The 2010 MLB Season Thread - Page 109

Vince, Pt. II · 10-20-2010, 10:41 PM

I feel much better about buying that ticket for tomorrow's game now.

Also, how amazing is Buster Posey. 4 hit game, and his favorite part was the tag out at the plate.

kingfc22 · 10-20-2010, 10:41 PM

Another 1-run win for the Giants this post season.

1 more guys. Come on!

Torture has never felt so good.

Buccaneer · 10-20-2010, 10:42 PM

Woo hoo!!!

Bad-example · 10-20-2010, 10:43 PM

Great game.

jbergey22 · 10-20-2010, 10:43 PM

Excellent game. Best of the Playoffs thus far.

jbergey22 · 10-20-2010, 10:50 PM

The Giants fans have to be feeling good right now. Game 5 at home with arguably the best pitcher in baseball going in the clinching game. I dont think you could have asked for a better scenario for the Giants.

Crapshoot · 10-20-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Good game but hopefully tomorrow the umpires actually do their job better.

it was crap umpiring all around - I think we can all agree on that. With Halladay and Lincecum tomorrow - all we want is a consistent strike zone.

Crapshoot · 10-20-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The Giants fans have to be feeling good right now. Game 5 at home with arguably the best pitcher in baseball going in the clinching game. I dont think you could get a better scenario for the Giants.

Trust me, Giants fans don't feel that way. Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, and then it goes to Philly. If any team can lose 3 here, its us.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-20-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Trust me, Giants fans don't feel that way. Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, and then it goes to Philly. If any team can lose 3 here, its us.

Yeah, what he said. Having gone through torture all year, and knowing that our offense can be horribad at the drop of a hat, and knowing that even though we make every pitcher look like Roy Halladay...we're actually facing Roy Halladay tomorrow. And that is a terrifying prospect no matter who we have on the mound for ourselves.

kingfc22 · 10-20-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The Giants fans have to be feeling good right now. Game 5 at home with arguably the best pitcher in baseball going in the clinching game. I dont think you could have asked for a better scenario for the Giants.

I would say cautiously optimistic but the series played out exactly how we wanted. Game 5 at home with Timmy on the mound pitching for the pennant.

jbergey22 · 10-20-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Trust me, Giants fans don't feel that way. Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, and then it goes to Philly. If any team can lose 3 here, its us.

I dont think you'd trade Lincecum for any other pitcher

Athough yes a great case could be made for Halladay being the best as well. I like Lincecum in this spot however with his sometimes unhittable stuff in his home park the way he has pitched in the playoffs.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-20-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I dont think you'd trade Lincecum for any other pitcher

Athough yes a great case could be made for Halladay being the best as well. I like Lincecum in this spot however with his sometimes unhittable stuff in his home park the way he has pitched in the playoffs.

Heh. We wouldn't give him up for Cliff Lee if we were promised Lee would pitch every game as if he were in the playoffs. Timmy is OUR Freak, and we like him right where he is

EagleFan · 10-20-2010, 11:06 PM

What I don't like at this point is that the Giants are playing like they want it while the Phillies aren't. Hopefully that changes and we get a game seven out of this.... (not holding my breath though)

Too many dumb moves by the Phillies today. Rollins' last at bat was one of those things, you have to get Werth to 3rd even if it means giving yourself up as it would just be one out with him at third.

Oh well, the season isn't over unless they lose tomorrow. One game at a time.

jbergey22 · 10-20-2010, 11:11 PM

Speaking of Cliff Lee. Any theories on why it seems so many pitchers can outperform their regular season performance in the playoffs? Is it that these pitchers can become that much more sharp when the pressure is higher or is it that the hitters are so nervous at the plate they dont hit like they do during the regular season.

2 straight years after stuggling in August/early Sept Cliff Lee has been dominant and Lincecum now looks like the pitcher he was 2 years ago after being mediocre(by his standards) all year. Halladay pitches a no hitter in the first round and Cain looked as good as he has in awhile. It seems every year this happens in the playoffs and we get a lot of low scoring games.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-20-2010, 11:14 PM

Lincecum was amazing in April and in September, he was just awful in June and August.

The statistician in me wants to say that this success is small sample size, and I guess I really do deep down think that is the answer. It's tough though - Lee really does seem to be a different beast in the postseason.

Edit: Correction, horrible MAY and August.

