Soccer Thread 2022-2023 - Page 11

Ghost Econ · 12-09-2022, 11:51 AM

Anyone else forget the World Cup was back this morning?

Remembered 10 minutes ago and turned it on. Saw it was Croatia and realized I wasn't missing anything.

Ksyrup · 12-09-2022, 12:13 PM

Ghost Econ · 12-09-2022, 12:14 PM

The one time Neymar doesn't flop, he scores.

Critch · 12-09-2022, 12:29 PM

sovereignstar v2 · 12-09-2022, 12:30 PM

3rd pic needed

Ksyrup · 12-09-2022, 12:34 PM

sovereignstar v2 · 12-09-2022, 12:46 PM

Croatian players have ice in their veins

Ksyrup · 12-09-2022, 12:51 PM

So nice when rooting for chaos and against the most egregious floppers coalesces.

Lathum · 12-09-2022, 12:54 PM

That game made me really happy I sprung for the WiFi on this flight to Vegas.

Ksyrup · 12-09-2022, 02:37 PM

"Netherlands is not going to get beat in the middle."

5 minutes later...

sovereignstar v2 · 12-09-2022, 02:48 PM

Mark Clattenburg Mk 2 reffing the 2nd match today

miami_fan · 12-09-2022, 02:59 PM

I just turned on the Argentina v Netherlands match. Most players would not have tried that Messi pass for the goal in a FIFA video game of World Cup. Amazing.

Ksyrup · 12-09-2022, 04:03 PM

Argentina has shown absolutely zero chill after going up 2 and I hope they complete the collapse.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-09-2022, 04:04 PM

what a play off of the free kick

RainMaker · 12-09-2022, 04:07 PM

A fairly entertaining day so far.

Solecismic · 12-09-2022, 04:25 PM

I wonder if the Argentinian soccer academies have special classes in which players are trained to dive. It's like they don't even need an opponent around to get a foul called. Watching this match is a bit like watching a Monty Python skit.

MIJB#19 · 12-09-2022, 07:01 PM

Despite the sensational comeback and the curious refereeing, over 120+ mins Argentina was the better team. I was disappointed in the outcome, but I was also entertained. In 2026 there will be a new opportunity. If our team gets through the qualifiers first.

cartman · 12-09-2022, 08:13 PM

two incredible games today

GrantDawg · 12-09-2022, 09:20 PM

Holy shit. Grant Wahl died while covering the Argentina-Netherlands match today.

Edit: His brother is saying he was possibly murder.

RainMaker · 12-09-2022, 09:21 PM

WTF. Only 48 years old and looked to be in good shape.

GrantDawg · 12-09-2022, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker

WTF. Only 48 years old and looked to be in good shape.

He was kicked out of a match and detained earlier in the tournament because of his rainbow shirt. After which he was getting death threats. He had just posted an article last night critical of the Qatar government on the death of the workers used to build the venues. Now, he is suddenly dead.

miami_fan · 12-09-2022, 10:12 PM

American soccer journalist Grant Wahl dies at 48 in Qatar

miami_fan · 12-09-2022, 10:16 PM

I have always enjoyed his coverage of the game.

RIP

Ksyrup · 12-09-2022, 10:22 PM

WTF?

I wonder if they or the US have been successful in getting custody of his body.

RainMaker · 12-09-2022, 10:41 PM

I guess he had been dealing with an illness for a few weeks. Checked into a hospital a few days ago. Theh had said it was bronchitis.

Probably one of those shitty situations where he was sick and should not have been working but couldn't skip such an important event.

molson · 12-10-2022, 12:54 AM

It never occurred to me to that Bill Bellichick was Croatian - his grandparents were Croatian immigrants and had the name Bilicic. Anyway, he showed some rare outward enthusiasm over the game yesterday.

whomario · 12-10-2022, 04:15 AM

Enjoyed his coverage as well and been following for ages on Twitter, sad day

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I guess he had been dealing with an illness for a few weeks. Checked into a hospital a few days ago. Theh had said it was bronchitis.

Probably one of those shitty situations where he was sick and should not have been working but couldn't skip such an important event.

