WW LXV-- Enter the CUBICLE (GAME OVER! See Post #1625 For Final Game Post)

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

so no one coments on cronins statment? he doesnt want us to figgure out hes a wolf??????????????????????????????

I'm not following.

[claphamsa]

well the simple logic is even if he isnt bad.... he should want info on who might be wolves... and not just one solo lynch!

[claphamsa]

Its about lynching lots of wolves not just one!

[The Jackal]

I think cronin was indicating a strategy the wolves might be using, trying to tell us that wolves may not necessarily be voting for each other right now, or trying to call each other out.

I guess clap thinks that kind of wolf thinking could only come from a wolf?

[claphamsa]

not only but most likely...... and in this game fueld by paranoia its not something one shoudl say!


so im betting jackall is with cronin in the same pack?

[Chief Rum]

I am home, and reading along. If anyone has any questions, feel free to come forward.

[Schmidty]

Ok, I'm here now and going through things while I eat breakfast/dinner.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I wanna make it close

Why? What does that do?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

not only but most likely...... and in this game fueld by paranoia its not something one shoudl say!


so im betting jackall is with cronin in the same pack?

I wish I was a wolf, I don't think I've been a bad guy in any game I've ever been in, but sorry to disappoint you, I'm just a department worker. I got to be the fool and the psychic in those last two games I was in and look where that got me.

I don't know anything about cronin, I was just trying to explain to pas what you might be thinking, but I think I even misintrepreted your post. But uh, thanks for jumping on me so fast, that certainly adds you to the watch list.

[SnDvls]

going through posts is this a correct vote tally

Faarah - St C (346)
Jeheinz - Lathum (348)(426), AlanT (349)
Lathum - Clap (356), Bsak (395)
Fink - jeheinz (360), path (377), jackal (414), Lathum (426)
RendeR - arles (361), Mr W (396), Oliegirl (403), mauboy (408), pass (410)
Schmidty - mauboy (371)(408)
sndvls - RendeR (373), ntn (392)

not voted - Sndvls, Faarah, Fink, Schmidty

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Oh and just a suggestion CM, in the players post on the first page, it really looks like BK was a wolf.

What, "WOLF-FIRED" made it seem like he was a wolf? lol...yeah, shoulda read that one closer after I typed it.

I clarified it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

well the simple logic is even if he isnt bad.... he should want info on who might be wolves... and not just one solo lynch!

I'm totally not understanding you. What did he say, and what do you see wrong with that?

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Ok seriously people. How hard is it to spell my name right?

[claphamsa]

he said all he cared about was getting a lynch, and he was not interested in getting info.....

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Ok seriously people. How hard is it to spell my name right?

very?

Ill just stick to farah

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

he said all he cared about was getting a lynch, and he was not interested in getting info.....

can you reference the post #? I'm feeling lazy.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Why? What does that do?

Because it makes it much eaiser later in the game to see patterns, if someone was saving someone else, etc...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

he said all he cared about was getting a lynch, and he was not interested in getting info.....

thats actualy not what he said

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Ok seriously people. How hard is it to spell my name right?

sorry

I wrote it down right, but typed it wrong...muct be aaaaaaaaaa stuck key

[SnDvls]

dola -

at least I didn't spell it fair-ahh right ?

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Because it makes it much eaiser later in the game to see patterns, if someone was saving someone else, etc...

Well that makes sense. Sorry, that was a rather newbie question.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm totally ok with a unanimous vote on a wolf. Who cares if we learn anything.

this is what cronin said.

I guess I just interpreted it differently

[mauchow]

I'm tempted to switch over to Finkster... dunno yet.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

dola -

at least I didn't spell it fair-ahh right ?

I'm just giving you crap.

Though...if my name really was spelled Faarah. I'm sure I'd be on the terror watch list.

[claphamsa]

421

Originally Posted by The Jackal

can you reference the post #? I'm feeling lazy.

[claphamsa]

well at least you gave an oppinion on it!~

Originally Posted by Lathum

this is what cronin said.

I guess I just interpreted it differently

[The Jackal]

That's kind of confusing. I may be missing something.. but for a unanimous vote on a wolf we'd kind of need to know for sure that someone was a wolf. We aren't anywhere close to a unanimous vote, nor should we be, especially with the Observer gone.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

421

I missed that. That is semi-interesting.

[Lathum]

I read it more he would rather get a sure lynch of a wolf then gain information

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I read it more he would rather get a sure lynch of a wolf then gain information

How the hell do we get a sure lynch on a wolf without any information, though?

[st.cronin]

That post was a response to people wavering on voting for the player in the lead, since it would make the vote not close - my point is, a close vote that gets a villager lynched is much worse than a runaway vote that gets a wolf lynched.

Its not rocket science.

[mauchow]

i get it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm tempted to switch over to Finkster... dunno yet.

Is there some kind of argument that's tempted you? I don't even think finkster has shown up since you said that's what would cause you to switch.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

That post was a response to people wavering on voting for the player in the lead, since it would make the vote not close - my point is, a close vote that gets a villager lynched is much worse than a runaway vote that gets a wolf lynched.

