Werewolf XIX: Return to the Forest - Night(4)

[Poli]

So I take it the 10:30 deadline is EST?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

True, but I didn't see anyone pushing a shift to Barkeep. Actually, I think Barkeep is okay, but not sure. I have a stronger feeling that Dacman and Ardent are on the up and up.

I'm very suspicious about RA and Blade, you are looking suspicious as well. Pennywise has not given us much to go on and has missed 2 votes, so I think he is a problem as well.

Since im beginning to think RA is good, you just hit #2 behind barkeep for wolf...barkeep is my big target, and the person supporting him and attacking me goes up the lsit too

[RPI-Fan]

After a morning where nobody spoke a word, you all gather together and decide that dacman must be hanged! You tie him up, eagerly awaiting him to change form into a werewolf. But he never does. Upon searching his belongings, you find a crystal ball. Suddenly, you realize, dacman was the Seer!

raiders VOTE ARDENT
ardent VOTE RAIDERS
raiders UNVOTE ARDENT
gram VOTE RAIDERS
ardent UNVOTE RAIDERS
blade VOTE BARKEEP
dubb VOTE PENNY
raiders VOTE PENNY
dacman VOTE RAIDERS
barkeep VOTE DACMAN
raiders UNVOTE PENNY
raiders VOTE DACMAN
ardent VOTE DACMAN
schmidty VOTE DACMAN
taztfw VOTE DACMAN
wvufan VOTE BARKEEP
mcsweeny VOTE BARKEEP
barkeep UNVOTE DACMAN
barkeep VOTE RAIDERS

raiders: gram, dacman, barkeep
barkeep: blade, wvufan, mcsweeny
penny: dubb
dacman: raiders, ardent, schmidty, taztfw


Playerlist

1) st.cronin: Lynched, Day(1), Regular Villager
2) Raiders Army
3) dacman: Lynched, Day(3), Seer
4) pennywisesb
5) Schmidty
6) Blade6119
7) McSweeny
8) ardent enthusiast
9) SnDvls: Killed, Night(2)
10) Grammaticus
11) TazTFW
12) saldana: Lynched, Day(2), Werewolf
13) Barkeep49
14) kingfc22: Killed, Night(1)
15) WVUFAN
16) dubb93


It is now Night(3). Night actions are due by 10:30am EST on Thursday, Dec. 22nd.

[Grammaticus]

Blade is looking like he may be inline with the wolves. Here are some of my suspicions:

* He did not vote on day one

*He was sticking up for Saldana early on in the game, see post 218

* After the lynching of Saldana, blade says he is happy he did not switch his vote to RA, he kept it on McSweeny (why??)

*Blade chats it up after the lynching is exposed, giving the wolves more to go on prior to their night kill

*Blade pushes seer/Witness, which puts this out in the for front, squelching any chance that Ardent had in making this topic confusing to the wolves. In fact, no one really knows who the seer or witness is except those two villagers.

*Blade suggests the wolves may sacrifice one of their own in order to cover the rest. Does not make sense. Wolves have to protect their number and cannot afford to sacrifice anything.

*Blade suggests a tie in the voting would give the wolves another day without a lynching. Is that true? Or does the first person that got a vote, get lynched?

*Blade suggests that Sun is in the clear with no real reason as to why, just before the sun is killed. A wolf would know sun is going down and that is planted to cover Blade later. He can say, see he was clear as he was killed.

*Blade says he is suspicious of Barkeep for switching to Saldana late in the game, but it was actually after I revealed Saldana as a wolf.

[Blade6119]

holy fucking crap you guys are idiots.....thank you kindly for most likely costing us the game. Good game wolves *looks at barkeep*

[Poli]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

dacman was the Seer!

You have GOT to be kidding me. Oh dear.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Since im beginning to think RA is good, you just hit #2 behind barkeep for wolf...barkeep is my big target, and the person supporting him and attacking me goes up the lsit too

You thinking RA is looking good, is suspicious in itself. If you think I am a wolf you must think I outed Saldana for what reason?..........

