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hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

OMG someone say something!

No doubt - I'm not sure what has been going on this game in terms of the non-posting by a bunch of players but it has been pretty strange.

JAG · 11-13-2009, 10:16 AM

VOTE DT

I think there's a chance DT and lerriuqs are both wolves personally.

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 11:12 AM

a wolf? who's a wolf?

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 11:13 AM

I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that both Lerriuqs and DT were involved in a close vote yesterday yet neither one of them has posted since the Scotty event yesterday. You would think that if they had some kind of role that they might choose to reveal that info rather than have us go down the path towards lynching them again today.

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 11:14 AM

I stand corrected, DT has now posted while I was in the middle of crafting post #504.

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 11:24 AM

OK, time to work up a trust list. Mainly to work through my own thoughts, but I won't mind if it gets at least a little bit of conversation going in this thread. This is an interesting exercise without any meaningful voting records so far.

Absolute trust - me (duh)

Some trust:
1. JAG - he brought up Scotty issue in thread earlier, does not seem like it makes sense for wolves to advertise what they might do later. Also did not seem locked into KWhit vs Hoops on Day 2, when wolves would have been happy to have two non-wolves in the vote showdown.
2. Jackal - seems to have been more trusting of me than the average bear. I suppose this could be read multiple ways since the wolves know I'm a villager, but for today I'm giving him a pass in terms of critical review.
3. Schmidty - claimed vanilla villager early on, so far all of the others who have done so and died have in fact been vanilla villagers. Along same lines of Jackal, I just think there are better candidates for today.

Some distrust:
1. Darth Vilus - KWhit voted for me over him on Day 2, and KWhit knows the wolves. My impressions of DV as a villager is that he has an agenda, but his posts up to this point don't seem like he is, to paraphrase OJ, "looking for the real killers"
2. Dubb - I get the sense that he really does not have time for this. Low post count, lack of visibility in thread make him tougher than normal to analyze.

Major distrust:
1. DT/Lerriuqs - KWhit voter theory that I've discussed over and over again.

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 11:25 AM

I missed Clap in the earlier list. I would have him in the some distrust theory, but the reasons for distrusting him are somewhat metagamish and I'm going to hold off on exploring them any further for now. Barring a seer call-out, he is not the person I'm looking to vote for today.

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 11:31 AM

what about everyone else hoops?

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I missed Clap in the earlier list. I would have him in the some distrust theory, but the reasons for distrusting him are somewhat metagamish and I'm going to hold off on exploring them any further for now. Barring a seer call-out, he is not the person I'm looking to vote for today.

u dont trust me for metagame reasons? :'(

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 11:34 AM

I'm just busy at work. And I don't really have much to say...the noose is tightening around my neck.

I think you should all vote for lerriuqs, but that's primarily to save my own skin.

JAG · 11-13-2009, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, time to work up a trust list. Mainly to work through my own thoughts, but I won't mind if it gets at least a little bit of conversation going in this thread. This is an interesting exercise without any meaningful voting records so far.

Absolute trust - me (duh)

Some trust:
1. JAG - he brought up Scotty issue in thread earlier, does not seem like it makes sense for wolves to advertise what they might do later. Also did not seem locked into KWhit vs Hoops on Day 2, when wolves would have been happy to have two non-wolves in the vote showdown.
2. Jackal - seems to have been more trusting of me than the average bear. I suppose this could be read multiple ways since the wolves know I'm a villager, but for today I'm giving him a pass in terms of critical review.
3. Schmidty - claimed vanilla villager early on, so far all of the others who have done so and died have in fact been vanilla villagers. Along same lines of Jackal, I just think there are better candidates for today.

Some distrust:
1. Darth Vilus - KWhit voted for me over him on Day 2, and KWhit knows the wolves. My impressions of DV as a villager is that he has an agenda, but his posts up to this point don't seem like he is, to paraphrase OJ, "looking for the real killers"
2. Dubb - I get the sense that he really does not have time for this. Low post count, lack of visibility in thread make him tougher than normal to analyze.

Major distrust:
1. DT/Lerriuqs - KWhit voter theory that I've discussed over and over again.

My list is basically the same, with the following exceptions:

1. Swap myself for you
2. Entry for hoops - If he's a wolf, then there must be some odd reason we're reading almost everything this game the same way.
3. Schmidty is on top of the neutral list above clap (basically he hasn't done much this game to prove himself one way or another). If Darth is not a wolf, I think there is an excellent chance clap is because of how the D1 voting went (as I've explained ad nauseum).
4. I switch dubb and Darth, not really based on anything more than feelings about their posts at this point. If one of DT / lerriuqs is not a wolf, I would feel worse about dubb.

