MLB 2021 Season Thread - Page 10

albionmoonlight · 07-23-2021, 10:18 AM

I would have also accepted the Cleveland Red Ryders

tarcone · 07-23-2021, 10:20 AM

Cleveland Rockers would have been better. Spiders would have been great.

Do not like Guardians.

QuikSand · 07-23-2021, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The Cleveland Rocks was RIGHT THERE FOR THE TAKING

yeah that felt like it

NobodyHere · 07-23-2021, 10:59 AM

I was rooting for the Cleveland Steamers

miami_fan · 07-23-2021, 11:28 AM

They have become the U.S. Space Force's official team now.

cartman · 07-23-2021, 11:34 AM

their new mascot will be Groot

BYU 14 · 07-23-2021, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Cleveland Rockers would have been better. Spiders would have been great.

Do not like Guardians.

100%, Spiders seemed like a no brainer and was by far the best choice IMO. I actually thought Guardians would have been a good choice for the WFT, but in typical Dan Snyder fashion, he has let that ship sail now. (But now he will probably go with Spiders)

NobodyHere · 07-23-2021, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

their new mascot will be Groot

This could be the only saving grace of this name.

spleen1015 · 07-23-2021, 12:56 PM

I hoped they would go back to Cleveland Spiders.

Ben E Lou · 07-23-2021, 01:43 PM

Many Indians are saying...

Trump says "many Indians" likely upset about Cleveland Guardians name change https://t.co/J0oy9eDORv pic.twitter.com/Y41ekzkHSK — The Hill (@thehill) July 23, 2021

jbergey22 · 07-23-2021, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Many Indians are saying...

Trump says "many Indians" likely upset about Cleveland Guardians name change https://t.co/J0oy9eDORv pic.twitter.com/Y41ekzkHSK — The Hill (@thehill) July 23, 2021

He knows the most Indians. They all love him. He hires lots of Indians to work for him.

ISiddiqui · 07-23-2021, 02:02 PM

From what I gather on Reddit, most Clevelander are happy with the name (well the ones who didn't get offended by a name change). It has a lot of local significance and was always one of the top two picks folks in Cleveland were discussing.

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Ksyrup · 07-23-2021, 02:07 PM

What's the Cherokee word for 'sir'?

Ghost Econ · 07-23-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

He knows the most Indians. They all love him. He hires lots of Indians to work for him.

Personally, I want to go back to the days where old men would ask "red dot or feather" when you said the word indian.

Ksyrup · 07-23-2021, 03:34 PM

Ha!

What a silly name https://t.co/imzW70OHbj
— Burlington Sock Puppets (@GoSockPuppets) July 23, 2021

RainMaker · 07-23-2021, 03:42 PM

The name is fine but I really hate when teams use a ball in their logo. It's stuff you use in sports that no one knows about.

I also wish they had leaned into the Art Deco side more since those Guardian statues are beautiful.

BYU 14 · 07-23-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Ha!

What a silly name https://t.co/imzW70OHbj
— Burlington Sock Puppets (@GoSockPuppets) July 23, 2021

Well played by Burlington LOL

Ryche · 07-23-2021, 04:19 PM

I was rooting for Naps but that's mostly because my middle name is Napoleon

miami_fan · 07-27-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

First action by MLB on Bauer, 7 day paid leave, which I assume the are imposing as a safety net to see if charges will be filed.

MLB: Dodgers' Trevor Bauer placed on administrative leave

Sources -- Los Angeles Dodgers' Trevor Bauer has MLB administrative leave extended through Aug. 6

I guess he is out until at least August 19th

BYU 14 · 07-27-2021, 09:08 PM

I have to think he is done for the season at this point. Still can't fathom how you get sexual satisfaction from the crap he did. Sick Bastard.

tarcone · 07-27-2021, 09:59 PM

Damn, watching my roto team loosely. Trea Turner gets a hit and scores and then it pops up he tested positive for Covid. Dont the majors has a 15 minute test?

tarcone · 07-27-2021, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

I have to think he is done for the season at this point. Still can't fathom how you get sexual satisfaction from the crap he did. Sick Bastard.

Gotta think in the rapist context, Its not sexual satisfaction it is power satisfaction.

