Baseball's Public Enemy #1

TazFTW · 07-05-2005, 05:27 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...d/050705&num=0

That article talks about each team's Public Enemy #1. There's also a poll for each team.

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Atlanta Braves: Kent Hrbek. That fat pig pulled Gant off first base!

I voted for Jim Leyritz, although Danny Kolb is pretty tempting.

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Arizona Diamondbacks: Tony La Russa. By a slight edge over the dude who designed their uniforms.

Had to go with the design guy.

I also find it cool that Jose Mesa is listed (in the poll) for almost every team he's played on.

ISiddiqui · 07-05-2005, 06:12 PM

It's just wrong that on the Mets poll there is no mention of "Kenny Rogers"... walking in the winning run in an NLCS, you dipshit!

Maple Leafs · 07-05-2005, 06:19 PM

Raoul Mondesi for the Blue Jays? I'd forgot he even played for us. What an odd choice.

Johnny93g · 07-05-2005, 06:25 PM

I would have said Shawn Green or Roger Clemons for us.....maybe even the 87 detroit tigers

digamma · 07-05-2005, 06:29 PM

Charlie Liebrandt or Ron Gant could have also been Braves nominees. Or Lonnie Smith.
I do love the Eric Gregg nomination though. Livan's strike zone was about four feet wide that day.

weinstein7 · 07-05-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

It's just wrong that on the Mets poll there is no mention of "Kenny Rogers"... walking in the winning run in an NLCS, you dipshit!

Funny you mention that. I was discussing the Kenny Rogers suspension with a friend the other day at a bar, and starting swearing loudly as I remembered the details of that bum. Some things you just can't let go.

cuervo72 · 07-05-2005, 07:04 PM

They got the Phillies 100% right.

SackAttack · 07-05-2005, 07:21 PM

How is Kevin Malone not on the Dodgers' poll?

VPI97 · 07-05-2005, 07:21 PM

As a Reds fan, one thing that has always stuck in my craw is Reggie Sanders in the '95 postseason. 4 for 29 with 19 strikeouts. I don't know if he's Public Enemy #1 for Cincinnati, but it's gotta be close.

Neuqua · 07-05-2005, 07:24 PM

Somewhere, Steve Bartman breathes a huge sigh of relief.

mckerney · 07-05-2005, 07:34 PM

Ozzie Guillen for the Twins? Seriously?

Sure, after he's modeled his team around what the Twins have won three straight division titles with the White Sox are ahead with a sizeable lead halfway through the season while the Twins have been playing poorly, but Ozzie Guillen the most hated by Twins fans? Twins - White Sox isn't even much of a rivalry with the exception of the games being important this year. As far as Guillen goes, he's not really a hateable figure for an opposing manager as far as I can tell. This kinda reminds me of what someone from Syracuse said about West Virginia fans during the Big East conference tournament, "We don't care about them. They make one conference final and think they're suddenly a basketball school."

Knoblauch is currently second on the poll, but I can't really hate him. Sure he demanded a trade, but I've got to say that worked out rather well. I'd say we got rid of him at the right time, and the trade is still helping the team. We had got Guzman, who played well for several years, Milton, who pitched well and as a result of trading we now have Punto and Silva, and Buchanon who was traded for Jason Bartlet. The Knoblauch deal is the trade that keeps on giving.

sterlingice · 07-05-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Somewhere, Steve Bartman breathes a huge sigh of relief.

I noticed he was leading in the polls with over 50%, tho.

SI

Maple Leafs · 07-05-2005, 07:53 PM

Sosa over Bartman is odd, but understandable. But how is Alex Gonzalez not on the Cubs list? Has anyone in history every been let off the hook so easily? If Tony Fernandez can be on the Indians' list, how is Gonzalez not there for the Cubs?

And while we're at it, no mention on the Braves poll of Ed Sprague and/or Jeff Reardon? I realize it wasn't exactly Carter/Williams, but the Braves would have won the World Series if it weren't for that at-bat.

Buccaneer · 07-05-2005, 08:04 PM

I loved that.

Chief Rum · 07-05-2005, 08:30 PM

Guillen's a total piece of crud, but Guillen over arch-nemesis 1986 anti-hero Dave Henderson? Hendu's one swing not only cost us our first visit to the Series, but destroyed a man's life (Donnie Moore).

CR

korme · 07-05-2005, 08:37 PM

Cincinnati Reds: Those keeping Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame. Eric Milton is merely a convenient whipping boy for the moment. Pete Rose's enemies will forever incur the wrath of Cincinnatians.

