Trump Indictment/Trial thread-2023

[albionmoonlight]

I’m trying to think of what my reaction would have been in, say, 2002 to hear that in two decades a completely broke Mayor Rudy would be being booked on criminal charges in Georgia.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The emails showing contacts between the Secret Service and the Oathkeepers should be a major scandal.

Yes it should

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The emails showing contacts between the Secret Service and the Oathkeepers should be a major scandal.

Same. I also thought how many military and law enforcement that were caught up in J6 should have been a bigger story too. But I guess that overton window has shifted.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I’m trying to think of what my reaction would have been in, say, 2002 to hear that in two decades a completely broke Mayor Rudy would be being booked on criminal charges in Georgia.

I think people forget that Rudy came to power in New York by starting a race riot with his police supporters. He's always been a sketchy dude. 9/11 was the greatest thing to happen to him.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I think people forget that Rudy came to power in New York by starting a race riot with his police supporters. He's always been a sketchy dude. 9/11 was the greatest thing to happen to him.

I thought Giuliani became popular because be pledged to cleanse New York City of falsified non-fat frozen yogurt?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Same. I also thought how many military and law enforcement that were caught up in J6 should have been a bigger story too. But I guess that overton window has shifted.

Any veteran arrested and convicted for participating in J6 should have lost all VA benefits.

[RainMaker]

Tfw ur not worried because you know ur cousin won’t testify pic.twitter.com/hD05PQLkj7

— Prank Stallon (@theCJS) August 23, 2023

[Thomkal]

Judge denies both Meadows and Clark's motion to move to federal court. So maybe they can get a three for one mugshot tomorrow with Trump?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Judge denies both Meadows and Clark's motion to move to federal court. So maybe they can get a three for one mugshot tomorrow with Trump?

He refused to stop the arrest because they filed to move it to Federal court. Another judge is still going to make that decision. His ruling was that nothing stops in the state case while that decision is being made ie. it is not a way to stall an indictment.


edit: BTW, the hearing on the Meadows attempt to move the case is on Monday. Willis is supposed to call several witness that day. The who should be interesting.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

He refused to stop the arrest because they filed to move it to Federal court. Another judge is still going to make that decision. His ruling was that nothing stops in the state case while that decision is being made ie. it is not a way to stall an indictment.


edit: BTW, the hearing on the Meadows attempt to move the case is on Monday. Willis is supposed to call several witness that day. The who should be interesting.

thanks for the clarification Grant

[GrantDawg]

Trump changed attorneys in the Georgia case, and I know the new guy. Steve Sadow is a pretty big white collar defense attorney. I worked with him and his wife for a little while.

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[GrantDawg]

One of the defendants called for his right to a speedy trial and asked for a late October trial date. Degendants do that thinking they can catch the prosecuter unprepared. Fani said "let's go, bitch!"

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[GrantDawg]

The judge has agreed to the timetable. This filing only list Chesebro, who made the request. As far as I know there hasn't been an agreement to sever the trials. I do imagine that is going to happen, though. There are different charges on each defendant and some do not overlap.

Fulton Judge Scott McAfee laying out a very aggressive timetable for Chesebro's Fulton trial, with an Oct. 23, 2023 start date. pic.twitter.com/uqOmqzuHRc

— Tamar Hallerman (@TamarHallerman) August 24, 2023

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

One of the defendants called for his right to a speedy trial and asked for a late October trial date. Degendants do that thinking they can catch the prosecuter unprepared. Fani said "let's go, bitch!"

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And I saw Trump's lawyers immediately filed to separate his trial from that one so they can delay delay delay


Also Meadows and Clark lost their appeals and gave up and will be arrainged today/tomorrow

[GrantDawg]

There is only one of the 18 defendant that did not recieve bond and is sitting in the Fulton jail right now till Arraignment. Can you guess which one? If you said the only black defendant, you would be correct.

[GrantDawg]

6'3 215. And if you pull the other one, it plays jingle bells.

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[RainMaker]

That was Ali's fighting height and weight in his prime.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

6'3 215. And if you pull the other one, it plays jingle bells.

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Think I'll try this for my next Drivers license.

[Thomkal]

Too bad they can't add a perjury charge for that height and weight.



