03-23-2009, 10:50 AM | #451 |
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Telle and Poli look good here, and Peregrine a little as well -- that vote was 5-4. If we were wolf-wolf it doesn't matter much, but I agree with the earlier comments, that I don't think a wolf would put a second vote on another wolf -- that really ramps up the chance they go wolf-wolf on the first day.
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thanks pass!
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I screwed up a little here -- on Day 2, I had no vote, so that probably means clap voted for Telle. My bad. |
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03-23-2009, 10:51 AM | #454 |
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I voted telle night 2 I belvie..
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Paranoia time -- maybe the wolves could have decided to have one wolf put a second vote on another wolf, since we'd think that pretty much cleared them. Then, when that wolf died, we'd trust the voting wolf. However, you'd think they'd have their trusted wolf be the cunning wolf, which was Abe. So I feel pretty safe in trusting Telle, Poli, and Peregrine.
clap, I'm about to check out to get some work done, but why is it me vs. you? You mentioned dubb, but you also ignored him as a person you would seriously consider voting for. Why would you do that, if you think his vote needs explaining? And what about KWhit and Schmidty? |
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Pass, no votes of the people who are dead?
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well I said that before looking at your vote counts. and I would like to see how the dead wolves voted, maybe ill do it. Im assuming telle is good here, and we are the ones who voted for her (with 2 wolves). so its logical that one of us is bad, as to dubb. he just threw his vote away, that is fairly attention grabbing and a bad strategy for a wolf!
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Do you see any votes on my list for them? They're dead, so I didn't bother. If you think it's useful, go ahead and put them up. Anyway, here's the fixed voting record: Peregrine -- EagleFan, Telle, Abe Sargent claphamsa -- Passacaglia, None, Telle Passacaglia -- claphamsa, Telle, Telle Telle -- Abe Sargent, Abe Sargent, Abe Sargent Poli -- Peregrine, Abe Sargent, Abe Sargent dubb93 -- PurdueBrad, Danny, Passacaglia KWhit -- PurdueBrad, None, None Schmidty -- Poli, Danny, Telle |
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Dur...let's try that again.
Peregrine -- EagleFan, Telle, Abe Sargent claphamsa -- Passacaglia, Telle, Telle Passacaglia -- claphamsa, None, Telle Telle -- Abe Sargent, Abe Sargent, Abe Sargent Poli -- Peregrine, Abe Sargent, Abe Sargent dubb93 -- PurdueBrad, Danny, Passacaglia KWhit -- PurdueBrad, None, None Schmidty -- Poli, Danny, Telle |
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I think dubb made it clear that of the two, he'd rather have seen Telle die, but didn't vote for her since it would have created a tie. |
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03-23-2009, 11:05 AM | #461 |
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Wow, great move by Danny with the "fake" reveal, and great in that we nailed another wolf!
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well... his voting record has been pretty atrocious.... almost as bad as mine
but I think this is kinda how he has played. less active= less anger.
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my logic follows like this (and maybe wrong) Danny revelas as the wife... and goes well out of his way to say how much he trusts telle (we all caught that im sure) so the vamps assume tell is the husband, so they try to lynch her! and we know that at least 2 of them voted for her, and the other 2 votes on her had uniformly awful voting records, and i know im good
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I just don't see them dumping that many votes into one basket. |
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but feel free to argue with me I am making an assumption here
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normally i wouldnt either, but they knew that if they sent CR after Eben they would lose him, so a lynch is the best bet..... but its always possible.
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I'm thinking that based on dubb's play at the end as Abe died, he's probably good. If he wanted to save Abe, he'd have a chance by voting for Telle and creating a tie. Yet he pretty much said he WOULD vote for Telle. The wrong choice, sure, but I don't think he would put himself out there like that on the wrong choice while still letting Abe die.
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So I'm leaning toward clap or Schmidty.
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So Claphamsa, what were your reasons for voting for Telle during the last day? Telle had already been placed very high on Danny's trust list, and Danny was considered cleared by most. So if we're looking at people that might have wanted to lynch Telle, why did you?
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I forgot to vote during the day, and I hadnt caught up...
lame i know.
