Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens - Game over!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok then with enough loose support from my team and even looser support from our potential allies I'm going to be bold and

Attack Ironman
Impede Ironman

What is the difference between attack and impede?

[Schmidty]

JUST WOKE UP. 3 PAGES TO CATCH UP ON!!!!

HULK SKIM!!!!!!!

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

JUST WOKE UP. 3 PAGES TO CATCH UP ON!!!!

HULK SKIM!!!!!!

FIXED!!!!!

[Barkeep49]

I missed the green hulk. I missed the green.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

JUST WOKE UP. 3 PAGES TO CATCH UP ON!!!!

HULK SKIM!!!!!!!

This made me laugh.

[Barkeep49]

Oh good. My desire is fixed before it can make me too sad.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Alan T

(warpath)

I think in this game its even more important than normal games to ensure you have a lynch each day, including day 1. Sure the odds are always stacked against you on day 1, however we have a 20% chance of guessing correctly who a bad guy is. The odds aren't what drive us to making the lynch vote, but instead the voting history and the data we receive from the vote is.

Reasons why its even more important this game to proceed with a day 1 lynch:

- We all can benefit from seeing how the actual system works out with the multiple attacks.

- There is a built in ability to possibly detect a horseman who has infiltrated one of your teams if your attack total is for some reason reduced without any clear identifier.

- It creates accountability for the teams to put actions behind their words. Its easy enough to say you want to do something, but will you stick up to it when the time comes?

I am also in favor of lynching on day one. But I do disagree with something that was said. The built in ability you refer to, seems to have more unknowns than a clear identifier would indicate. passive powers for example Several of us probably have them. For example I assume that the Hulk has a greater resistance than say most people. Plus it may happen that the horsemen do not use their sabatoge ability. especially if one of the 12 are up for lynch.

[Blade6119]

Barkeep, can you answer my question?

[Alan T]

Guess I will go along with my team

Attack Ironman


Hoops, just trying to make sure I understand how this works. We all have energy totals, so this attack uses up one of my energy correct? So now my energy is (original energy minus one). If I later choose to do a second attack today, its 1 more energy point or is it 2 additional energy points? (1 for the attack and 1 for being a second attack)?

[Barkeep49]

I think it's actually 3 (1 for the original and 2 for the second) but you can "power up" a launched attack at a 1-1 cost.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Barkeep, can you answer my question?

Awaiting some GM clarification Blade before I answer.

[LoneStarGirl]

Hawkeye, what are your initial plans for today? In an attempt to form a loose alliance with Mutants first, maybe we should consider Ironman

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Awaiting some GM clarification Blade before I answer.

Im assuming its a special power you have, and if it is my assumption from the rules was you dont post that in thread...you send that in by PM. If im wrong, im sorry

[Barkeep49]

Imomobolizing is an action that I, as magneto can do, for even the iron coursing through your veins can be used against you when done by somebody of my skill.

[Barkeep49]

Blade -- That was part of what I was checking and it did need to be posted in the thread.

[WVUFAN]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Guess I will go along with my team

{Doom}

This is EXACTLY what Apocalypse wants you to do, just blindly follow. I am not convinced Iron Man is guilty, and will not follow blindly to eliminate someone who very well may be helpful later.

Doom will NOT follow.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Guess I will go along with my team

Attack Ironman


Hoops, just trying to make sure I understand how this works. We all have energy totals, so this attack uses up one of my energy correct? So now my energy is (original energy minus one). If I later choose to do a second attack today, its 1 more energy point or is it 2 additional energy points? (1 for the attack and 1 for being a second attack)?

An attack in the thread uses the amount of energy listed with it in the description you received. So if that energy is one, then you now have [Energy - 1].

If you wanted to do more than one point of damage, and had a power that included a variable amount of damage, then you would PM me to indicate the amount of energy to spend - I'll do the math from there to calculate the damage. You should not post in the thread that you are doing non-standard damage, unless you want to reveal that information publicly.

If you later choose to do another attack in this day cycle, there is a +1 energy cost to initiate that action on top of any other energy costs associated with the action.

You could continue to launch additional attacks beyond that, with each additional attack incurring an additional +1 energy cost on top of the previous one.

Let me know if there are further questions around this - hopefully I'm doing an adequate job of explaining the concept but I recognize this is different than previous games.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Hawkeye, what are your initial plans for today? In an attempt to form a loose alliance with Mutants first, maybe we should consider Ironman

Tony's dirty, no quesiton about that. He's no more so than Sinister or anybody, so I'm not sure exactly why people are targeted him. We have to go after someone, so if that's the consenus, I'll follow suit.