The Jackal · 11-13-2009, 12:24 PM

I'm going to make my vote fairly early today because I'm going to be working from 4-11 without internet access.

lerriuqs · 11-13-2009, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that both Lerriuqs and DT were involved in a close vote yesterday yet neither one of them has posted since the Scotty event yesterday. You would think that if they had some kind of role that they might choose to reveal that info rather than have us go down the path towards lynching them again today.

Well, I've been waffling over a reveal for a day or two now, but if it helps. I'm Evil McCoy. Haven't had much luck saving anyone but I've been trying...

lerriuqs · 11-13-2009, 01:12 PM

With that said. I think DT's a wolf.

Vote DT

JAG · 11-13-2009, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lerriuqs

Well, I've been waffling over a reveal for a day or two now, but if it helps. I'm Evil McCoy. Haven't had much luck saving anyone but I've been trying...

It's useful if:

1. You're telling the truth (of course)
2. If the Evil Nurse Chapel is in the game since that role would now know any of your previous statements should come back true.

In fact, I wonder if some of the reason for the lack of posts is that wolves are afraid that role is in the game and making too many statements that could be truth / false'd would leave them in danger of being revealed.

Schmidty · 11-13-2009, 01:26 PM

UNVOTE LLERIUQS

VOTE DT

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 01:27 PM

who me? bahhh

JAG · 11-13-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If the seer does happen to be on at the deadline I would seriously consider a post at one minute after the deadline in the event that they are getting taken out tonight.

I think this advice hold true even more strongly today with the diminishing group of players and the likelihood that the wolves have a good percent chance to take down the seer today with the combination of Good Kirk scanning for roles and NK'ing players that Kirk has yet to scan.

JAG · 11-13-2009, 01:35 PM

Add to that the possibility that DT could be a brutal which would give them an extra shot at hitting the seer.

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 01:37 PM

who says i'm even a wolf?

JAG · 11-13-2009, 01:43 PM

hoops, I have a question re: your post 476, just because one part of it bugs me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

2.) If you have scanned me, then hopefully you trust me by now. If you have not scanned me I would think it is probably a good idea to do so to build a trust list unless you have a very strong feeling on a wolf

Why does this make sense?

1. It's far better if the seer finds us a wolf, no?
2. If they scanned anyone that wasn't a wolf, wouldn't they be building a trust list?

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 02:06 PM

1. I'm absolutely fine with the seer scanning anyone else, as they have a much higher % chance of finding a wolf than they do when they scan me. But if the seer has not scanned me and does not trust my intentions in offering suggestions, I'm guessing they will want to get around to scanning me at some point in time.

2. Yep, but if you are picking villagers to scan (obviously the seer is picking targets, not knowing villager/wolf) then I think I make a fair amount of sense. I'm one of the KWhit voters and I've been advocating the theory on why we should go after that group. So the seer could determine my loyalties and not have misgivings about plans that I'm offering in the thread.

I would feel the same way for a scan on any villager that I thought was a thought leader in the thread, for what it is worth. Although those have been kind of hard to come by in a game that is on day 4 with just over 500 posts ...

Anyway, the post was not some kind of "cunning wolf" ploy to get scanned, although I can now see how it may have read like that in the context you have quoted. It was just an attempt to rationalize what I thought would be the best seer actions at the time.

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Anyway, the post was not some kind of "cunning wolf" ploy to get scanned, although I can now see how it may have read like that in the context you have quoted. It was just an attempt to rationalize what I thought would be the best seer actions at the time.

I think that's exactly what it was based on my knowledge.

VOTE HOOPSGUY

The Jackal · 11-13-2009, 02:34 PM

FYI JAG - the rules say Nurse Chapel wouldn't be able to correctly determine if McCoy was lying.

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 02:42 PM

Sure, DT. We'll see how that thought looks after the lynch today.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lerriuqs

Well, I've been waffling over a reveal for a day or two now, but if it helps. I'm Evil McCoy. Haven't had much luck saving anyone but I've been trying...

Hmm, I'm not sure what to make of this reveal for a couple of reasons:
1.) It overlaps with the bodyguard role, to some extent. And we already know that the bodyguard was in the game.
2.) The authenticity of the reveal cannot be challenged by the Nurse, assuming that role is in the game.

Barring the role actually being in the game, it is a really good role for the wolves to bluff.

That does not mean you are lying, just that it is a little tougher to trust you at face value.

JAG · 11-13-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

FYI JAG - the rules say Nurse Chapel wouldn't be able to correctly determine if McCoy was lying.

Understood, which was what I implied:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

2. If the Evil Nurse Chapel is in the game since that role would now know any of your previous statements should come back true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rules re: Nursel Chapel

This ability will not work if used on a post by either the villager or wolf role of Doctor McCoy, as, good or evil, she is convinced McCoy is an honorable man and will not believe herself if she sees he is lying and will only report he told the truth.

