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Old 09-05-2009, 10:56 PM   #451
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A win is a win but they didn't look good at all. Defense is really shakey.

Horrible calls messed up the scoring too though. Don't forget.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:58 PM   #452
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I'd rather Mexico win...
That way we're all 'even' going into the cup, and it'll probably help us as far as which group we end up in.
We want to seem weaker than we really are, so we get team to underestimate us... Right?

Or would we rather be overestimated...?
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:59 PM   #453
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I wouldn't mind seeing Argentina kill Mexico sometime in the near future.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:02 PM   #454
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I wouldn't mind seeing Argentina kill Mexico sometime in the near future.

Iunno why, but I hate Argentina... For no good reason too...
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:17 PM   #455
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Well... Maybe not hate... but certainly don't like.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:18 PM   #456
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I would like to see Mexico not make the World Cup. Think their style of play is dirty and their fans are trash.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:19 PM   #457
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A Mexico - Argentina playoff would be must-see TV.

Mexico take a 2-0 lead on the road, they're on a good run of late after a poor start to the hexagonal.

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Old 09-05-2009, 11:22 PM   #458
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A Mexico - Argentina playoff would be must-see TV.

Agreed.
I'd like to see that.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:25 PM   #459
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Why is everyone so certain about the US chances of making the World Cup? With a Mexico win, it seems like everything is bunched together. U.S. still has a tough schedule remaining.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:27 PM   #460
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Why is everyone so certain about the US chances of making the World Cup? With a Mexico win, it seems like everything is bunched together. U.S. still has a tough schedule remaining.

With a Mexico win, US still makes it (assuming they play well enough).
Rather than us possibly being a no.3 or 4... We're no 2.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:36 PM   #461
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But only by 1 point. Still seems shaky considering their troubles on the road.
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:11 AM   #462
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Why is everyone so certain about the US chances of making the World Cup? With a Mexico win, it seems like everything is bunched together. U.S. still has a tough schedule remaining.

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Team v • d • e Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Honduras 7 4 1 2 14 7 +7 13 United States 7 4 1 2 13 9 +4 13 Mexico 7 4 0 3 11 9 +2 12 Costa Rica 7 4 0 3 9 12 −3 12 El Salvador 7 1 2 4 7 10 −3 5 Trinidad and To7 1 2 4 8 15 −7 5
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Sept. 9 Trinidad & Tobago vs. United States Sept. 9 El Salvador vs. Costa Rica Sept. 9 Mexico vs. Honduras Oct. 10 Honduras vs. United States Oct. 10 Mexico vs. El Salvador Oct. 10 Costa Rica vs. Trinidad & Tobago Oct. 14 El Salvador vs. Honduras Oct. 14 Trinidad & Tobago vs. Mexico Oct. 14 United States vs. Costa Rica

I'm not certain but with four teams fighting for 3.5 spots, the chances are pretty good. Even though the US probably has the toughest remaining schedule of the four I still think they're ~90% likely to qualify. Costa Rica has gotten waxed two times in a row after getting off to such a great start. They should win in Trinidad & Tobago (weakest of the six) and at home to Costa Rica. Even if they draw one of those and lose in Honduras the other teams would have to win every home game and every game against T&T/El Salvador home or away to put the US in fourth. The US also has the second best goal differential of the top four teams.

If the US finishes fourth (unlikely imo) I still think they'd have a roughly 50-50 chance against teams like Ecuador/Colombia/Uruguay/Venezuela. Argentina are still in fourth two points ahead of the playoff spot but if they drop further then that would be big trouble, especially if they've replaced Maradona with a decent manager by then.

edit: Some potentially good news at the troublesome left back position -

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At halftime, U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati revealed that Mexican-American left back Edgar Castillo received clearance from FIFA yesterday to play for the United States. As of now, Castillo appears to be the U.S.'s best option at left back.

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Old 09-06-2009, 03:16 PM   #463
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poor kaka kaladze...he scored 2 own goals in the Italy v. Georgia game yesterday
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:29 PM   #464
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I'm rooting for Slovakia to hold ground and not choke the huge lead they have. Together with a couple of other teams, they can qualify next Wednesday:
Denmark with a win + Hungary loss + Sweden loss/draw
Slovakia with a win (vs Northern Ireland) + Slovenia-Poland draw
Spain with a win + Bosnia loss/draw OR with a draw + Bosnia loss
England with a win (vs Croatia) OR a draw (vs Croatia) + Ukraine draw/loss
Serbia with a win (vs France)
Chile with a win OR draw + Colombia loss/draw + Ecuador loss/draw
Paraguay with a win OR draw + Colombia loss/draw + Ecuador loss/draw

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South Africa, Australia, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Netherlands

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Old 09-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #465
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edit: Some potentially good news at the troublesome left back position -
Oh, why couldn't he have received clearance 2 weeks ago? Bradley had no other options, but Bornstein looked terrible out there. Still, a W's a W.

