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If you are playing a game via message board, then yes, you have to realize that every thing you say can, will and should be taken as fair game for analysis.......whether it is a slip of the fingers or not. That aside, I never said that I was going to vote for you because you said "I" instead of "we" in that sentence (actually I guess I already have voted for you, but that's not the point now. ). What I was asking you to do was to explain the comment a little more for me, because even if we set aside the I/we thing it came off as curious: You are saying in that clip that if everything stays as it is with the three-way standoff between you, Lathum and I that there is no way you can be on the winning side. That didn't make sense to me, none of us are lynched yet....if you are the wolf though then it does make a little more sense. But if you're really begging for me to vote for you, I guess I can keep my vote where it is....
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As a dola to that, and because I don't want Spleen to think I'm picking on him, I think where we're really at right now is that we have a 2/3 shot of picking the wrong person and losing the game, and none of us seem to have anything more than a guess as to who the wolf really is. Sometimes this game really is a crapshoot.
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01-30-2007, 04:05 PM | #504 |
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I just saw this. Yes, that would certainly have been one of those times.
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So right now we're at:
Spleen 2 -- Path, Lathum Lathum 1 -- Spleen DC still to vote. Right?
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Dola, so the comment about Spleen not being able to win makes a little more sense. For some reason I thought we were 1-1-1 on votes at that time.
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I'm kinda busy IRL and don't wanna forget to vote:
*sigh* Vote Spleen It's funny how one day spleen seems to have set Lathum up and now Lathum seems to have set spleen up pretty good (kinda like he did LSG). Dang... that's another thing. Ugh I don't feel 100% about this. Actually, I wouldn't feel 100% about anyone else but me. |
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I'll be on and off from now until lynch and this vote is definitely not set in stone.
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01-30-2007, 04:28 PM | #510 |
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UNVOTE SPLEEN
I've been reading back a bit through the thread. Have to run for a bit, want to come back to it later.
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Can anyone explain to me why DC could not have been converted?
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I was sitting around pondering the fact that Saldana was killed last night instead of DC, and then I saw this. Hmmmm......
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And this was the day before BK was killed.
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Path- I have gone over and over the issue with DT's trust list. I realize he had me ans Spleen on that list. I also pointed out that he voted for Spleen which means there is no way he scanned him and came up good
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Yeah, but the thing is that I don't think he scanned you, either.
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If you're bad and you think that Saldana is coming after you tomorrow, I think it's a really easy call.
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And dola, I don't think the thing about the Barkeep post was the fact that he was referring to DT's trust list. I just find it interesting that the last two people night killed were either getting wary about you (in Barkeep's case) or were going to trust your logic but if LSG came up good was (I assume) going after you the next day.
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Path, you have played in more then enough of these game to know when player A says to player B "if you are wrong I'm coming for you tomorrow" then player A turns up dead it is just as likely a set up kill. Once you say you are going to come at someone you immedeatly put a target on your back. |
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Maybe so.....it's a 50/50 shot for me today. But I've got to say right now that going back, I'm getting a worse feeling from your posts than Spleen's.
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I don't know who he scanned. I'll ask him after the game. He included you as elevated trust I believe because a) he liked your analysis of the Blade move day 1; and b) the fact that you were nearly the only one early who was putting a lot of stuff out there. Which as we all know is a little bit of a changeup for you (though I understand you said you were able to focus and had some more time with this game than normally). It is also the best way to drive conversation the way you want it to though, isn't it?
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I have no idea how you come to that conclusion. It was spleen who tried to gey me to out the seer. It was spleen who tried to get us to tie it up. It was spleen who voted you today, then when that didn't catch switched to me. It is spleen who has repeatidly tried to make me look bad, like when he said I never said anything about killing DC then I point out that I brought it up 4 posts before he did. Or spleen saying I was the only one who knew who the seer was then BK and Saldana both saying they thought DT was obviously it. |
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Let's say Spleen is the wolf. What possible motivation does he have to kill the player who says he will go after you tomorrow? He doesn't. He knows he just has one more day to get through........he kills the known good (DC) because he knows that Sal is more likely to target you based of the LSG lynch. That makes much more sense than leaving you alive as a setup (especially since you and he have gone at it all game) I don't buy this argument at all. It makes much more sense to me if you're the wolf. As a matter of fact, I think I just convinced myself for now: VOTE LATHUM If I'm wrong and lose the game for us, I owe you a beer.
