Back to the Future (Night 12 Deadline: Tuesday 10 PM EST)

[murrayyyyy]

Another day Danny checked in without a vote. Even if he put up a holder vote I would have felt better.

[Chief Rum]

Anyone have a vote count?

[fontisian]

I did a re-read. Here's some stuff that stood out.

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I don't know anything about BTTF (definitely in the top 3 of movies I need to watch that people want to slap me for), but hopefully that won't put meat too much of a disadvantage.

The use of "me" makes it look like Jackal is thinking more about himsef. It sounds like something a lone scum might say, IMO, which doesn't even fit in the rules.

Originally Posted by Autumn

These may either be BullMoose specials or in control of some of the characters.

What is a BullMoose special?

Chief's theories generally make a lot of sense.

At the end of Day 1, JAG could have either tried to bus mau or tried to save him. Since he did neither, I'm fairly comfortable saying they probably aren't on a scum team.

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I wonder if George has a lover mechanism with Marty in the past

Weird the the guy who's never seen Back to the Future was thinking about this. Could mean he was talking about it with other people (aka scummates) over pm.

[Chief Rum]

That's an interesting point, font (the last one), although to me that whole line of thinking is weird, as no way would George and Marty be considered lovers in the classic sense. George and Marty's mom, Marty and Jennifer, maybe even Marty and his mom, but George and Marty when they were close to the same age were at best awkward friends.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by KWhit

But I've been trying to process the rules and tease out how they might help (or more likely hurt) the village. For instance, the fact that Jag pointed out about scans not able to clear anyone is a tough handicap on the village. That coupled with the potential of cunning and conversion make our scans pretty weak.

Just wanted to say that I actually pointed that out.

Originally Posted by Autumn

Huh. Well we lost two vanillas,not bad for a "first" day/night. At least we have some info now.

Autumn feels overly ... ok with the town deaths.

Mau: I don't like it when people ignore my questions, even when they're joking. Like this one:

Originally Posted by fontisian

Mind blown. I assumed you voted for him because he voted for you. Is that not true?

that you never actually answered.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That's an interesting point, font (the last one), although to me that whole line of thinking is weird, as no way would George and Marty be considered lovers in the classic sense. George and Marty's mom, Marty and Jennifer, maybe even Marty and his mom, but George and Marty when they were close to the same age were at best awkward friends.

I've also never seen Back to Future. (sorry)

[Autumn]

From my read I haven't seen much today to help me out one way or another, and haven't had any time to look back. Still dealing wtih the kids and bedtime and then either trying to work or falling asleep, I won't be on much.

Font, Bull Moose Special was a mod-created event in one of Abe's games that was triggered by unknown (to the players) conditions. So my idea was that the time jumps may just be something that's baked into the game, or in control of EF essentially.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by fontisian

I've also never seen Back to Future. (sorry)

Clearly I now live in the future.

[Autumn]

And yeah, Font, I'm perfectly okay iwth us losing a couple of vanillas on the first day. Chance of lynching a wolf are never that great, and mostly I worry about lynching a roled player early, which seems to happen a lot, especially in games with a lot of quiet players. The fact that the wolves didn't find one either is a good deal.

[Autumn]

I assume that Murray is ahead in the vote count right now and I'm okay with that. He's on my list with a question mark. However, I would expect with so little to go on by the village that the vote getters would be trying a bit harder to shift the vote, whether they're good or bad.

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE MAUCHOW

[DaddyTorgo]

Nothing said today has changed my mind so far - let's see how this plays out over the next couple hours.

[Chief Rum]

If we lynch mau now, how does that affect Day One?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by fontisian

The use of "me" makes it look like Jackal is thinking more about himsef. It sounds like something a lone scum might say, IMO, which doesn't even fit in the rules.

I don't really know how to respond to this except that it's reading too much into it - but you gotta look for something that rubs you wrong.

Originally Posted by fontisian

Weird the the guy who's never seen Back to the Future was thinking about this. Could mean he was talking about it with other people (aka scummates) over pm.

I mean, it's a father-son thing which is laid out in the rules and seems like a twist that could be in the game. Even if we haven't gotten to the point where Marty was conceived, the basic tenets of time travel tell me that killing his father would like.. make him disappear into thin air or something.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That's an interesting point, font (the last one), although to me that whole line of thinking is weird, as no way would George and Marty be considered lovers in the classic sense. George and Marty's mom, Marty and Jennifer, maybe even Marty and his mom, but George and Marty when they were close to the same age were at best awkward friends.

Right, I didn't necessarily mean the classic sense, just the general idea that if George was to die in the past, it would presumably mean Marty was never born. But it could be a stretch, I dont know.

[Danny]

I am home and am not asleep, so I will try to catch up on the game. I basically have not read anything so far. I apologize for me lack of participation

[EagleFan]

As of post 465:

murrayyyyy 3 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439)
britrock88 1 - Narcizo (429)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

[The Jackal]

It wouldn't be a classic lovers role, you are right, because it wouldn't be two-way. But I could definitely see it being a one-way lover deal.

[EagleFan]

Sorry all, today was nuts at work. Just getting caught up.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If we lynch mau now, how does that affect Day One?

Good question. Schmidty was second in the vote, so maybe it would go to the third person, which would be Danny. Or it could just be a total re-do once we get to D1 .. now if we skip D1 then I could see someone dying as a result of that, since a vote was in place.

[Zinto]

I have to get a vote out there and I may not be back before ten. I hope I am.

