Werewolf XLIV: The Fightin’ Fundies vs. Them Gays - GAME OVER - Page 11

DaddyTorgo · 03-29-2007, 08:26 AM

i agree with Lathum. Tyrith ought to put himself on the list too. That way if one comes up bad we don't have to waste another day.

that being said Lathum...how bout you put yourself on the list too? Save us that day and allow us to have a choice between you+tyrith (and me, although obviously I know I'm good so I would ask people to not vote for me).

Don't ask someone else to do something you're not willing to do yourself.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i agree with Lathum. Tyrith ought to put himself on the list too. That way if one comes up bad we don't have to waste another day.

that being said Lathum...how bout you put yourself on the list too? Save us that day and allow us to have a choice between you+tyrith (and me, although obviously I know I'm good so I would ask people to not vote for me).

Don't ask someone else to do something you're not willing to do yourself.

I purposly asked tyrith to add himself to the list AFTER the day cycle. If I add myself to the list today there is no way for me to not get lynched today, and that is bad for the village.

DaddyTorgo · 03-29-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I purposly asked tyrith to add himself to the list AFTER the day cycle. If I add myself to the list today there is no way for me to not get lynched today, and that is bad for the village.

i think i see your point there.

and is everyone still hung up on that comment i made about the two people? is that what has everyone thinking i'm a ghey?

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 08:49 AM

I think either you are gay or Tyrith and the other gays are using you.

DaddyTorgo · 03-29-2007, 08:53 AM

well i'm not gay lathum. but i agree that they are certainly liking the attention that i'm drawing.

can anyone vouch for your heterosexuality?

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

well i'm not gay lathum. but i agree that they are certainly liking the attention that i'm drawing.

can anyone vouch for your heterosexuality?

I don't see how but after tomorrow it will be a no brainer

Tyrith · 03-29-2007, 09:04 AM

If Lathum turns out good I will gladly offer myself for the ritual stoning I have coming to me for screwing up. However, I'm not right now going to offer myself as seer on a platter so that the dying Lathum can find some way into getting me offed. One step at a time.

hoopsguy · 03-29-2007, 09:06 AM

Tyrith, since you are around right now and there have been some questions about it - can you confirm that you are the seer?

For what it is worth, I had no idea that I was observed on Night 0.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

If Lathum turns out good I will gladly offer myself for the ritual stoning I have coming to me for screwing up. However, I'm not right now going to offer myself as seer on a platter so that the dying Lathum can find some way into getting me offed. One step at a time.

well in doing that you will be causing the village another day...

what ability could I possibly have that would make me be able to lynch you if you are only on the list?

Tyrith · 03-29-2007, 09:09 AM

Hoops, yes.

More or less I scanning the list of people that scare me. At the moment I don't really suspect blade all that much -- I lean towards trusting him somewhat, but he's either very good or very bad. So what I'm really saying is that I don't know, but my gut all along has been pushing me towards good.

Tyrith · 03-29-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

well in doing that you will be causing the village another day...

what ability could I possibly have that would make me be able to lynch you if you are only on the list?

Herding cats and clever Lathum bad guy tricks. I'll do it if it's village consensus, but right now I don't really have an opinion on DT either way, so you'll understand if I want people other than the two people under fire to comment about putting their seer on the kill list.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Herding cats and clever Lathum bad guy tricks. I'll do it if it's village consensus, but right now I don't really have an opinion on DT either way, so you'll understand if I want people other than the two people under fire to comment about putting their seer on the kill list.

well if you truly are the seer and I come up bad ( which won't happen) then you should have no worries about being on the liberal list since you would have been cleared.

Tyrith · 03-29-2007, 09:17 AM

Two things:

1) We still don't know what kinds of abilities you...*shudders at word* gays might have concerning people that are on that list.

2) You first.

Tyrith · 03-29-2007, 09:19 AM

I sadly have a test now, and class for quite some time. Be back this afternoon.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Two things:

1) We still don't know what kinds of abilities you...*shudders at word* gays might have concerning people that are on that list.

2) You first.

I will be on the list tonight.

I am asking you to put yourself on the list DURING the night phase, not right now. That way we are both on the list tomorrow. I will be lynched then you will be on the list the next day already. That way when I come up good you don't have an extra day to kill more people.

DaddyTorgo · 03-29-2007, 09:22 AM

i don't want anyone to reveal, be it the seer or anyone else. it's just making yourself a target for a night-kill, or a brutal-gay kill. what if lathum is the brutal-wolf, and he wants you to reveal so he can take you with him? or he can take only someone on the list with him?

i'd be very wary of saying anymore.

if no one comes out by say...1pm EST to confirm anything about me so that i can gain trust in them, i will reveal what my tendency was...

hoopsguy · 03-29-2007, 09:28 AM

DT, there was a similar concept to the brutal wolf that you are describing in the Tombstone game. But traditionally the brutal wolf can get anyone, not just a subset of the people in the game. If Lathum was playing brutal wolf I would expect him to try and extract as much information about other players before dying and then take the seer with him. He seems pretty focused on Tyrith at the moment, for better or worse.

