Fast Break Pro Basketball 2013 Released!

[korme]

It seems like the FPG may be in line with the star players, they just get them in more minutes played... so their foul rating might be coming in low because they averaged 3.5 FPG, but that number is skewed because they played 45 MPG.

Just looked at some comparative numbers and it all looks right, except for the minutes. Tough.

REAL LIFE Royals '65-'66 - 3rd Most Total Fouls
Starting Five      MPG     FPG    PER 36 FPG
Robertson            46.0     3.0          2.3
Lucas                44.5     3.5          2.8
Smith                37.3     3.5          3.3
Hawkins              26.9     3.5          4.6
Hairston             24.9     3.0          4.3
TOTAL               179.6    16.5         17.3
AVE                 35.92     3.3          3.5

REPLAY SIM Pistons '65-'66 - 3rd Most Total Fouls
Starting Five      MPG     FPG    PER 36 FPG
Davis                32.4     2.5          2.8
Hairston             32.1     3.8          4.2
Vaughn               30.3     2.6          3.1
Pettit               30.2     3.7          4.4
Swain                27.2     3.7          4.9
TOTAL               152.2    16.3         19.4
AVE                 30.44     3.26         3.9

After doing some comparisons and looking at numbers back and forth, I can't tell if any of this data helps or not. Incredibly small sample size, but it's pretty much in line with what I'm consistently seeing.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Did you change your save name at any point?

Nope, saved under the same name every time.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Did you change your save name at any point?

Could it be a problem with the Hawks moving from city to city historically?

[whomario]

the problem lies almost solely in the high fouls/low minutes imo, not the modifiers. Wilt averaged 46+ minutes his first 5 years and never below 42. Averaged 2 fouls per game (also due to him famously going out of his way avoiding to foul out, often to the detriment of his team)

Wilt Your Game 1960 per36 minutes = 36.1/15.9
Wilt real life best season 61/62 = 37/19

@ HR: Maybe try to somehow make 60s coaches run smaller rotations ? like 7/8 rather than 8/9 players getting action ?

[korme]

I guess a better comparison might be to just look at a star's career FPG/MPG/Per36FPG from real life to in a replay... you'll probably get the same FPG averages (which is how the sim works, it's taking the players RL career stats and applying them to the in game ratings), however it's not taking into account the minutes played and the lower fouls per 36.

[Marmel]

Here is a bit of a crazy idea...I admit that I am over-dependant on the colored boxes to judge ability/potential, but work with me here. A full league has quite a few blue/blue players, but that doesn't represent the once a generation type of player like Wilt, Jordan, etc. Can ratings go higher than 10 (or 100 with a full blown scouting) and create the extremely rare, once every 15-20 drafts, purple/purple type of player?

[mgsports]

Hiring Staff/Personal if I have more then one League Active should be done at once same with Draft Lottery and Draft or better yet with Free-Agent Period and interview other people's staff/Personal for Jobs.

[HeavyReign]

The total fouls are fine in historical sims. The issue would be who is getting them. Next up for that is some work on the fouling rating.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

"ere is a bit of a crazy idea...I admit that I am over-dependant on the colored boxes to judge ability/potential, but work with me here. A full league has quite a few blue/blue players, but that doesn't represent the once a generation type of player like Wilt, Jordan, etc. Can ratings go higher than 10 (or 100 with a full blown scouting) and create the extremely rare, once every 15-20 drafts, purple/purple type of player?"

I think this is a phenomenal idea.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Could it be a problem with the Hawks moving from city to city historically?

Nah...either there is a sorting issue or it isn't finding Wilt in the retired players list. Try going to the Hawks season leaders under the team history section and see if you can double click on him and get the player profile to come up. This will tell me which issue it is likely to be.

[murrayyyyy]

Would it be possible to get an email when your head coach retires?

[murrayyyyy]

The list I posted earlier has both retired and active players in all-time scoring list.

 PLAYER DETAILS

 #44 C Wilt Chamberlain
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 Height:       7-1
 Weight:       311
 DOB:          8/21/1936 (40)
 College:      Kansas
 Exp:          17
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:    51  13  28   0  37  23  51  51  39   8  18  32  13  80  69  26
 Potential:   C   F   D   F   D   D   C   C   D   F   F   D                

