Werewolf VIII - A Transylvania Twist - Page 10

KevinNU7 · 07-29-2005, 04:25 PM

Unvote BrianD
vote Blade

BrianD · 07-29-2005, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

And I'd like to get this thing ended today before I'm killed off by the vampires. Going after BrianD is the best way to do that, because there's a really good chance he's the master.

Not that good a chance.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 04:44 PM

I have a bad feeling that KWhit is leading us astray. Hence my vote to stick with Blade.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

I have a slight fear now

there's 11 players left

Assumptions
game started with 2 master vampires

Night 0 - Conversion
Night 1 - Conversion
Night 2 - Conversion
Night 3 - MrS killed

this means 3 covnersions and 2 masters. We have killed 1 vampire so far (type unknown).

That leaves 4 vampires remaining out of 11 players.

Let's say we lynch a villager today. That makes it 6 players and 4 vampires. Then tonight the vampires covert someone and WIN!!!!!

Maybe we should stick with Blade!!!

I've done this math as well. Kwhit could be screwing us over, but his behaviour has consistently helped us. He helped convince me about Fouts along with Mr. S. I'm quite hopeful and fairly sure that we are siding with the right guy.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 04:47 PM

The tally is now 5-3 in favor of lynching BrianD.

SirFozzie · 07-29-2005, 04:53 PM

Sheesh. Apparently there is a 2nd Belmont person.. Yay Redshirts!

Kevin: I don't think the vampires could attack night 0. it's always been that the first "bad guy" kill/conversion happens on night 1.. giving the good guys a head start. So, assuming as you did, that there was 2 to start, we should have 2 masters to start, 2 conversions, one caught (Fouts, I tend to believe he was a master, he did a lot of stuff new Vamps wouldn't do), so there's 3 left.

If Blade and Brian are both vampires, then we have about a 50/50 chance to end the game in the next two days. (If Fouts WAS a Master Vampire, then if there are 3 Vampires left, and one is the Master), then we win.

I agree with.. well I forget whom (just woke up from drug-induced sleep, give me some slack

).. according to KWhit, we know that Blade was TURNED as a vampire, so he cannot be a Master Vampire, and therefore will NOT win the game for us.

Get Brian first, and then look for others outside of Blade.. (we'll still have to probably lynch Blade tomorrow, because he won't give us any more information to be useful, and is still a vampiric vote)

I VOTE BRIAND

Sheesh, Brian, do you ever tire of playing bad guys?

BrianD · 07-29-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Sheesh. Apparently there is a 2nd Belmont person.. Yay Redshirts!

Kevin: I don't think the vampires could attack night 0. it's always been that the first "bad guy" kill/conversion happens on night 1.. giving the good guys a head start. So, assuming as you did, that there was 2 to start, we should have 2 masters to start, 2 conversions, one caught (Fouts, I tend to believe he was a master, he did a lot of stuff new Vamps wouldn't do), so there's 3 left.

If Blade and Brian are both vampires, then we have about a 50/50 chance to end the game in the next two days. (If Fouts WAS a Master Vampire, then if there are 3 Vampires left, and one is the Master), then we win.

I agree with.. well I forget whom (just woke up from drug-induced sleep, give me some slack

).. according to KWhit, we know that Blade was TURNED as a vampire, so he cannot be a Master Vampire, and therefore will NOT win the game for us.

Get Brian first, and then look for others outside of Blade.. (we'll still have to probably lynch Blade tomorrow, because he won't give us any more information to be useful, and is still a vampiric vote)

I VOTE BRIAND

Sheesh, Brian, do you ever tire of playing bad guys?

Go ahead and vote for me. We won't get any closer to winning like this.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

Go ahead and vote for me. We won't get any closer to winning like this.

This may be a sad omen for tomorrow.

There's only so much analisys that can be done, and only so much "trust" that can be placed within this game. As cheesy as it sounds, a lot of this is in the "gut" and the "heart", and those are both giving me a bad feeling about tonight's vote. I hope I'm wrong though.

BrianD · 07-29-2005, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

This may be a sad omen for tomorrow.

There's only so much analisys that can be done, and only so much "trust" that can be placed within this game. As cheesy as it sounds, a lot of this is in the "gut" and the "heart", and those are both giving me a bad feeling about tonight's vote. I hope I'm wrong though.

