Werewolf XCVI: The Dark One and The Order of Righteousness (GAME OVER EVIL WINS) - Page 10

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

So should we assume if nothing comes out about Pass that he has been scanned good? .

I don't think we assume that at all.

We need to hear from Schmidty on whether or not the 20% hit.

saldana · 06-09-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

i just hit 77 last night and got cold weather flying and my explorer title while riding on my magic carpet immediately .. ok back to reading the thread

holy crap, the regular flying mount is slower than dogshit...i need 6K gold in a hurry!!!!!

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 11:34 AM

So until we hear from Schmidty we are at day 1 all over again, I see no reason to not jail BK, dangerous as a wolf but if Schmidty can clear him he would be a great King.

DaddyTorgo · 06-09-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

holy crap, the regular flying mount is slower than dogshit...i need 6K gold in a hurry!!!!!

wtf are you people babbling about?

dubb93 · 06-09-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

holy crap, the regular flying mount is slower than dogshit...i need 6K gold in a hurry!!!!!

Agree. The regular flying mount is a waste of time.

saldana · 06-09-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

wtf are you people babbling about?

our other addiction besides WW...ironically, only one letter different, WoW. (world of warcraft)

saldana · 06-09-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Agree. The regular flying mount is a waste of time.

epic riding is faster, but for mining, the flyer is gonna be good...tamed a new pet last night too...got myself a fire-breathing dragonhawk!

saldana · 06-09-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

So until we hear from Schmidty we are at day 1 all over again, I see no reason to not jail BK, dangerous as a wolf but if Schmidty can clear him he would be a great King.

do you think BK would have taken out Hoops on N1? that is not a play i see him making, unless it was because he assumed hoops would be the scan....even so, no way the seer is going to reveal that he cleared hoops this early, so killing him now wouldnt really be needed.

DaddyTorgo · 06-09-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

do you think BK would have taken out Hoops on N1? that is not a play i see him making, unless it was because he assumed hoops would be the scan....even so, no way the seer is going to reveal that he cleared hoops this early, so killing him now wouldnt really be needed.

it's dangerous to go too far down the path of assuming that any one wolf has total control over wolf-actions though - oftentimes i've been in discussions where someone will push for one person and then somebody else will sway them, or they will switch it up just to keep us guessing.

i think using "who was killed" as a way to try to figure out who's a wolf, particularly this early in the game, but largely for the entirety of the game, isn't much better than picking at random.

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think we need to wait for Schmidty until we make any assesments.

Also, do we want to keep Schmidty in power another day? I don't see any reason not to.

isnt he king until hes dead? we dont have to re elect him...

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 11:54 AM

unless you are suggesting lynching Schmidty?

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

do you think BK would have taken out Hoops on N1? that is not a play i see him making, unless it was because he assumed hoops would be the scan....even so, no way the seer is going to reveal that he cleared hoops this early, so killing him now wouldnt really be needed.

I have no idea, maybe the wolves thought they saw something in Hoops posts.

All I know is if we can clear BK without a see reveal I think thats a tremendously helpful thing for us because we can make him King.

I don't want to jail BK because I think it is any more likely he is a bad guy, I want to jail him in the hopes the 20% hits and we can clear him.

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

isnt he king until hes dead? we dont have to re elect him...

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

unless you are suggesting lynching Schmidty?

We would need to lynch him, and show me where I suggested that??

In fact, I stated the exact opposite

Autumn · 06-09-2009, 12:04 PM

I would think we'd want to wait until the King has done something, acted on his power, before lynching as we could then get some info from it. Or not acted enough times that we get suspicious.

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 12:04 PM

and how does pass get out of jail? its not a set sentence, is he simply stuck there until the wolves spring him?

Autumn · 06-09-2009, 12:05 PM

Lathum, I don't understand why you're focusing on Barkeep. Woudln't it be just as useful to clear anybody?

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 12:05 PM

actually your post reads like you dont understand that hes elected for life :P

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Just a note to everyone - As I stated before, tomorrow is the only day I work this work this week. I won't be around from 12 p.m. EST - 5 p.m. EST

Well it appears he didn't check in before he left so we have to wait a while to hear about Pass

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i think using "who was killed" as a way to try to figure out who's a wolf, particularly this early in the game, but largely for the entirety of the game, isn't much better than picking at random.

Well we really don't have much else to discuss with no lynch and no word from Schmidty.

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

actually your post reads like you dont understand that hes elected for life :P

How do you get that from my post, have you even been reading the thread?

It was mentioned SEVERAL times that the first king probably gets lynched early, and yesterday I even asked if the only way to replace a King was to lynch them, I obviously understand the mechanic.

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

and how does pass get out of jail? its not a set sentence, is he simply stuck there until the wolves spring him?

I find it hilarious you are suggestin I didn't know the rules yet you are asking this question. The King releases him.

I don't like the way you are playing. I know as a wolf I sometimes am a little lax about knowing the rules early on.

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Lathum, I don't understand why you're focusing on Barkeep. Woudln't it be just as useful to clear anybody?

