College Football Recruiting (2013 Class) Discussion - Page 10

BishopMVP · 01-23-2013, 03:32 PM

So, allegedly Vanderdoes, Fitts, Sebastian Larue, Deon Hollins and an-Texas TE commit will be visiting ND this Saturday... I wouldn't put us as the favorite for any one, but law of averages indicates we'll probably get at least one to flip.

Chief Rum · 01-23-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

So, allegedly Vanderdoes, Fitts, Sebastian Larue, Deon Hollins and an-Texas TE commit will be visiting ND this Saturday... I wouldn't put us as the favorite for any one, but law of averages indicates we'll probably get at least one to flip.

Technically, four of those five are decommits already, so they wouldn't be flips. The one who is committed, though (Hollins to UCLA), us UCLA fans have always been a little worried about, because he committed to UCLA sight unseen and always maintained he would take other visits (which he has). His father has always been very pro UCLA, though, in his online comments and apparently has said something along the lines of you're only worth your word, and that his son will stick with UCLA. We'll see about that.

As for the others, I don't think you're going to get Fitts out of LA, with how close he is to his family and him being a SoCal kid travelling to South Bend on a very cold weekend. Larue is also SoCal, but you have more of a chance with him because he has been pretty wide open. Vanderdoes is from the Sierra foothills in NorCal, so snow shouldn't bug him (although I still don't think you'll get him). I'm not familair with the Texas TE you're talking about.

It should be an interesting weekend at least.

BishopMVP · 01-23-2013, 03:57 PM

Durham Smythe is the ex-Texas TE. Stanford is probably the current leader. (Maybe "complete flipping" is a better term than just "Flip", but I just found it notable that 4 of the 5 were/are committed to high-profile schools, and the other was supposedly always a huge USC lean.)

Chief Rum · 01-23-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Durham Smythe is the ex-Texas TE. Stanford is probably the current leader. (Maybe "complete flipping" is a better term than just "Flip", but I just found it notable that 4 of the 5 were/are committed to high-profile schools, and the other was supposedly always a huge USC lean.)

Actually, Fitts, Vanderdoes and Larue were all once fully committed to USC.

Now it's my guess none of them go there. Vanderdoes still might.

MrBug708 · 01-23-2013, 04:45 PM

Tahaan Goodman to UCLA

Eaglesfan27 · 01-23-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

So, allegedly Vanderdoes, Fitts, Sebastian Larue, Deon Hollins and an-Texas TE commit will be visiting ND this Saturday... I wouldn't put us as the favorite for any one, but law of averages indicates we'll probably get at least one to flip.

Hearing, Larue won't be visiting ND this weekend. Hearing that A&M feels good about him.

Chief Rum · 01-23-2013, 06:11 PM

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Hearing, Larue won't be visiting ND this weekend. Hearing that A&M feels good about him.

I hadn't heard yet about him not going to Notre Dame, but you're right, Texas A&M is the school I am hearing for him.

cschex · 01-23-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Tahaan Goodman to UCLA

Willis soon to follow...btw, I assume that was you with the mrbug708 posting on a tigerdroppings recruiting thread earlier. You're a brave man...I'm an LSU fan and I don't even post there (though I lurk all the time)

Chief Rum · 01-23-2013, 06:18 PM

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Willis soon to follow...btw, I assume that was you with the mrbug708 posting on a tigerdroppings recruiting thread earlier. You're a brave man...I'm an LSU fan and I don't even post there (though I lurk all the time)

Heh... what did Bug say? Did he antagonize?

I think sometimes UCLA fans on Scout don't know where the real line is, because usually we're invading USC sites, and they all ban us just for signing up with "ucla" or "bruin" anywhere in our profile names.

cschex · 01-23-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Heh... what did Bug say? Did he antagonize?

I think sometimes UCLA fans on Scout don't know where the real line is, because usually we're invading USC sites, and they all ban us just for signing up with "ucla" or "bruin" anywhere in our profile names.

Nope, it seemed pretty reasonable, I just recognized the handle. TD is a fascinating melting pot for college football fans, as they have some of the most lenient mods towards "opposing" (non-LSU) fans that you'll ever find. The Recruiting Board regulars there are pretty good about policing the crazies (typically dumb LSU fans)

MrBug708 · 01-23-2013, 06:24 PM

I'm pretty tame. Did get banned on ASUs site for the lamest reason

MacroGuru · 01-23-2013, 06:44 PM

Kearsely to BYU and hopefully an end to the hat curse

Chief Rum · 01-23-2013, 08:34 PM

5* CB Priest Willis to UCLA, making a whole starting defensive backfield of Top 100 recruits committing to the school since Saturday.

dawgfan · 01-23-2013, 08:45 PM

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5* CB Priest Willis to UCLA, making a whole starting defensive backfield of Top 100 recruits committing to the school since Saturday.