You aren't.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 05:35 PM

These are all things that a vampire would say. I don't think Kwhit is leading us astray. But ultimately, it is a matter of trust. Hopefully, we are all right.

BrianD · 07-29-2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

These are all things that a vampire would say. I don't think Kwhit is leading us astray. But ultimately, it is a matter of trust. Hopefully, we are all right.

How about this....you are right and wrong at the same time.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

These are all things that a vampire would say. I don't think Kwhit is leading us astray. But ultimately, it is a matter of trust. Hopefully, we are all right.

If you think I'm a vampire........just wow. Where you been this whole game?

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 05:38 PM

So, you are a vampire, but not the master vampire?

By the way, part of why I believe KWhit is because the instructions clearly refers to "they" repeatedly when discussing our seer type characters. I definitely believe there are 2 of them and no one else has stepped up claiming to be the 2nd seer.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

If you think I'm a vampire........just wow. Where you been this whole game?

Actually, I was referring to what BrianD was saying in his defense..

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Actually, I was referring to what BrianD was saying in his defense..

Ah, ok. I agree.

I get so paranoid in these games.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:04 PM

Hmm, it looks like I have two choices here. BrianD or Blade.

I'm going to go with...heck, I don't know.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:07 PM

Heck, Vote Blade6119.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Heck, Vote Blade6119.

Come on, just go random. After all, KWhit cleared you.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Heck, Vote Blade6119.

Care to explain why?

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Come on, just go random. After all, KWhit cleared you.

I should, that would be very fitting.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 06:10 PM

AE isn't cleared by Kwhit. He is cleared from being a master vampire, but he could have been converted on night 2.

Edit: Actually night 1 of vampire actions.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I should, that would be very fitting.

Um, yeah.

If KWhit is wrong, you and he are toast.

Have a nice evening.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Care to explain why?

If Kwhit's is telling the truth, then we have a vamp in the bag. If he's wrong, we're losing this battle regardless. If he is telling the truth, then we have a vampire in the bag tomorrow as well.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

AE isn't cleared by Kwhit. He is cleared from being a master vampire, but he could have been converted on night 2.

Edit: Actually night 1 of vampire actions.

Still a good old villager.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Um, yeah.

If KWhit is wrong, you and he are toast.

Have a nice evening.

]

Damned Kwhit for bringing me into this!

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 06:12 PM

That explanation doesn't make much sense to me but whatever.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

]

Damned Kwhit for bringing me into this!

Stop scrambling. You're making yourself look bad.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:16 PM

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

That explanation doesn't make much sense to me but whatever.

You're probably right, I'll have to think about it some more.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

You're probably right, I'll have to think about it some more.

Screw it, you only live once. Here's to you, kwhit. I hope you're telling the truth.

Unvote blade6119.

Vote BrianD.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Screw it, you only live once. Here's to you, kwhit. I hope you're telling the truth.

Unvote blade6119.

Vote BrianD.

Hmmm......

AE and KWhit pulling a slooooooooooooow fast-one on us?

Poli · 07-29-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Hmmm......

AE and KWhit pulling a slooooooooooooow fast-one on us?

Not at all.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 07:02 PM

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[crosses fingers]

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[crosses fingers]

So desperate.

You have a role of some of some type. Either you are a spastic villager (i've been there), or you're a Vamp.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 07:09 PM

First time in this werewolf game thing. I don't know how I'm supposed to act honestly...so I'm going ardently.

Airhog · 07-29-2005, 07:11 PM

A crowd starts to gather towards dusk. The votes are tallied quickly, and it looks like BrianD is going to be lynched. Before anyone can do anything. BrianD whips out a stake. He yells "I welcome the sweet release of death!" Then he stakes himself through the heart. His dusty remains fall to the floor. He was a vampire

Blade6119(3) Schmidty, Jeff061, KevingNu7
BrianD(7) Eaglesfan27, Sirfozzie, Ardent Enthusiast, Kwhit, Illinifan999,ntndeacon,blade6119

BrainD didn’t vote

Players
ardent enthuisiast
blade6119
BrianD Lynched Day 4 (Vampire)
dubb93 Lynched Day 2 (Doctor)
EaglesFan27
Fouts Lynched Day 3 (Vampire)
illinifan999
jeff061
KevinNu7
Kwhit
Lathum Lynched Day 1 (Villager)
Mrsimperless Killed Night 4 (Descendent)
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Sirfozzie

Poli · 07-29-2005, 07:11 PM

Woohoo!!!!!!!