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I phrased that argument wrong above.
That makes much more sense than leaving you alive as a setup should read That makes much more sense than the thought of him killing Sal to set you up
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path, you just forced a tie and are forcing DC to lose the game for us. IF DT DIDN"T SCAN ME THEN WHY DIDN"T HE PUT WHO HE DID SCAN ON HIS TRUSTED LIST? Maybe spleen left DT alive because he fhought I could convince saldana, or convince you? |
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Path, I am astounded at how many signs point to me being good yet you are voting for me, thus forcing DC to switch to me. If we weren't so late in the game I would say you are the last wolf making a bold play.
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path= turncoat
spleen= hornsmaniac DC= skydog Lathum=villager it would make sense for Path to make that play with that role, and with no conversion it is possible there was a turncoat in place. It would allso make sense for Path to question DC's possible conversion. |
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or spleen is the turncoat ( would explain his behavior) and path is the last wolf.
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Path, how many more examplaes do I have to give that spleen has made moves only a bad guy will make!
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Well, I dunno anymore. There are a lot of things going through my head and some of them are REEEEEEEAAAAAAALLLLLLYYYYY out there.
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path- not to mention if I was the last wolf would I point out the hole in Spleens "lets create a tie" strategy. No I would have gone along with it then stabbed you in the back ay 9:59. *shakes head*
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Lathum, it just doesn't make sense any other way.
Here's my breakdown: I know I'm good. DC -- we know she started off good. If there was a conversion there'd be two wolves. Plus she's never been a wolf and I would expect a change in her style if she was converted (we all have had to deal with that the first time we're bad). Spleen -- There is absolutely no reason, if Spleen is bad, that you are still alive. Give me a reason that he kills both Barkeep and Saldana ahead of you (and don't use the setup ploy, it fails Occam's Razor). You are the one that has been vocal against Spleen from day 2, not Barkeep and Saldana. If Spleen is bad, he kills you as the main voice against him, kills DC the next night and then pushes for me as being bad for being UTR. You're the one who is left. You're my vote.
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That reminds me. We should have a 3-1 vote here, kids. Anything else lets the wolf tie it up.
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Spleen has been vocal against me since day 2. Maybe spleen wants insurance that saldana, you or DC wouldn't turn on him so he kept me around just in case.
All I am saying is there are alot of reasons spleen is bad, yet I am the only one who the seer had on his trusted list. maybe he had inexpierience being a bad guy and made the wrong move, I dunno. All I know is I am not the last wolf and we are going to lose the game because you are over thinking the game |
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Path a tie hurts the last wolf. That gives him a bigger chance of being killer tomorrow. at this point I would be a fan of a tie since I know lynching me loses the game for us. I gotta be honest, you have made some very suspiscous moves the last hour |
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Both you and Spleen had elevated trust. DT had an early vote on Spleen, I know. That's why I don't think either of you were scanned. But you had elevated trust, you weren't on the "trusted" list. That was Barkeep and Blade. It could be that I'm losing the game for us, I don't think I am but it's certainly possible.......and if so I'll man up, say "my bad", congratulate Spleen (or DC) on fooling me and move on. We'll see how it goes.
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OMG dude. Didn't you read the part where I made it obvious to everyone that there is no way spleen was scanned since DT voted for him? |
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Spleen and DC. Do you see anyway Path could be the last wolf, I know I am not so I would like to discuss other possibilities before we lose the game.
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I mentioned that in the post you quoted, so yes, I did notice that. That does not negate the fact that AFTER that he listed you both with elevated trust.
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I can see how either you or path could be the wolf. You're just more suspicious to me, therefore have my vote.
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I don't know why he keeps bringing that up. No one has questioned whether or not DT scanned me, so I don't see why it is so important. |
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regardless, he never would have voted spleen. And for that matter he listed you as someone he didn't trust also. I don't have the energy for this discussion. I've had it 5 times this game already |
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Tell the truth, I haven't been happy with my play at all this game.
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Heh. I suspect Spleen is holding his breath in case I change my mind yet again.
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I don't know if there is anything else to be said right now that hasn't been said already.
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Heading home soon. I should be back sometime before deadline.
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As of this point, it is a tie, 2-2. If it remains this way, there is no banning for the Day cycle.
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