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[molson]

VOTE PATH

Pending a closer read on everything when I'm done work.

I'm trying to think if there's some kind of conceivable nefarious purpose for Alan for lying about what he did. "Alan's a spy trying to frame CIA agent Path" makes so sense, but is there anything more intricate/clever we're not considering?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by path12

The PM you say you got. I didn't get one.

I'll tell you what. I've got body armor that I believe would protect me against a lynch. I will give that to someone on my trust list to show my intentions.

Ardent, you should be getting something from me soon.

Wow, this has been interesting. I did, indeed, just receive body armor after a workout.

[molson]

Dola, I meant "Alan's a spy trying to frame CIA agent Path makes No sense."

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Wow, this has been interesting. I did, indeed, just receive body armor after a workout.

I don't see any reason why he would say he was going to do it and not do that to save himself.

My guess is the body armor is only good for a night attack and won't help with the lynch.

[Barkeep49]

Is a lynching considered an attack? If so it's good against lynching. Otherwise it's simply a night protection. Though it does make me wonder about why the KGB would need night protection.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Is a lynching considered an attack? If so it's good against lynching. Otherwise it's simply a night protection. Though it does make me wonder about why the KGB would need night protection.

If everything else itemwise has been randomly given out, why wouldn't that?

I've gotten two items given to me supposedly random each time. Once again I don't see why Lathum would lie about that.

[saldana]

ok, i guess it seems to be the obvious thing to do, and if we are screwed, tomorrow is even more obvious.

vote path

[path12]

If the KGB had body armor they certainly wouldn't pass it along and give a regular agent protection. It's the only thing I can do to try and clear my name. If I was KGB nobody would be getting the armor except another KGB.

[path12]

Originally Posted by saldana

ok, i guess it seems to be the obvious thing to do, and if we are screwed, tomorrow is even more obvious.

vote path

*sigh*

[saldana]

and to those who have said i havent been very involved, you are right, and i apologize to the entire game for that....a project that was supposed to have been finished last week got its finalization pushed back to today, so i have been going into work at 6am, going nonstop til 5 or 6 at night and repeating every day this week...when i signed up for the game, i didnt expect that type of work situation. sorry to everyone...i should be able to pick it up a bit now.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I don't see any reason why he would say he was going to do it and not do that to save himself.

My guess is the body armor is only good for a night attack and won't help with the lynch.

this is from the rules

Body Amour- This will give you a chance to survive an attack. No need to activate this item, you will always have it on until it is needed

i dont think it is going to be much help from a bullet to the head.

[st.cronin]

Its an obvious frameup job, seems like. Path turns out bad, we all look at ardent. I'm not buying it. Very clumsy play, imo.

[Poli]

If I get shot in the head, I'll be peeved, for sure. Dead, but also peeved.

[Alan T]

I have a feeling I'll be dead tonight too. Kind of makes me wish I had saved that sensor for tonight.

[Poli]

No worries, I could pass on the body armor to you. Well, I mean, I could. I'll give the bad guys something to think about.

[Alan T]

What an anti-climatic last 2 hours

[Lathum]

I know. Maybe I'll throw in a nucluer weapon for some flavor.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I know. Maybe I'll throw in a nucluer weapon for some flavor.

That wasn't quite what I had in mind to spice things up.

[Poli]

The lines are drawn, so to speak.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by beargrowlz

Ok, so why would the KGB target Narc?

1) From what I have picked up in this game, it seems to be general concensus that wolves target experienced villagers over inexperienced villagers, feeling the experience in the game is more of a threat than the unknown.

2) Narc has admitted he was inexperienced, and no one has contradicted him that he wasn't. Having never played before, I will thus assume that Narc falls in the inexperienced category.

Given that, why would the KGB target him, given that there were very experienced players who were participating in the discussion, such as Alan and Cronin, that would have made better targets?

3) Narc was onto someone who was KGB and they felt threatened by him. Narc was somewhat suspicious of me, moreso of Ardent, and even moreso of Cronin. If one of us were KGB, and Narc continued to press his line of thinking, that would make him a prime target.

or

4) The other prime, experienced, and participating targets for the KGB, Alan and Cronin, are KGB - both of them or individually - and they wouldn't take out their own. It's difficult for me to see Cronin as KGB given his first day actions of practically talking me into voting for him and almost getting himself shot. We also have AE's post stating that Cronin didn't make a night action Night 1 - not entirely exculpatory, but certainly adds some circumstantial evidence to the idea that Cronin is not KGB - or that Ardent is lying.