Your god damn right. But some other good options there- Linder, Allan, and Milton.

clintl · 07-05-2005, 08:45 PM

They got the Giants right, too. The poll voters are nuts, though, for not putting Garvey second. Garvey was right up there with Lasorda as a villain. And where's Don Drysdale in the poll?

Buccaneer · 07-05-2005, 08:52 PM

They got the Pads right even though for much of the Lasorda years, the Pads were irrelevant. Gibson or Brosius or even Tino hurts but the Pads were going up against juggernauts anyway. We hate anything from LA, esp. their arrogant fans.

CraigSca · 07-05-2005, 09:09 PM

Oh man, what'd I do to that little punkass Jeffrey Maier kid. When they had him on Today the next morning like he was some national hero...it still makes the bile well up in my throat.

ISiddiqui · 07-05-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by weinstein7

Funny you mention that. I was discussing the Kenny Rogers suspension with a friend the other day at a bar, and starting swearing loudly as I remembered the details of that bum. Some things you just can't let go.

Yep, he's forever "Fucking Kenny Rogers" to me. I remember watching that game with just about everyone in my dorm. That walk was just a killer... especially since a few days before that was the "Grand Single".

Vince · 07-05-2005, 11:02 PM

Argh. I hate Scott Fucking Spezio.

NoMyths · 07-05-2005, 11:30 PM

Got the Royals right.

Fonzie · 07-05-2005, 11:32 PM

Don Denkinger.

Fucking Don Denkinger.

NoMyths · 07-05-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzie

Don Denkinger.

Fucking Don Denkinger.

Hehehe...yes, it was a fine time to be a Royals fan.

MrBug708 · 07-05-2005, 11:39 PM

Im surprised that Bonds only has 58%. Me and Sackattack are about to round up and head to "visit" Bonds with our bats

JeeberD · 07-06-2005, 12:04 AM

Brad Ausmus as public enemy #1 for the Astros? Yeah, he can't hit worth a lick, but he works great with our pitchers and plays great D.

Personally, I would go with Dan Miceli. He cost us a World Series visit last year. We lost six games in the post season, and I think he lost four of them. The bastard...

sterlingice · 07-06-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Brad Ausmus as public enemy #1 for the Astros? Yeah, he can't hit worth a lick, but he works great with our pitchers and plays great D.

Personally, I would go with Dan Miceli. He cost us a World Series visit last year. We lost six games in the post season, and I think he lost four of them. The bastard...

That or the Atlanta Braves pitching staff, as a collective.

SI

JeeberD · 07-06-2005, 12:07 AM

No doubt...

Chief Rum · 07-06-2005, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Argh. I hate Scott Fucking Spezio.

LMAO...

...wait, wait, sorry...

HAHAHAHA...

Sorry, Vince. You would think with 13 chances you could get a pitch by the guy.

Chief Rum · 07-06-2005, 12:32 AM

dola,

Our favorite Korean pitcher is one of the featured albatrosses for the Rangers (not leading, though, alas).

Karlifornia · 07-06-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

LMAO...

...wait, wait, sorry...

HAHAHAHA...

Sorry, Vince. You would think with 13 chances you could get a pitch by the guy.

This is probably the most sickening moment of my sports watching life, along with Roger Craig's fumble in the NFC Title game against the Giants.

Dusty Baker could also be there for taking out Ortiz...and giving him the game ball when the game wasn't even over yet.

weinstein7 · 07-06-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Yep, he's forever "Fucking Kenny Rogers" to me. I remember watching that game with just about everyone in my dorm. That walk was just a killer... especially since a few days before that was the "Grand Single".

Not to mention that it ruined an absolutely incredible comeback. Pat Mahomes would be a legend if the Mets had pulled that one out. If only Bobby V had started him rather than bringing Leiter back on three days rest. .

And the real shit of it is that by wearing the Braves down so completely, we handed the Yankees another World Series.

07-05-2005, 06:12 PM	#2
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	It's just wrong that on the Mets poll there is no mention of "Kenny Rogers"... walking in the winning run in an NLCS, you dipshit! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-05-2005, 06:19 PM	#3
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07-05-2005, 06:25 PM	#4
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07-05-2005, 07:04 PM	#7
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07-05-2005, 07:21 PM	#9
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	As a Reds fan, one thing that has always stuck in my craw is Reggie Sanders in the '95 postseason. 4 for 29 with 19 strikeouts. I don't know if he's Public Enemy #1 for Cincinnati, but it's gotta be close. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining" Last edited by VPI97 : 07-05-2005 at 07:22 PM.