JPhillips · 07-27-2021, 10:46 PM

As of today, 2/3 of the AL have a winning record.

BYU 14 · 07-27-2021, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Gotta think in the rapist context, Its not sexual satisfaction it is power satisfaction.

Good point, and knowing his ego, I would bet spot on

JPhillips · 07-29-2021, 02:53 PM

Joey Votto has eight hits in his last six games. All of them HRs.

It's amazing that he reinvented his swing mid-season last year and almost immediately became a dangerous hitter again.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-29-2021, 09:52 PM

Jesus, Dodgers.

How many high end starting pitchers do you want?
Yes.

Danny · 07-29-2021, 10:14 PM

That's got to put them back as favorites with adding a Cy winner and turner. I'd be happy to never see Bauer on the mound for them again.

jbergey22 · 07-29-2021, 10:41 PM

Dodgers have a superteam.

Hard to blame the Nats for making this trade. It seems as if they brought in quite the haul getting Gray and Ruiz.

IMO, the Dodgers would have been playoff favorites anyway at around 50/50. Making this trade makes them maybe 60/40 to win it. Did they really need to give up 2 stud prospects to increase their odds around 10 percent? Baseball playoffs are still so variable. One bad stretch and you are done.

MrBug708 · 07-30-2021, 02:18 AM

Gray is solid, though I suspect not elite. Ruiz is good, might be better than Smith, but they have a better catcher in the minors in Cartenya, so it's really not much of a package. Seager is probably not happy right now.

Vince, Pt. II · 07-30-2021, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Dodgers have a superteam.

Hard to blame the Nats for making this trade. It seems as if they brought in quite the haul getting Gray and Ruiz.

IMO, the Dodgers would have been playoff favorites anyway at around 50/50. Making this trade makes them maybe 60/40 to win it. Did they really need to give up 2 stud prospects to increase their odds around 10 percent? Baseball playoffs are still so variable. One bad stretch and you are done.

The difference between winning the NL West and being a wildcard is enormous. I think it's definitely the right move for them, and I hate it.

That being said, I think I'm pretty ok with the Giants not selling the farm to try to compete. They're not even at the start of their playoff window with this squad, and already they can compete.

The only downside to not making a move is that you have to figure out what you're going to do about Joey Bart and Buster Posey. Bart doesn't have much more to prove down in AAA (.307/.368/.540 in AAA this year with 10 HR in 117 ABs), and promoting him while Posey is still here only gets him 1 start every 3 days, which seems...not ideal for a still growing prospect.

GrantDawg · 07-30-2021, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Jesus, Dodgers.

How many high end starting pitchers do you want?
Yes.

You gotta collect them all!

jbergey22 · 07-30-2021, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

The difference between winning the NL West and being a wildcard is enormous. I think it's definitely the right move for them, and I hate it.

That being said, I think I'm pretty ok with the Giants not selling the farm to try to compete. They're not even at the start of their playoff window with this squad, and already they can compete.

The only downside to not making a move is that you have to figure out what you're going to do about Joey Bart and Buster Posey. Bart doesn't have much more to prove down in AAA (.307/.368/.540 in AAA this year with 10 HR in 117 ABs), and promoting him while Posey is still here only gets him 1 start every 3 days, which seems...not ideal for a still growing prospect.

I'm not really sure how they are doing it but the Giants are nicely put together. They seem to have the right mix this year. I keep expecting them to fall off a bit but they continue to make a believer out of me. I'd like to see them get some bullpen help(in my uneducated opinion it seems like their biggest weakness).

jbergey22 · 07-30-2021, 09:26 AM

I am pretty disappointed the Twins seem like the are trading Berrios. He has basically been their only consistent pitcher over the years. I get trading Cruz and Id get trading Donaldson but trading their only good younger pitcher seems like a move that poorly run franchises do.

sovereignstar v2 · 07-30-2021, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I am pretty disappointed the Twins seem like the are trading Berrios. He has basically been their only consistent pitcher over the years. I get trading Cruz and Id get trading Donaldson but trading their only good younger pitcher seems like a move that poorly run franchises do.