All these guys to UCLA ought to cement Patrick Enewally to Washington. That's a helluva DB class the Bruins have going...

BishopMVP · 01-23-2013, 10:23 PM

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Hearing, Larue won't be visiting ND this weekend. Hearing that A&M feels good about him.

I swear I'm not trying to immediately downplay if true, but he's the one I care least about in the group. We (oh shit, I used WE) do already have 4 WR's for this class. People on message boards were saying we would take a 5th because Torii Hunter Jr. broke his fibula, but last I checked those injuries only take a few months to heal and he'd probably be back by fall camp... plus our WR's were the one position group that looked respectable in the BCS game and they're all back, so it's not like we'll need to rely on any freshmen contributing immediately.

CR - I was going back and forth between saying 4 of 5 and all 5 were previously committed. Couldn't remember if Vanderdoes was ever official to USC.

MacroGuru · 01-23-2013, 10:33 PM

Johnny Ragin III just decommitted from BYU and commits to CAL, he announced via twitter...

Brownkeg8 · 01-23-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I swear I'm not trying to immediately downplay if true, but he's the one I care least about in the group. We (oh shit, I used WE) do already have 4 WR's for this class. People on message boards were saying we would take a 5th because Torii Hunter Jr. broke his fibula, but last I checked those injuries only take a few months to heal and he'd probably be back by fall camp... plus our WR's were the one position group that looked respectable in the BCS game and they're all back, so it's not like we'll need to rely on any freshmen contributing immediately.

CR - I was going back and forth between saying 4 of 5 and all 5 were previously committed. Couldn't remember if Vanderdoes was ever official to USC.

Fibula break was very serious

Torii Hunter Jr., Notre Dame Fighting Irish commit, out 6-8 months with broken femur - ESPN

BishopMVP · 01-23-2013, 11:09 PM

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Fibula break was very serious

Torii Hunter Jr., Notre Dame Fighting Irish commit, out 6-8 months with broken femur - ESPN

6-8 months from Jan 3rd... last year fall camp started Aug 4th, a.k.a. 7 months after that date. But more importantly, we shouldn't need any freshmen WR to contribute, and have 3 more relatively as respected as Hunter committed - it wasn't like he was being counted on as a savior.

Vanderdoes is the real prize, and Hollins would be a nice piece to somewhat replace Anzalone.

BYU 14 · 01-23-2013, 11:27 PM

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5* CB Priest Willis to UCLA, making a whole starting defensive backfield of Top 100 recruits committing to the school since Saturday.

Willis is legit, watched film of him from two games this past season, big physical kid who can play corner or safety at the next level. Good pick up.

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Vanderdoes is the real prize, and Hollins would be a nice piece to somewhat replace Anzalone.

Weather couldnt be better! Plus it's going to rain this weekend here in LA after being a nice 85 the previous one

cartman · 01-24-2013, 10:23 AM

Texas picked up Rami Hammad, a former Baylor commit. He's a big OL, 6'5" 320. Texas has a small class this year, but they are loading up on offensive linemen. With the stable of running backs they have, it should be interesting to see how this turns out.

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 02:03 PM

Chief, you going to go to the BRO bash on SD

Crapshoot · 01-24-2013, 02:41 PM

Great piece: Mark Emmert, NCAA should embrace changes following Miami blunder - College Football - Andy Staples - SI.com

Chief Rum · 01-24-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Chief, you going to go to the BRO bash on SD

I would like to, actually. But not sure if I will be able to. I would need to get off of work early to have a chance to make it. I have been putting off the decision,s o I'll probably thnik about it tonight and see what I can do with work tomorrow. Are you planning to go?

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 04:00 PM

I'm gonna head down. You are slighty further than I am from Westwood. Wish we have better public transit around here haha

Cap Ologist · 01-24-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brownkeg8

Fibula break was very serious

Torii Hunter Jr., Notre Dame Fighting Irish commit, out 6-8 months with broken femur - ESPN

A friend of mine who works at his high school said they've been talking a lot about him redshirting his first year because of the break. No clue how in the loop they are.

BishopMVP · 01-24-2013, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Weather couldnt be better! Plus it's going to rain this weekend here in LA after being a nice 85 the previous one

We all know where UCLA has the weather, ND has the crazy parents in our corner... we'll have to see which one wins out!