[Barkeep49]

Well damn. Here I was thinking that Grammaticus was playing a smart game and all claiming to be the witness while being the seer. Guess that blow that theory out the window.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Suddenly, you realize, dacman was the Seer!

dacman VOTE RAIDERS

raiders: gram, dacman, barkeep

This is going to be one easy vote now.

[Poli]

I personally can't wait until the day actions start.

[Poli]

Did I just see Bucc in here?

[Poli]

By the way, my roommate is about to hit the hay. I have to work tomorrow with no net access from 2-10 pm CST. After that, I'll be hitting the hay before driving back home to Missouri again. I'll be leaving for home Friday morning most likely, which means I probably won't be around until sometime that afternoon.

To recap:

I'll be online tomorrow morning until maybe 1pm CST. I probably won't be online again until after that.

Just a FYI for those that view inactivity as a possibility for being a wolf.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Did I just see Bucc in here?

Nope.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Nope.

Duly noted.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

You thinking RA is looking good, is suspicious in itself. If you think I am a wolf you must think I outed Saldana for what reason?..........

I think barkeep is a wolf...both RA and raiders are in this so called posse that i still know nothing about, yet barkeep pushed for raiders yesterday until pushing for THE BLOODY SEER TODAY....anyone that supports barkeep is on my shit list...and since dacman died without ever telling us if he hit a wolf we cant be sure who he viewed or if he viewed right. If he had hit a wolf i would think he would be far more active or push a lot harder to get one killed.

Until i know more about this posse, and maybe even after i do barkeep is a wolf in my mind and anyone who supports him raises flags in my mind


NOTE, sorry for cursing...im just angry about losing the seer when i was 99% sure he was good

[Grammaticus]

Look at Blades post 443 and 445. He knows dacman is not a wolf and is getting wacked, so he is setting up Barkeep. The he tries to push Barkeep in post 445. He doesn't want anyone to switch to RA.

[Poli]

Here's my pecking order while I'm still online (I'm surprised I haven't been kicked out of his room yet):

1. Raiders Army, this has to be obvious at this point. Additionally, we should look at who dacman has been voting in the past. We need some potential clues he may have left us.

2a. Barkeep49. His peel off of Dacman could have potentially been a wolf play. Though his request to extend the deadline certainly helps. He probably should be 2b or 3 at least.

2b. Blade6119. At this point, he's still alive. Is he wolf bait or a wolf? I know when I was a wolf and he was the umm...turncoat(?) we kept him alive so the villagers could lynch him. I am leary of lynching him for this reason.

Honestly, I don't have much more input than that.

[Blade6119]

If you want to kill me, do it.....i think weve all but lost this game. You do what you gotta do, but im a villager. Im so let down with this team right now for the next 20 minutes or so ill support anything you say. Im not a wolf, but right now i just dont care.

[Blade6119]

dola, ill ask right now to be killed tonight by the wolves. If you all think im a wolf id rather die by wolves then by my stupid teamates

[Poli]

I just reviewed his posts. He didn't post much, unfortunately. He did say that he felt either myself or Raiders Army was a wolf, but wasn't 100% sure. He did end up voting RA.

That's about all I got out of it, honestly.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

dola, ill ask right now to be killed tonight by the wolves. If you all think im a wolf id rather die by wolves then by my stupid teamates

Easy dude. Easy.

[Poli]

Blade, I'm sure RA or myself make much better targets right now. I wouldn't worry about you coming under scrutiny.

My vote is a stone cold lock for RA when I can lynch vote.

[Poli]

And with that, I'm out. See you guys in the morning.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Blade is looking like he may be inline with the wolves. Here are some of my suspicions:

* He did not vote on day one

I said id be in vegas, but i cant hold that against you. Though if your saying im trying to stay under the radar by not voting then HA...im the most vocal person in this game.

