Werewolf CXVIIIb XTreme - WOLVES WIN

[Danny]

Spleen, you feel ok about voting Nightfall? I know for sure you are a villager as you are not in any of the 3 possible wolf combinations.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I don't know if Danny or you are the wolf - I'm pretty certain that Danny is but I don't know 100% I haven't really registered that you revealed as the hunter and what it meant. Everyone was talking me vs Packer. I know I'm a villager and if you lynch me we are very likely to lose. I'm acting in self-defence.

The only problem I have with this is if you are saying that there is a really good chance the village will loose if you get lynched then the same could be said about any villager. You cleared Packer so from a village perspective there is no reason to vote him. Your best bet would to make the best case for Danny or I and hope the correct person was chosen tomorrow if you couldn't convince us of switching today.

[spleen1015]

vote nightfall

[Danny]

Yeah and to me, it sounded like he was trying to keep my open as the option tomorrow after lynching Packer and the game not being over.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Seer - Each night receives a vision of a target player as 'wolf' or 'not wolf.' The seer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is 'not wolf.' Thereafter, the seer chooses which player to view.

Villager = not wolf. Packer came back as not a wolf.

If we lose because I wrote "villager" instead of "not a wolf" then I'm sorry.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Villager = not wolf. Packer came back as not a wolf.

If we lose because I wrote "villager" instead of "not a wolf" then I'm sorry.

Doesn't matter, if you were really the seer, you would absolutely be pushing for me or Zinto. Because even if you lynched wrong today, you could lynch the other tomorrow and still win.

[Zinto]

I guess there is a chance that Packer is the sorcerer and he has really mucked up the situation. If that is the case then tomorrow we loose no matter what since he will assuredly vote with the wolf.

[Zinto]

This is something I did not think about and it is beginning to make me second guess myself a little so for now.

Unvote Nightfall

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I guess there is a chance that Packer is the sorcerer and he has really mucked up the situation. If that is the case then tomorrow we loose no matter what since he will assuredly vote with the wolf.

Yeah, but a fake reveal as the sorc is a bad play as it would mean a wolf might be lynched instead. IMO, one of the best plays a sorcerer can make in this small a game is to get themselves lynched day 2 or 3

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Danny

Doesn't matter, if you were really the seer, you would absolutely be pushing for me or Zinto. Because even if you lynched wrong today, you could lynch the other tomorrow and still win.

I'm reacting to how I see it. I die we almost certainly lose. I push to lynch you and you vote me? I'm dead. You seem very certain about this Danny.

[Zinto]

I would prefer if you vote for nightfall before you go Narcizo just in case. Honestly I could see a situation where Packer is the sorcerer but I am not sure why he would reveal as the priest not the seer unless he scanned Narcizo and knew that he was the seer.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'm reacting to how I see it. I die we almost certainly lose. I push to lynch you and you vote me? I'm dead. You seem very certain about this Danny.

By we, you mean you and bhlloy, the wolves, yes?

[Narcizo]

The first thing I did this morning was check with Autumn. Sorceror reads as not wolf.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'm reacting to how I see it. I die we almost certainly lose. I push to lynch you and you vote me? I'm dead. You seem very certain about this Danny.

From your perspective, I just don't see why you would not push to vote me. From an outside perspective, I would say Zinto is an unlikely wolf and would be voting me.

[Danny]

If Narc is telling the truth, the only possible wolves are Zinto/Mau and Danny/Mau with Packer as the sorcerer and Chubby as the Priest and Jag as the hunter.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I would prefer if you vote for nightfall before you go Narcizo just in case. Honestly I could see a situation where Packer is the sorcerer but I am not sure why he would reveal as the priest not the seer unless he scanned Narcizo and knew that he was the seer.

I'll vote nightfall now. I trust you 99% Zinto but not 100%. I trust myself 100%. I need to save myself from a lynch so the wolves night kill me or, more likely, kill you.

You were onto Packer smelling fishy this morning. Do you really think under those circumstances I go the route I've taken rather than going directly after Packer?

[Danny]

Looking at it from my perspective though Narc, I also trust Zinto a lot, and I KNOW I am not the wolf, so it's tough for me to go with you as that would mean it would have be Zinto

[Autumn]

packerfanatic - narcizo (414)
narcizo - packerfanatic (362), zinto (398), danny (433), spleen1015 (439)

Nightfall - PackerFanatic, Danny, spleen1015

[Zinto]

The only people who could be wolves in a winnable situation would be Narcizo or Danny. If Packer is the sorcerer and we have not lynched a wolf the game is already lost. So for now I am going to revote nightfall and hope Narcizo is a wolf.