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Old 09-07-2009, 02:37 AM   #466
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Rooney is a diver.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:18 AM   #467
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I disagree if your referencing the arsenal call. While I dont think rooney was going to do anything with the ball after the tackle, as he kicked it just about into the upper deck, the goalie did come out and make contact with the player that brought him down while completely missing the ball...thats pretty much textbook definition of a penalty in my mind, and about the furthest thing from diving.

For reference, from the same game, this is what diving looks like:

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Old 09-07-2009, 11:09 PM   #468
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Kek.

See YouTube links:

YouTube - Wayne Rooney's Dive + Frank Lampard's Goal 1-0 England Vs Slovenia 05.09.09 HQ
YouTube - Wayne Rooney dive
YouTube - Wayne Rooney "doesn't dive" www.inthestands.co.uk

I'm always astonished why people think he's an honest player. Maybe it's just coz he looks like a brute .. but he's a diver. Please see the first link for the latest incident against Slovenia.

Edit: Also, I'm appalled he has the cheek to come out to say he never dives when he has before. And how people accept his words hook line and sinker.

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Old 09-07-2009, 11:10 PM   #469
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I disagree if your referencing the arsenal call. While I dont think rooney was going to do anything with the ball after the tackle, as he kicked it just about into the upper deck, the goalie did come out and make contact with the player that brought him down while completely missing the ball...thats pretty much textbook definition of a penalty in my mind, and about the furthest thing from diving.


Also, if you actually watch the replay, you can see he is already falling before Almunia touches him. He was playing for the penalty. A clearcut dive? Maybe not. But honest? Please.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:21 PM   #470
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I'm beginning to believe that Platini has told the French clubs to do what ever they can to end the dominance of the EPL teams...

a third French team is trying to force a ban on an EPL team:

BBC SPORT | Football | My Club | M | Man City | Man City dismiss 'poaching' claim
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:49 PM   #471
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Le Harve's president Jean-Pierre Louvel says Pogba's parents were paid off:

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"I don't see why the Pogba case should not set a legal precedent. There was an agreement that no-one should poach young players. French clubs respect that rule but English clubs do not respect anything.

"FIFA does not allow contracts longer than three years before a player has reached 18. We respect that in France, in seems that in England they don't abide by that rule. "

Man Utd released a statement yesterday threatening action if Le Harve continue to level accusations at the club:

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"Manchester United have today written to Le Havre AC to put it on notice that action will be taken if such allegations are repeated in relation to the transfer of Paul Pogba."

"Manchester United is entirely satisfied that the transfer of Paul Pogba has been conducted in accordance with the regulations set down by the world governing body, FIFA," the statement added.

"Manchester United is ready to defend any claim brought against it by Le Havre at FIFA.

"It is to be noted that all contractual documentation relating to the player's registration with the club has already been fully ratified by the Football Association and the Premier League."

And Man Utd chief executive David Gill had more to say about the matter today:

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"We have done everything by the book, we are confident in that, they can take whatever action, we won't be insulted by Le Havre.

"It's an insult by Le Havre to suggest that Manchester United and employees of Manchester United have paid the parents and bought the player's parents a house.

"We will not accept the good name of Manchester United being trawled around Websites and the press saying we have done these things we are not allowed to do.

"If they want to take action, they can take action, we will defend our case in the football bodies, we are very comfortable about doing that."

Hopefully Man Utd's lawyers are slick enough that the club escapes punishment.

Now Liverpool have also been accused of child theft, this time by another English club (Crewe) so who knows if UEFA will come down as hard on it.

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Liverpool were linked with Clayton in February 2008 and were willing to pay a six-figure sum to take him to Anfield.

Liverpool told BBC Sport they had no comment to make.

Crewe rejected Liverpool's initial approach for Clayton, but Gradi says the teenager now wants to leave the League Two outfit.

He told the Daily Express: "Max has come in and told us that he wants to leave right now to join a big club.

"You worry financially for the clubs where the players are stolen from.

"What sort of compensation are we going to get for all the work that has gone into developing him? Any compensation is insignificant for the effort that gone in.

"It's simple, the big clubs are stealing other people's players."

Gradi revealed the news in the wake of the decision to ban Chelsea from signing any players until January 2011.

The 68-year-old, who managed Crewe between 1983 and 2007, brought players such as David Platt, Danny Murphy, Seth Johnson, Robbie Savage and Dean Ashton through the ranks at the Alexandra Stadium during his time in charge.

Gradi has given his support to Fifa's decision to place a transfer embargo on Chelsea, after they were found guilty of inducing 18-year-old French midfielder Gael Kakuta to break his contract with Lens in 2007.

Chelsea have already confirmed that they will launch the "strongest possible appeal" to the ruling.