Eaglesfan27 · 01-24-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

USC has Pat Haden out recruiting for them. He was at Eddie Vanderdoes' sister's basketball game, sitting with the family.

It was also known that Eddie was going to visit UCLA unofficially after his OV to USC and since he wasn't flying in, would be able to do that. USC sent a car to drive them from Auburn, Ca to USC. 422 miles.

USC is also hemorrhaging recruits right now.

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And possibly 1 lone player on the OL/DL, depending on if UW flips Falah and Bigelow doesn't get his eligibility sorted out

So much for the hemorrhaging... Hatcher recommitted to USC tonight and is done taking visits. Bigelow is expecteD to get clearance tomorrow for his early enrollment, but even if he doesn't, he will be at USC this year.

CU Tiger · 01-24-2013, 07:10 PM

And Clemson will steal the second ncsu recruit in a week now as Marcus Edmond wil flip to clemson.

Edmond is one of the top two or three pure corners in the state of sc...but the significance here will be felt next year.

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

So much for the hemorrhaging... Hatcher recommitted to USC tonight and is done taking visits. Bigelow is expecteD to get clearance tomorrow for his early enrollment, but even if he doesn't, he will be at USC this year.

How can Bigelow get cleared for early enrollment when school started two weeks ago?

Are you getting Fitts and and Vanderdoes back? LaRue?

Eaglesfan27 · 01-24-2013, 07:45 PM

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How can Bigelow get cleared for early enrollment when school started two weeks ago?

Are you getting Fitts and and Vanderdoes back? LaRue?

Last day to start is tomorrow. If he isn't cleared by then, he has to wait for the next semester.

Larue hasn't been wanted at USC for a few months. I doubt Fitts will end up at USC either. Not enough Seniors graduated so there wasn't the expected EE slot for him. Vamderdoes is a 50-50 chance I think.

dawgfan · 01-24-2013, 09:40 PM

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Vamderdoes is a 50-50 chance I think.

You wish. He's probably no more than a 25% chance for USC right now.

Falah is 50/50 - there's a real chance Washington flips him.

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 09:45 PM

Ya. I dont count Special Ed out of anybody, but it would be a small surprise if Eddie V heads back to USC.

dawgfan · 01-24-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Ya. I dont count Special Ed out of anybody, but it would be a small surprise if Eddie V heads back to USC.

FWIW, Biggins thinks he stays west, and the talk on ESPN of Alabama being the leaders is ridiculous in his opinion. He thinks USC made up ground during his OV, that UCLA has been doing really well since his OV there, and that UW is recruiting him the hardest.

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 10:51 PM

ESPN is terrible at West Coast recruiting. Rivals does well, they need more dedicated west coast staffing.

ESPN has Isaac Savineaa(Some long Hawaiian name) as a three star and the drop came after he performed poorly in a 7-7. I'm not sure what is worse, basing recruiting rankings on 7-7 camps or worrying about an MLB in a 7-7 whose main asset is stopping the run.

dawgfan · 01-24-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

ESPN is terrible at West Coast recruiting. Rivals does well, they need more dedicated west coast staffing.

ESPN has Isaac Savineaa(Some long Hawaiian name) as a three star and the drop came after he performed poorly in a 7-7. I'm not sure what is worse, basing recruiting rankings on 7-7 camps or worrying about an MLB in a 7-7 whose main asset is stopping the run.

Not to mention they have Myles Jack as only the 6th best prospect out of Washington this year.

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 11:09 PM

What? Are you telling me that Peyton Pelluer isn't better than Jack?

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 11:12 PM

I've never heard of Aaron Zwahlen but he's ranked top 15 in the state of California

MrBug708 · 01-24-2013, 11:14 PM

I should say Isaac's drop was from Rivals, not ESPN

HomerSimpson98 · 01-25-2013, 04:26 PM

Looks like Larue is now an Aggie. Man, 2/6 can't get here fast enough. If we can close with Isaac Savaiinaea . . . .

BishopMVP · 01-25-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

Looks like Larue is now an Aggie. Man, 2/6 can't get here fast enough. If we can close with Isaac Savaiinaea . . . .

Did A&M have a few guys in their small-ish (19) recruiting class not qualify last year, allowing them to count all 8 EE's against last year's class, or are they already adopting SEC-style over-signing?

HomerSimpson98 · 01-25-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Did A&M have a few guys in their small-ish (19) recruiting class not qualify last year, allowing them to count all 8 EE's against last year's class, or are they already adopting SEC-style over-signing?