 
 Stat Averages:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   1975  NBA  MIL  72   1 18.0  6.6  1.4  4.6  1.1  1.3  0.85  0.3  0.2  1.9
   1974  NBA  MIL  29   0 16.1  4.8  1.1  3.8  0.9  1.0  0.89  0.2  0.3  2.1
   1973  NBA  MIL  78  15 18.8  7.8  1.5  5.2  1.1  1.5  0.73  0.3  0.3  1.9
   1972  NBA  MIL  82   0 17.9  7.5  1.7  5.4  1.1  1.5  0.78  0.4  0.3  2.1
   1971  ABA  PTP  81  81 31.8 15.6  2.5  6.9  2.2  3.1  0.73  0.3  0.4  3.0
   1970  ABA  PTP  84   6 17.7  9.1  1.4  4.6  1.3  1.3  0.95  0.4  0.4  1.7
   1969  ABA  PTP  49  49 32.5 17.7  3.1  9.2  2.7  3.2  0.85  0.6  0.7  3.3
   1968  NBA  ATL  77  77 35.7 21.9  3.0 11.1  3.5  2.9  1.21  0.8  0.8  3.4
   1967  NBA  STL  82  82 36.1 25.8  2.8 10.6  2.9  3.6  0.82  0.7  1.0  4.0
   1966  NBA  STL  66  66 35.0 28.0  3.2 11.6  2.6  3.3  0.78  0.5  0.9  3.7
   1965  NBA  STL  80  80 33.9 30.0  3.3 11.7  2.9  3.6  0.80  0.7  1.2  4.1
   1964  NBA  STL  76  76 34.0 29.2  3.4 12.1  2.8  3.7  0.78  0.9  1.4  3.9
   1963  NBA  STL  78  78 35.2 30.0  3.3 11.3  2.8  3.7  0.77  0.8  1.7  4.0
   1962  NBA  STL  78  78 33.6 31.8  2.9 10.1  2.3  3.8  0.61  0.6  1.5  3.8
   1961  NBA  STL  80  80 31.9 29.0  3.1 10.1  2.0  3.7  0.53  0.8  1.3  4.1
   1960  NBA  STL  78  78 31.8 29.5  2.8  9.9  2.0  3.5  0.57  0.7  1.5  3.9
   1959  NBA  STL  65  64 28.0 23.0  2.3  7.6  1.5  3.8  0.38  0.5  1.2  4.0
 Career          1235 911 29.1 21.0  2.5  8.7  2.1  2.9  0.38  0.6  0.9  3.3

 Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT% InsM InsA   In%  JsM  JsA   Js%  3PM  3PA   3P%
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   1975  2.9  5.4  .531  0.8  1.6  .496  2.1  3.0  .685  0.8  2.4  .341  0.0  0.0  .000
   1974  2.0  4.4  .457  0.8  1.7  .458  1.3  1.9  .696  0.7  2.4  .268  0.0  0.0  .000
   1973  3.3  6.2  .540  1.2  2.4  .484  2.4  3.4  .695  0.9  2.7  .346  0.0  0.0  .000
   1972  3.1  6.1  .510  1.4  2.7  .496  2.2  3.4  .650  0.9  2.7  .330  0.0  0.0  .000
   1971  6.7 12.0  .556  2.2  4.4  .513  5.1  7.6  .665  1.6  4.4  .368  0.0  0.0  .000
   1970  3.8  7.0  .539  1.5  3.1  .504  3.0  4.3  .681  0.8  2.6  .309  0.0  0.0  .000
   1969  7.4 13.5  .551  2.8  5.6  .493  5.7  9.1  .627  1.7  4.4  .393  0.0  0.0  .000
   1968  9.3 15.9  .584  3.3  7.1  .468  6.7  9.6  .702  2.6  6.3  .406  0.0  0.0  .000
   1967 10.4 17.8  .585  4.9 10.0  .495  8.0 11.1  .716  2.5  6.7  .366  0.0  0.0  .000
   1966 11.4 19.5  .585  5.2 10.2  .515  8.5 11.7  .725  2.9  7.8  .373  0.0  0.0  .000
   1965 11.7 19.1  .610  6.7 13.2  .506  9.4 12.9  .730  2.3  6.2  .362  0.0  0.0  .000
   1964 11.5 18.4  .622  6.2 12.6  .495  9.5 12.4  .770  1.9  6.1  .320  0.0  0.0  .000
   1963 11.7 18.7  .628  6.5 13.4  .487  9.5 12.1  .785  2.2  6.5  .338  0.0  0.0  .000
   1962 12.2 18.2  .669  7.4 14.3  .517 10.1 12.7  .792  2.1  5.5  .384  0.0  0.0  .000
   1961 11.2 17.2  .653  6.5 13.3  .489  9.1 11.8  .771  2.2  5.4  .398  0.0  0.0  .000
   1960 11.4 17.2  .663  6.6 13.4  .495  9.6 12.1  .789  1.9  5.1  .364  0.0  0.0  .000
   1959  8.7 13.6  .641  5.5 10.8  .508  7.3  9.4  .770  1.4  4.2  .348  0.0  0.0  .000
 Career  8.4 13.8  .605  4.2  8.5  .498  6.6  9.0  .738  1.8  4.9  .361  0.0  0.0  .000
 