I don't believe this at all.

I think BK is best suited to be King so it is more valuable to have him cleared then other players like say, Clap, who obviously hasn't even read the rules or the whole thread.

Autumn · 06-09-2009, 12:21 PM

So, you think he's best suited just because of your feelings about him as a player? Okay.

However, if we want to clear a player we're really going to need a seer scan. Or else Schmidty to clear them and us to lynch/scan Schmidty.

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

So, you think he's best suited just because of your feelings about him as a player? Okay.

However, if we want to clear a player we're really going to need a seer scan. Or else Schmidty to clear them and us to lynch/scan Schmidty.

Well we can't scan Schmidty.

am I the only one who picked up on the fact that when Schmidty was elected it was pretty much a foregone conclusion he would be lynched pretty early on?

DaddyTorgo · 06-09-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I find it hilarious you are suggestin I didn't know the rules yet you are asking this question. The King releases him.

I don't like the way you are playing. I know as a wolf I sometimes am a little lax about knowing the rules early on.

re:clap - this i agree with looking at

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I find it hilarious you are suggestin I didn't know the rules yet you are asking this question. The King releases him.

I don't like the way you are playing. I know as a wolf I sometimes am a little lax about knowing the rules early on.

im always lax about the rules lathum.......

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I don't believe this at all.

I think BK is best suited to be King so it is more valuable to have him cleared then other players like say, Clap, who obviously hasn't even read the rules or the whole thread.

I have read the rules, alebeit belatedly, and how the hell do you get this? I have shown no indication of not knowing the ruels.

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

I have read the rules, alebeit belatedly, and how the hell do you get this? I have shown no indication of not knowing the ruels.

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

and how does pass get out of jail? its not a set sentence, is he simply stuck there until the wolves spring him?

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Originally Posted by dubb93

The King – The king is also in charge of Woebegone Prison. The king may each night if he/she chooses decide the fate a prisoner. The king is able to free a prisoner or execute a prisoner if he/she chooses to do so each night. .

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claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 12:50 PM

doesnt mean that is the only way....... we also know the wolves can break him out.... might be others!

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

doesnt mean that is the only way....... we also know the wolves can break him out.... might be others!

that's not what you said.

You asked how he gets out and if he is stuck there.

You made no indication to having any knowledge of how the mechanics work.

Chief Rum · 06-09-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I don't believe this at all.

I think BK is best suited to be King so it is more valuable to have him cleared then other players like say, Clap, who obviously hasn't even read the rules or the whole thread.

I would rather not depend on a Schmidty backing of BK for clearance, given how Schmidty was nommed for his current position. Pretty much, BK is the last person I would vote to jail right now (if the intent of that jailing is for clearing).

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I would rather not depend on a Schmidty backing of BK for clearance, given how Schmidty was nommed for his current position. Pretty much, BK is the last person I would vote to jail right now (if the intent of that jailing is for clearing).

I disagree.

Schmidty clears BK then for BK to be elected king we need to lynch Schmidty in which case we learn Schmidtys alligience.

If he is good no reason for hiim to engage in shenanagins with BK.

Autumn · 06-09-2009, 01:04 PM

I agree Chief, I think we need to jail people just as we usually lynch them, with the added bonus that we may get them cleared at some point. I'm going to look at the post list and see who's been quietest.

Autumn · 06-09-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I disagree.

Schmidty clears BK then for BK to be elected king we need to lynch Schmidty in which case we learn Schmidtys alligience.

If he is good no reason for hiim to engage in shenanagins with BK.

I like that, except it could be days and days before we find out anything about BK from Schmidty.

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 01:09 PM

I would imagine BK would be an early seer scan anyway, cant hurt to give Schmidty a crack at it

The Jackal · 06-09-2009, 01:19 PM

We won't know if Schmidty scanned Pass until 5ish, right?

The Jackal · 06-09-2009, 01:20 PM

Or at least if he got a result, I imagine if he decided to kill him wed've heard about it

Autumn · 06-09-2009, 01:29 PM

So, here's the bottom of the posts list:

MartinD 5
USFLTecmo 5
SnDvls 4
lerriuqs 4

I will probably vote for one of these to go to jail and send us some nice newspaper articles.

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 01:32 PM

I hate my job.... just so you all know!

RendeR · 06-09-2009, 01:32 PM

Lathum makes some good points about using the mechanic to guide our decision making on a decent king, he's also spot on that BK, based on his play style and his attention to detail would make a fantastic king.

Personally though wouldn't it just be quicker to get a seer scan and somehow get that info out? I know its hard to do so without giving the seer away but I'm sure whomever that is could manage the task.

The Jackal · 06-09-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

So, here's the bottom of the posts list:

MartinD 5
USFLTecmo 5
SnDvls 4
lerriuqs 4

I will probably vote for one of these to go to jail and send us some nice newspaper articles.

I have no issues with this strategy, UTR players always give me the heebie-jeebies, but mostly just CR.

RendeR · 06-09-2009, 01:36 PM

And Like Lathum I'm not real thrilled with clap's play atm, that could be just his lassez-faire style or it could be him trying to be sneaky, hard to tell wich.