Yes sir. Actually we have 9 already in that are going against the 2012 numbers. We've also got 2 commits that likely won't get in due to grades and are probably headed the juco route. Due to attrition last year, we actually played under the 85-man limit last year and it looks like that is being made up for this year

Eaglesfan27 · 01-25-2013, 05:40 PM

Bigelow was cleared for early enrollment and will be at USC starting this weekend.

MrBug708 · 01-25-2013, 05:48 PM

Must be nice to have a compliant admissions department.

MrBug708 · 01-25-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Did A&M have a few guys in their small-ish (19) recruiting class not qualify last year, allowing them to count all 8 EE's against last year's class, or are they already adopting SEC-style over-signing?

You can have 25 guys enroll early, provided you have 25 scholarships to give in January. You can apply EE's to either the class before or their current class

cadmus2166 · 01-26-2013, 03:41 PM

5* RB Derrick Green to Michigan. Finally!! It seems like ages since we've had an elite RB recruit.

mckerney · 01-26-2013, 03:57 PM

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5* RB Derrick Green to Michigan. Finally!! It seems like ages since we've had an elite RB recruit.

And Braylon Edwards will still be angry about his brother not getting an offer.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-26-2013, 04:55 PM

Excited about Ezekiel Elliott being at the Mizzou game today. Would love to see the Tigers pull him away from Ohio State. His parents are both Mizzou alumni.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-26-2013, 06:16 PM

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5* RB Derrick Green to Michigan. Finally!! It seems like ages since we've had an elite RB recruit.

Awesome!

Matthean · 01-26-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cadmus2166

5* RB Derrick Green to Michigan. Finally!! It seems like ages since we've had an elite RB recruit.

Highest ranked since 2006. This is a huge fill of a need.

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Durham Smythe is the ex-Texas TE. Stanford is probably the current leader. (Maybe "complete flipping" is a better term than just "Flip", but I just found it notable that 4 of the 5 were/are committed to high-profile schools, and the other was supposedly always a huge USC lean.) Last edited by BishopMVP : 01-23-2013 at 03:58 PM.

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01-23-2013, 03:32 PM	#451
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	So, allegedly Vanderdoes, Fitts, Sebastian Larue, Deon Hollins and an-Texas TE commit will be visiting ND this Saturday... I wouldn't put us as the favorite for any one, but law of averages indicates we'll probably get at least one to flip.

01-23-2013, 04:45 PM	#455
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Tahaan Goodman to UCLA

01-23-2013, 06:24 PM	#461
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I'm pretty tame. Did get banned on ASUs site for the lamest reason

01-24-2013, 02:03 PM	#472
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Chief, you going to go to the BRO bash on SD

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Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Great piece: Mark Emmert, NCAA should embrace changes following Miami blunder - College Football - Andy Staples - SI.com

01-24-2013, 04:00 PM	#475
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I'm gonna head down. You are slighty further than I am from Westwood. Wish we have better public transit around here haha

01-24-2013, 07:10 PM	#479
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	And Clemson will steal the second ncsu recruit in a week now as Marcus Edmond wil flip to clemson. Edmond is one of the top two or three pure corners in the state of sc...but the significance here will be felt next year.

01-24-2013, 09:45 PM	#483
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Ya. I dont count Special Ed out of anybody, but it would be a small surprise if Eddie V heads back to USC.

01-24-2013, 10:51 PM	#485
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	ESPN is terrible at West Coast recruiting. Rivals does well, they need more dedicated west coast staffing. ESPN has Isaac Savineaa(Some long Hawaiian name) as a three star and the drop came after he performed poorly in a 7-7. I'm not sure what is worse, basing recruiting rankings on 7-7 camps or worrying about an MLB in a 7-7 whose main asset is stopping the run.

01-24-2013, 11:09 PM	#487
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	What? Are you telling me that Peyton Pelluer isn't better than Jack?

01-24-2013, 11:12 PM	#488
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I've never heard of Aaron Zwahlen but he's ranked top 15 in the state of California

01-24-2013, 11:14 PM	#489
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I should say Isaac's drop was from Rivals, not ESPN

01-25-2013, 04:26 PM	#490
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Looks like Larue is now an Aggie. Man, 2/6 can't get here fast enough. If we can close with Isaac Savaiinaea . . . .

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MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Must be nice to have a compliant admissions department.

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cadmus2166 Mascot Join Date: Mar 2012	5* RB Derrick Green to Michigan. Finally!! It seems like ages since we've had an elite RB recruit.

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