Why would Ardent lie if Cronin were CIA though? So if Ardent is lying, Cronin is most likely KGB and played me Day 1 - though it almost ended up getting him killed.

Alan on the other hand has drawn no posted suspicion from anyone, and that hardly seems to be reason to suspect him.

Ok, so as I see it, the possible players who benefit from a Narc kill if they are KGB are me, Cronin, Alan, Ardent.

Did I miss anyone that Narc was suspicious of? And are there other highly experienced players that have been participating that would make more likely targets than Narc unless they were KGB?

None of this however, touches upon the notion that a number of KGB are probably flying under the radar and just quiet.

But I can't get away from the idea that Narc was killed either a) because he was dangerously close to outing a spy or b) to protect someone else.

Either that or it was just a senseless, random CIA player the KGB chose to kill.

Not at all certain who to vote for atm.






4)

Well to get some discussion going, I have been thinking back to this post now knowing what I do know.. I think I fully know why I am still around and wasn't targeted. I had been doubting path's trust for a while now (obviously since he's the one I chose to scan). And my death would likely have brought that into more light... But wondering why Narcizo over some of the others...

As I see it we're grouped into a few groups..


Newer players:
7. ImTheCrew
9. Molson
10. beargrowlz
13. Molly Murphy

Quiet players (this game so far):
2. Barkeep
4. Chief Rum
15. Saldana

Under alot of heat:
8. St Cronin

The others:
1. AlanT
5. Path12
12. Ardent




Now I can figure why I was around as I mentioned above. if I had to guess about Ardent his death would help validate his statements as true, which right now is a questionmark for some people. St.cronin is under some heat, and well Path is bad. Right now I have a feeling that I wouldn't be too suprised if one of St.Cronin or Ardent is bad as well, but thats something that would have to work out over time.

Barkeep/DC I think I understand why they wern't killed.. but two people I am quite curious about why they are still here.. Chief Rum and Saldana. Both are very insightful players, who are usually a pretty good asset to the village, whom have been quieter than normal and have been left alone. If I was a wolf, and those two were good, I likely would have taken one of them out fairly early on.


Do other people have thoughts? I know some of you are waiting to see how the vote works out, but assume I am telling the truth (which I am) for now, which direction do we try to figure out the wolves are sitting?

[Poli]

I'm a little unwilling to comment on the rest of the players, just know there's no way I'd vote for the person who came to visit me.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'm a little unwilling to comment on the rest of the players, just know there's no way I'd vote for the person who came to visit me.

Well obviously that doesn't help me much. but I understand that for now. I still would love to have a better feal about whats going on with the mercenary thing at some point in this game.

[Lathum]

deadline

[Lathum]

final vote count

St. Cronin 1 ITC (391)
MollyMurphy 1 chiefrum (412)
AlaNT- 2 mollyMurphy (455), path12 (467)
Path12 7 AlaNT (465) St. Cronin (466), beargrowlz ( 468), barkeep ( 494), ardent ( 500), molson ( 501) Saldana ( 507)


You all gather in the mess hall and toniights descion was much eaiser to come by. Accusations of treason fly and most side with AlanT. Path protests his love for America and denies his involvement with the KGB.

The commanding officer pulls out his revolver and tells Path the unit has decided. He puts his revolver to Paths head and pulls the trigger.

A search of Paths quarters find a decoder ring and several messages in Russian. Path12 was a spy!!

You all return to your quarters feeling justice has been served.

Night 3 has begun. Deadline 9:00AM EST

[Alan T]

Очень хорошо

[Poli]

WOO!!!

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Очень хорошо

?

[beargrowlz]

I would like to say, just for the record, that our commander must be an ex-marine - rather than searching quarters first, he shoots, then searches.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

?

Haha, just went to google to send path a goodbye note. Since Path is russian and all, he should be able to understand it.


















cliff notes: I just translated Very Good into russian using google

[path12]

My comrade(s) will avenge me!!

