Survivor: Oz Tribal Thread - Page 11

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 03:43 PM

*shrug*

Any bid requires significant guesswork anyway. Why change it? I don't really get what GE is worried about.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 03:45 PM

i also think RA is a wolf, but im not sure if its enough to change my vote from smchditty( he has about 9 post in both threads together)

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

i also think RA is a wolf, but im not sure if its enough to change my vote from smchditty( he has about 9 post in both threads together)

If Schmidty needs to drop out, he can be replaced. Trust me when I say this has been pretty much the prototypical Schmidty game so far. He'll come in handy.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 03:48 PM

any one else willing to share their voting thoughts?

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 03:50 PM

Ardent was talking about GE, and GE honestly has been a little fishy today. I wouldn't be stunned to learn that he was coordinating with other wolves what sort of bid we should submit. He's been critical, without contributing - that's a fairly wolfish technique.

I don't know, though, GE is not somebody I can read very easily.

Poli · 02-08-2007, 04:04 PM

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 04:05 PM

ae care to share how your'e voting?

Poli · 02-08-2007, 04:11 PM

GE or yourself, leaning more on GE.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 04:12 PM

Ardent will you be around at deadline?

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 04:17 PM

I really do not have time at work to sit down and think about the bidding. But, I was hoping we would talk about a bit more before anyone submitted a bid to Barkeep.

I just know that is critical that we win this challenge.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 04:21 PM

Ok, I have to go class now. Ardent, the pm I posted in thread is not the pm I sent BK. I am counting on you to pull last minute shenanigans to keep the wolves off guard. You are the only one I trust.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 04:28 PM

i thought you already sent it? will he accept it now?

Poli · 02-08-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ardent will you be around at deadline?

Yup, but the fun stuff is about to begin here and I won't be around for a few hours.

Poli · 02-08-2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ok, I have to go class now. Ardent, the pm I posted in thread is not the pm I sent BK. I am counting on you to pull last minute shenanigans to keep the wolves off guard. You are the only one I trust.

Gotcha.

Poli · 02-08-2007, 04:36 PM

Cronin, so you want me to throw the scent off?

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 04:37 PM

cronin, ae are you guys wolves you are acting very very strange

Poli · 02-08-2007, 04:40 PM

I'm no wolf. That's for certain.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 04:42 PM

im not either but i want to feel like a team for now atleast and i dont want you and cronin dividing it up

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

im not either but i want to feel like a team for now atleast and i dont want you and cronin dividing it up

Wanting us to act like a team...interesting

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 04:45 PM

is that weird?

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 04:48 PM

i think the challenges are better if we work has a team, and not act like some people are better/over others

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

i think the challenges are better if we work has a team, and not act like some people are better/over others

Well, the problem is that there is at least one wolf among us (at least, that is what is being assumed). In the end, it is really villagers vs. wolves and not team vs. team.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 05:12 PM

thats right, i agree but you made a statement similiar to that a few post ago

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 05:12 PM

and the only person i think is a wolf would be RA, hes the one who volunteered

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 05:15 PM

whats a seer?

Barkeep49 · 02-08-2007, 06:10 PM

You may change your bid if you desire.

Schmidty · 02-08-2007, 06:18 PM

I'm finally here. I have a ton to catch up on. What are the deadlines, challenges, etc. right now?

I'll still look for myself, but if someone could quickly bring me up to date, that would be awesome.

Schmidty · 02-08-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

At this point, I feel like I'll be voting for Schmidty. He had an opportunity to respond last night, late last night, and didn't.

What the heck did you want me to say, brother?

Barkeep49 · 02-08-2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I'm finally here. I have a ton to catch up on. What are the deadlines, challenges, etc. right now?

I'll still look for myself, but if someone could quickly bring me up to date, that would be awesome.

Bidding challenge due by 10 PM. Need to vote at tribual council also by 10.

Schmidty · 02-08-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Bidding challenge due by 10 PM. Need to vote at tribual council also by 10.

Cool. It sounds like Oz already PMed our team's bids though, correct?

Barkeep49 · 02-08-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Cool. It sounds like Oz already PMed our team's bids though, correct?

Correct, but it may be changed up until deadline.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I think you'll probably talk about re-upping.

Anyhow, last thought before I leave:

There are 277 points available. With four tribes, that averages out to 69.25 points per tribe. We need to get above that. For those 69.25 points, we need to earn at least 2.3879 points per dollar. I'm out until about 7 EST.