 Stat Totals:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS   MIN   PTS  OREB   REB   AST    TO   STL   BLK    PF  +/-
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   1975  NBA  MIL  72   1  1299   474   103   331    81    95    20    15   139 -440
   1974  NBA  MIL  29   0   467   138    31   111    25    28     7    10    60 -132
   1973  NBA  MIL  78  15  1463   609   116   409    84   115    21    25   148 -344
   1972  NBA  MIL  82   0  1466   619   136   441    93   119    30    23   172 -344
   1971  ABA  PTP  81  81  2575  1263   200   559   181   248    26    30   242 -501
   1970  ABA  PTP  84   6  1484   762   118   386   107   113    34    30   139 -163
   1969  ABA  PTP  49  49  1594   866   152   453   133   157    31    32   163   33
   1968  NBA  ATL  77  77  2752  1685   234   855   269   222    64    61   263  265
   1967  NBA  STL  82  82  2959  2115   230   873   241   294    54    84   325  224
   1966  NBA  STL  66  66  2312  1850   209   765   171   220    35    61   245  -81
   1965  NBA  STL  80  80  2710  2399   260   932   230   286    56    99   327  370
   1964  NBA  STL  76  76  2584  2216   256   918   216   278    65   110   299  136
   1963  NBA  STL  78  78  2745  2340   258   881   220   286    62   136   312  234
   1962  NBA  STL  78  78  2623  2477   223   789   181   297    49   114   298  575
   1961  NBA  STL  80  80  2554  2316   251   805   157   298    60   103   328  650
   1960  NBA  STL  78  78  2477  2298   219   769   154   270    56   116   301  720
   1959  NBA  STL  65  64  1819  1492   150   496    95   247    32    81   262  169
 Career          1235 911 35883 25919  3146 10773  2638  3573   702  1130  4023 1371

 Shooting Totals
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 Season   FGM   FGA   FTM   FTA   3PM   3PA
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   1975   208   392    58   117     0     0
   1974    58   127    22    48     0     0
   1973   259   480    91   188     0     0
   1972   254   498   111   224     0     0
   1971   541   973   181   353     0     2
   1970   316   586   130   258     0     2
   1969   365   662   136   276     0     0
   1968   715  1224   255   545     0     0
   1967   855  1462   405   818     0     0
   1966   752  1286   346   672     0     0
   1965   932  1527   535  1058     0     0
   1964   871  1401   474   958     0     0
   1963   915  1456   510  1047     0     0
   1962   951  1421   575  1113     0     0
   1961   899  1377   518  1060     0     0
   1960   891  1343   516  1042     0     0
   1959   567   884   358   705     0     0
 Career 10349 17099  5221 10482     0     4
 
 Efficiency:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G   TS%  PPS  AST   TO  USG  ORR  DRR   RR  PER     VA   EWA   +/-  OEFF  DEFF
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   1975  NBA  MIL  72  .535 1.21 13.1 15.3 17.6  8.1 19.8 13.7 12.3   33.2   1.1  -6.1  91.2 106.7
   1974  NBA  MIL  29  .466 1.09 12.4 13.9 15.8  6.4 18.6 12.1  9.2  -10.0  -0.3  -4.6  88.0 100.7
   1973  NBA  MIL  78  .540 1.27 11.0 15.1 19.3  8.2 20.8 14.5 14.5   84.2   2.8  -4.4  94.5 104.4
   1972  NBA  MIL  82  .519 1.24 11.5 14.7 20.3  9.6 21.0 15.4 14.5   84.5   2.8  -4.2  96.4 107.0
   1971  ABA  PTP  81  .560 1.30 11.6 15.9 22.7  8.3 14.6 11.5 13.8  123.8   4.1  -6.2 101.1 109.2
   1970  ABA  PTP  84  .544 1.30 11.6 12.3 23.0  8.3 18.7 13.5 16.2  124.4   4.1  -1.9  99.3 105.3
   1969  ABA  PTP  49  .553 1.31 12.4 14.6 24.7  9.7 18.1 14.1 17.3  158.9   5.3   0.7 102.9 101.7
   1968  NBA  ATL  77  .575 1.38 13.8 11.4 25.6  8.6 21.9 15.4 22.9  504.9  16.8   3.4 102.3  97.6
   1967  NBA  STL  82  .581 1.45 10.2 12.5 29.9  8.5 22.2 15.6 24.2  599.7  20.0   2.7 103.9 100.3
   1966  NBA  STL  66  .585 1.44  8.7 11.2 32.5  9.7 25.2 17.6 27.1  570.7  19.0  -1.2 101.4 102.0
   1965  NBA  STL  80  .602 1.57  9.2 11.4 33.7 10.2 26.7 18.4 31.7  854.4  28.5   4.6 105.5  99.9
   1964  NBA  STL  76  .608 1.58  9.3 12.0 33.1 10.9 27.4 19.3 32.4  842.6  28.1   1.8 102.9 100.1
   1963  NBA  STL  78  .610 1.61  9.1 11.8 32.8 10.9 24.3 17.9 33.0  916.6  30.6   3.0 103.4  99.6
   1962  NBA  STL  78  .648 1.74  7.6 12.4 33.9  9.5 22.0 16.0 36.3 1005.5  33.5   7.4 105.8  96.0
   1961  NBA  STL  80  .628 1.68  6.8 13.0 33.8 10.6 21.9 16.4 34.3  902.3  30.1   8.1 105.2  94.2
   1960  NBA  STL  78  .638 1.71  6.9 12.1 33.9  9.9 22.3 16.4 36.1  944.4  31.5   9.2 108.0  95.7
   1959  NBA  STL  65  .625 1.69  6.2 16.1 32.1  9.4 20.0 14.9 29.0  500.9  16.7   2.6 101.5  96.7
 Career          1235  .597 1.52  9.4 12.8 28.9  9.4 22.0 15.8 26.0 8240.8 274.7   1.1 102.3 100.4
 