March/April: 4-0, 1.27 ERA, 0.82 WHIP, .175 BAA, 6.14 K/BB
May: 1-2, 4.95 ERA, 1.54 WHIP, .244 BAA, 1.74 K/BB
August: 0-5, 7.82 ERA, 1.82 WHIP, .311 BAA, 2.08 K/BB
September: 5-1, 1.94 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, .201 BAA, 6.50 K/BB

June and July were pretty mediocre - 3.0X ERA, 1.35 WHIP, etc.

Crapshoot · 10-20-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

What I don't like at this point is that the Giants are playing like they want it while the Phillies aren't. Hopefully that changes and we get a game seven out of this.... (not holding my breath though)

Too many dumb moves by the Phillies today. Rollins' last at bat was one of those things, you have to get Werth to 3rd even if it means giving yourself up as it would just be one out with him at third.

Oh well, the season isn't over unless they lose tomorrow. One game at a time.

I don't know about that - I thought Howard's AB against a lefty that has given him the willies was amazing - and he ran like a guy wanted it. AT this point, I don't think effort is an issue - every guy on every team wants this.

RedKingGold · 10-20-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Speaking of Cliff Lee. Any theories on why it seems so many pitchers can outperform their regular season performance in the playoffs? Is it that these pitchers can become that much more sharp when the pressure is higher or is it that the hitters are so nervous at the plate they dont hit like they do during the regular season.

2 straight years after stuggling in August/early Sept Cliff Lee has been dominant and Lincecum now looks like the pitcher he was 2 years ago after being mediocre(by his standards) all year. Halladay pitches a no hitter in the first round and Cain looked as good as he has in awhile. It seems every year this happens in the playoffs and we get a lot of low scoring games.

Luck?

RedKingGold · 10-20-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Too many dumb moves by the Phillies today. Rollins' last at bat was one of those things, you have to get Werth to 3rd even if it means giving yourself up as it would just be one out with him at third.

This was inexcusable and the game was lost right then and there.

To me, the Game 3 loss was a better "loss". Both teams were evenly matched, both played well, and the Giants got a few more breaks than the Phillies. Tonight, however, the Phillies made stupid mental decisions in the dugout and in the field that will get absolutely crucified in tomorrow's local media...and deservedly so.

Crapshoot · 10-20-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

This was inexcusable and the game was lost right then and there.

Yeah, I didn't get that - unless Charlie had no faith in Francisco (in which case, why not get Ibanez up against a RHP? Erik Hinske had fun against Romo).

jbergey22 · 10-20-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Luck?

Well I like the sample size answer but it seems like something else. As a betting person I know enough to take unders in all the playoff games and you will come out ahead. Eventually the books start lowering the totals to 6.5/7 which we seldom see during regular season games. Hell I even seen the first 5.5 run total of my life in game 1 of the Giants/Phils series.

My theories are
1. Hitter nerves
2. Weather conditions
3. Deeper Bullpens
4. Better starting pitchers can play with hitters heads as they know they are being aggressive under playoff conditions

Athough Im interested in other peoples thoughts on this.

Lathum · 10-20-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Speaking of Cliff Lee. Any theories on why it seems so many pitchers can outperform their regular season performance in the playoffs? Is it that these pitchers can become that much more sharp when the pressure is higher or is it that the hitters are so nervous at the plate they dont hit like they do during the regular season.

2 straight years after stuggling in August/early Sept Cliff Lee has been dominant and Lincecum now looks like the pitcher he was 2 years ago after being mediocre(by his standards) all year. Halladay pitches a no hitter in the first round and Cain looked as good as he has in awhile. It seems every year this happens in the playoffs and we get a lot of low scoring games.

I think it is focus. Lets not forget they are human beings. Just like us they get bored, tired, suffer from tedium, etc...

It is probably hard to get up for a day game in 110 degree heat against the Royals when your team is 10 games ahead in the standings. Getting up for game 5 of the wildcard, not so tough.

MrBug708 · 10-21-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Out of curiousity, what would you do if it ended up Giants Yankees? I assume Yanks?

I have no problems with Yankees

spleen1015 · 10-21-2010, 08:59 AM

See how easily the Yankees won yesterday? That can easily do that 2 more times...

ugh.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

See how easily the Yankees won yesterday? That can easily do that 2 more times...

ugh.

Yeah, you dont really want them bats to catch fire like they did yesterday. Texas is a great home team though.

RomaGoth · 10-21-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

It seems every year this happens in the playoffs and we get a lot of low scoring games.