Vote Nightfall

[PackerFanatic]

If Narc is not a wolf, then either Zinto or Danny has really played well as one

[Danny]

And you played well as the sorcerer, hopefully this ends the game with a village win

[Zinto]

[quote=Narcizo;2486464

You were onto Packer smelling fishy this morning. Do you really think under those circumstances I go the route I've taken rather than going directly after Packer?[/quote]


That has caused me grief. It would be much easier as a wolf to call out someone who already had doubt on them. SO while I am not sure about what is about to happen if Packer is not the sorcerer and there is one wolf then we still have a good chance to win tomorrow.

[Danny]

If Zinto ends up being the wolf, I will congratulate him on a fantastic game

[Zinto]

Before you go Narcizo I would love for you to do some analysis for if the game goes on for another day.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Danny

If Zinto ends up being the wolf, I will congratulate him on a fantastic game

Same to you Danny. Hopefully it does not come down to last day shoot out between you and I.

[Danny]

Not really analysis to go. If we lynch Narc and the game is not over, it's either you or me tomorrow.

[Narcizo]

You're all set on nightfall?

[Danny]

Yes

[spleen1015]

I am.

[Zinto]

Yep.

[PackerFanatic]

Yes wolf - I mean, sir

[Narcizo]

I'm the sorceror and I have no idea which of you bostords is the wolf. But sorry I've screwed things up which ever you are.

Kill Zinto.

Unvote Packer
Vote Narcizo
Vote nightfall

[PackerFanatic]

...what?!

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

...what?!

No kidding.

[Zinto]

Woohoo

[Zinto]

Well good luck Packer on figuring out Spleen vs. Danny.

[Autumn]

narcizo - packerfanatic (362), zinto (398), danny (433), spleen1015 (439), narcizo (482)

Nightfall - PackerFanatic, Danny, spleen1015, zinto, narcizo

[Danny]

Unless the wolf is Packer, since Narcizo was lying, Packer could very well be the wolf

[Autumn]

Deadline.

You drag Narcizo to the gallows, unanimous, and he does not fight, but taunts you as he goes down swinging.

Night begins.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Danny

Unless the wolf is Packer, since Narcizo was lying, Packer could very well be the wolf

Very true regardless good luck anyone who is a villager.

[Autumn]

I will give until 4:00 EST for night actions

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Danny

Unless the wolf is Packer, since Narcizo was lying, Packer could very well be the wolf

Those are my thoughts, too.

I have a bad feeling that you're the mastermind wolf behind all of this. Your bouncing all over the place today has me really really wondering.

[Danny]

I will most likely be voting packer, it still can't get why the wolves would not have killed him, but Narc's story didn't seem likely either, and now I know that both could be bad, it makes more sense.

[Danny]

Or I was a villager with no idea. I think if I was a wolf, I would have made my case for someone and stuck with it.

[PackerFanatic]

Or done exactly what you did just to throw us all off. I can't imagine spleen being the wolf at this point.

[Danny]

So Packer you are saying that you find it more likely that I pushed for my wolf partner in bhlloy to be lynched instead of Spleen on day two? I could have easily switched to Spleen after you revealed instead of Spleen. My guess is you are hoping to stay off Spleen in hopes that he will vote with you

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Danny

So Packer you are saying that you find it more likely that I pushed for my wolf partner in bhlloy to be lynched instead of Spleen on day two? I could have easily switched to Spleen after you revealed instead of bhllloy. My guess is you are hoping to stay off Spleen in hopes that he will vote with you

corrected

[PackerFanatic]

Either you did it after everyone else did yesterday (as you were pushing for me earlier than that) or spleen did it right from the get go. I see the situation with you joining the crowd late much more likely than spleen pushing bhlloy the first time, then casting the deciding vote on him right before deadline (even if he was trying to save himself)

[PackerFanatic]

I also find it hard to believe we were wolf-wolf yesterday.

[Danny]

We now know the seer had to be Chubby or Jag and the first wolf bhlloy or Mau. I will look at scenarios to see the most likely wolf pairing with Packer, Spleen, Mau and Bh before voting