What would makes this (unproven but plausible) scenario more frustrating : his wife is a well known (part of Bidens Covid transition team) infectious disease specialist. Just utterly befuddling to take such a risk with that presumably existing knowledge base about how infectious diseases and stress go together (not). Though perhaps less surprising considering american attitude when it comes to work/illness on a societal level ...

sovereignstar v2 · 12-10-2022, 11:58 AM

Ksyrup · 12-10-2022, 11:58 AM

Once again, another unfortunate result. Especially for Ronaldo. I really feel bad for him.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-10-2022, 12:02 PM

You feel bad for Ronaldo?

bhlloy · 12-10-2022, 12:13 PM

Yeah, feel awful for the guy who has been such an unlikeable prick that he alienated his club and his national coach in a couple of months. There’s about 7 billion people I feel bad for before poor baby Cristiano.

flere-imsaho · 12-10-2022, 01:24 PM

I'm basically the same age as Wahl and have been reading his stuff on soccer for my entire adult life. Easily the best American soccer writer, IMO. Huge loss, and I feel terrible for his family.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-10-2022, 02:18 PM

That's a god damn foul

Edit: Saka was mauled shortly before France's goal

sovereignstar v2 · 12-10-2022, 02:27 PM

This ref is pants

Solecismic · 12-10-2022, 02:33 PM

Seems England has some legitimate grievance here. Why have VAR if it can't be used effectively? Is a situation like the foul before the goal even reviewable as part of the VAR process the way they do with offsides?

sovereignstar v2 · 12-10-2022, 02:35 PM

Yes, as far as I know that could've been reviewed and overturned. Since they showed a replay of the foul a bit ago it shows they know it'll be a big talking point. They will analyze it at halftime.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-10-2022, 02:58 PM

I guess I overestimated the competence of the Fox production as they decided to not even mention it during the break.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-10-2022, 03:34 PM

Ksyrup · 12-10-2022, 03:41 PM

Ridiculous no-call on a possible penalty. It was clear in real time and that ref should be benched for not calling it.

miami_fan · 12-10-2022, 03:43 PM

VAR! VAR!

Ksyrup · 12-10-2022, 03:44 PM

MIJB#19 · 12-10-2022, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

This ref is pants

Even worse than the one that made a complete mess of the Netherlands - Argentina match? Sure, both teams were unsportsmanlike, but it's quite an achievement to make Lionel Messi feel like the referee was bribed in a match where Messi himself should have been sent off and scored a penalty that was quite dubiously given.

MIJB#19 · 12-10-2022, 03:47 PM

Harry Kane, oh my!

bhlloy · 12-10-2022, 03:49 PM

The refereeing at this tournament has been incredibly poor. But dear lord, France is doing their best to implode and England just can’t twist the screw.

Ksyrup · 12-10-2022, 03:57 PM

I don't really care who wins but I was hoping for another hours' worth of drama.

Ghost Econ · 12-10-2022, 03:59 PM

Let Maguire take this free kick!!!!!

GrantDawg · 12-10-2022, 05:40 PM

FRANCE ACCEPTS THE CHALLENGE. THE BATTLE OF TOURS RECOMMENCES WEDNESDAY. It only took 1,290 years. — Rany Jazayerli (@jazayerli) December 10, 2022

Edward64 · 12-10-2022, 05:47 PM

Hah, that is fantastic tongue-in-cheek jabs. I do hope this is a friendly match

Karlifornia · 12-11-2022, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

Let Maguire take this free kick!!!!!

I Think Rashford was a good choice for the free kick, considering the absolute belter he hit against Wales from pretty much the same spot.

miami_fan · 12-11-2022, 07:49 PM

We wondered why Gio didn't play more? Here is why he did not play more

Report: Gio Reyna's Lack of Effort at USMNT Training Resulted in World Cup Benching | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

12-09-2022, 12:13 PM	#502
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	WOW __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-09-2022, 12:34 PM	#506
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Ha! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-09-2022, 12:51 PM	#508
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	So nice when rooting for chaos and against the most egregious floppers coalesces. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-09-2022, 02:37 PM	#510
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	"Netherlands is not going to get beat in the middle." 5 minutes later... __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-09-2022, 02:59 PM	#512
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I just turned on the Argentina v Netherlands match. Most players would not have tried that Messi pass for the goal in a FIFA video game of World Cup. Amazing. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-09-2022, 11:51 AM	#501
Ghost Econ College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2020	Anyone else forget the World Cup was back this morning? Remembered 10 minutes ago and turned it on. Saw it was Croatia and realized I wasn't missing anything.