Unless you are hitting against the fantastic Yankee pitching. No low scoring games yet in the ALCS.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 06:49 PM

No return trip to Philly please!

BishopMVP · 10-21-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Speaking of Cliff Lee. Any theories on why it seems so many pitchers can outperform their regular season performance in the playoffs? Is it that these pitchers can become that much more sharp when the pressure is higher or is it that the hitters are so nervous at the plate they dont hit like they do during the regular season.

2 straight years after stuggling in August/early Sept Cliff Lee has been dominant and Lincecum now looks like the pitcher he was 2 years ago after being mediocre(by his standards) all year. Halladay pitches a no hitter in the first round and Cain looked as good as he has in awhile. It seems every year this happens in the playoffs and we get a lot of low scoring games.

I really do think the cold weather plays a big role. I'm not going to run MLB numbers, but I know I've seen Eastern League (AA) splits where it's known that games in Portland, New Hamshire, etc strongly favor the pitchers the first month+. I think I've said it before, but it's one of my dislikes of baseball's postseason - you shouldn't play the championship of the sport in conditions the sport wasn't made for. Ironically it's football that ensures a warm weather/dome final while baseball which is a summer sport often sees its biggest games played in abnormal, freezing conditions. I don't know what could be done to rectify it - clearly the number of regular season games or playoff rounds isn't going to drop, the owners seem set against day/night doubleheaders as a regular part of the schedule, and they require prime-time games for TV purposes. Luckily 2 of the 4 teams left are non-EST, but some of the Red Sox/Yankees/Phillies home games starting at 8pm and ending past midnight were brutal.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 07:36 PM

Who are these guys? Halladay has already had to throw 43 pitches thru 2 as the Giants continue to work the count.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2010, 07:42 PM

Great umpin again! Wow, how do they miss that. Clearly foul.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2010, 07:43 PM

Nice frikin defense Huff.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 07:47 PM

Giants making a defensive mockery out of this inning.

RedKingGold · 10-21-2010, 07:54 PM

Just gotta hope three runs is enough for Halladay.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Just gotta hope three runs is enough for Halladay.

Its probably enough for him but will he make is past the 6th inning with all of these pitches he is throwing?

RedKingGold · 10-21-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Its probably enough for him but will he make is past the 6th inning with all of these pitches he is throwing?

Normal rest + last game if we're eliminated + last start for 6 days IF we win the series = 130 pitches are possible.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 08:16 PM

Halladay and Lincecum are both not very sharp tonight.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 08:18 PM

What a throw by Werth. Poor base running by Ross as he scores on a hit with 2 out.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 08:30 PM

Apparently the balls have been programmed to dodge the gloves of first baseman tonight.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-21-2010, 09:25 PM

Running out of outs...

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Running out of outs...

Yep. Too many missed chances and the third inning was a very poor defensive effort.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 09:46 PM

Giants are overdue for a HR...

Dr. Sak · 10-21-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Giants are overdue for a HR...

I think the same can be said for the Phils

Dr. Sak · 10-21-2010, 09:50 PM

For the love of Jesus Christ and everything holy, please don't put in Lidge in the 9th. My heart can't take the strain.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 09:51 PM

Damn he just dominated those 3 batters.

RedKingGold · 10-21-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

For the love of Jesus Christ and everything holy, please don't put in Lidge in the 9th. My heart can't take the strain.

You kill yourself with the sword that brought you here.

Dr. Sak · 10-21-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

You kill yourself with the sword that brought you here.

I'd rather see if we can squeeze a few more outs out of Madson

Vince, Pt. II · 10-21-2010, 09:54 PM

You hold the Phillies to 4 hits, you gotta win the game. Can't help but feel like they gave this one away. And now Werth goes yard, great.

RedKingGold · 10-21-2010, 09:54 PM

Thank you Mr. Werth.

Dr. Sak · 10-21-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I think the same can be said for the Phils

RedKingGold · 10-21-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I'd rather see if we can squeeze a few more outs out of Madson

Oh, I agree. I'm just saying what's going through Cholly's cooky mind.

kingfc22 · 10-21-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I think the same can be said for the Phils

Well played sir.

10-20-2010, 10:41 PM	#5402
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Another 1-run win for the Giants this post season. 1 more guys. Come on! Torture has never felt so good. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-20-2010, 10:43 PM	#5404
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	Great game. __________________ Karaoke Katie drove the crowd wild Every time she'd sing they'd come in for miles Curtain came up, Katie came on Drinking like a lumberjack and singing Delta Dawn

10-20-2010, 10:43 PM	#5405
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Excellent game. Best of the Playoffs thus far. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-20-2010 at 10:54 PM.