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 07:13 PM

Woo hoo! We got another one

Airhog · 07-29-2005, 07:14 PM

Don't forget your night actions. If we get an overwhelming vote for someone before the deadline tomorrow night, I will run it then. If not we will wait until Sunday. I have a feeling that this next vote will go quickly

jeff061 · 07-29-2005, 07:15 PM

I think I'm just going to start voting for BrianD first thing in all WW games.

SirFozzie · 07-29-2005, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

I think I'm just going to start voting for BrianD first thing in all WW games.

That's MY line, damnit

jeff061 · 07-29-2005, 07:17 PM

Well... one vote won't get the job done.

Schmidty · 07-29-2005, 07:21 PM

As Airhog said, this should go quickly:

Vote Blade

Poli · 07-29-2005, 07:23 PM

The vampires don't get a turn?

SirFozzie · 07-29-2005, 07:24 PM

Schmidty: Are you sure you want to go with Blade? He's a vampire yes, but killing him isn't going to do any good when it comes to winning the game. There's at least one more Master out there.. killing him means we win. It's like we're giving a free turn to the vampires. (A turn we can't afford to lose because KWhit's put himself out on the line for us)

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

The vampires don't get a turn?

I think they do, but I think we know what most of us are going to do after their turn and one of us was just a bit quick on the old lynching trigger finger

Fouts · 07-29-2005, 07:26 PM

You can never really kill the undead. We'll be back in the sequel!

Eaglesfan27 · 07-29-2005, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Schmidty: Are you sure you want to go with Blade? He's a vampire yes, but killing him isn't going to do any good when it comes to winning the game. There's at least one more Master out there.. killing him means we win. It's like we're giving a free turn to the vampires. (A turn we can't afford to lose because KWhit's put himself out on the line for us)

I don't think we should discuss this too much until the vampires have taken their turn, but I can see a good argument for voting Blade next turn unless we get some more valuable data between now and then.

Poli · 07-29-2005, 07:26 PM

Ah, and I guess we can determine what the vampires are going to do as well.

Airhog · 07-29-2005, 07:31 PM

Night 5

Once again you fall into an uneasy slumber. You awake to a loud crash. You leap up out of bed and into the hallway. You notice that Kwhit's door is open. You immediately run inside his room. But nothing is in there. The window is open though. You look out the window and are surprised to see the body of Kwhit lying on the ground 50 feet below.

ardent enthuisiast
blade6119
BrianD Lynched Day 4 (Vampire)
dubb93 Lynched Day 2 (Doctor)
EaglesFan27
Fouts Lynched Day 3 (Vampire)
illinifan999
jeff061
KevinNu7
Kwhit Killed Night 5 (descendent)
Lathum Lynched Day 1 (Villager)
Mrsimperless Killed Night 4 (Descendent)
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Sirfozzie

07-29-2005, 04:25 PM	#451
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	Unvote BrianD vote Blade __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

07-29-2005, 04:44 PM	#453
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I have a bad feeling that KWhit is leading us astray. Hence my vote to stick with Blade. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

07-29-2005, 04:47 PM	#455
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	The tally is now 5-3 in favor of lynching BrianD. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-29-2005, 04:53 PM	#456
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Sheesh. Apparently there is a 2nd Belmont person.. Yay Redshirts! Kevin: I don't think the vampires could attack night 0. it's always been that the first "bad guy" kill/conversion happens on night 1.. giving the good guys a head start. So, assuming as you did, that there was 2 to start, we should have 2 masters to start, 2 conversions, one caught (Fouts, I tend to believe he was a master, he did a lot of stuff new Vamps wouldn't do), so there's 3 left. If Blade and Brian are both vampires, then we have about a 50/50 chance to end the game in the next two days. (If Fouts WAS a Master Vampire, then if there are 3 Vampires left, and one is the Master), then we win. I agree with.. well I forget whom (just woke up from drug-induced sleep, give me some slack ).. according to KWhit, we know that Blade was TURNED as a vampire, so he cannot be a Master Vampire, and therefore will NOT win the game for us. Get Brian first, and then look for others outside of Blade.. (we'll still have to probably lynch Blade tomorrow, because he won't give us any more information to be useful, and is still a vampiric vote) I VOTE BRIAND Sheesh, Brian, do you ever tire of playing bad guys? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-29-2005, 05:35 PM	#460
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	These are all things that a vampire would say. I don't think Kwhit is leading us astray. But ultimately, it is a matter of trust. Hopefully, we are all right. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-29-2005, 05:38 PM	#463
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	So, you are a vampire, but not the master vampire? By the way, part of why I believe KWhit is because the instructions clearly refers to "they" repeatedly when discussing our seer type characters. I definitely believe there are 2 of them and no one else has stepped up claiming to be the 2nd seer. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-29-2005, 06:04 PM	#466
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hmm, it looks like I have two choices here. BrianD or Blade. I'm going to go with...heck, I don't know. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 06:07 PM	#467
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Heck, Vote Blade6119. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 06:10 PM	#471
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	AE isn't cleared by Kwhit. He is cleared from being a master vampire, but he could have been converted on night 2. Edit: Actually night 1 of vampire actions. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 07-29-2005 at 06:11 PM.