Its not rocket science.

Hm. So you'd rather we stick on one person with the hope that they are the wolf instead of trying to see how voting patterns are working with multiple votes on multiple people?

It's all well and good to hope we get a wolf lynched, but it's certainly not a guarantee. The benefit of having a close vote is that you force multiple people to defend themselves, and that sometimes can lead to role reveals. When it's just one person with a ton of votes on them, there's not much likelihood they are going to get the vote changed. So maybe there's a better chance of getting a wolf with 4 votes on two people than eight votes on one, eh?

[Alan T]

Alot of people in the thread without much going on.. We're missing several votes aren't we? Everyone is waiting for something it feels like or is it just overwhelming indifference?

[st.cronin]

There's this idea that some players have that a vote should be "close." I'm not exactly against the idea, I just think sometimes its overrated.

[Chief Rum]

Day 2 Count (as of post #487)

Render (5)-- Arles (361), Mr. Wednesday (396), oliegirl (403), mauboy1 (408), Passacaglia (410)
finkenst (4)-- jeheinz72 (360), path12 (377), The Jackal (414), Lathum (426)
Lathum (2)-- claphamsa (356), bsak16 (395)
SnDvls (2)-- Render (373), ntndeacon (392)
Farrah Whitworth-Rahn (1)-- st.cronin (346)
jeheinz72 (1)-- Alan T (349)

Not Voted: Farrah Whitworth-Rahn, finkenst, Schmidty, SnDvls


Here's what I got right now. Anyone's vote is wrong, please let me know.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Its not rocket science.

Well thats good, because your not a rocket scientist.

[SnDvls]

okay I'm going to force some votes and see what kind of reaction we get, plus it's getting late, bathtime for the little one and all...and yes I know I'm making a tie too so don't give me any crap about it, but it forces the non-voters to vote to I hope and that should give us something to work with tomorrow.

vote Fink

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hm. So you'd rather we stick on one person with the hope that they are the wolf instead of trying to see how voting patterns are working with multiple votes on multiple people?

It's all well and good to hope we get a wolf lynched, but it's certainly not a guarantee. The benefit of having a close vote is that you force multiple people to defend themselves, and that sometimes can lead to role reveals. When it's just one person with a ton of votes on them, there's not much likelihood they are going to get the vote changed. So maybe there's a better chance of getting a wolf with 4 votes on two people than eight votes on one, eh?

I think he's just saying it's better to vote for who you think is a wolf, then to vote just to make it close. I think people are reading too much into this (and going apeshit in the process ).

[RendeR]

UNVOTE SNDVLS

VOTE FINK

purely self preservation here. I have to force a tie. Lets see who moves next. Do they save me? Do they same Fink? Since I tied it, if they save Fink, methinks we find a wolf in the vote.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

okay I'm going to force some votes and see what kind of reaction we get, plus it's getting late, bathtime for the little one and all...and yes I know I'm making a tie too so don't give me any crap about it, but it forces the non-voters to vote to I hope and that should give us something to work with tomorrow.

vote Fink

nice....

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think he's just saying it's better to vote for who you think is a wolf, then to vote just to make it close. I think people are reading too much into this (and going apeshit in the process ).

Thank you, for some reason that's the first time I understood it clearly. I think both camps have good points, but which strategy to use usually depends on how the game is going. Since we don't know much at all right now, and someone is going to get lynched either way, putting the pressure on multiple people is okay with me right now.

I get what you mean now, cronin.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

There's this idea that some players have that a vote should be "close." I'm not exactly against the idea, I just think sometimes its overrated.

I like the idea of a vote being close because it causes people to commit themselves for someone.. There are people who haven't voted yet, or might move their vote.. are they willing to put themselves on the line to save Render and condemn Fink, or save Fink and condemn Render, or go somewhere else and risk people claiming they were throwing away their vote to hide. It puts a bigger spotlight on people's reasons for what they do. If the vote is 8-3 or something, no one is going to risk anything really and you don't really gain anything.

I already have my suspicions on a few people from how Lathum escaped the lynch yesterday, I'll be interested to see how they play a part of today's vote which is possible because of how close it is. We can then start drawing lines to connect certain people based on those actions.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hm. So you'd rather we stick on one person with the hope that they are the wolf instead of trying to see how voting patterns are working with multiple votes on multiple people?

No. I am just encouraging people to vote for who they think is a wolf.

[RendeR]

Queue Fink voting for me to even it up again.....

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I read it more he would rather get a sure lynch of a wolf then gain information

thats how i read it tooooooo but how about lycnh a wold AND get info??????????????????????????????????????????????

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Alot of people in the thread without much going on.. We're missing several votes aren't we? Everyone is waiting for something it feels like or is it just overwhelming indifference?

C) Confusion.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I like the idea of a vote being close because it causes people to commit themselves for someone.. .

heh, you said that to someone with their vote on Farrah

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RendeR

nice....

bright minds think alike