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Sure, DT. We'll see how that thought looks after the lynch today.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

we might

lerriuqs · 11-13-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Hmm, I'm not sure what to make of this reveal for a couple of reasons:
1.) It overlaps with the bodyguard role, to some extent. And we already know that the bodyguard was in the game.
2.) The authenticity of the reveal cannot be challenged by the Nurse, assuming that role is in the game.

Barring the role actually being in the game, it is a really good role for the wolves to bluff.

That does not mean you are lying, just that it is a little tougher to trust you at face value.

At this point in the game, why would I lie? The seer is still out there. I'm under suspicion. It'd be stupid to lie about it.

lerriuqs · 11-13-2009, 03:38 PM

Just another note, I'm likely out in about two to 2.5 hours for the day. I'll try to check in once or twice before then to see if anything else comes up...

The Jackal · 11-13-2009, 03:44 PM

Alright, I have to go to work.

VOTE DT

Darth Vilus · 11-13-2009, 04:08 PM

so we gonna have a runooff today or just go ahead and waste DT? I'm fine either way as long as DT is gone today, that sabotage was very unfortunate yesterday

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 04:17 PM

It pretty much looks like we are going to see DT removed, barring some major reversal over the last few hours. That kind of stuff is pretty rare late Friday afternoon/evening, but I suppose it could happen.

Darth Vilus · 11-13-2009, 04:19 PM

alrighty

VOTE DADDYTORGO

adios, you better be a wolf or hoops is shooting straight up my radar

Darth Vilus · 11-13-2009, 04:19 PM

time to bone up on my star trek knowledge

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 04:27 PM

vote lerriqus

just dont want a runaway!

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

time to bone up on my star trek knowledge

you do that and i'll bone something else

Darth Vilus · 11-13-2009, 04:30 PM

we'll see

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 04:31 PM

Cheif... send me the answer before you post the question... you know me! ill still get it wrong!

Chief Rum · 11-13-2009, 04:31 PM

I am getting the trivia question set now...

It's going to be slightly harder (but still not that hard).

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 04:33 PM

*twiddling thumbs*

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 04:34 PM

the answer is..... the only reason anyone ever watched startrek!

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 04:34 PM

the question... Deanna Troys rack!

Chief Rum · 11-13-2009, 04:34 PM

All right, here is today's Trivia Question...

Name the two feature length movies in which the Enterprise was destroyed.

PM me your answer. First to get me the correct answer will receive the captain's access card.

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

the answer is..... the only reason anyone ever watched startrek!

Jadzia Dax

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 04:36 PM

never heard of her...

and i submited the only 2 star trek movies i even knew had names....

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 04:37 PM

bingo. done

DaddyTorgo · 11-13-2009, 04:38 PM

The answers:

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Star Trek: Generations

claphamsa · 11-13-2009, 04:39 PM

rly? i got one

i thought it blew up in empire strikes back?

hoopsguy · 11-13-2009, 04:39 PM

Taking home one last prize for the wolves, DT?

11-13-2009, 11:12 AM	#503
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	a wolf? who's a wolf? __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

11-13-2009, 11:31 AM	#508
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	what about everyone else hoops? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

11-13-2009, 11:34 AM	#510
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I'm just busy at work. And I don't really have much to say...the noose is tightening around my neck. I think you should all vote for lerriuqs, but that's primarily to save my own skin. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

11-13-2009, 01:26 PM	#516
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	UNVOTE LLERIUQS VOTE DT __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

11-13-2009, 01:27 PM	#517
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	who me? bahhh __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

11-13-2009, 10:16 AM	#502
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	VOTE DT I think there's a chance DT and lerriuqs are both wolves personally.

11-13-2009, 11:13 AM	#504
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that both Lerriuqs and DT were involved in a close vote yesterday yet neither one of them has posted since the Scotty event yesterday. You would think that if they had some kind of role that they might choose to reveal that info rather than have us go down the path towards lynching them again today.

11-13-2009, 11:14 AM	#505
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I stand corrected, DT has now posted while I was in the middle of crafting post #504.

11-13-2009, 11:24 AM	#506
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, time to work up a trust list. Mainly to work through my own thoughts, but I won't mind if it gets at least a little bit of conversation going in this thread. This is an interesting exercise without any meaningful voting records so far. Absolute trust - me (duh) Some trust: 1. JAG - he brought up Scotty issue in thread earlier, does not seem like it makes sense for wolves to advertise what they might do later. Also did not seem locked into KWhit vs Hoops on Day 2, when wolves would have been happy to have two non-wolves in the vote showdown. 2. Jackal - seems to have been more trusting of me than the average bear. I suppose this could be read multiple ways since the wolves know I'm a villager, but for today I'm giving him a pass in terms of critical review. 3. Schmidty - claimed vanilla villager early on, so far all of the others who have done so and died have in fact been vanilla villagers. Along same lines of Jackal, I just think there are better candidates for today. Some distrust: 1. Darth Vilus - KWhit voted for me over him on Day 2, and KWhit knows the wolves. My impressions of DV as a villager is that he has an agenda, but his posts up to this point don't seem like he is, to paraphrase OJ, "looking for the real killers" 2. Dubb - I get the sense that he really does not have time for this. Low post count, lack of visibility in thread make him tougher than normal to analyze. Major distrust: 1. DT/Lerriuqs - KWhit voter theory that I've discussed over and over again.

