-20-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Actually, a guy coming off an injury like that is likely to sign a pretty reasonable contract without a ton of bonus money. He'll know he's a min-sal guy. What's he asking for?

Not unless he was a stud starter the season previous, and got hurt in the playoffs.

stevew · 05-20-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Yeah, had that happen to me in multiplayer as well. Chris Kelsay was due over 6.5 million in base salary(on a 75 million dollar cap) in the next season, and got hurt in game 3. The injury healed all but 1 week, and i was forced to carry him through the offseason. Luckily he signed a deal for a slight bit over the minsal with a slight bonus. I'm guessing you arent so lucky here.

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah, had that happen to me in multiplayer as well. Chris Kelsay was due over 6.5 million in base salary(on a 75 million dollar cap) in the next season, and got hurt in game 3. The injury healed all but 1 week, and i was forced to carry him through the offseason. Luckily he signed a deal for a slight bit over the minsal with a slight bonus. I'm guessing you arent so lucky here.

He doesn't want a TON, but it ain't minisal, either. If I recall, the bonus request is somewhere north of $3M. I'll let y'all know that one later today.

Cringer · 05-20-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

5th round pick, was the guy a boom player right away?

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

5th round pick, was the guy a boom player right away?

A gradual one, I think. It is fairly easy to identify certain positions' gradual-boom players in SP.

gstelmack · 05-20-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Not unless he was a stud starter the season previous, and got hurt in the playoffs.

My experience shows that this is true up until the ratings drop hits. Once it drops, the guy tends to have a realistic expectation of what he is worth. Unlike real NFL receivers

judicial clerk · 05-20-2005, 01:40 PM

multiply this frustration by a million billion and we know what its like to be the GM for the Browns.

SD, you could always play him and see how he produces. Maybe he will out perform his new ratings.

Ben E Lou · 05-20-2005, 05:46 PM

OK....now for solid answers to questiosn posed here....

1. Manning was rated 25/38 in the draft by my scout, with 14 volatility. Still, his combine numbers were very strong, so I grabbed him even though I really didn't need a WR at the time. I just couldn't turn him down that late in the draft. He jumped to 26/42 at the beginning of FA-2, and was 31/49 after his first training camp, so he did begin to break out early. He was 40/54 after 2007 training camp, and 43/56 after that of 2008. He got up to 58/61 by the beginning of the 2009 season, but crashed down to 29/30 after his injury.

2. I "misunderestimated" the guess of his salary request. He wants:

B: $2.41M
1: $880K
2: $2.01M
3: $2.51M
4: $3.35M
5: $3.94M

A good bit less than his contract, but way more than he's likely to be worth, too.---

stevew · 05-20-2005, 05:51 PM

Id probably just renegotiate with him, give him the 2.4 million dollar bonus, then cut his ass in training camp(or IR him and cut him the following year to split out the cap hit). Or wait until training camp to sign your rookies and then cut him there.

DaddyTorgo · 05-20-2005, 09:04 PM

this is why if we get FOF2006 we need the ability to reach injury settlements

Ben E Lou · 05-21-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Id probably just renegotiate with him, give him the 2.4 million dollar bonus, then cut his ass in training camp(or IR him and cut him the following year to split out the cap hit). Or wait until training camp to sign your rookies and then cut him there.

I can't cut him until the preseason, due to his 1-week-left injury. That's the crux of the problem. My preference would have been to cut him immediately so I could use the cap relief on a FA, but that ain't gonna happen. Oh well, I renegotiated with him, and will probably cut him at the beginning of FA1 next season.

Sharpieman · 05-21-2005, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

this is why if we get FOF2006 we need the ability to reach injury settlements

Good idea. I say that for each advantage the player gets, like the ability to reach an injury settlement, there needs to be a disadvantage to make the game harder. Like players dissing other players or the coach or the team as the whole. It could be called the TO feature.

05-20-2005, 08:48 AM	#3
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Oh, I left off the really frustrating part. This is at the beginning of free agency. So yeah, he was one week away from healing enough so I could cut him. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

05-20-2005, 09:08 AM	#7
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	What's worse is that this was going to be a tough salary cap season to begin with. I won't be picking up this career until tonight or tomorrow morning, but my guess is that I'm going to have to do one of two unappealing things to field a full team this year: 1. renegotiate with this guy, giving him even more bonus money to sit the bench or 2. trade the guy I franchised who is, you guessed it, my other starting WR from last year. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

05-20-2005, 10:31 AM	#16
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	SkyDog don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures $8.82 million come wit'! __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

05-20-2005, 05:46 PM	#25
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	OK....now for solid answers to questiosn posed here.... 1. Manning was rated 25/38 in the draft by my scout, with 14 volatility. Still, his combine numbers were very strong, so I grabbed him even though I really didn't need a WR at the time. I just couldn't turn him down that late in the draft. He jumped to 26/42 at the beginning of FA-2, and was 31/49 after his first training camp, so he did begin to break out early. He was 40/54 after 2007 training camp, and 43/56 after that of 2008. He got up to 58/61 by the beginning of the 2009 season, but crashed down to 29/30 after his injury. 2. I "misunderestimated" the guess of his salary request. He wants: B: $2.41M 1: $880K 2: $2.01M 3: $2.51M 4: $3.35M 5: $3.94M A good bit less than his contract, but way more than he's likely to be worth, too.--- __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

05-20-2005, 08:39 AM	#2
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	Trade him to Astoria...

05-20-2005, 10:20 AM	#15
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Did he hurt his knee riding a motorcycle?

05-20-2005, 01:40 PM	#24
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	multiply this frustration by a million billion and we know what its like to be the GM for the Browns. SD, you could always play him and see how he produces. Maybe he will out perform his new ratings.

05-20-2005, 05:51 PM	#26
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Id probably just renegotiate with him, give him the 2.4 million dollar bonus, then cut his ass in training camp(or IR him and cut him the following year to split out the cap hit). Or wait until training camp to sign your rookies and then cut him there.

05-20-2005, 09:04 PM	#27
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	this is why if we get FOF2006 we need the ability to reach injury settlements

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