 Playoff Averages:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   1970  ABA  PTP   5   0 16.4  6.8  0.8  3.6  1.2  1.6  0.75  0.4  0.8  1.8
   1969  ABA  PTP   5   5 35.0 18.6  3.6 10.4  3.6  1.8  2.00  0.6  0.0  3.6
   1968  NBA  ATL   5   5 32.0 21.8  1.8  8.2  3.0  3.0  1.00  0.2  0.4  4.0
   1967  NBA  STL   7   7 36.4 28.4  4.0 11.7  2.9  4.0  0.71  0.9  1.7  3.9
   1965  NBA  STL  17  17 30.4 25.6  3.2 10.7  2.9  2.8  1.04  0.9  1.2  3.8
   1963  NBA  STL   8   8 33.3 27.1  3.1 12.4  2.6  4.6  0.57  0.4  1.5  4.6
   1962  NBA  STL   4   4 30.5 32.8  3.3 10.5  1.0  6.3  0.16  0.5  1.0  4.5
   1961  NBA  STL   8   8 32.4 31.8  2.3  8.9  1.6  3.3  0.50  0.5  0.8  4.1
   1959  NBA  STL   9   9 28.7 30.2  3.9  9.1  1.2  3.8  0.32  0.8  1.9  4.7
 Career          1235 911 29.1 21.0  2.5  8.7  2.1  2.9  0.32  0.6  0.9  3.3

 Playoff Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT% InsM InsA   In%  JsM  JsA   Js%  3PM  3PA   3P%
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   1970  2.4  5.2  .462  2.0  3.2  .625  2.4  3.2  .750  0.0  2.0  .000  0.0  0.0  .000
   1969  7.4 11.8  .627  3.8  6.0  .633  4.8  7.0  .686  2.6  4.8  .542  0.0  0.0  .000
   1968  8.2 14.2  .577  5.4  8.6  .628  5.2  7.4  .703  3.0  6.8  .441  0.0  0.0  .000
   1967 11.0 18.9  .583  6.4 12.7  .506  8.6 11.4  .750  2.4  7.4  .327  0.0  0.0  .000
   1965  9.9 16.8  .591  5.7 10.2  .557  8.2 10.9  .747  1.8  5.9  .300  0.0  0.0  .000
   1963  9.4 15.6  .600  8.4 14.8  .568  7.5 10.5  .714  1.9  5.1  .366  0.0  0.0  .000
   1962 12.5 16.5  .758  7.8 12.5  .620 11.3 12.3  .918  1.3  4.3  .294  0.0  0.0  .000
   1961 12.3 19.3  .636  7.3 12.0  .604  9.3 12.1  .763  3.0  7.1  .421  0.0  0.0  .000
   1959 10.7 16.6  .644  8.9 15.8  .563  9.8 12.7  .772  0.9  3.9  .229  0.0  0.0  .000
 Career  8.4 13.8  .605  4.2  8.5  .498  6.6  9.0  .738  1.8  4.9  .361  0.0  0.0  .000
 
 Playoff Totals:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G  GS   MIN   PTS  OREB   REB   AST    TO   STL   BLK    PF  +/-
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   1970  ABA  PTP   5   0    82    34     4    18     6     8     2     4     9   -4
   1969  ABA  PTP   5   5   175    93    18    52    18     9     3     0    18   24
   1968  NBA  ATL   5   5   160   109     9    41    15    15     1     2    20  -18
   1967  NBA  STL   7   7   255   199    28    82    20    28     6    12    27    7
   1965  NBA  STL  17  17   516   435    54   182    49    47    16    20    64   -2
   1963  NBA  STL   8   8   266   217    25    99    21    37     3    12    37   -5
   1962  NBA  STL   4   4   122   131    13    42     4    25     2     4    18    8
   1961  NBA  STL   8   8   259   254    18    71    13    26     4     6    33   -2
   1959  NBA  STL   9   9   258   272    35    82    11    34     7    17    42   12
 Career          1235 911 35883 25919  3146 10773  2638  3573   702  1130  4023 1371

