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Coach Fired For Benching Board Members Son
Dunno how big this is nationally, but it's a hot topic here in Sac-town:
http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/4...subid=10100243 TheKCRAChannel.com Recall Petition Circulates Over Coach's Firing Students, Parents Call For Board Members' Recall ANTELOPE, Calif. -- Less than a week after a popular football coach lost his job at Antelope's Center High School, the board members who voted against him may now lose their jobs.
"I think it says to him that if you don't like somebody, you don't have to be fair to them. And that's completely wrong. That's not the way the world works," said parent Roberta Anderson. The support for coach J'Beily is also a matter of academics. At Center High School, the requirement for athletes is a 2.0 grade point average. But coach J'Beily required a 2.5 GPA. And his students met that challenge. "I'm pleased with his decision, I think it was a good decision, he sold it to the kids and the kids accepted it," said Center High School principal Bill Newton. Previous Story:
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05-24-2005, 02:49 PM | #2 |
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Is the consensus that he was fired because of the QB decision ? If so, that's fucking ridiculous.
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05-24-2005, 02:53 PM | #3 | |
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He was probably fired over changing the rules of eligibility. Now, the fact that this affected a board member's son probably had a hell of a lot of weight behind the decision. However, if he didn't actually have the authority to change the rules of eligibility and refused to repeal the changes he made then they definately have a right to fire him. |
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05-24-2005, 02:55 PM | #4 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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Only in California would a high school football coach have the name of a soccer coach.
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05-24-2005, 02:57 PM | #5 | |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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Where do you see anything that suggests that as the reason? The only mention of it is as an additional reason to support him kepping the job. There's no suggestion in what is linked that this was an issue that the Board took up.
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05-24-2005, 02:59 PM | #6 | |
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You trust the media's spin on the story that completely? You know that the board members couldn't come right out and fire him over benching the kid.. they had to have a more valid reason to not look like complete asses. Granted, it's pretty damn obvious that their motivation was because the kid was benched and so they look like asses anyways.. but I just about guarantee you that they officially fired him for changing the rules of eligibility. |
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05-24-2005, 03:01 PM | #7 |
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I believe he could've kept the GPA at 2.0 to stay on the team, but just not play kids under a 2.5 and have no harm done so long as he told them the rules.
That said, I am sure he made the rule 2.5 or else, and I frankly (as a JV High School Hockey Coach) have no problems with that. |
05-24-2005, 03:03 PM | #8 |
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The article states the the board voted against a new contract not to fire the coach. While a subtle difference, I suspect the coach's contract needs to be renewed annually. Therefore, I am not sure if the board needs a reason to not renew a contract.
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05-24-2005, 03:05 PM | #9 |
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They don't have to have any reason. They might have put it up for a vote immediately, or had some inane discussion, then voted. Wouldn't change the outcome one bit.
You're simply picking up on a potentially unrelated issue, placing it in a different context, and suggesting it could be the reason. I'd like to at least know that what, if anything, they discussed before the vote before making that suggestion. Board members don't have to give reasons for their votes.
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05-24-2005, 03:05 PM | #10 | |
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But they need a good reason not to renew it. This isn't like pro sports where coaches come and go. In High School sports a lot of kids make connections with their coach, and that has to weigh heavily on any choice made. |
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05-24-2005, 03:05 PM | #11 |
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I thought HA's dad fired Skydog from the message thread title. *shrug*
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05-24-2005, 03:19 PM | #12 | |
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I've seen votes where there's no discussion, or discussion that suggests one decision and then another is made. Depends on the board, but it's not like they would poll each voter like they're in a jury or something.
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05-24-2005, 03:21 PM | #13 | |
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Well, I mean for the fall out such as this. They make a choice such as this one, they should know that they'll be ridiculed for it, so they may as well be ready for a backlash. |
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05-24-2005, 03:26 PM | #14 |
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But doesn't Coach Carter come back to take them to the playoffs?
Oops, wrong sport.
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05-24-2005, 03:38 PM | #15 | |
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I was just speculating. Hence the "probably" |
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05-24-2005, 04:26 PM | #16 |
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Unless this is a three member board, there must have been other board members who voted against renewing the coach's contract. I wonder what their rationale was?
I read the related article, and it implies that the dispute involving the school board member's son did not occurr during this last season, but was a couple of seasons ago. The story implied that this board member had it in for ol' Digol for a couple of years and only saw his plan to ruin the coach take effect this year. This is in stark contrast to Coach Beily's parents, who clearly tired to ruin him way back when they named him. I am guessing his name comes from one of the Star Wars movies, with a lesser chance it comes from star trek or form a show on PBS. I want to know the coach's record, and his record against the school's rival. Last edited by judicial clerk : 05-24-2005 at 04:26 PM. |
05-24-2005, 08:07 PM | #17 |
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As I have learned in my school district, the board answers to nobody, doesn't have to listen to anybody, and doesn't have to follow any negotiated agreement. Nor do they have to explain their decisions. They could have hated the way he dressed, and that would be enough for them to vote for non-renewal. Of course, the legality of such a decision is open for debate, but in our board's case, they'd prefer to tie up somebody's money in a lawsuit and ruin their life rather than admit that they were wrong.
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05-24-2005, 08:27 PM | #18 | |
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There was more detail in the Sacramento Bee last week when the firing (or, I guess more accurately, failure to renew the contract) occurred. The district has a 5-member board, which is pretty typical in California. The vote was 2-2 on extending the contract, with the fifth member recusing himself because of family ties to J'Beily. Apparently, a majority was necessary to renew the contract. And yes, in the Bee article, it stated that the QB controversy dated back to three years ago, and Rodowick allegedly made a specific threat back then to get the coach fired (if I remember correctly, the words "ruin his career" were part of the alleged threat). |
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05-24-2005, 09:13 PM | #19 |
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Didnt you watch Mighty Ducks 3? Their new coach made them get a C+ average or they dont play.
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05-25-2005, 10:44 AM | #20 |
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I think this coach would probably have a legal claim against this board member and the school district. It would suck to go through that though.
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05-25-2005, 01:53 PM | #21 | |
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And he's been allowed to stay on the school board despite making a threat like that? Yeah public education system.... |
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05-25-2005, 07:27 PM | #23 |
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I'm not going to risk a banning by posting an actual parody thread, but this one begs for a "Coach Fired For Frenching Board Members Son" thread.
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More details from the Sacramento Bee today (you have to register to actually read them on the Bee site):
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/s...13798463c.html Quote:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports...13798491c.html Quote:
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