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

*He was sticking up for Saldana early on in the game, see post 218

I did, i backed him....but i never voted with him. i voted for someone we still dont know the role of. I supported him in words, and could have tied it and killed the other guy on tie breaker if i wished to that night...i didnt

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

* After the lynching of Saldana, blade says he is happy he did not switch his vote to RA, he kept it on McSweeny (why??)

I still think mcsweeney is very odd, and has only been talkative when i called him out. Why vote for RA, who to this day we dont know about, over another guy we dont know about? If i did switch it to RA saldana would be alive...think about that ass

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

*Blade chats it up after the lynching is exposed, giving the wolves more to go on prior to their night kill

The only talking helping the wolves is all the non-talking going on...the less we talk the less we know....the less we know the easier they win

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

*Blade pushes seer/Witness, which puts this out in the for front, squelching any chance that Ardent had in making this topic confusing to the wolves. In fact, no one really knows who the seer or witness is except those two villagers.

Kinda a stupid point now that dacman is dead....and i pushed for sun, a proven villager, to not talk about them...but i can see where your going with that point.

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

*Blade suggests the wolves may sacrifice one of their own in order to cover the rest. Does not make sense. Wolves have to protect their number and cannot afford to sacrifice anything.

If i was a wolf, and there were 2-3 of us left, i would honestly consider sacrificing one to clear the other. The guy who comes out and overkill pushes to kill a wolf becomes a good guy in everyones eyes. Its called triage, taking casualties for the greater good.

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

*Blade suggests a tie in the voting would give the wolves another day without a lynching. Is that true? Or does the first person that got a vote, get lynched?

I still dont know the tiebreaker, so hold that against me if you will.

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

*Blade suggests that Sun is in the clear with no real reason as to why, just before the sun is killed. A wolf would know sun is going down and that is planted to cover Blade later. He can say, see he was clear as he was killed.

SALDANA ARGUED WITH SUN OVER DUBB....thats all i needed...if you read my posts on that matter i show it.

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

*Blade says he is suspicious of Barkeep for switching to Saldana late in the game, but it was actually after I revealed Saldana as a wolf.

Anyone who switches to a wolf late is suspicious. If im a wolf, and i know for sure another wolf is going down i want to have a vote on him as it makes me look good.


ANYTHING ELSE?

[Blade6119]

Anyone? Im still voting for barkeep tomorrow, and since seer is dead i doubt anything can sway me

[Blade6119]

echo

Come on, come talk everyone

[dacman]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

And with that, I'm out. See you guys in the morning.

Actually, with you saying that you think RA is a wolf, you might not see us in the morning. That is, if he really IS a wolf. Although, killing you might be too obvious.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

echo

Come on, come talk everyone

Dude, begging for discussion makes you look like a desperate wolf. I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying it makes you look bad.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Dude, begging for discussion makes you look like a desperate wolf. I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying it makes you look bad.

I think the more discussion we have the better off the team is. If you disagree ill shut up all day tomorrow except for posting my vote if i survive tonight. I dont care at this point in the game, as no matter what i do to help the team win the team goes the other way.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

If you disagree ill shut up all day tomorrow except for posting my vote if i survive tonight. I dont care at this point in the game, as no matter what i do to help the team win the team goes the other way.

So you're saying you'll do whatever I tell you to do? Ok, I want you to stop being so whiney.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

So you're saying you'll do whatever I tell you to do? Ok, I want you to stop being so whiney.

Done, this is my final comment until my vote for barkeep when the day starts, and that will be my final comment until the deadline. Hope you guys get one, as lets see if the game is better if i do what everyone else does...nothing

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Done, this is my final comment until my vote for barkeep when the day starts, and that will be my final comment until the deadline. Hope you guys get one, as lets see if the game is better if i do what everyone else does...nothing

Dude, you're totally being a drama queen, no offense.


(I see the irony here, as I have been known for drama on occasion )

[McSweeny]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Dude, you're totally being a drama queen, no offense.