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Just looking at those voting records, I think we'll find a wolf in Dubb, Schmidty, or Pass. I'm going to put some pressure on. That Day 2 vote by Schmidty stinks to high heaven for me - if you look at it, we had 2 known goods, 1 trusted, and low-suspicion Poli voting for Abe. Dubb and Schmidty joined two vamps in voting for Danny. I don't think all of the vampires (if there are 4) would have voted for the same person, and Dubb's early vote is slightly less suspicious to me. But once the vote got to be 4-2 for Abe, Schmidty and CR jumped in to save him. Since CR is a vamp, that's not good company to be in.
Also in the same vote, claphamsa devoted for Danny after his "reveal." This led to CR having to expose himself to tie the vote. If Clap is a vamp this doesn't seem like a smart play, it would be better to keep the vote on Danny to force the tie, instead of having to risk CR in the much more suspicious late tying vote. vote schmidty |
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Peregrine, I think 4 vamps and a cultist in a game of 14 seems high. I'm thinking we've got one left.
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Your logic is good, but im not looking forward to an after game review from this one
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Nice job Danny!!!
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so... we have 2 votes? any ideas or votes from anyone else? Beuler Beuler?
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I think anyone assuming Telle has to be the wife is using flawed logic. I may be over thinking things here but I think the wife is Poli.
Note this is for CoT building purposes only and I do not think Poli will come out and admit to being the wife even in the event he is the wife. |
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This is what were doing to the wolves!
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I'm not sure it matters at this point. I haven't thought much about whether or not Telle is the wife, but I have high trust for both of them, so I'm not too concerned about it. Or are you trying to make an argument for voting Telle? |
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I'm not making an argument for voting Telle but I am 100% certain that Poli is not a standard villager. That leaves a 33% chance he is a vampire just looking at the rules and a 33% chance he is the wife. If Telle comes in and claims the wife that leaves it 50-50 Poli is a vampire. I just place him as the wife at the moment. |
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Also it should be noted that CR threw heat on Pass during the night on night 1 and then Abe gave Pass a vote on day 2 early. This is something I missed during the voting process during day 3 and it pushs Pass high up my trust list.
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Also if we go back to my logic that caught PB(it was flawed I know, but it worked) it can be said Peregrine is not a normal villager either.
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Again in my PM it said 100% certainty that I do not mind the cold. The only 4 to publicly come out starting anything different than this or just flat out saying that their PM did not say this are PB, Poli, Danny, and Peregrine. PB and Peregrine both made cracks about the cold and Poli and Danny both said that their PM did not contain any insight into the cold. Also Schmidty and KWhit have both vouched with me stating that their starting PMs said they did not mind the cold. Again take this all for what it is worth. |
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I think I am voting for Peregrine. I think this the perfect time to take a look at him and something about his posts just jump out and scream third wolf to me.
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Should be noted my suspect list only contains three names at this point and I hope I'm not being too trusted:
Suspect list: Peregrine Poli Claphasma I may be lost right now but I really just have to think the third vampire is in that list. Also should be noted Poli is in my CoT as the wife at this point but due to his comments it has to remain possible that he could be the last vampire(he is not a vanilla villager). |
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[quote=dubb93;1975917] I hope I'm not being too trusted:
QUOTE] trusted=trusting. I'm still suffering from Trow type it seems. |
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interesting not to trust logic....
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the thing about Poli... hes not to be trusted, but its likely that hes a roll. just odd.
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Go village! Good luck finishing them off guys!
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ok so you said you shouldn't be oo trusted then put him on your suspect list... even tho you think hes good. just odd logic.
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I think this is interesting.....also that day, Peregrine basically put the condemning vote on Abe, and poli voted after him... not exactly wolf hiding places.
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And for what it is worth until he is 100% cleared with a reveal and no one else disagreeing he has to be on the suspect list even though I think I know his role. There are 3 roles left in the game, Poli IS roled, thus there is a chance I am wrong about his role no matter how confident I am in it. Thus he stays on the suspect until his death or his reveal.
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trow type? its too :P im a shitty typer sorry
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I guess you could be not couting the vampire as a role but you seem to0
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