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Old 10-18-2011, 09:37 PM   #451
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Dola, it sucks being away all day because then I have to lose posts by multi-quoting.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:37 PM   #452
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same old day one....the list of suspects just increased severely...
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:37 PM   #453
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fine let's move these around

unvote hoops
vote abe
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:38 PM   #454
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Police have detained a large number of people for questioning in the Two Face murder spree. Sources say no one has been charged but the District Attorney's office stands ready to take quick action if a suspect is apprehended.

Mauboy1 - PackerFanatic, ntndeacon
CrimsonFox - AbeSargent, mckerney
Narcizo - J23, saldana
Abe Sargent - Narcizo, The Jackal
Zinto - dzilla77, Hoopsguy, Lathum, Chief Rum, Daddy Torgo
Hoopsguy - Zinto, CrimsonFox, Mauboy1, Tyrith
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #455
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Breaking News as of Post 454!

Mauboy1 - PackerFanatic, ntndeacon
CrimsonFox - AbeSargent, mckerney
Narcizo - J23, saldana
Abe Sargent - Narcizo, The Jackal, CrimsonFox
Zinto - dzilla77, Hoopsguy, Lathum, Chief Rum, Daddy Torgo, commo_soldier
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #456
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I just feel like Zinto is someone who gets targeted a lot early - and for understandable reasons. But I'm trying to branch out from coming into each game voting for the same people on D1, and I got no real reads from the random conversation that took place earlier today. Voting for hoops isn't my preference, but I'd rather balance in a vacuum.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #457
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I'm actually thinking about moving it from Zinto to Abe in this spot, knowing that I'm a villager and seeing movement away from Abe/Crimson when the vote briefly surged to 3-3.

I would do it right now if I wasn't smack in the middle of the runoff, but as it stands I'll wait a couple of more minutes to see what develops.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #458
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UNVOTE HOOPSGUY
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #459
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vote Mauboy



Just going with someone who has some votes at this point. He lives a long time in the last game.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:40 PM   #460
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Not that I'm getting a dola in here, but I mean when vote was 3-3-3-3 with me/Zinto/Abe/Crimson.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:40 PM   #461
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I think Zinto is a villager here.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:41 PM   #462
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I think Zinto is a villager here.

me too.
I also think Narcizo is a villager.

This is all vibe mind you
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:42 PM   #463
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If I was a seer, I would be scanning Hoops tonight. i still do not get a good vibe from him, but he's not someone I would want to vote out day 1.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:45 PM   #464
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I hate first day votes. I feel bad voting for anyone
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:45 PM   #465
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UNVOTE ZINTO
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:47 PM   #466
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5-5 tie between Zinto and Abe as of post 465
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:47 PM   #467
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whats the count
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:47 PM   #468
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Unvote Mauboy
vote Commo
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:47 PM   #469
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I'm all for getting scanned, but I'm not sure who wouldn't say that if they were drawing some heat. It won't get us any kind of bad guy, but there are worse things individually than sliding onto a trusted list.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:48 PM   #470
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5-5 tie between Zinto and Abe as of post 465

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whats the count

Timestamp bug!
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:48 PM   #471
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There are lots of reasons to keep quiet about roles for a long time in this one, so we should do our best to try to avoid being in a spot where someone has to reveal with five minutes to go. So whether it's Zinto, hoops or Abe, let's try to put one of them a little in the lead in the next five minutes.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:48 PM   #472
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Hoops making sure he is not a top 2 candidate. I think a typical Hoops move would be to leave his vote where it was.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:48 PM   #473
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More like solidly in the lead.
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I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:49 PM   #474
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I'm not switching my vote again. Four or five is enough.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:49 PM   #475
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Unvote COmmo
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I know I said I wasn't going to do this, but I am going with my gut and at least going to see what kind of action this creates.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:50 PM   #476
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Hoops 2 - Zinto (197) mauboy (390)
Zinto 5 - dzilla (217) Lathum (304) Chief (440) Daddy Targo (446) Commo (450)
mauboy1 2 - PackerFanatic (230) ntndeacon (334)
CrimsonFox 2 - Abe Sargent (248) mckerney (403)
Narcizo 2 - J23 (260) saldana (349)
Abe Sargent 5 - Narcizo (269) Jackal (389) CrimsonFox (453) Tyrith (458) hoops (465)
Commo - Danny (468)
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:50 PM   #477
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ok, ties dont help

unvote narcizo
vote abe
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:50 PM   #478
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Vote - Abe
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:50 PM   #479
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none danny, people won't vote for hoops.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:52 PM   #480
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Hoops making sure he is not a top 2 candidate. I think a typical Hoops move would be to leave his vote where it was.