 Playoff Shooting Totals
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 Season   FGM   FGA   FTM   FTA   3PM   3PA
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   1970    12    26    10    16     0     0
   1969    37    59    19    30     0     0
   1968    41    71    27    43     0     0
   1967    77   132    45    89     0     0
   1965   169   286    97   174     0     0
   1963    75   125    67   118     0     0
   1962    50    66    31    50     0     0
   1961    98   154    58    96     0     0
   1959    96   149    80   142     0     0
 Career 10349 17099  5221 10482     0     4
 
 Playoff Efficiency:
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 Season  LGE TEAM   G   TS%  PPS  AST   TO  USG  ORR  DRR   RR  PER     VA   EWA   +/-  OEFF  DEFF
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   1970  ABA  PTP   5  .515 1.31 12.8 17.0 20.4  4.9 16.5 10.8  9.8   -1.0   0.0  -0.8  91.5  94.0
   1969  ABA  PTP   5  .639 1.58 18.2  9.1 19.9 10.7 20.0 15.4 16.8   16.2   0.5   4.8 113.4 106.8
   1968  NBA  ATL   5  .600 1.54 12.5 12.5 26.1  5.2 21.3 12.7 18.4   18.7   0.6  -3.6  97.1 100.0
   1967  NBA  STL   7  .585 1.51  9.1 12.8 31.0 11.5 22.0 16.8 23.3   48.3   1.6   1.0 102.6 101.4
   1965  NBA  STL  17  .601 1.52 10.7 10.2 32.6  9.9 25.7 17.4 26.4  121.2   4.0  -0.1 100.5  99.5
   1963  NBA  STL   8  .610 1.74  8.9 15.7 32.3 10.4 28.4 19.7 22.8   48.3   1.6  -0.6  96.6  97.5
   1962  NBA  STL   4  .750 1.98  3.4 21.4 34.5 13.1 23.6 18.9 28.6   32.8   1.1   2.0 100.0  97.5
   1961  NBA  STL   8  .648 1.65  5.5 11.1 34.5  8.1 21.1 15.0 26.7   62.1   2.1  -0.3 104.4 104.9
   1959  NBA  STL   9  .645 1.83  4.3 13.3 38.9 15.0 20.1 17.6 28.8   69.9   2.3   1.3 106.7 102.7
 Career          1235  .597 1.52  9.4 12.8 31.5 10.2 23.0 16.6 23.9  416.6  13.9   1.1 102.3 100.4
 
 Career Highs:
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 Type      Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA
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 Playoff    59   10   21    8    4    5    9   23   30   16   26    0    0
 Career     59   10   25   10    6    7   11   24   37   22   36    0    1
 
 Awards & Achievements:
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 Season   Award
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 Total    Player of the Game: 309
 Total    Player of the Week: 37
 Total    Player of the Month: 15
 Total    All-Star Appearances: 8
 Total    All-League First Team : 7
 Total    All-League Second Team : 3
 Total    Most Valuable Player : 3
 Total    Championships: 1
 1975     Inducted to the NBA Hall of Fame
 1968     NBA All-League Second Team
 1968     NBA All-Star
 1967     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1967     NBA All-League First Team
 1967     NBA All-Star
 1966     NBA All-League First Team
 1966     NBA All-Star
 1965     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1965     NBA All-League First Team
 1965     NBA Most Valuable Player
 1965     NBA All-Star
 1965     NBA Rookie Game Participant
 1964     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1964     NBA All-League First Team
 1964     NBA All-Star
 1963     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1963     NBA All-League First Team
 1963     NBA All-Star
 1962     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1962     NBA All-League First Team
 1962     NBA Most Valuable Player
 1961     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1961     NBA All-League Second Team
 1961     NBA All-Star
 1960     National Basketball Association Champion
 1960     NBA All-Defensive Second Team
 1960     NBA All-League First Team
 1960     NBA Most Valuable Player
 1960     NBA Most Improved Player
 1960     NBA All-Star
 1960     NBA Rookie Game Participant
 1959     NBA All-Rookie First Team
 1959     NBA All-League Second Team
 1959     NBA Rookie of the Year

[murrayyyyy]

Just noticed Wilt got to play in the NBA rookie game in 1959 and 1965.

[murrayyyyy]

It finally found him this season when he retired. Weird...

All All Positions Results

 Name                     Pos  Retired  Age  Exp  Points  Rebounds  Assists  Steals  Blocks  Rings
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 Bob Pettit                PF     1970   37   17   32781      9670     2347    1032     475      8
 Wilt Chamberlain           C     1975   38   17   25919     10773     2638     702    1130      1
 Walt Bellamy              PF     1974   34   13   21572      7067     1871     766     289      1
 Mauricio Durán            PF        -   32   11   20383      8034     1913    1152    1861      8
 Lou Hudson                SG        -   32   11   18736      4539     2239    1340     179      2
 Willis Reed               PF        -   35   13   18477      7279     1440     427     991      0

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Would it be possible to get an email when your head coach retires?