-Br'er Hawkeye

[Mr. Wednesday]

Mathemanic (Mr. Wednesday) JOIN TEAM Silver Moon

(assuming it's still called that)

(still on p. 12 ca. post 360, but I noted that hoops needed me to make membership official)

[Barkeep49]

So there's no increasing cost to multiple attacks?

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

{Doom}

This is EXACTLY what Apocalypse wants you to do, just blindly follow. I am not convinced Iron Man is guilty, and will not follow blindly to eliminate someone who very well may be helpful later.

Doom will NOT follow.

You would be wise to follow Magneto. Fool.

[LoneStarGirl]

I am afraid spiderman doesn't want to attack anybody today. Are we sure we want such a weakling on our team hawkeye?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Hawkeye, what are your initial plans for today? In an attempt to form a loose alliance with Mutants first, maybe we should consider Ironman

Ummm, im sorry...when you said mutant first, you must have meant Silver Moon...its ok, honest mistake

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So there's no increasing cost to multiple attacks?

Yes there is. Your second attack cost = base cost + 1. Your third attack cost = base cost + 2.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

{Doom}

This is EXACTLY what Apocalypse wants you to do, just blindly follow. I am not convinced Iron Man is guilty, and will not follow blindly to eliminate someone who very well may be helpful later.

Doom will NOT follow.

I don't expect anyone to blindly follow. We have laid out our reasons. We have discussed and debated. I felt we had agreement and so I moved. Alan and spleen, and others, had already expressed agreement with the choice. So if Apocolypse wants us to blindly follow, then the attacks launched so far are clearly working against him. I would urge you to take the time and think about it, and perhaps not blindly follow, because I would not expect others to follow, but instead join in.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So there's no increasing cost to multiple attacks?

There is.
- An additional +1 energy is required to make a 2nd attack in addition to whatever energy is used with the attack
- An additional +2 energy is required to make a 3rd attack in addition to whatever energy is used with the attack
- etc, etc

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

FIXED!!!!!

What did you fix?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by gi

It'll be interesting for me to experience a Turn 1 death on my first game. Innocence has a price.

(ooc) Been there, done that. (/ooc)

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I don't expect anyone to blindly follow.

Ahem.

[LoneStarGirl]

Daredevil, tell me what who you think we should attack! Tell me now!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Ahem.

Haha this made me laugh

Schmidty's post did too earlier, as did LSG's comment about taking credit for Spidy's idea earlier too to possibly attack Venom.

So far I'm loving this game

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Ahem.

Dont worry, you dont count under "anyone"...your ardent the friendly sailor

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Hawkeye, what are your initial plans for today? In an attempt to form a loose alliance with Mutants first, maybe we should consider Ironman

I would advise not going after Iron Man today, if only for the fact to see if there is a Horseman in the Mutants First group. I think it's safe to say that out of the ten in our two teams, there's at least one Horseman. If we join with them in attacking it might be difficult in figuring out which team has the Horseman (or Horsemen).

SPIDER-MAN

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

(Mystique)

Mutants First, what do you guys think about attacking Hawkeye(Chief Rum) today?

(Cannonball)

"Well he likely would not have much of a defense, if Mr. Barton will pardon me for saying so. But if we have some kind of agreement with his team, probably not a good idea. Ah think we should attack a villanous type, 'cause I'm thinking Apocalypse recruited at least one of them to be one of his Horsemen."

[Poli]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Daredevil, tell me what who you think we should attack! Tell me now!

I don't have a bad vibe on anyone as of yet.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I think it would be very useful for Silvermoon and LaResistance! to join together. The 10 of us could choose to be VERY powerful.

I oppose a formal merger. Getting too large makes it too easy for the horsemen to bury themselves in our midst.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I would advise not going after Iron Man today, if only for the fact to see if there is a Horseman in the Mutants First group. I think it's safe to say that out of the ten in our two teams, there's at least one Horseman. If we join with them in attacking it might be difficult in figuring out which team has the Horseman (or Horsemen).

SPIDER-MAN

Following this logic means that there likely won't be a lynch today. We are going to have to have some cooperation amongst groups in order to get a lynch.

Captain Marvel, dear, you are on the wrong team.