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I have no issues with this strategy, UTR players always give me the heebie-jeebies, but mostly just CR.

+1

claphamsa · 06-09-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

And Like Lathum I'm not real thrilled with clap's play atm, that could be just his lassez-faire style or it could be him trying to be sneaky, hard to tell wich.

bah, im never sneaky! sadly

Autumn · 06-09-2009, 01:42 PM

I'm going to poick Sndvls out of a hat, simply because I haven't played with him before (I don't think) and I know I've been on all three of the others in previous games for being quiet. If there is reason to pick someone else I'm willing to listen.

VOTE SNDVLS TO GO TO JAIL

The Jackal · 06-09-2009, 01:43 PM

Sndvls did say he'd be busy today with the twins' birthday, which is a reason I might lean towards someone else.

The Jackal · 06-09-2009, 01:43 PM

Especially if you're trying to encourage activity

Lathum · 06-09-2009, 01:57 PM

Vote BK for jail

RendeR · 06-09-2009, 02:03 PM

Activity is highly overrated

SnDvls · 06-09-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Sndvls did say he'd be busy today with the twins' birthday, which is a reason I might lean towards someone else.

I'm on for the day time, just not night.

I have no problem with going to jail if it helps, but I have nothing to provide info wise as I'm just a villager.

SnDvls · 06-09-2009, 02:11 PM

has Schmitdy been on today?

I'd like to know if he's gotten anyting on the convict.

06-09-2009, 11:54 AM	#461
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	unless you are suggesting lynching Schmidty? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

06-09-2009, 12:04 PM	#465
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	and how does pass get out of jail? its not a set sentence, is he simply stuck there until the wolves spring him? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

06-09-2009, 12:05 PM	#467
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	actually your post reads like you dont understand that hes elected for life :P __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

06-09-2009, 12:50 PM	#478
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	doesnt mean that is the only way....... we also know the wolves can break him out.... might be others! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

06-09-2009, 01:32 PM	#488
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	I hate my job.... just so you all know! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

06-09-2009, 11:34 AM	#453
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So until we hear from Schmidty we are at day 1 all over again, I see no reason to not jail BK, dangerous as a wolf but if Schmidty can clear him he would be a great King.

06-09-2009, 12:04 PM	#464
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I would think we'd want to wait until the King has done something, acted on his power, before lynching as we could then get some info from it. Or not acted enough times that we get suspicious.

06-09-2009, 12:05 PM	#466
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Lathum, I don't understand why you're focusing on Barkeep. Woudln't it be just as useful to clear anybody?

06-09-2009, 12:21 PM	#472
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	So, you think he's best suited just because of your feelings about him as a player? Okay. However, if we want to clear a player we're really going to need a seer scan. Or else Schmidty to clear them and us to lynch/scan Schmidty.

06-09-2009, 01:04 PM	#482
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I agree Chief, I think we need to jail people just as we usually lynch them, with the added bonus that we may get them cleared at some point. I'm going to look at the post list and see who's been quietest.

06-09-2009, 01:09 PM	#484
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I would imagine BK would be an early seer scan anyway, cant hurt to give Schmidty a crack at it

06-09-2009, 01:19 PM	#485
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	We won't know if Schmidty scanned Pass until 5ish, right?

06-09-2009, 01:20 PM	#486
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Or at least if he got a result, I imagine if he decided to kill him wed've heard about it

06-09-2009, 01:29 PM	#487
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	So, here's the bottom of the posts list: MartinD 5 USFLTecmo 5 SnDvls 4 lerriuqs 4 I will probably vote for one of these to go to jail and send us some nice newspaper articles.

06-09-2009, 01:32 PM	#489
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Lathum makes some good points about using the mechanic to guide our decision making on a decent king, he's also spot on that BK, based on his play style and his attention to detail would make a fantastic king. Personally though wouldn't it just be quicker to get a seer scan and somehow get that info out? I know its hard to do so without giving the seer away but I'm sure whomever that is could manage the task. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-09-2009, 01:36 PM	#491
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	And Like Lathum I'm not real thrilled with clap's play atm, that could be just his lassez-faire style or it could be him trying to be sneaky, hard to tell wich. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-09-2009, 01:42 PM	#494
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm going to poick Sndvls out of a hat, simply because I haven't played with him before (I don't think) and I know I've been on all three of the others in previous games for being quiet. If there is reason to pick someone else I'm willing to listen. VOTE SNDVLS TO GO TO JAIL

06-09-2009, 01:43 PM	#495
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Sndvls did say he'd be busy today with the twins' birthday, which is a reason I might lean towards someone else.

06-09-2009, 01:43 PM	#496
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Especially if you're trying to encourage activity

06-09-2009, 01:57 PM	#497
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Vote BK for jail

06-09-2009, 02:03 PM	#498
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Activity is highly overrated __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-09-2009, 02:11 PM	#500
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	has Schmitdy been on today? I'd like to know if he's gotten anyting on the convict.

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