You should get one. I'll have to double check and make sure that is working.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

It finally found him this season when he retired. Weird...

Ok, that is different. That says there is an issue mixing in the active players. Easier to find.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Just noticed Wilt got to play in the NBA rookie game in 1959 and 1965.

On 3.0.7 or 3.0.6?

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by whomario

@ HR: Maybe try to somehow make 60s coaches run smaller rotations ? like 7/8 rather than 8/9 players getting action ?

That might be one of the solutions. I'll also probably need to allow the game to attempt to play players for 48 minutes.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

You should get one. I'll have to double check and make sure that is working.

Quick check shows not currently working.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

On 3.0.7 or 3.0.6?

3.0.6 Forgot there was a new update.

[korme]

You started that career way before 3.0.6 though, right murr?

[korme]

John Austin & Johnny Austin is the same guy.

Brian Williams and Bison Dele from Arizona both are in the database (Brian Williams changed his name to Bison Dele)

Will Solomon and a Willie Solomon out of Clemson.

Wes and Wesley Matthews - not Wesley Matthews dad. You have Wes Matthews debuting in 09 and Wesley in 10.

Same goes for Daniel ('09) and Danny ('10) Green. Same for BJ ('09) and Byron ('10) Mullens.

Keith Anderson and Kim Anderson are the same person. The real Kim Anderson that played in 1978's full name was Keith Kim Anderson.

Two John Brisker's, and two Evric Gray's of which there is only 1.

A number of Mcxxxxx are missing the proper capitilization of the third letter.

Found an Obrien and O'brien O'neil etc and what have you are incorrectly entered.

Rb Lynam should be R.B. Lynam just to keep with the consistency of the rest of those type of names.

I'd suggest Lafayette Lever becoming Fat Lever. If you search for 'Lafayette Lever' in BBRef it redirects you to Fat Lever. Good enough for me, calling him Lafayette is the equivalent of calling the other guys Tyrone Bogues, Vernell Coles, or Eric Floyd.

I'd argue for Flip Murray too, but his BBref page officially lists him as Ronald Murray.

Also, if Lew Alcinder in this game is drafted as Kareem, Lloyd Free is World B. Free to start, Chris Jackson & Oliver St. Jean are drafted as Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf and Tariq Abdul-Wahad respectively, then you probably have a case for changing Ron Artest to Metta World Peace at this point.

Does it mess up the database if a player doesn't have a last name? Or better to remove the first name? (Nene instead of Nene Hilario would be preferred)

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And I just finished going through the whole database. That should be it on duplicates.

I'm sure if I missed one I'll find it and annoy you.

[murrayyyyy]

Yeah Korme.

with version 0.7 I was able to trade for the Celtics 1985 and 86 picks which should have been illegal with my rules set of not leaving them without a first round pick in consecutive years. First time the message that blocks this didn't appear.

[Neon_Chaos]

Hey Brian, is there a central area we can get the patches?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Hey Brian, is there a central area we can get the patches?

Fast Break Pro Basketball 2013 Tech Support - Grey Dog Software

Grey Dog Forums tech support for the game has all of the patches.

[korme]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Yeah Korme.

with version 0.7 I was able to trade for the Celtics 1985 and 86 picks which should have been illegal with my rules set of not leaving them without a first round pick in consecutive years. First time the message that blocks this didn't appear.

just clarifying that for Brian. The rookie game thing has already been fixed I do believe.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

John Austin & Johnny Austin is the same guy.

Brian Williams and Bison Dele from Arizona both are in the database (Brian Williams changed his name to Bison Dele)

Will Solomon and a Willie Solomon out of Clemson.

Wes and Wesley Matthews - not Wesley Matthews dad. You have Wes Matthews debuting in 09 and Wesley in 10.

Same goes for Daniel ('09) and Danny ('10) Green. Same for BJ ('09) and Byron ('10) Mullens.

Keith Anderson and Kim Anderson are the same person. The real Kim Anderson that played in 1978's full name was Keith Kim Anderson.

Two John Brisker's, and two Evric Gray's of which there is only 1.

A number of Mcxxxxx are missing the proper capitilization of the third letter.

Found an Obrien and O'brien O'neil etc and what have you are incorrectly entered.

Rb Lynam should be R.B. Lynam just to keep with the consistency of the rest of those type of names.

I'd suggest Lafayette Lever becoming Fat Lever. If you search for 'Lafayette Lever' in BBRef it redirects you to Fat Lever. Good enough for me, calling him Lafayette is the equivalent of calling the other guys Tyrone Bogues, Vernell Coles, or Eric Floyd.

I'd argue for Flip Murray too, but his BBref page officially lists him as Ronald Murray.

Also, if Lew Alcinder in this game is drafted as Kareem, Lloyd Free is World B. Free to start, Chris Jackson & Oliver St. Jean are drafted as Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf and Tariq Abdul-Wahad respectively, then you probably have a case for changing Ron Artest to Metta World Peace at this point.