07-05-2005, 06:29 PM	#5
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Charlie Liebrandt or Ron Gant could have also been Braves nominees. Or Lonnie Smith. I do love the Eric Gregg nomination though. Livan's strike zone was about four feet wide that day.

07-05-2005, 07:21 PM	#8
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	How is Kevin Malone not on the Dodgers' poll?

07-05-2005, 07:24 PM	#10
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Somewhere, Steve Bartman breathes a huge sigh of relief. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

07-05-2005, 07:34 PM	#11
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Ozzie Guillen for the Twins? Seriously? Sure, after he's modeled his team around what the Twins have won three straight division titles with the White Sox are ahead with a sizeable lead halfway through the season while the Twins have been playing poorly, but Ozzie Guillen the most hated by Twins fans? Twins - White Sox isn't even much of a rivalry with the exception of the games being important this year. As far as Guillen goes, he's not really a hateable figure for an opposing manager as far as I can tell. This kinda reminds me of what someone from Syracuse said about West Virginia fans during the Big East conference tournament, "We don't care about them. They make one conference final and think they're suddenly a basketball school." Knoblauch is currently second on the poll, but I can't really hate him. Sure he demanded a trade, but I've got to say that worked out rather well. I'd say we got rid of him at the right time, and the trade is still helping the team. We had got Guzman, who played well for several years, Milton, who pitched well and as a result of trading we now have Punto and Silva, and Buchanon who was traded for Jason Bartlet. The Knoblauch deal is the trade that keeps on giving. Last edited by mckerney : 07-05-2005 at 07:40 PM.

07-05-2005, 07:53 PM	#13
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Sosa over Bartman is odd, but understandable. But how is Alex Gonzalez not on the Cubs list? Has anyone in history every been let off the hook so easily? If Tony Fernandez can be on the Indians' list, how is Gonzalez not there for the Cubs? And while we're at it, no mention on the Braves poll of Ed Sprague and/or Jeff Reardon? I realize it wasn't exactly Carter/Williams, but the Braves would have won the World Series if it weren't for that at-bat. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

07-05-2005, 08:04 PM	#14
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I loved that.

07-05-2005, 08:30 PM	#15
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Guillen's a total piece of crud, but Guillen over arch-nemesis 1986 anti-hero Dave Henderson? Hendu's one swing not only cost us our first visit to the Series, but destroyed a man's life (Donnie Moore). CR __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

07-05-2005, 08:37 PM	#16
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Cincinnati Reds: Those keeping Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame. Eric Milton is merely a convenient whipping boy for the moment. Pete Rose's enemies will forever incur the wrath of Cincinnatians. Your god damn right. But some other good options there- Linder, Allan, and Milton.

07-05-2005, 08:45 PM	#17
clintl College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Davis, CA	They got the Giants right, too. The poll voters are nuts, though, for not putting Garvey second. Garvey was right up there with Lasorda as a villain. And where's Don Drysdale in the poll?

07-05-2005, 08:52 PM	#18
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	They got the Pads right even though for much of the Lasorda years, the Pads were irrelevant. Gibson or Brosius or even Tino hurts but the Pads were going up against juggernauts anyway. We hate anything from LA, esp. their arrogant fans.

07-05-2005, 09:09 PM	#19
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Oh man, what'd I do to that little punkass Jeffrey Maier kid. When they had him on Today the next morning like he was some national hero...it still makes the bile well up in my throat. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-05-2005, 11:02 PM	#21
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Argh. I hate Scott Fucking Spezio. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

07-05-2005, 11:30 PM	#22
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Got the Royals right.

07-05-2005, 11:32 PM	#23
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Don Denkinger. Fucking Don Denkinger.

07-05-2005, 11:39 PM	#25
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Im surprised that Bonds only has 58%. Me and Sackattack are about to round up and head to "visit" Bonds with our bats

07-06-2005, 12:04 AM	#26
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Brad Ausmus as public enemy #1 for the Astros? Yeah, he can't hit worth a lick, but he works great with our pitchers and plays great D. Personally, I would go with Dan Miceli. He cost us a World Series visit last year. We lost six games in the post season, and I think he lost four of them. The bastard... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO Last edited by JeeberD : 07-06-2005 at 12:04 AM.

07-06-2005, 12:07 AM	#28
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	No doubt... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-06-2005, 12:32 AM	#30
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	dola, Our favorite Korean pitcher is one of the featured albatrosses for the Rangers (not leading, though, alas). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

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