(I see the irony here, as I have been known for drama on occasion )

it's that whole surviving past day 1 stuff. i think it's starting to get to him

[pennywisesb]

Damnit, that sucks we lost the seer. Sorry I couldn't be around today, I had to work late and then did some Christmas shopping. Tomorrow I should be around most of the day though. I think I'm leaning towards RA for my next vote, because not only has he voted for me in the past, he was also the person Dacman was voting for. I'm obviously open for changes, because we can't be certain Dacman used his seer role on him, but I'd have to think that he did.

[Raiders Army]

Well.....shiznit.

I know I will definitely survive the night since I am probably the next to put my head in a noose. I can tell you that without a doubt, I am a villager. I don't think that there's anything that I can do that would sway your opinion whether I'm a good guy or a bad guy at this point. Hell, at this point if I were someone else, I'd think I was a bad guy for sure.

I thought that Barkeep was a wolf initially, but then I wasn't so sure since he was so vocal. I think that either Blade is a wolf or Barkeep and Grammaticus are wolves. Here are the scenarios I see:

1. I thought Grammaticus was on the level, but his comments after the lynching appear to be...strange. I can understand that if he had a "one-time" view ability, he would want to present himself as the seer to protect the seer, but he didn't explain that at all yet. Now, with the real seer gone, what was his role? Obviously he doesn't feel as if he needs to defend himself, and goes on the attack against Blade. It also seems as if Grammaticus and Barkeep are working together.

2. Then again, Blade could be using me for cover. When I get lynched and it is revealed that I'm a villager, he will look pretty good. That would also be a good play for a wolf.

The only thing I ask of you after I die is that you look at the above scenarios. Thanx.

[Poli]

I can't believe we're still on the night actions. Lazy wolves.

[RPI-Fan]

Again, you hear the horrifying screams in the middle of the night. When you wake up at the break of dawn, you realize that pennywisesb is missing. pennywisesb has been eaten by the wolves.

Playerlist

1) st.cronin: Lynched, Day(1), Regular Villager
2) Raiders Army
3) dacman: Lynched, Day(3), Seer
4) pennywisesb: Killed, Night(3)
5) Schmidty
6) Blade6119
7) McSweeny
8) ardent enthusiast
9) SnDvls: Killed, Night(2)
10) Grammaticus
11) TazTFW
12) saldana: Lynched, Day(2), Werewolf
13) Barkeep49
14) kingfc22: Killed, Night(1)
15) WVUFAN
16) dubb93


It is now Day(4). Lynch Votes are due by 10:00am EST on Friday, Dec. 23rd.

[Grammaticus]

I am again going to start the day with my vote as

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

I’ve laid it out in prior posts. I also feel Dubbs post for RA on day two says something. Dub used the word “role” out of context to id RA and in parenthesis. I think he was telling us that he (Dubb) had a role and was identifying RA as a wolf. Hindsight is 20/20, but all the same, it is one of the reasons why I felt good about Dubb before he was lynched.

[Barkeep49]

By dubb do you be dacman?

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

By dubb do you be dacman?

Yes, that was a miss type on my post, Oops

[Grammaticus]

RPI, for game integrity, should I edit the above post or repost with Dacman?

[pennywisesb]

Good luck Villagers! Damn wolves.....

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

RPI, for game integrity, should I edit the above post or repost with Dacman?

I've never had a problem with people editing posts, unless it involves votes... but if it were me, I'd quote the original and explain the error.

[Poli]

Vote Raiders Army.


I see no other reason why not. Dacman voted for him. I am now. It's a stone cold lock. I'm not changing my vote.

[st.cronin]

still watching from the grave, and I think I'm almost starting to get the hang of this game...

[saldana]

.........

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by saldana

.........

......

I've never got to do that before...

[Raiders Army]

Yep. Grammaticus falls on my list of people to keep an eye on. Remember that after I'm hung and revealed as a villager.

[Raiders Army]

VOTE GRAMMATICUS

Just think there's something fishy there and also good ploy to gain trust.