And /finally/ he's been arraigned for one of his crimes

[PilotMan]

He's 6'3", but 315 not 2. That's one hell of a lie.



Where's the Iraqi Minister of Truth for this one?

[bronconick]

His mugshot looks like Vigo from Ghostbusters 2

[CrimsonFox]

Seriously somewhere William Howard Taft is ecstatic that he will no longer be remembered as the fattest president

[CrimsonFox]

Dumptruck reactivated his twitter oops X account and posted his mugshot. Sic him!

Trump tweets mugshot in return to former Twitter platform X | Donald Trump | The Guardian

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Dumptruck reactivated his twitter oops X account and posted his mugshot. Sic him!

Trump tweets mugshot in return to former Twitter platform X | Donald Trump | The Guardian

The former president returned to the social media site, now known as X, with a post linking to his website and featuring the words “Election interference! Never surrender!” following his surrender at Fulton County jail on racketeering and conspiracy charges over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia.

I love great writing.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Seriously somewhere William Howard Taft is ecstatic that he will no longer be remembered as the fattest president

Taft was around 330 at the end of his presidency, but he also lost weight after leaving the Oval Office.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

He's 6'3", but 315 not 2. That's one hell of a lie.



Where's the Iraqi Minister of Truth for this one?

I'd love it for someone to ask him the secret to his losing 22 pounds since he left the WH.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The emails showing contacts between the Secret Service and the Oathkeepers should be a major scandal.

If I were Biden I'd ask everyone to apologize to my dog who bit a SS* agent.

*Yes, I did that on purpose

[albionmoonlight]

Not to get all serious, but in some ways, the obvious lie (215 lbs.) is much more of a power play move than a plausible lie (260 lbs.)

Being able to brazenly lie and not get called on it is a power move. It shows he is still above the law and norms and truth. He is still Dear Leader, and reality is still what he says it is. And who's going to stop him?

[PilotMan]

Look, this douche is so small, and so insecure, and so unwilling to face any sort of actual, honest fact, about anything, that he's willing to lie about his weight, in public, to the entire world. And he's making it so bald faced that it fits with literally everything else he's done since 2015 so it's just another thing.



I'd lie about my weight too, and guess what? I weigh 310. So if I came out and said I weighed 280 people may not care to even notice, and I could probably get away with it. But if I said I weighted 210, people would laugh their asses off at me, and if my response was to "mean mug" them, they'd laugh even harder.

The dedicated cult followers simply see the denial of the truth and law as a way to exert power and fulfill their own desires to avoid any responsibility, coupled with the desire to stick it to the man AND make everyone else bow to THE MAN.



I really have a hard time, telling anyone who is still willing to support this guy that they are complete and total fucking morons. I have some bridges I'm not willing to burn over it, but come the fuck on people. You wouldn't tolerate this shit from your own kid would you? Or your neighbor?



How can someone who never pays their bills, and who invites people to the White House for dinner then serves them McD's ever be held up as a great, smart, wonderful and loving person? I mean, the list is longer than that, but if my neighbor invited me to his house and did that, while I also knew that he never paid the kid who mowed his lawn all summer, I doubt that we'd ever speak again.

[Ghost Econ]

I have no problem telling them they're fucking idiots.

[Silver Owl]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

I really have a hard time, telling anyone who is still willing to support this guy that they are complete and total fucking morons. I have some bridges I'm not willing to burn over it, but come the fuck on people. You wouldn't tolerate this shit from your own kid would you? Or your neighbor?

I am going through this exact same thing with 2 of my sisters right now. At what point do I just let it go so I don't burn bridges when its a lost cause.
The back and forth with them on facebook this morning is mind blowing to me how much they adore this guy.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

6'3 215. And if you pull the other one, it plays jingle bells.

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"You're telling me my man doesn't pee or poop?!" #TheInterviewMovie pic.twitter.com/xlanCVMOGw

— Sony Pictures IRL 🎬 (@SonyPicturesIRL) February 3, 2015

[CrimsonFox]

Just leave this here

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...nances-1822417

[flere-imsaho]

I wonder if he'll stiff the bail bondsman, too.

[PilotMan]

I mean, you can't just have Putin pay your bail and not raise any red flags can you?