It is frustrating, but the Pohlads are going to be the Pohlads. Does Austin Martin make you feel any better about it?

Atocep · 07-30-2021, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

It is frustrating, but the Pohlads are going to be the Pohlads. Does Austin Martin make you feel any better about it?

They did pretty well there. Austin Martin has a fairly high floor and SWR has a chance to be a solid mid rotation guy if he command comes along. It sounds like his velocity is back up a tick after being down in the low 90s after being drafted.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-30-2021, 01:55 PM

Rosario - Pederson - Dunn

The Braves new outfield.

I wonder what odds Vegas would give on them all staying healthy (once Rosario returns in a couple weeks) until season's end.

Coffee Warlord · 07-30-2021, 02:47 PM

Kimbrel to the White Sox for Nick Madrigal and a reliever.

Atocep · 07-30-2021, 04:00 PM

The Mets are getting Baez and Trevor Williams for Pete Crow Armstrong. I like PCA but his shoulder injury is kind of scary and while he's probably a lock to at least be a defensive 4th outfielder but his ceiling is somewhat limited.

Baez is a great fit for what the Mets need though. He can play 2nd, 3rd, or fill in at short for Lindor and play all 3 spots at a high level.

JPhillips · 07-30-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

The Mets are getting Baez and Trevor Williams for Pete Crow Armstrong. I like PCA but his shoulder injury is kind of scary and while he's probably a lock to at least be a defensive 4th outfielder but his ceiling is somewhat limited.

Baez is a great fit for what the Mets need though. He can play 2nd, 3rd, or fill in at short for Lindor and play all 3 spots at a high level.

ANd now he and Garrett can continue their fight for another three games!

Coffee Warlord · 07-30-2021, 04:52 PM

Oof.

In the span of 24 hours, that's Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, and Kimbrel gone.

tarcone · 07-30-2021, 06:59 PM

Bummed the Nats sold. I was hoping they would be part of the push to win my roto league.

Crazy day. This seemed like a busy trade deadline.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-30-2021, 07:39 PM

I so rarely get to say anything nice about a pro organization but this warrants at least a small nod I think.

Happened to see where the Braves signed undrafted rookie free agent pitcher earlier in the week. Small college guy, pitched five years there, not in the top 500 draftable prospects.

Why the nod? His name is J.J. Niekro. Son of Joe, nephew of Phil.
Would be a longshot to ever see him in the big leagues but at least he'll be able to say that, however briefly, he was a professional ball player.

Good on the Braves for that.

tarcone · 07-30-2021, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I so rarely get to say anything nice about a pro organization but this warrants at least a small nod I think.

Happened to see where the Braves signed undrafted rookie free agent pitcher earlier in the week. Small college guy, pitched five years there, not in the top 500 draftable prospects.

Why the nod? His name is J.J. Niekro. Son of Joe, nephew of Phil.
Would be a longshot to ever see him in the big leagues but at least he'll be able to say that, however briefly, he was a professional ball player.

Good on the Braves for that.

Thats awesome. Thanks for sharing.

Would be cool if he was a knukle baller with the skills of his elders.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-30-2021, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Thats awesome. Thanks for sharing.
Would be cool if he was a knukle baller with the skills of his elders.

Took a few articles for me to uncover that he's actually a hard thrower. Went from 92 mph before surgical repairs to a torn UCL to 96 mph in about 14 months. (though 2-0 with 4.40 ERA in 14.1 innings pitched at DII this year)

But, hey, he's got a signed contract that a lot of people would give a whole arm to have so good for him.

jbergey22 · 07-30-2021, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

It is frustrating, but the Pohlads are going to be the Pohlads. Does Austin Martin make you feel any better about it?

It wasnt a bad trade by any means. Austin Martin seems like a nice prize. Mostly just frustrated because it seemed they had built a winning team and now having a poor season and trading players again.

jbergey22 · 07-30-2021, 08:48 PM

Now the Cubs....5 years ago it seemed they had a dynasty coming. And now them players are all gone.

lungs · 07-30-2021, 08:58 PM

Pretty happy with the Brewers haul, though it wasn't a flashy deadline for them. The big move came in May to get Willy Adames.

