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Old 07-06-2005, 02:16 PM   #1
mrsimperless
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Angry Billy Corgan's new album

...is a ginormous pile of steaming poo.

And I say this about the man I consider to be the greatest songwriter since John Lennon.

The best way to describe the album would be Machina B-sides. The whole thing is a mess. And with the exception of a couple songs almost every track sounds the same. Like was posted in the pumpkins reforming thread, supposedly Chamberlain plays on a few of the tracks, but I sure as hell couldn't tell with all that Elektronika racket Billy was bandying about. My ears started bleeding on track #4 when I realized just how bad it was.

I'm not completely giving up yet, but I need to let this one sit on the shelf for a couple of months before I even look at it again.
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:18 PM   #2
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sounds like my reaction to Wilco's "A Ghost is Born"
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Old 07-06-2005, 02:19 PM   #3
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That is sad to hear I too like Corgan's work..
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:43 PM   #4
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That is sad to hear I too like Corgan's work..

You know who thinks the world of Corgan's work?

Corgan.
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Old 07-06-2005, 04:47 PM   #5
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Heh. I think that goes for just about any band frontman I've ever heard of. Some cocky bastages. But usually not too funny.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:59 PM   #6
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...is a ginormous pile of steaming poo.

And I say this about the man I consider to be the greatest songwriter since John Lennon.

The best way to describe the album would be Machina B-sides. The whole thing is a mess. And with the exception of a couple songs almost every track sounds the same. Like was posted in the pumpkins reforming thread, supposedly Chamberlain plays on a few of the tracks, but I sure as hell couldn't tell with all that Elektronika racket Billy was bandying about. My ears started bleeding on track #4 when I realized just how bad it was.

I'm not completely giving up yet, but I need to let this one sit on the shelf for a couple of months before I even look at it again.

Everything you said here is dead on. The SPs have always been one of my favorites, and I even liked Zwan (except for Paz's terrible background vocals), but Corgan's solo album is boring, boring crap IMO. After listening to it, I began hoping the SPs never reform.
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Old 07-07-2005, 01:00 AM   #7
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Agreed. I didn't like the turn they took with Machina, and this album is similar but much worse than that one.
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Old 07-07-2005, 01:14 AM   #8
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He's written great songs, but he's a terrible poet.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:30 AM   #9
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Yeah...I was a big Pumpkins fan as an adolescent/teen, and I suppose you could say I still am, but I will stay away from any Billy Corgan side projects or solo work. Even if the Pumpkins reformed, I would have to hear some positive reaction before buying it. His time as a relevant artist has come again. Maybe if he had gotten into heroin...just kidding.
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:01 AM   #10
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So the "Machina" used to facilitate the final album for the Smashing Pumpkins must have been "Corgan grinders".. And now all we're left with is the remains of a once great songwriter burning on the doorstep of mediocrity?

Man, mediocrity should be pissed to find him like this. The two would have never crossed paths if this world were perfect. Cruel fate..
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