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Voting is done by PM, ITC - pm Barkeep, make sure to put Oz Tribal Council in the subject.

I just sent the following pm to BK:

Oz places the following bids:

$13 on Greater Werewolvia (A) 33
$12 on South Canis (L) 29
$2 on Fleabit Cove (D) 10
$2 on Dogbonia (E) 11

I think this is a very risky strategy. As I pointed out earlier, we need at least 70 points to win. If we lose any one of the bids, then we lose. Even winning all of the bets, we only score 80 points. How are those bids going to get us the win?

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:13 PM

Correction: we only score 83 points if we win all of our bids.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

and the only person i think is a wolf would be RA, hes the one who volunteered

That's what I would expect you to do. You're learning quickly my young Padawan!

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:27 PM

Let me drop the bomb on you guys: I am the wolf in the tribe.

I thought about how I might play it out, but I think this is the best way. Sooner or later I'm going to either get caught by the seer or the lynch. Mostly sooner.

Here is my rationale for coming out of the closet:

1. I'm out of the game in a few days anyhow if I don't.
2. I can help you within the game itself. During the night phase I can scan for another wolf. I scanned Lathum the other night. He came clean.
3. Once I find another wolf (like on another tribe) I can PM with them. I can then post that information in our thread, thus giving us a heads-up on other tribal information. For instance, on days like today I'll know their bids. You can be sure that no other wolf will even think of coming out of the closet.
4. I can kill once per night, but I can withhold from doing so (which of course I will for continued existence in the game).

I feel as if I can be a much more valuable asset than an ordinary player in the game. I became a wolf when I volunteered. What do you guys say?

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:41 PM

I'm out for a while. Let me know what you guys think or if you have any questions for me.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I think this is a very risky strategy. As I pointed out earlier, we need at least 70 points to win. If we lose any one of the bids, then we lose. Even winning all of the bets, we only score 80 points. How are those bids going to get us the win?

For example, in the other thread a tribe bid:

$5 for Lesser Werewolvia
$5 for Fleabit Cove
$2 for Dogbonia
$2 for Dog Ear
$2 for Garouvia
$1 for North Canis
$1 for Lake Wolfsbane
$10 for South Canis
$1 for Alpovia

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 08:07 PM

So you don't know who the other wolves are? Weird.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

If it were up to me, I'd go:

$14 on South Canis (29)
$6 on Upper Fang (21)
$3 on Lesser Werewolvia (20)
$3 on Dogbonia (10)
$3 on Alpovia (13)

I'd still go with these but adjust the numbers:

$13 on South Canis (29)
$5 on Upper Fang (21)
$4 on Lesser Werewolvia (20)
$4 on Alpovia (13)
$3 on Dogbonia (10)

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

So you don't know who the other wolves are? Weird.

No. I can scan for them at night after the tribal council. I scanned Lathum because he was on after the volunteer message came out and seemed to be keen on volunteering. I suppose he did not.

So, what do you say about letting me work for you guys? My goal is to at least make tribal council so I can cast a vote for the ultimate winner.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:15 PM

Gonna eat supper, but think about this: I can do something that none of you can't. Why kill me if I'm not going to kill any of you? Coming out right now shows that I'll be transparent and forthcoming with information. Also, I feel as if I've added to the challenges quite a bit.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 08:19 PM

I actually halfway think you're making this up. In other words, no idea.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 08:24 PM

Also, either way, this is definitely the oddest play I can remember seeing in WW.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 08:26 PM

Ok, I made my decision. Hopefully the other fellows play this the right way.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I actually halfway think you're making this up. In other words, no idea.

Why would I make this up? So I can save myself from the lynch and get the real wolf lynched? That doesn't make any sense.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:33 PM

I'm going to also vote for Schmidty in self defense. No other reason. (saw that ITC voted for him)

If you guys have any other questions, I'll be available for the next 10-15 minutes before Survivor comes on...LOL.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Why would I make this up? So I can save myself from the lynch and get the real wolf lynched? That doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't make any sense the other way, either. Why not say you're the seer?

Poli · 02-08-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

What the heck did you want me to say, brother?

Whatever's on your mind, bro.

Poli · 02-08-2007, 08:38 PM

Cronin, should I buy you a hat?

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 08:39 PM

Depends on what you do with your vote.