07-29-2005, 06:12 PM	#476
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	That explanation doesn't make much sense to me but whatever. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-29-2005, 06:16 PM	#478
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	__________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 07:02 PM	#483
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Guess we'll find out soon enough. [crosses fingers] __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 07:09 PM	#485
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	First time in this werewolf game thing. I don't know how I'm supposed to act honestly...so I'm going ardently. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 07:11 PM	#486
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	A crowd starts to gather towards dusk. The votes are tallied quickly, and it looks like BrianD is going to be lynched. Before anyone can do anything. BrianD whips out a stake. He yells "I welcome the sweet release of death!" Then he stakes himself through the heart. His dusty remains fall to the floor. He was a vampire Blade6119(3) Schmidty, Jeff061, KevingNu7 BrianD(7) Eaglesfan27, Sirfozzie, Ardent Enthusiast, Kwhit, Illinifan999,ntndeacon,blade6119 BrainD didn’t vote Players ardent enthuisiast blade6119 BrianD Lynched Day 4 (Vampire) dubb93 Lynched Day 2 (Doctor) EaglesFan27 Fouts Lynched Day 3 (Vampire) illinifan999 jeff061 KevinNu7 Kwhit Lathum Lynched Day 1 (Villager) Mrsimperless Killed Night 4 (Descendent) ntndeacon Schmidty Sirfozzie __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

07-29-2005, 07:11 PM	#487
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Woohoo!!!!!!! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 07:13 PM	#488
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Woo hoo! We got another one __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-29-2005, 07:14 PM	#489
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Don't forget your night actions. If we get an overwhelming vote for someone before the deadline tomorrow night, I will run it then. If not we will wait until Sunday. I have a feeling that this next vote will go quickly __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

07-29-2005, 07:15 PM	#490
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I think I'm just going to start voting for BrianD first thing in all WW games. __________________

07-29-2005, 07:17 PM	#492
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Well... one vote won't get the job done. __________________

07-29-2005, 07:21 PM	#493
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	As Airhog said, this should go quickly: Vote Blade __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

07-29-2005, 07:23 PM	#494
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	The vampires don't get a turn? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 07:24 PM	#495
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Schmidty: Are you sure you want to go with Blade? He's a vampire yes, but killing him isn't going to do any good when it comes to winning the game. There's at least one more Master out there.. killing him means we win. It's like we're giving a free turn to the vampires. (A turn we can't afford to lose because KWhit's put himself out on the line for us) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-29-2005, 07:26 PM	#497
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	You can never really kill the undead. We'll be back in the sequel!

07-29-2005, 07:26 PM	#499
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Ah, and I guess we can determine what the vampires are going to do as well. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-29-2005, 07:31 PM	#500
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Night 5 Once again you fall into an uneasy slumber. You awake to a loud crash. You leap up out of bed and into the hallway. You notice that Kwhit's door is open. You immediately run inside his room. But nothing is in there. The window is open though. You look out the window and are surprised to see the body of Kwhit lying on the ground 50 feet below. ardent enthuisiast blade6119 BrianD Lynched Day 4 (Vampire) dubb93 Lynched Day 2 (Doctor) EaglesFan27 Fouts Lynched Day 3 (Vampire) illinifan999 jeff061 KevinNu7 Kwhit Killed Night 5 (descendent) Lathum Lynched Day 1 (Villager) Mrsimperless Killed Night 4 (Descendent) ntndeacon Schmidty Sirfozzie __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again! Last edited by Airhog : 07-29-2005 at 07:32 PM.

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