12-09-2022, 12:14 PM	#503
Ghost Econ College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2020	The one time Neymar doesn't flop, he scores.

12-09-2022, 12:29 PM	#504
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA

12-09-2022, 12:30 PM	#505
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	3rd pic needed

12-09-2022, 12:46 PM	#507
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Croatian players have ice in their veins

12-09-2022, 12:54 PM	#509
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	That game made me really happy I sprung for the WiFi on this flight to Vegas.

12-09-2022, 02:48 PM	#511
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Mark Clattenburg Mk 2 reffing the 2nd match today

12-09-2022, 04:03 PM	#513
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Argentina has shown absolutely zero chill after going up 2 and I hope they complete the collapse. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-09-2022, 04:04 PM	#514
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	what a play off of the free kick

12-09-2022, 04:07 PM	#515
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	A fairly entertaining day so far.

12-09-2022, 04:25 PM	#516
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I wonder if the Argentinian soccer academies have special classes in which players are trained to dive. It's like they don't even need an opponent around to get a foul called. Watching this match is a bit like watching a Monty Python skit.

12-09-2022, 07:01 PM	#517
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Despite the sensational comeback and the curious refereeing, over 120+ mins Argentina was the better team. I was disappointed in the outcome, but I was also entertained. In 2026 there will be a new opportunity. If our team gets through the qualifiers first. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

12-09-2022, 08:13 PM	#518
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	two incredible games today __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

12-09-2022, 09:20 PM	#519
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Holy shit. Grant Wahl died while covering the Argentina-Netherlands match today. Edit: His brother is saying he was possibly murder. Last edited by GrantDawg : 12-09-2022 at 09:21 PM.

12-09-2022, 09:21 PM	#520
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	WTF. Only 48 years old and looked to be in good shape.

12-09-2022, 10:12 PM	#522
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	American soccer journalist Grant Wahl dies at 48 in Qatar __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-09-2022, 10:16 PM	#523
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I have always enjoyed his coverage of the game. RIP __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

12-09-2022, 10:22 PM	#524
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	WTF? I wonder if they or the US have been successful in getting custody of his body. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-09-2022, 10:41 PM	#525
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I guess he had been dealing with an illness for a few weeks. Checked into a hospital a few days ago. Theh had said it was bronchitis. Probably one of those shitty situations where he was sick and should not have been working but couldn't skip such an important event.

12-10-2022, 12:54 AM	#526
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	It never occurred to me to that Bill Bellichick was Croatian - his grandparents were Croatian immigrants and had the name Bilicic. Anyway, he showed some rare outward enthusiasm over the game yesterday.

12-10-2022, 11:58 AM	#528
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Wow

12-10-2022, 11:58 AM	#529
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Once again, another unfortunate result. Especially for Ronaldo. I really feel bad for him. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-10-2022, 12:02 PM	#530
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	You feel bad for Ronaldo?

12-10-2022, 12:13 PM	#531
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeah, feel awful for the guy who has been such an unlikeable prick that he alienated his club and his national coach in a couple of months. There’s about 7 billion people I feel bad for before poor baby Cristiano.

12-10-2022, 01:24 PM	#532
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I'm basically the same age as Wahl and have been reading his stuff on soccer for my entire adult life. Easily the best American soccer writer, IMO. Huge loss, and I feel terrible for his family.

12-10-2022, 02:18 PM	#533
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	That's a god damn foul Edit: Saka was mauled shortly before France's goal Last edited by sovereignstar v2 : 12-10-2022 at 02:21 PM.

12-10-2022, 02:27 PM	#534
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	This ref is pants

12-10-2022, 02:33 PM	#535
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Seems England has some legitimate grievance here. Why have VAR if it can't be used effectively? Is a situation like the foul before the goal even reviewable as part of the VAR process the way they do with offsides?

12-10-2022, 02:35 PM	#536
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Yes, as far as I know that could've been reviewed and overturned. Since they showed a replay of the foul a bit ago it shows they know it'll be a big talking point. They will analyze it at halftime.

12-10-2022, 02:58 PM	#537
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	I guess I overestimated the competence of the Fox production as they decided to not even mention it during the break.