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Old 08-31-2005, 12:08 AM   #851
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Also, I now hope Sack can see how the villagers can win, I gave my plan away way back then after all.

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Old 08-31-2005, 12:10 AM   #852
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That makes me feel a little better, I guess

I was really looking forward to playing this role -- I thought it would be very interesting having a role where everyone is out to get you, so to speak. Too bad I got munched real early. What I found irritating at first, and funny after a moment, was that when I logged on that night, I had a PM from Neon_Chaos about my view for the evening. So I was like "Ok, cool. I wasn't killed." I read the thread, and...well, my post summed it up nicely:

if I recall correctly, you viewed RA that night.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:13 AM   #853
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I HATE you DUBB. I had you so pegged, great job lathum. Way not to look at the only positive outcome for the mafia.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:19 AM   #854
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btw, would the mafia be kind enough to tell me why i got whacked? i figure it was either because i made it so obvious i was only a villager and made an easy target, or i pissed people off by whining about the rules after night 1.

We thought you were a wolf because you were defending Mr. W and we thought we could get two wolves in one night.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:19 AM   #855
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And sack, I in no way meant any of the things I said about Penny personally, I was just forced into the role of playing the mafia brute. I had to act like I had the game won and nothing Penny or RPI said mattered. If I had come out soft I feared Lathum may have switched votes.

Luckily my play earlier in the game, voting wolfs, being cleared by RA, defending mafia and the turncoat all allowed me to play that way. I'm not sure any other villager could have pulled it off. I had all the evidence there that I was indeed a mafia hiding in plain sight.

And like I said, "Are you fucking happy now." was a song quote from Mudvayne which I just so happened to be listening to at the time. Pennywise was asking a question that had already been throughly answered, so I threw together some quoted posts and tried to post it, but had to add text so I added that.

If you were in my situation I'm sure you would have been able to see that bending the truth and intimidation were the only way. Had I not intimidated RPI in the last day he would have killed me, but I came out big, convinced him I had the power to kill him and he elected to play it safe.

Sometimes you don't have to play that way, but I was up against a werewolf and 2 mafia and HAD to come out strong and mean, any other way would not have gotten the job done. You said it yourself that the villagers couldn't win. Well they obviously could, just not the "right and just" way.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:19 AM   #856
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I HATE you DUBB. I had you so pegged, great job lathum. Way not to look at the only positive outcome for the mafia.

In a way, i was secretly rooting for Lathum not to kill you, you were just all over the place trying to convince him that you're the mafia.

But come to think of it, you thought dubb93 was a werewolf.

If you knew dubb93 wasn't a werewolf, and hadn't announced that you were mafia, then RPI-Fan would have been killed, you would have won the game with the night kill.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:27 AM   #857
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I've been thinking about what would have happened if penny had been killed and I had been left and about the only thing that I would have done is do a kill by kill explanation. Sack and I talked last night about how calling dubb on his lie was the wrong move but I think I'd have made the same error if I'd still been in it. Was a great game and congrats to the villagers for their win despite all of the odds against them.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:27 AM   #858
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pennywise just tried so hard...
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:57 AM   #859
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I HATE you DUBB. I had you so pegged,

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Old 08-31-2005, 01:11 AM   #860
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I assume the mafia were a little bit after wolves around the time of my lynching because they didn't know how many of us there were, or what our goals were?

As I noted previously, I figured that until the numbers got down, we were better off keeping the mafia alive. It gave alternative bad guy lynch targets, and it helped us pick off villagers.
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:11 AM   #861
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Dola, I thought it was pretty crazy that a wolf was lynched because everyone had become convinced he was mafia.

Actually, that whole debate was a train wreck.
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:20 AM   #862
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Dola, I thought it was pretty crazy that a wolf was lynched because everyone had become convinced he was mafia.

Actually, that whole debate was a train wreck.
My thinking fairly early on was that with neither penny or I raising any suspicion that the wolves were a far greater threat to killing us than the villagers. Our lack of suspicion is why we kept our voting patterns fairly different except the pile on votes. I think overall we played a fairly good game. If we had managed to kill king that night I don't think we'd have been stoppable.
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:21 AM   #863
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Dola -- BTW thanks to Sack and penny for being two great teammates. It was lots of fun playing with them.

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Old 08-31-2005, 01:22 AM   #864
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Ardent? Did I miss something?

Edit: Fixed now.
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:24 AM   #865
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Ardent? Did I miss something?
Late night mistake. Fixed now.
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Old 08-31-2005, 04:07 AM   #866
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I CANT BELIEVE YOU LET LATHUM LIVED AFTER HE GOT ME KILLED....i hate you all...
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Old 08-31-2005, 06:26 AM   #867
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Heh. Just hopped into this thread to see how it was going...and Blade was killed. Oh how fitting.

(Hi Blade.)

i swear one day i will have my revenge!!!!!
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Old 08-31-2005, 06:32 AM   #868
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You guys gotta admit the play against Blade was pretty brilliant

Against anyone else yes, bt god damn is it maddening for someone to use a fake role reveal on me, the master of the fake role reveal...stupid lathum...and no one would listen to me, all just blindly trusted you
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:23 AM   #869
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I thought Lathum was lying, actually even thought he may be the turncoat. I just couldn't believe 3 hits on 3 days.

Dubb totally had me sold on Penny though. Mostly because of Penny's posts, which seemed a little contrived to me.
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:39 AM   #870
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Did you ever know that you're my hero...
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:40 AM   #871
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Ardent? Did I miss something?

Edit: Fixed now.


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Old 08-31-2005, 09:26 AM   #872
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I have no idea what's going on, but go villagers!
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:31 AM   #873
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Oh. I see the game is over. Go villagers!
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:27 PM   #874
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I thought Lathum was lying, actually even thought he may be the turncoat. I just couldn't believe 3 hits on 3 days.

Dubb totally had me sold on Penny though. Mostly because of Penny's posts, which seemed a little contrived to me.

Contrived until you realized everything I said WAS TRUE . I couldn't explain why Dubb would do what he did if he was a villager, but now it all makes sense. Dubb did a great job defending himself against me, and I think I got alittle carried away because once I was on the chopping block I knew I had to do whatever it took to get Lathum to believe me.

I was getting so frustrated with Dubb and Lathum yesterday. If you could have seen me reacting to your posts you would have been laughing your butts off. I was screaming at my computer screen! My coworkers were getting a real kick out of it.

I'm going to chaulk up my nOOb play at the end to this being my first game and my lack of experience. I'll definately know better the next time I play
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:30 PM   #875
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No doubt, different people argue in different ways . Next time I won't(hopefully) make that mistake with you. The more you play with certain people the less difficult it is to read them.
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