02-08-2007, 03:43 PM	#501
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	shrug Any bid requires significant guesswork anyway. Why change it? I don't really get what GE is worried about. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 03:50 PM	#505
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ardent was talking about GE, and GE honestly has been a little fishy today. I wouldn't be stunned to learn that he was coordinating with other wolves what sort of bid we should submit. He's been critical, without contributing - that's a fairly wolfish technique. I don't know, though, GE is not somebody I can read very easily. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 04:04 PM	#506
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	+1 __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 04:11 PM	#508
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	GE or yourself, leaning more on GE. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 04:12 PM	#509
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ardent will you be around at deadline? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 03:45 PM	#502
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	i also think RA is a wolf, but im not sure if its enough to change my vote from smchditty( he has about 9 post in both threads together)

02-08-2007, 03:48 PM	#504
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	any one else willing to share their voting thoughts?

02-08-2007, 04:05 PM	#507
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	ae care to share how your'e voting?

02-08-2007, 04:17 PM	#510
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I really do not have time at work to sit down and think about the bidding. But, I was hoping we would talk about a bit more before anyone submitted a bid to Barkeep. I just know that is critical that we win this challenge. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 04:21 PM	#511
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ok, I have to go class now. Ardent, the pm I posted in thread is not the pm I sent BK. I am counting on you to pull last minute shenanigans to keep the wolves off guard. You are the only one I trust. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 04:28 PM	#512
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	i thought you already sent it? will he accept it now?

02-08-2007, 04:36 PM	#515
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Cronin, so you want me to throw the scent off? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 04:37 PM	#516
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	cronin, ae are you guys wolves you are acting very very strange

02-08-2007, 04:40 PM	#517
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm no wolf. That's for certain. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 04:42 PM	#518
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	im not either but i want to feel like a team for now atleast and i dont want you and cronin dividing it up

02-08-2007, 04:45 PM	#520
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	is that weird?

02-08-2007, 04:48 PM	#521
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	i think the challenges are better if we work has a team, and not act like some people are better/over others

02-08-2007, 05:12 PM	#523
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	thats right, i agree but you made a statement similiar to that a few post ago

02-08-2007, 05:12 PM	#524
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	and the only person i think is a wolf would be RA, hes the one who volunteered

02-08-2007, 05:15 PM	#525
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	whats a seer?

02-08-2007, 06:10 PM	#526
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	You may change your bid if you desire.

02-08-2007, 06:18 PM	#527
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I'm finally here. I have a ton to catch up on. What are the deadlines, challenges, etc. right now? I'll still look for myself, but if someone could quickly bring me up to date, that would be awesome.

02-08-2007, 07:13 PM	#533
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Correction: we only score 83 points if we win all of our bids.

02-08-2007, 07:27 PM	#535
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Let me drop the bomb on you guys: I am the wolf in the tribe. I thought about how I might play it out, but I think this is the best way. Sooner or later I'm going to either get caught by the seer or the lynch. Mostly sooner. Here is my rationale for coming out of the closet: 1. I'm out of the game in a few days anyhow if I don't. 2. I can help you within the game itself. During the night phase I can scan for another wolf. I scanned Lathum the other night. He came clean. 3. Once I find another wolf (like on another tribe) I can PM with them. I can then post that information in our thread, thus giving us a heads-up on other tribal information. For instance, on days like today I'll know their bids. You can be sure that no other wolf will even think of coming out of the closet. 4. I can kill once per night, but I can withhold from doing so (which of course I will for continued existence in the game). I feel as if I can be a much more valuable asset than an ordinary player in the game. I became a wolf when I volunteered. What do you guys say?

02-08-2007, 07:41 PM	#536
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm out for a while. Let me know what you guys think or if you have any questions for me.

02-08-2007, 08:07 PM	#538
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	So you don't know who the other wolves are? Weird. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 08:15 PM	#541
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Gonna eat supper, but think about this: I can do something that none of you can't. Why kill me if I'm not going to kill any of you? Coming out right now shows that I'll be transparent and forthcoming with information. Also, I feel as if I've added to the challenges quite a bit.

02-08-2007, 08:19 PM	#542
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I actually halfway think you're making this up. In other words, no idea. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 08:24 PM	#543
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Also, either way, this is definitely the oddest play I can remember seeing in WW. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 08:26 PM	#544
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ok, I made my decision. Hopefully the other fellows play this the right way. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 08:33 PM	#546
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm going to also vote for Schmidty in self defense. No other reason. (saw that ITC voted for him) If you guys have any other questions, I'll be available for the next 10-15 minutes before Survivor comes on...LOL.

02-08-2007, 08:38 PM	#549
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Cronin, should I buy you a hat? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 08:39 PM	#550
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Depends on what you do with your vote. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

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