Werewolf 108, The Gang Wars of 1929 GAME OVER - North Siders Win

[EagleFan]

unvote Danny

vote Autumn

I still don't think that Danny should be trusted. He seems to be playing this game very much UTR (until today where he posted a little at least).

[Autumn]

We're starting to run out of time to consolidate. Hopefully some people on the one vote suspects will move.

[Autumn]

1 - DaddyTorgo - PurdueBrad (356)
2 - PurdueBrad - Danny (372), Poli (416)
1 - Poli - KWhit (381)
2 - Chief Rum - Autumn (419), Telle (431)
3 - Autumn - DaddyTorgo (430), Chief Rum (437), EagleFan (451)

[Autumn]

Not exactly what I was thinking of, but okay, EF, lol

[PurdueBrad]

With half an hour left, I will move. Waiting any longer means last minute shenanigans and I'm not interested. Only problem is that this will create a tie that someone needs to break.

For the record, the only way I feel bad about me pushing on DT is if he's the seer, if he's vanilla too than so be it.

unvote DT
vote Chief Rum

[EagleFan]

As of 455:

PurdueBrad 2 - Danny (372), Poli (416)
Poli 1 - KWhit (381)
Chief Rum 3 - Autumn (419), Telle (431), PurdueBrad (455)
Autumn 3 - DaddyTorgo (430), Chief Rum (437), EagleFan (451)

[Autumn]

2 - PurdueBrad - Danny (372), Poli (416)
1 - Poli - KWhit (381)
3 - Chief Rum - Autumn (419), Telle (431), PurdueBrad (455)
3 - Autumn - DaddyTorgo (430), Chief Rum (437), EagleFan (451)

[Autumn]

dola jinx

[PurdueBrad]

WTG me, I had the count right for once.

[J23]

I'll break the tie.

Vote CR

nothing solid on either autumn or CR, so just voting on gut really.

[EagleFan]

unvote Autumn

vote PurdueBrad

I got the reaction I was hoping for.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

unvote Autumn

vote PurdueBrad

I got the reaction I was hoping for.

Not that I'm going to vote my self, but care to explain?

[EagleFan]

As of 461:

PurdueBrad 3 - Danny (372), Poli (416), EagleFan (451)
Poli 1 - KWhit (381)
Chief Rum 4 - Autumn (419), Telle (431), PurdueBrad (455), J23 (460)
Autumn 2 - DaddyTorgo (430), Chief Rum (437)

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Not that I'm going to vote my self, but care to explain?

I wanted to put Autumn in the lead (someone that I suspect) to see what happened. You were the first to make sure it was tied up, now J23 follows your vote up.

My guess is there are at least 2 wolves in those 3, if not 3.

[DaddyTorgo]

interesting theory EF - certainly something to explore more fully

[DaddyTorgo]

i'd vote for PB based on that if somebody else moves to him to put him into the lead - otherwise my vote just causes a tie...

[Autumn]

Well, I know no one's protecting me, so I know your logic is wrong EF, but I can see what you're thinking.

I don't get a wolf vibe from PB at all, myself, so I'm not worried about him.

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE AUTUMN

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

[DaddyTorgo]

PurdueBrad 4 - Danny (372), Poli (416), EagleFan (451), DaddyTorgo (468)
Poli 1 - KWhit (381)
Chief Rum 4 - Autumn (419), Telle (431), PurdueBrad (455), J23 (460)
Autumn 1 - Chief Rum (437)

[Autumn]

I'm not as worried about a tie knowing that Capone is out there. Hopefully he'll make the right choice if it comes to it, but I'm strong on Chief Rum, not PB.

[J23]

I've been idling for 30 mins waiting for someone to throw on a vote so mine would have an impact.

If I voted PB, Autumn votes PB in self-defense and I cause a 2 vote swing.

If I voted Autumn, it's another 2 vote lead.

If I voted CR, it's a 3-3-2 count, which isn't narrowing stuff down like I want.

[EagleFan]

To carry on the PB theory.

Day 1 he puts and early vote on Pass (the early voters with no movement come ito suspicion with 3 villagers in the running that day).

Day 2 his vote is a strange one as he votes DT though saying he wanted his vote to count, yet he votes a 3rd party which goes against that idea entirely then doesn't change it when he sees that his vote was 3rd party. A convenient way to say he didn't vote a villager that day.

Something just doesn't sit right with me with how he is playing. Something says wolf. That combined with hisfirst two days is enough for me.

[PurdueBrad]

EF, not that this matters in your theory, but my move was purely selfish and self-defense (I figure it put me in a safe spot, obviously quite the opposite). That being said, I've seen a lot of end games lately and I'm vanilla through and through so I'm not a loss.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Day 2 his vote is a strange one as he votes DT though saying he wanted his vote to count, yet he votes a 3rd party which goes against that idea entirely then doesn't change it when he sees that his vote was 3rd party. A convenient way to say he didn't vote a villager that day.