I guess it is interesting to hear what people say is "typical" for me, but personally I think playing gut on vote movement late in a day is awfully typical of my vanilla villager play.

I didn't like how Zinto surged out to a late run on top of me once there were four candidates in the mix, knowing that I was a villager and the incentive of the 5 people with knowledge of Two Face would be to keep their guy out of the runoff. So I wanted to push one of the two (CF/Abe) into the runoff.

If that isn't typical for me, then maybe my game needs work. Because I think it is absolutely the right move in that spot.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:52 PM   #481
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Unvote Hoops
Vote Zinto


I feel about 95% we have a villager-villager run off here.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:52 PM   #482
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Hoops 3 - Zinto (197) mauboy (390) Danny (475)
Zinto 5 - dzilla (217) Lathum (304) Chief (440) Daddy Targo (446) Commo (450)
mauboy1 2 - PackerFanatic (230) ntndeacon (334)
CrimsonFox 2 - Abe Sargent (248) mckerney (403)
Narcizo 1 - J23 (260)
Abe Sargent 7 - Narcizo (269) Jackal (389) CrimsonFox (453) Tyrith (458) hoops (465) saldana (477) MrBug (478)
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:53 PM   #483
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Abe isn't even around either, when was he last in thread?
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:54 PM   #484
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BTW, I completely disagree with Chief's earlier post about there needing to be voting distance. Neither candidate is even here to reveal anyway, a close vote tells us more in the long run.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:54 PM   #485
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I'll push it back towards Crimson if people feel strongly on Abe in this spot - but it would have to happen quickly for it to be useful.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:55 PM   #486
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I would say Chief, mckerny, and Daddy T are high on my suspicious list now, joining hoops and abe. And abe was probably circumstantial really.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:55 PM   #487
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I guess it is interesting to hear what people say is "typical" for me, but personally I think playing gut on vote movement late in a day is awfully typical of my vanilla villager play.

I didn't like how Zinto surged out to a late run on top of me once there were four candidates in the mix, knowing that I was a villager and the incentive of the 5 people with knowledge of Two Face would be to keep their guy out of the runoff. So I wanted to push one of the two (CF/Abe) into the runoff.

If that isn't typical for me, then maybe my game needs work. Because I think it is absolutely the right move in that spot.

I just don't think Zinto comes out like this immediately after being a wolf.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:55 PM   #488
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Also, color me surprised that Abe isn't here at the deadline given that this time matches when he was running deadlines for his game the last couple of weeks.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:55 PM   #489
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Unvote Hoops
Vote Zinto


I feel about 95% we have a villager-villager run off here.

which would be pretty much par for the day one course unfortunately
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:56 PM   #490
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I just don't think Zinto comes out like this immediately after being a wolf.

so why are you voting for him
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:56 PM   #491
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I would say Chief, mckerny, and Daddy T are high on my suspicious list now, joining hoops and abe. And abe was probably circumstantial really.

I generally agree, but a lot depends on what the candidates are. I would definitely advise the seer to potentially look at people involved in getting votes.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:56 PM   #492
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I'll push it back towards Crimson if people feel strongly on Abe in this spot - but it would have to happen quickly for it to be useful.

i would much rather go crimson than abe, to be honest
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:57 PM   #493
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i am a LITTLE suspicious of mauboy now actually just dumping his vote on hoops behind me like that
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:57 PM   #494
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so why are you voting for him

Because I don't think Abe is bad either and it was down to only two candidates. I wasn't going to make it 8-5.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:57 PM   #495
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of course you would, why change?
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:58 PM   #496
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i would much rather go crimson than abe, to be honest

OK, but when we switch that will also move it back towards Zinto.

Lets see what happens - worst case is, I guess, putting it in the hands of a coin flip.

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Old 10-18-2011, 09:58 PM   #497
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It's too late for a major switch. Its either going to be ZInto or Abe.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:58 PM   #498
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unvote abe
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:58 PM   #499
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I'll see what happens.

Unvote Zinto
VOte Crimsonfox
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:59 PM   #500
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The trick isn't getting Abe out of the lead, it is doing so in 2 minutes without vaulting Zinto back into the lead. And I'm now leaning towards thinking Zinto is not Two Face, at the very least.
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