[Zinto]

vote brit

[Danny]

On page 5, scanning through each page a bit to get a better picture of whats happened so far

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Look. Nark's first computer



Imagine all the fun games one could play on this.

lol, I just got one of these the other day!

[Danny]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Another day Danny checked in without a vote. Even if he put up a holder vote I would have felt better.

Did not want to vote having read absolutely nothing in the game and having no idea what was going on.

[JAG]

murray, if you come back, take the current vote out of the equation and Danny's absence. Who do you think is a wolf? Same Q to brit, if he shows.

[Danny]

Ok, semi caught up after scanning all the pages. If I had missed two days in a BGG game I would have had 49 pages to read...

[Danny]

I did somehow miss Schmidty;s death in my scan, how did he die exactly?

[JAG]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Funky-looking D2 votes in bold.

Day 2
#211 07:29 JAG votes GoldenEagle (1)
#229 09:46 Autumn votes KWhit (1)
#234 10:11 Jackal votes GoldenEagle (2)
#251 12:15 murra5y votes Brit (1)
#259 12:47 Narcizo votes Chief (1)
#267 13:29 Britrock votes Schmidty (1)
#273 14:39 Mau votes GoldenEagle (3) -- hit-and-run
#288 15:54 Narcizo unvotes Chief (0) votes Brit (2)
#296 16:08 Autumn unvotes KWhit (0) votes Jackal (1), though Autumn justifies the switch based on Jackal's vote in 234
#304 16:58 Chief votes Schmidty (2)

#313 19:16 Zinto votes Jackal (2)
#314 19:17 GoldenEagle votes Britrock (3)
#326 20:45 saldana votes GoldenEagle (4)
#331 20:54 KWhit votes Britrock (4)
#332 21:06 Font votes GoldenEagle (5)
#334 21:07 mau unvotes GoldenEagle (4) votes Britrock (5)
#338 21:13 Autumn unvotes Jackal (1) votes GoldenEagle (5)
#353 21:46 DaddyTorgo votes GoldenEagle (6)
#360 21:52 mau unvotes Brit (4) votes GoldenEagle (7)

Mau's flips at the end are interesting, too. He explains the vote at 334 by saying he doesn't want to do what Font does. And his flip back to GE comes not long after this:

Originally Posted by britrock88

The votes I call "funky-looking" are such mainly because of their effect on the tally, BTW.

I didn't understand your explanation of why you bolded certain votes. You think the early upping of GE by Jackal and mau were indications of suspicion? Not sure why Autumn's vote that you highlighted is considered suspicious either.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Danny

I did somehow miss Schmidty;s death in my scan, how did he die exactly?

It appears it was done by Koranian bomb (the 3rd party wolf team) soon after the D-3 deadline.

[EagleFan]

As of post 476:

murrayyyyy 3 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439)
britrock88 2 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

Yet to vote: Danny, Chief Rum, KWhit, fontisian, JAG

[Danny]

I think there is a very good chance that Murray or Brit is a bully, I think its possible each of them is on a bad team

[Danny]

Id say my top three suspect list is Brit, Murray and Kwhit

[Danny]

vote brit

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

It wouldn't be a classic lovers role, you are right, because it wouldn't be two-way. But I could definitely see it being a one-way lover deal.

Oh man it's like this is such good material I don't know which way to go with it.

Oh wait, this is the '90s, right? So are you thinking your one-way lover is a fan of this song, Jackal?

[Autumn]

Hope we get some more clarity on the vote, as at the moment the non-voters are tied for the lead, I believe.

[EagleFan]

As of post 486:

murrayyyyy 3 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439)
britrock88 3 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Danny (484)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)

Yet to vote: Chief Rum, KWhit, fontisian, JAG

[KWhit]

Ugh. Today was double-plus-shitty at work. No time to check in at all.

So I'm catching up now.

[fontisian]

Vote The Jackal

[fontisian]

See reasons stated above. It's a little late in the day to start a wagon, but something could happen.

[EagleFan]

As of post 489:

murrayyyyy 3 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439)
britrock88 3 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Danny (484)
fontisian 1 - mauchow (448)
Danny 1 - murrayyyyy (450)
mauchow 1 - DaddyTorgo (461)
The Jackal 1 - fontisian (489)

Yet to vote: Chief Rum, KWhit, JAG

[Danny]

Originally Posted by fontisian

See reasons stated above. It's a little late in the day to start a wagon, but something could happen.

Thats pretty interesting actually.

[Danny]

unvote britrock
vote jackal

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Just wanted to say that I actually pointed that out.



that you never actually answered.

obviously

[Autumn]

So we have a four-way tie. Ooh goody.

[Autumn]

Font, so you're referencing hte stuff about Jackal not knowing the movie, but then surmising the lover role? Or something on another page?

[Autumn]

Has Chief been in today at all? I assume Kwhit and JAG will vote.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Font, so you're referencing hte stuff about Jackal not knowing the movie, but then surmising the lover role? Or something on another page?

Yeah, I'm not sure what not knowing about the movie has to do with reading the rules/roles, but..

[Chief Rum]

VOTE BRITROCK

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Vote The Jackal

Strange vote here. And I kind of disagree with what you're basing your suspicion on. First, Jackal's use of "me" is a strange thing to focus on. And I thought that his point about the lovers' roles makes a lot of sense because of the father-son angle and it's not something I had thought about - mainly because of their relationship in the movie. It sounds like an observation one would make just based on the old time travel paradox of "if you killed your grandfather... (or father)..."

So I won't be following you onto voting Jackal.