10-20-2010, 10:50 PM	#5406
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	The Giants fans have to be feeling good right now. Game 5 at home with arguably the best pitcher in baseball going in the clinching game. I dont think you could have asked for a better scenario for the Giants. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-20-2010 at 10:54 PM.

10-20-2010, 11:06 PM	#5413
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	What I don't like at this point is that the Giants are playing like they want it while the Phillies aren't. Hopefully that changes and we get a game seven out of this.... (not holding my breath though) Too many dumb moves by the Phillies today. Rollins' last at bat was one of those things, you have to get Werth to 3rd even if it means giving yourself up as it would just be one out with him at third. Oh well, the season isn't over unless they lose tomorrow. One game at a time. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

10-20-2010, 10:41 PM	#5401
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	I feel much better about buying that ticket for tomorrow's game now. Also, how amazing is Buster Posey. 4 hit game, and his favorite part was the tag out at the plate.

10-20-2010, 10:42 PM	#5403
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Woo hoo!!!

10-20-2010, 11:11 PM	#5414
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Speaking of Cliff Lee. Any theories on why it seems so many pitchers can outperform their regular season performance in the playoffs? Is it that these pitchers can become that much more sharp when the pressure is higher or is it that the hitters are so nervous at the plate they dont hit like they do during the regular season. 2 straight years after stuggling in August/early Sept Cliff Lee has been dominant and Lincecum now looks like the pitcher he was 2 years ago after being mediocre(by his standards) all year. Halladay pitches a no hitter in the first round and Cain looked as good as he has in awhile. It seems every year this happens in the playoffs and we get a lot of low scoring games. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-20-2010 at 11:12 PM.

10-20-2010, 11:14 PM	#5415
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Lincecum was amazing in April and in September, he was just awful in June and August. The statistician in me wants to say that this success is small sample size, and I guess I really do deep down think that is the answer. It's tough though - Lee really does seem to be a different beast in the postseason. Edit: Correction, horrible MAY and August. March/April: 4-0, 1.27 ERA, 0.82 WHIP, .175 BAA, 6.14 K/BB May: 1-2, 4.95 ERA, 1.54 WHIP, .244 BAA, 1.74 K/BB August: 0-5, 7.82 ERA, 1.82 WHIP, .311 BAA, 2.08 K/BB September: 5-1, 1.94 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, .201 BAA, 6.50 K/BB June and July were pretty mediocre - 3.0X ERA, 1.35 WHIP, etc. Last edited by Vince, Pt. II : 10-20-2010 at 11:23 PM.

10-21-2010, 08:59 AM	#5423
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	See how easily the Yankees won yesterday? That can easily do that 2 more times... ugh.

10-21-2010, 06:49 PM	#5426
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	No return trip to Philly please! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 07:36 PM	#5428
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Who are these guys? Halladay has already had to throw 43 pitches thru 2 as the Giants continue to work the count. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 07:42 PM	#5429
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Great umpin again! Wow, how do they miss that. Clearly foul.

10-21-2010, 07:43 PM	#5430
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Nice frikin defense Huff.

10-21-2010, 07:47 PM	#5431
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Giants making a defensive mockery out of this inning. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 07:54 PM	#5432
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Just gotta hope three runs is enough for Halladay.

10-21-2010, 08:16 PM	#5435
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Halladay and Lincecum are both not very sharp tonight. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 08:18 PM	#5436
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	What a throw by Werth. Poor base running by Ross as he scores on a hit with 2 out. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 08:30 PM	#5437
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Apparently the balls have been programmed to dodge the gloves of first baseman tonight. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 09:25 PM	#5438
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Running out of outs...

10-21-2010, 09:46 PM	#5440
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Giants are overdue for a HR... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 09:50 PM	#5442
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	For the love of Jesus Christ and everything holy, please don't put in Lidge in the 9th. My heart can't take the strain.

10-21-2010, 09:51 PM	#5443
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Damn he just dominated those 3 batters. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-21-2010, 09:54 PM	#5446
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	You hold the Phillies to 4 hits, you gotta win the game. Can't help but feel like they gave this one away. And now Werth goes yard, great.

10-21-2010, 09:54 PM	#5447
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Thank you Mr. Werth.

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