Manchester United could also face an investigation after it emerged that another French club, Le Havre, are going to ask Fifa to look into Paul Pogba's move to Old Trafford in August.

"I'm delighted with what has happened with Chelsea," added Gradi. "I would hope all the big clubs are frightened to death. There is no excuse for breaking the rules.

"We lost a 12-year-old to Everton. He was our best 12-year-old. The lure is that the bigger clubs pay big expenses.

"This kid will be getting several hundred pounds a week in expenses. We pay expenses but nothing like that. It's more a case of giving out £20 if someone can pick a kid up en-route.

"At least Fifa have given the smaller clubs hope."

The bigger English teams wouldn't be doing this as much if the FA got rid of their stupid 90-minute rule that prevents teams from recruiting kids from their own country.

Making the laws the same for every UEFA/FIFA country would also help but that's probably difficult.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:57 PM   #472
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Wow, England took Croatia to the woodshed today.

Scotland hanging on for dear life (they need help now, if they're going to make it)..

Ireland are pretty much in the playoff.
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:15 PM   #473
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US-T&T @ 7:00 on ESPN Classic. US pretty much need 2 wins in their final 3, or a win tonight and 2 draws. Either way, can't play for the draw tonight.

Bornstein's starting at LB again over Marshall at CB and Bocanegra at LB, but with Trinidad's speed it's probably the right call.

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Old 09-09-2009, 06:47 PM   #474
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Scotland hanging on for dear life (they need help now, if they're going to make it)..

Scotland are out, Norway finished second in our group. Scotland did not deserve to go through, we just can't score goals or beat the teams we are supposed to beat.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:01 PM   #475
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US-T&T @ 7:00 on ESPN Classic. US pretty much need 2 wins in their final 3, or a win tonight and 2 draws. Either way, can't play for the draw tonight.

Bornstein's starting at LB again over Marshall at CB and Bocanegra at LB, but with Trinidad's speed it's probably the right call.

----------------Davies--------Altidore-----------
Donovan--------------------------------Dempsey
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Bornstein----Bocanegra---Onyewu----Spector
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Thanks for the reminder! Always forget about the midweek games.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:10 PM   #476
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:32 PM   #477
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so many games to watch over the next couple days as they're all replayed:

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Old 09-09-2009, 07:44 PM   #478
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:52 PM   #479
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yeah...lazy fucks.

and stupid careless-dempsey...can we banish careless-dempsey and just get good-dempsey? because otherwise i'm not sure he's worth having in there
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:52 PM   #480
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:07 PM   #482
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:21 PM   #483
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That first half was fucking terrible. Wake up ffs.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:27 PM   #484
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2nd half hasn't been much fucking better. how bout bradley makes a fucking sub now to wake these dudes up. someone hungry - feilheiber or holden or something
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:27 PM   #485
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I didn't see who is on the bench but either Torres or Holden on for Dempsey please.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:27 PM   #486
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is it 9000 degrees in TnT? Is that why everyone's fucking WALKING!?!?!??!!?
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:28 PM   #487
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I'm so fucking over Dempsey. I want him dropped. His moments of goodness don't make up for his shitty inconsistency.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:30 PM   #489
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Why does Bradley play his kid as a holding midfielder when he scored all those goals in the Eredivisie playing further up the field? Why must he play two defensive-minded midfielders in the middle against T&T and the other non-Mexico/Honduras/Costa Rica CONCACAF teams?
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:32 PM   #490
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holden and feilheiber...thank you bradley! now get them in there!
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:34 PM   #491
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:34 PM   #492
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We score on what feels like our first decent move, thank you Ricardo Clark.

Damn that was even better on the replay.

Dempsey stays on, Fielhaber on for Altidore.

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Old 09-09-2009, 08:35 PM   #493
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damnit...where's Holden!?!?!?!
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:36 PM   #494
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now we're going to push dempsey up and leave him on instead of bringing on holden?

why not push landycakes up top next to davies and bring off dempsey and bring on holden?
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Argentina are still losing to Paraguay. There's a big chance the world's two best players won't be at the World Cup.

Another moronic giveaway by Dempsey.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:39 PM   #496
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dempsey's sucky turnovers are going to cost us before this game is over.

bradley needs to get his head screwed on straight. if he starts screwing around and being "cute" and turns it over then use a sub and yank his ass out. keep doing it till he gets the fucking message
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:46 PM   #497
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:50 PM   #498
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Another moronic giveaway by Dempsey.

Hey another one of those with practically the whole team forward.

Nice shot by Dempsey just after though. He's still dangerous even when he's lousy.

The corner kicks, both short and long, have been awful tonight.
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Final sub made, Holden on for Dempsey.
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holden for dempsey

woulda rather seen that a few minutes ago though - he's very good at holding the ball and dealing with pressure. will help to kill it off
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