[PilotMan]

The reality is that he's a leverage machine. Anything to borrow and have as little outgoing as possible is where he's at. So if he only has to pay 20k, so what. I'm sure he's got enough to cover, it's that he would rather use leverage to pay for things than not. That way, he only paid 20 grand to get out of jail.

[albionmoonlight]

Yeah. A rich guy can afford to use his own money for things.

But he became a rich guy by never using his own money for things.

[GrantDawg]

Yeah, that's a nothing burger. I'm sure the $20k came out of his defense fund the suckers keep pouring money into and not out of his pocket anyway.

[Thomkal]

All 19 defendants have now surrendered in Atlanta

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Yeah. A rich guy can afford to use his own money for things.

But he became a rich guy by never using his own money for things.

But...trickle down economics

[JPhillips]

Joe Burrow is 6'4" and 215 lbs.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

The dedicated cult followers simply see the denial of the truth and law as a way to exert power and fulfill their own desires to avoid any responsibility, coupled with the desire to stick it to the man AND make everyone else bow to THE MAN.

This is probably the most succinct sentence I've seen to describe the movement.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

There is only one of the 18 defendant that did not recieve bond and is sitting in the Fulton jail right now till Arraignment. Can you guess which one? If you said the only black defendant, you would be correct.

Poor guy

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-23/index.html

Harrison Floyd, one of President Donald Trump's 18 co-defendants in the Georgia 2020 election subversion case, will remain in the Fulton County jail for now.

During his first appearance in court Friday afternoon, Judge Emily Richardson told Floyd that she would not be setting bond because Floyd had already been indicted and assigned to Judge Scott McAfee, who would address bond moving forward.

Richardson also informed Floyd of his rights and read the charges that he is facing during the brief virtual appearance.

“There are grounds for bond to be denied at this point,” Richardson said. “I’m going to go ahead and find that you are a risk to commit additional felonies and a potential risk to flee the jurisdiction. So I’m going to deny bond, but a full consideration of bond will be addressed” by Judge McAfee, who will preside over the case.

Don't know if this guy is playing games but you'd think he'd want an attorney to help him through this process. Had to look it up, the eligibility for a public defender is "... if the defendant lives alone, he or she would have to earn less than $16,335 to qualify for legal services." TBH this sounds a little low to me.

Floyd does not have representation and told the judge that he could not afford a private attorney. Richardson told Floyd he did not meet the eligibility requirements for obtaining a public defender. He appeared over video conference in a large, empty room dressed in a prison uniform.

[Thomkal]

Don't know anything about this guy except he is black-not sure otherwise why the judge thinks he's a flight risk and likely to commit more felonies, and the others weren't

[Edward64]

I think the Judge said at this stage, the bond discussions are with another Judge. So he kinda missed his chance by not negotiating a bond earlier in the week.

YT of his hearing today. The "no bond" is at about 5 min mark.

Harrison Floyd 'Black Voices for Trump' leader denied bond - YouTube


GA courts are going to be providing a lot of entertainment starting (hopefully) in Oct. It'll be a fascinating legal/civics (?) drama.

[PilotMan]

So apparently, GA state congressmen are planning to use a newly formed committee, signed into law by Kemp earlier this year, for the purpose of kicking out DA's they don't like who don't prosecute enough, to kick out Willis after it takes effect in October, because she is prosecuting someone they like. If they are successful, they will install a puppet who will drop all charges and all cases.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

So apparently, GA state congressmen are planning to use a newly formed committee, signed into law by Kemp earlier this year, for the purpose of kicking out DA's they don't like who don't prosecute enough, to kick out Willis after it takes effect in October, because she is prosecuting someone they like. If they are successful, they will install a puppet who will drop all charges and all cases.

Sounds like the Trump way.

[JPhillips]

Amazing how the word has gone out to ll the GOP pundits to proclaim that Trump will now win the black vote because blacks apparently love crime and celebrate criminals.

[Thomkal]

Stormy Daniels with the twitter win for best tweet about Donald's weight:


https://twitter.com/StormyDaniels/st...15271122428401

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Don't know anything about this guy except he is black-not sure otherwise why the judge thinks he's a flight risk and likely to commit more felonies, and the others weren't

I don't know the specifics but I saw that he assaulted a federal officer. Didn't see anything explaining what that assault was related to.