JPhillips · 07-30-2021, 10:49 PM

Tatis looks like he significantly injured his arm sliding into 3rd.

jbergey22 · 07-31-2021, 01:30 AM

St Louis loading up on past their prime left handed starting pitchers. I mean at this point I think most AAA pitchers are better than Happ or Lester.

Lathum · 07-31-2021, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Tatis looks like he significantly injured his arm sliding into 3rd.

Such a stupid unnecessary play. I get hustling and taking chances but he needs to be smarter. He’s like the star WR who will take a monster hit to gain an extra yard instead of stepping out of bounds.

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albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I would have also accepted the Cleveland Red Ryders

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07-23-2021, 02:02 PM	#462
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	From what I gather on Reddit, most Clevelander are happy with the name (well the ones who didn't get offended by a name change). It has a lot of local significance and was always one of the top two picks folks in Cleveland were discussing. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	What's the Cherokee word for 'sir'? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Ha! What a silly name https://t.co/imzW70OHbj — Burlington Sock Puppets (@GoSockPuppets) July 23, 2021 __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-23-2021, 03:42 PM	#466
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	The name is fine but I really hate when teams use a ball in their logo. It's stuff you use in sports that no one knows about. I also wish they had leaned into the Art Deco side more since those Guardian statues are beautiful.

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07-27-2021, 09:08 PM	#470
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	I have to think he is done for the season at this point. Still can't fathom how you get sexual satisfaction from the crap he did. Sick Bastard.

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tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Damn, watching my roto team loosely. Trea Turner gets a hit and scores and then it pops up he tested positive for Covid. Dont the majors has a 15 minute test? __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

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07-29-2021, 10:14 PM	#477
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That's got to put them back as favorites with adding a Cy winner and turner. I'd be happy to never see Bauer on the mound for them again.

07-29-2021, 10:41 PM	#478
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Dodgers have a superteam. Hard to blame the Nats for making this trade. It seems as if they brought in quite the haul getting Gray and Ruiz. IMO, the Dodgers would have been playoff favorites anyway at around 50/50. Making this trade makes them maybe 60/40 to win it. Did they really need to give up 2 stud prospects to increase their odds around 10 percent? Baseball playoffs are still so variable. One bad stretch and you are done. Last edited by jbergey22 : 07-29-2021 at 10:46 PM.

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MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Gray is solid, though I suspect not elite. Ruiz is good, might be better than Smith, but they have a better catcher in the minors in Cartenya, so it's really not much of a package. Seager is probably not happy right now.

07-30-2021, 09:26 AM	#483
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	I am pretty disappointed the Twins seem like the are trading Berrios. He has basically been their only consistent pitcher over the years. I get trading Cruz and Id get trading Donaldson but trading their only good younger pitcher seems like a move that poorly run franchises do.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Rosario - Pederson - Dunn The Braves new outfield. I wonder what odds Vegas would give on them all staying healthy (once Rosario returns in a couple weeks) until season's end. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	The Mets are getting Baez and Trevor Williams for Pete Crow Armstrong. I like PCA but his shoulder injury is kind of scary and while he's probably a lock to at least be a defensive 4th outfielder but his ceiling is somewhat limited. Baez is a great fit for what the Mets need though. He can play 2nd, 3rd, or fill in at short for Lindor and play all 3 spots at a high level.

07-30-2021, 04:52 PM	#490
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Oof. In the span of 24 hours, that's Rizzo, Baez, Bryant, and Kimbrel gone.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I so rarely get to say anything nice about a pro organization but this warrants at least a small nod I think. Happened to see where the Braves signed undrafted rookie free agent pitcher earlier in the week. Small college guy, pitched five years there, not in the top 500 draftable prospects. Why the nod? His name is J.J. Niekro. Son of Joe, nephew of Phil. Would be a longshot to ever see him in the big leagues but at least he'll be able to say that, however briefly, he was a professional ball player. Good on the Braves for that. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

07-30-2021, 08:48 PM	#496
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Now the Cubs....5 years ago it seemed they had a dynasty coming. And now them players are all gone.

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lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Pretty happy with the Brewers haul, though it wasn't a flashy deadline for them. The big move came in May to get Willy Adames.

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