Day 1 is day 1 so that's cool, read it however you want.

Day 2, I swear on my son's life that I misread the vote count at first but I still stand by the fact that the Lathum-DT argument plays bad, particularly when Lathum is not just a villager but the BG. Lynch me for not burying CF or Lathum, fine but all of those were villager plays.

[PurdueBrad]

I think I liked it better when you voted for me on D1 EF, D3 feels much more dangerous.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Day 2, I swear on my son's life that I misread the vote count at first but I still stand by the fact that the Lathum-DT argument plays bad, particularly when Lathum is not just a villager but the BG. Lynch me for not burying CF or Lathum, fine but all of those were villager plays.

A little tooo fine of a villager play. Unless you tell us that you knew you would be voting a villager if you went with Lathum of CF but that would mean...

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I think I liked it better when you voted for me on D1 EF, D3 feels much more dangerous.

I could go back to that next game...

[DaddyTorgo]

if i was a wolf how would i know lathum was the BG on D1??? And even more, why would I engage with him like that and keep going back to it again and again?

[Autumn]

It will be interesting to see if anyone moves at this point. If not there's the danger that the wolves have already outed Capone, so he'll probably go ahead and duke. I'm not going to switch to break the tie because of that, and because I don't like my other choice.

[EagleFan]

PB, I wish you would go back to your wolf play when we first started playing (I think we started at around the same time) when you used to have a tell that I was able to pick up on.

Your play as a wolf and villager have begun to merge and look similar, very dangerous.

I could be wrong on my read of you but I am feeling pretty confident about it at the moment.

[PurdueBrad]

Thanks, I guess. Although it screws me as a villager. I can say I'm villager until I'm blue in the face here and it won't be believable anyway.

[J23]

With us not being sure the wolves know who Capone is, I'm not really a fan of making him use his duke powers and outing himself.

[EagleFan]

We need KWhit to switch up, preferrably to PB as I would rather not risk Capone not being online and thus having a tie today.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by J23

With us not being sure the wolves know who Capone is, I'm not really a fan of making him use his duke powers and outing himself.

so break the tie then...you're able to

[EagleFan]

dola: sorry PB, nothing personal I just have a strong gut feeling here.

[J23]

unvote CR
vote PB

Trying to avoid the tie

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by J23

With us not being sure the wolves know who Capone is, I'm not really a fan of making him use his duke powers and outing himself.

Well, is there anyone here who's willing to switch? If I'm the only one I guess I'd consider it if we think it's wiser.

[Autumn]

Nevermind, there it is.

[J23]

If this plays out how it usually does, PB turns up villager, I'm voted to be lynched for my last minute swap

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

dola: sorry PB, nothing personal I just have a strong gut feeling here.

I've stopped taking things personal but there is no satisfaction in the redemption I'm about to get either. And no, that doesn't mean I'm the brutal wolf before somebody jumps in.

[DaddyTorgo]

i had an unvote-pb ready in another tab just in case it came down to a tie

[PurdueBrad]

Off to play MAG, good luck and see you next game guys.

[GoldenEagle]

Deadline

[GoldenEagle]

Final Vote Count:

PurdueBrad 5 - Danny (372), Poli (416), EagleFan (451), Daddy Torgo (468), J23 (486)
Poli 1 - KWhit (381)
Chief Rum 3 - Autumn (419), Telle (431), PurdueBrad (455)
Autumn 1 - Chief Rum (437)

[Poli]

Signal sucks in this gym.

[GoldenEagle]

Capone has gathered his most trusted lieutenants for an emergency meeting. With Frankie Rio killed this morning, Capone is in a near panic stage. However, he feels there is still time to turn this operation around. He did not want to see his right hand man killed, but realizes its apart of the business.

The boss and his men have heard strong rumors that Purdue Brad is leaking information to the North Siders. Capone calls for Purdue Brad to join the meeting. He also asks Daddy Torgo to join as well.

Capone asks Purdue Brad if he has been feeding information to the North Siders. He denies it. Capone seems to believe him and with a cruel twist of fate, he pulls out his gun and shoots Daddy Torgo dead. He explains to Purdue Brad that if he is a North Sider, he will suffer the same fate.

It was later discovered that Daddy Torgo was an ordinary gangster loyal to the Chicago Outfit. The boss apologizes.

[EagleFan]

Crud.... we had one and let him get away...

[GoldenEagle]

Night Actions are due by 9 AM EST.

[Autumn]

Well, I waited all this time for ... that?

That's disappointing. It seems we're shooting blanks (hah) in this game. Odd that we don't get the duke's identity with this. This game has some wrinkles I didn't expect.

[EagleFan]

watch:

PB
J23
and either CR or Autumn


J23's change of vote screams wolf trying to gain trust; to me at least.