Does it mess up the database if a player doesn't have a last name? Or better to remove the first name? (Nene instead of Nene Hilario would be preferred)

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And I just finished going through the whole database. That should be it on duplicates.

I'm sure if I missed one I'll find it and annoy you.

I'm working on getting the stats together for 2012 right now so I can post an updated version of the DB. I'll run some checks to see if I can find any other duplicates as well.

Re: Nene....if you must have one name it is going to work best putting it in the last name section. The editors might insist on a first name as well if you open him there.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

with version 0.7 I was able to trade for the Celtics 1985 and 86 picks which should have been illegal with my rules set of not leaving them without a first round pick in consecutive years. First time the message that blocks this didn't appear.

This code shouldn't have changed but I could've messed something up lol.

[yeah826]

With the 3.07 update the 60's numbers are a lot closer to the real life numbers per 36 wise thanks HR!! I wish there was a way to get this game more exposure.

[OldGiants]

Originally Posted by Marmel

Here is a bit of a crazy idea...I admit that I am over-dependant on the colored boxes to judge ability/potential, but work with me here. A full league has quite a few blue/blue players, but that doesn't represent the once a generation type of player like Wilt, Jordan, etc. Can ratings go higher than 10 (or 100 with a full blown scouting) and create the extremely rare, once every 15-20 drafts, purple/purple type of player?

Yes. This is the Wilt coding I talked about earlier.

Also, having annual totals correct and not getting outlier players to be great is an issue in all sports sims. Over at OOTP, Markus often talks about annual totals being right on (there is a big comparison screen in historical sim leagues, for example) but getting Ruth to hit 50-60 homers in the 1920's is still hard--although he's got that to happen regularly now.

In OOTP, there are ratings over the supposed max, ie 1-20 scale a 22 in power. You can toggle seeing this rating on and off, but it is still there.

Just a suggestion that works in another great game.

[nZane]

Something odd is happening with trades in my game since the 3.07 update.

First, the CPU is offering trades that they aren't willing to accept. This isn't happening with all of the trades the CPU offers, but a fair amount of them. On top of that, it also seems like the Outgoing, Incoming, and Needed Salary fields aren't updating properly on the trade screen. There have been a few times I've offered a trade that should not be allowed due to salary differences that can still go through. However, a few clicks around on that screen (View Player, Submit Trade but cancelling, etc) eventually cause the numbers to update. Even then, adding or removing players won't always update those numbers.

[Young Drachma]

I saw that last night, too on a deal the AI offered me. Worked the 2nd time ,but the first time it did that where it said I needed salary when the deal wasn't pushing me over the cap.

I just had to go in, click the offer again and it worked tho.

[nilodor]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

I saw that last night, too on a deal the AI offered me. Worked the 2nd time ,but the first time it did that where it said I needed salary when the deal wasn't pushing me over the cap.

I just had to go in, click the offer again and it worked tho.

I had this happen as well. If I tried to add more salary to the deal the amount needed didn't change. But if I exited the trade screen and wend back in, the deal worked.

[korme]

Award summaries for ABA still disappear when ABA closes.

Also got some funky things happen with ABA players, guys in the primes of their careers never signed with anyone else after ABA closed (Dan Issel won 4 Playoff MVPs in a row by the end of '75 and never signed with an NBA team after, at 30 years old and still a blue guy). I don't know why this happened as I just noticed it many years later looking back.

[markprior22]

Not sure how much I'll get to play but just purchased FBPB 13 mostly because of HR's tremendous support. Hope sales are great!

[korme]

Great to hear, mp! Be sure to visit Groundhog's great website FBB for any mods you might need!

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by nZane

Something odd is happening with trades in my game since the 3.07 update.

First, the CPU is offering trades that they aren't willing to accept. This isn't happening with all of the trades the CPU offers, but a fair amount of them. On top of that, it also seems like the Outgoing, Incoming, and Needed Salary fields aren't updating properly on the trade screen. There have been a few times I've offered a trade that should not be allowed due to salary differences that can still go through. However, a few clicks around on that screen (View Player, Submit Trade but cancelling, etc) eventually cause the numbers to update. Even then, adding or removing players won't always update those numbers.

Fixed for version 3.0.8

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

Award summaries for ABA still disappear when ABA closes.

Also got some funky things happen with ABA players, guys in the primes of their careers never signed with anyone else after ABA closed (Dan Issel won 4 Playoff MVPs in a row by the end of '75 and never signed with an NBA team after, at 30 years old and still a blue guy). I don't know why this happened as I just noticed it many years later looking back.

Both should be fixed now for 3.0.8

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by OldGiants

Also, having annual totals correct and not getting outlier players to be great is an issue in all sports sims. Over at OOTP, Markus often talks about annual totals being right on (there is a big comparison screen in historical sim leagues, for example) but getting Ruth to hit 50-60 homers in the 1920's is still hard--although he's got that to happen regularly now.