[WVUFAN]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I don't expect anyone to blindly follow. We have laid out our reasons. We have discussed and debated. I felt we had agreement and so I moved. Alan and spleen, and others, had already expressed agreement with the choice. So if Apocolypse wants us to blindly follow, then the attacks launched so far are clearly working against him. I would urge you to take the time and think about it, and perhaps not blindly follow, because I would not expect others to follow, but instead join in.

{Doom}

You are a fool. There was not any sort of communication between all of us. You are blindly guessing and reacting without any logic at all. If you are wrong, and Iron Man is not a Horseman, then you will be next to fall, for you would have cost us as a whole dearly.

It is funny how the heroes are always the first to turn on one of their own.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Following this logic means that there likely won't be a lynch today. We are going to have to have some cooperation amongst groups in order to get a lynch.

Captain Marvel, dear, you are on the wrong team.

Cooperation, yes...like ive said, alliances are what we want, not mergers. Keep the teams small and that way we can differentiate when the lynches comes back good or bad

[Talgian]

(Mr. Sinister)

I see you are gracing us with your presence, Dr. Doom. What do you think of this Ironman development? I believe the Silver Surfer is a more likely candidate for Horsemanship, as he is both an experienced in these games, as well as extremely powerful. However, angering the Silver Moon team seems beyond foolish at this juncture, whereas Ironman does not sport such support. I still have not seen anyone that truly strikes me as evil, so I am quite uncertain as to my attack, for the time being.

[LoneStarGirl]

I never thought Spiderman to be so passive. Daredevil, do something about this!

[Blade6119]

Mr. W, as my only team member on right now what are your thoughts for today?

[Mr. Wednesday]

With the variations in team size (and possibly variations in attack effectiveness), I don't think it's a given that different teams attacking different targets will mean no lynch.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Following this logic means that there likely won't be a lynch today. We are going to have to have some cooperation amongst groups in order to get a lynch.

Maybe. I assume that Iron Man will be tough to bring down, but if all you want is a lynch, why not go after someone weaker? Or get a bruiser like Hulk to help you out?

SPIDER-MAN

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Talgian

However, angering the Silver Moon team seems beyond foolish at this juncture

Thats right, IM SCARY!! GARRRRR!!!!!!!

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I oppose a formal merger. Getting too large makes it too easy for the horsemen to bury themselves in our midst.

I do not care what you oppose! I did not ask for a formal merger! I want an alliance. If you think that you are not worthy to have an alliance with LARisistance then we will ally with the Nasty Mutants!

[Poli]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I never thought Spiderman to be so passive. Daredevil, do something about this!

Patience for now, we'll see what happens.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

{Doom}

You are a fool. There was not any sort of communication between all of us. You are blindly guessing and reacting without any logic at all. If you are wrong, and Iron Man is not a Horseman, then you will be next to fall, for you would have cost us as a whole dearly.

It is funny how the heroes are always the first to turn on one of their own.

I eagerly await the logic of your attack then doom

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

(warpath)

Normally on day 1 I don't have a problem throwing out a vote early on since you can just change it later. Since in this game once you do an attack, you've used your attack I want to be a bit more cautious is all. We can decide on some plan of action before you have to go, but I would like to look further into what things happen today before I am ready to make a move.

-Do you go after someone in a larger team and risk the retalliation of that team?
- Do you go after someone who isn't in a team or on a smaller team to be able to battle off any form of retalliation that may come?

We also had Silver Moon offer a loose alliance at least in the early going while we might have mutual goals to accomplish that we should consider.

-Do we team up with them and go after someone making it very tough for the other person to defend themselves?


Also in selecting a target, I guess everyone has different type of attacks and are vulnerable to certain types of things.

-Do we choose someone less likely to have some insane defense like Hulk or someone to make sure we get the most bang to our buck?

(Cannonball)

"Ah I think its probably best if we attack a smaller team or person not on a team. I mean it could get pretty bloody pretty quickly if two big groups went at it. But I'm thinking it'd be a pretty smart idea to take on someone at least moderately powerful on the power scale. That way if we get lucky and pick a Horsemen, we hopefully will have enough attacks to take 'em out. But I'm just the son of a coal miner, so I'm not as smart as the rest of you."

I think for the first day at least, we should probably not team up with Silver Moon or the other teams and see where things stand the next day.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Thats right, IM SCARY!! GARRRRR!!!!!!!

Why do i get the sinking feeling no one is afraid of me...