Fun times. Stupid lie detector.

[molson]

Nice job Alan. The momentum shift in 24 hours is amazing. I'd look over your will and make sure everything's in order at this point. Though it's not a slam dunk at all with that armor floating around.

For fun, here's my top 4 suspects now -

-ImTheCrew/Molly Murphy - They both have done suspicious things, and both have the built-in "new player" excuse. But we have to remember to look at the spies as a team - if a veteran spy wants something done, they don't have to do it themselves, they can "assign" a new player spy to do it, so that excuse can be built in.

-Chief Rum/Saldana - Quiet, Veteran Players. They haven't taken any risks at all, haven't committed too much. Haven't given us too much reason to vote for them. What are the odds both have survived night kills to this point?

I think there's a good chance that at least one each from the above pairings are who we're looking for.

[saldana]

good job alan

excellent work finding that post to test...now we just have to see if we can link path to anyone else

[DaddyTorgo]

YES! well done village!

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

YES! well done village!

Oh you're just mad because I shot you.

[Poli]

Freaky. It's me, a bad guy and a good guy in the thread.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Freaky. It's me, a bad guy and a good guy in the thread.

Should we infer anything into that?

[Poli]

Yeah, that I was the only one alive.

[ImTheCrew]

Sorry guys i havent caught up on the reading yet but it looks like path may have slipped up or something but i would have changed mine if i had been around.

[Chief Rum]

Wow, great choice of a statement to go after, Alan. It seemed like you were in a corner with path's posts, but you found one that worked anyway.

I'm bummed right now that Narcizo is dead. He's usually the only guy around for me to chat with right now.

I wish I could say why I was still alive, although I don't regret it. I guess the KGB have found better targets. Although, think about the selections. They killed one guy who strongly hinted he was the seer (that's an automatic wolf kill order), and while Barkeep and I are vets, we also have been very quiet. So if we're not wolves (roll with it right now, if you would, and, no, I have no idea of BK's allegiance), I think the baddies went after Narcizo because he was putting up very well thought out ideas for the second straight game, and what's more dangerous, an active, but good newbie or an inactive vet. Put beargrowlz, who has done a goods job so far here, or Narcizo in the first role and, let's say, bulletsponge, in the second, and who would you say has contributed more?

So that's why I think Narcizo was targeted before more veteran players. He was, frankly, more dangerous.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow, great choice of a statement to go after, Alan. It seemed like you were in a corner with path's posts, but you found one that worked anyway.

I'm bummed right now that Narcizo is dead. He's usually the only guy around for me to chat with right now.

I wish I could say why I was still alive, although I don't regret it. I guess the KGB have found better targets. Although, think about the selections. They killed one guy who strongly hinted he was the seer (that's an automatic wolf kill order), and while Barkeep and I are vets, we also have been very quiet. So if we're not wolves (roll with it right now, if you would, and, no, I have no idea of BK's allegiance), I think the baddies went after Narcizo because he was putting up very well thought out ideas for the second straight game, and what's more dangerous, an active, but good newbie or an inactive vet. Put beargrowlz, who has done a goods job so far here, or Narcizo in the first role and, let's say, bulletsponge, in the second, and who would you say has contributed more?

So that's why I think Narcizo was targeted before more veteran players. He was, frankly, more dangerous.

Chief,

Who do you think were most tied to Path so far this game and why? Also does anyone jump out at you as possibly being he mercenary?

[Poli]

Good morning, Alan.

[Alan T]

Morning Ardent

[Poli]

Should be an interesting morning with Lathum gets up.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Should be an interesting morning with Lathum gets up.

So by noon?

[Poli]

Exactly. I found out we're closing on a house on the 30th.

[Poli]

I got more photos...better ones, in fact, but I got to get them uploaded somewhere.

[Lorena]

Dammit I keep getting sucked in. That sony card ad at the top is driving me fucking insane!

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Exactly. I found out we're closing on a house on the 30th.

That's awesome man, grats!!

[Poli]

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Exactly. I found out we're closing on a house on the 30th.

Nice!

And Wow.. I forgot what its like to have wide open land. Havent seen a yard like that since I lived in Texas