11-13-2009, 11:25 AM	#507
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I missed Clap in the earlier list. I would have him in the some distrust theory, but the reasons for distrusting him are somewhat metagamish and I'm going to hold off on exploring them any further for now. Barring a seer call-out, he is not the person I'm looking to vote for today.

11-13-2009, 12:24 PM	#512
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm going to make my vote fairly early today because I'm going to be working from 4-11 without internet access.

11-13-2009, 01:12 PM	#514
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	With that said. I think DT's a wolf. Vote DT

11-13-2009, 01:35 PM	#519
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Add to that the possibility that DT could be a brutal which would give them an extra shot at hitting the seer.

11-13-2009, 01:37 PM	#520
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	who says i'm even a wolf? __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

11-13-2009, 02:06 PM	#522
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	1. I'm absolutely fine with the seer scanning anyone else, as they have a much higher % chance of finding a wolf than they do when they scan me. But if the seer has not scanned me and does not trust my intentions in offering suggestions, I'm guessing they will want to get around to scanning me at some point in time. 2. Yep, but if you are picking villagers to scan (obviously the seer is picking targets, not knowing villager/wolf) then I think I make a fair amount of sense. I'm one of the KWhit voters and I've been advocating the theory on why we should go after that group. So the seer could determine my loyalties and not have misgivings about plans that I'm offering in the thread. I would feel the same way for a scan on any villager that I thought was a thought leader in the thread, for what it is worth. Although those have been kind of hard to come by in a game that is on day 4 with just over 500 posts ... Anyway, the post was not some kind of "cunning wolf" ploy to get scanned, although I can now see how it may have read like that in the context you have quoted. It was just an attempt to rationalize what I thought would be the best seer actions at the time.

11-13-2009, 02:34 PM	#524
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	FYI JAG - the rules say Nurse Chapel wouldn't be able to correctly determine if McCoy was lying.

11-13-2009, 02:42 PM	#525
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Sure, DT. We'll see how that thought looks after the lynch today. VOTE DADDYTORGO

11-13-2009, 03:38 PM	#530
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Just another note, I'm likely out in about two to 2.5 hours for the day. I'll try to check in once or twice before then to see if anything else comes up...

11-13-2009, 03:44 PM	#531
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Alright, I have to go to work. VOTE DT

11-13-2009, 04:08 PM	#532
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	so we gonna have a runooff today or just go ahead and waste DT? I'm fine either way as long as DT is gone today, that sabotage was very unfortunate yesterday __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

11-13-2009, 04:17 PM	#533
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	It pretty much looks like we are going to see DT removed, barring some major reversal over the last few hours. That kind of stuff is pretty rare late Friday afternoon/evening, but I suppose it could happen.

11-13-2009, 04:19 PM	#534
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	alrighty VOTE DADDYTORGO adios, you better be a wolf or hoops is shooting straight up my radar __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

11-13-2009, 04:19 PM	#535
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	time to bone up on my star trek knowledge __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

11-13-2009, 04:27 PM	#536
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	vote lerriqus just dont want a runaway! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

11-13-2009, 04:30 PM	#538
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	we'll see __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

11-13-2009, 04:31 PM	#539
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Cheif... send me the answer before you post the question... you know me! ill still get it wrong! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

11-13-2009, 04:31 PM	#540
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I am getting the trivia question set now... It's going to be slightly harder (but still not that hard). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

11-13-2009, 04:33 PM	#541
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	twiddling thumbs __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

11-13-2009, 04:34 PM	#542
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	the answer is..... the only reason anyone ever watched startrek! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

11-13-2009, 04:34 PM	#543
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	the question... Deanna Troys rack! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

11-13-2009, 04:34 PM	#544
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	All right, here is today's Trivia Question... *Name the two feature length movies in which the Enterprise* was destroyed.** PM me your answer. First to get me the correct answer will receive the captain's access card. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

11-13-2009, 04:36 PM	#546
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	never heard of her... and i submited the only 2 star trek movies i even knew had names.... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

11-13-2009, 04:37 PM	#547
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	bingo. done __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

11-13-2009, 04:38 PM	#548
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	The answers: Star Trek III: The Search for Spock Star Trek: Generations __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

11-13-2009, 04:39 PM	#549
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	rly? i got one i thought it blew up in empire strikes back? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!