In OOTP, there are ratings over the supposed max, ie 1-20 scale a 22 in power. You can toggle seeing this rating on and off, but it is still there.

Just a suggestion that works in another great game.

Once you reach a certain point this really does become the simplest solution. I won't hesitate to go with that approach if it becomes obvious that is what needs to happen to make this work the best.

[whomario]

Hi Brian, what is the status on created players (FBB as well as FBCB) not generating enough FTs and way too many 3s ?

Also, and maybe you answered it before (i tend to go out the loop with me being around for US night hours mostly), is there a chance at the game creating foreign guys for the NBA and other leagues while still importing FBCB files ? I´d absolutely love seeing my 5´11 SG tear up the german league or my 6´6 PF win a rebounding title in slovenia, but not at the cost of the game creating no local players for those leagues.
(so right now i play US leagues only)

definitely loving the game so far though

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by whomario

Hi Brian, what is the status on created players (FBB as well as FBCB) not generating enough FTs and way too many 3s ?

The issue with 3s seems much better with the latest patches. Still need to get the FTs up a few more attempts. That might be partially due to the tweaks to fouling in this next patch.

Originally Posted by whomario

Also, and maybe you answered it before (i tend to go out the loop with me being around for US night hours mostly), is there a chance at the game creating foreign guys for the NBA and other leagues while still importing FBCB files ? I´d absolutely love seeing my 5´11 SG tear up the german league or my 6´6 PF win a rebounding title in slovenia, but not at the cost of the game creating no local players for those leagues.
(so right now i play US leagues only) definitely loving the game so far though

My explanation of how this works might have been confusing. The FBCB imports will take over only the league you select for them...most likely the US league. If you had the German league running as well, the game would still be creating a separate pool of new players for that league that would be mostly German. The biggest step here is that if an elite player pops up in the German pool, they wouldn't move over to the US draft.

[HeavyReign]

******************************************************************************************************************
Version 3.0.8: http://www.fbbgames.com/FBPB3Update308.exe
******************************************************************************************************************
Fixes:
*Retired player data will be copied if you change your save name mid career.
*Fixed bug in Historical DB that reset season stats to 0 for the selected season if you added a new season and clicked the grid.
*Fixed bug that made it possible for games to be scheduled the day after the end of the regular season. These games did not get played.
*Fixed bug that caused cpu to propose trades they would not accept or that were not legal due to salary.
*Previously active leagues should be viewable on the Awards screen.
*Fixed a bug where the crash D boards setting would reset to the value of the crash O boards setting when coaching a game.
*Fixed crash when viewing opposing players in the matchups list when coaching a game.
*Players that are day to day will show injury length as D2D on the FBB News screen.
*Fixed the transition of players when teams move between leagues due to a league folding so players won't be unsignable.
*Calling a timeout while coaching a game should cause the simming to stop once the time out is called.

Changes:
*Trade proposal screen will show the overall pick # of draft picks during the draft.
*You will get an email if a staff member retires.
*Added the option to sim games from the playoff brackets screen.
*Added a listing for the total of the contract offer to the negotiations section.
*Updated the stat generation code for fouling to give a better range of values based on position.
*Added 2012 season to the historical DB (optional during patch install)
*Added foul rate to the custom mods screen.
*Added (OT) indicator to the score on the schedule screen.
*PBP will indicate who hit the ball out of bounds on team rebounds.
*Decreased starting weight of fictional Cs and PFs.

Engine Tweaks:
*Increased the importance of the fouling rating in avoiding fouls.

[Young Drachma]

Sometime send this man a nap.

[korme]

Thanks Brian, you're the man.

[korme]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

*Added 2012 season to the historical DB (optional during patch install)

Will this affect the team csv's I changed? Do I need to add a new row for all of the teams for the new year?

[yeah826]

Hey HR Derrick Rose and Andrew Bynum arent in the 2012 historical file I know its because they didn't play this season just letting you know.

[yeah826]

Bug if you go to playoff bracket screen and hit sim day or sim season you get a run time error message.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by korme

Will this affect the team csv's I changed? Do I need to add a new row for all of the teams for the new year?

The CSVs already had 2012 included. This is only for the players file.

[HeavyReign]

******************************************************************************************************************
Version 3.0.9: http://www.fbbgames.com/FBPB3Update309.exe
******************************************************************************************************************
Fixes:
*Fixed error 5 when simming on playoff brackets screen.
*Fixed power poll being blank for one league with multiple leagues active.

Changes:
*You will no longer have previous team privileges after cutting/waiving a player.
*Adjusted Historical DB so Rose and Bynam will appear in 2012 file.

[murrayyyyy]

Is it possible to have more than 15 players? The other day the game told me I had to cut players to get to 15 when I had 16 players but the CPU has 20 players almost every time I try to make a trade.