Now that Lathum has said his piece, I'm going to

VOTE NIGHTFALL

hoopsguy · 03-29-2007, 09:31 AM

Realistically, I don't expect the nightfall to be honored anytime in the next few hours. But I think our course is pretty clear at the moment with regards to putting Lathum on the list. Any Tyrith debate can wait until after the evening deadline.

path12 · 03-29-2007, 10:24 AM

I would seriously advise Tyrith to NOT put himself on the liberal list at this time. It would be much better to waste two days (which I doubt we will since there has not been anyone countering him) then to put himself in any kind of situation where there is a chance of being killed.

path12 · 03-29-2007, 10:24 AM

VOTE NIGHTFALL

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

I would seriously advise Tyrith to NOT put himself on the liberal list at this time. It would be much better to waste two days (which I doubt we will since there has not been anyone countering him) then to put himself in any kind of situation where there is a chance of being killed.

how can you say that?

If I come up a gay anyone who votes Tyrith would instantly be outing themself as a gay.

When I come up clean we gain an extra day with Tyrith, that day can be crucial

hoopsguy · 03-29-2007, 10:35 AM

If Tyrith knows that he is the seer, then what does he have to gain by doing so? It is only a show of faith to his fellow players, along with hoping that the wolves don't take a shot at him. The seer has value that should not be recklessly wasted.

For what it is worth, I would be all over this point if you were advocating him putting himself on the list during the day cycle. As you are suggesting night, I'm still holding the position but less vociferously than I would otherwise.

Sure the wolves can night kill him. But why make it easier for them to day kill him?

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Sure the wolves can night kill him. But why make it easier for them to day kill him?

because if they do then we at least know who one wolf is.

He will enevitably be night killed ( if he is telling the truth about being the seer) so why not gain more info from it?

path12 · 03-29-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

because if they do then we at least know who one wolf is.

He will enevitably be night killed ( if he is telling the truth about being the seer) so why not gain more info from it?

We already know who one wolf is. You.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

We already know who one wolf is. You.

why are you so sure of that?

DaddyTorgo · 03-29-2007, 10:55 AM

vote nightfall

it's the trendy thing to do

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 11:55 AM

Lynch Daddytorgo

you are either a gay or being used by tyrith

Ironhead · 03-29-2007, 11:57 AM

I'm not buying into Lathum's song and dance. I think Tyrith is telling the truth on this one, and it would explain why he has kept such a low profile the first several days. I don't think it is a coincidence that Lathum was the only one willing to stone Cronin yesterday.

VOTE LATHUM & NIGHTFALL

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 12:00 PM

I want to hear more from Tyrith before I vote nightfall.

path12 · 03-29-2007, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

why are you so sure of that?

Leaving aside the fact that Tyrith has come out as the seer and said you're gay, there is the little problem that you decided to be the only person to stone my innocent, God-fearing son........who despite your protestations to the contrary gave no indication to me of being anything but a Fightin' Fundie.

So there's two reasons. That's enough for me.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 12:26 PM

So you think a no lynch is better?

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 12:27 PM

I'm telling you I am not a gay, Tyrith is lying and go ahead and put me on the list. It doesn't matter but you are giving Tyrith and the rest of the gays another day.

path12 · 03-29-2007, 12:34 PM

Nobody has contradicted Tyrith. I just wish that if someone had the power to do a day kill they use it here before you can cause any more harm.

Blade6119 · 03-29-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

Blade care to share where you were last night?

The exact same place i am every night, alone

ntndeacon · 03-29-2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Lynch Daddytorgo

you are either a gay or being used by tyrith

And that clinches your stoning.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Nobody has contradicted Tyrith. I just wish that if someone had the power to do a day kill they use it here before you can cause any more harm.

why would the real seer contradict him?

so they can be killed tonight?

Blade6119 · 03-29-2007, 12:38 PM

Lathum, if you want us to kill tyrith because he is lying, the most expedient way is to put yourself on the list today and then let us kill him tomorrow(or put him on the list, then kill him). If you dont, we will still have to vote you to the list tomorrow, kill you the day after, and then vote him, and kill him.

Basically, if you are good you need to take one for the team(like cronin did) and put yourself on the list. If your vote remains on DT, you are to me just damaging the team, and are admitting guilt.

Were around 8-2 or 7-3...a 1-1 swap is a very good thing for the village, and if you hold firm on DT then you are telling me everything i need to know

Blade6119 · 03-29-2007, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

why would the real seer contradict him?

so they can be killed tonight?

Because were far enough along where a 1-1 is beneficial, and in this case it would be a 1-2 since tyrith, if evil, did it to protect DT. So if your good, and their evil, its time to take one for the team as we can win this soon if you do. If you stay the course on DT, you are just sabotaging the team

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Lathum, if you want us to kill tyrith because he is lying, the most expedient way is to put yourself on the list today and then let us kill him tomorrow(or put him on the list, then kill him). If you dont, we will still have to vote you to the list tomorrow, kill you the day after, and then vote him, and kill him.

Basically, if you are good you need to take one for the team(like cronin did) and put yourself on the list. If your vote remains on DT, you are to me just damaging the team, and are admitting guilt.

Were around 8-2 or 7-3...a 1-1 swap is a very good thing for the village, and if you hold firm on DT then you are telling me everything i need to know

there is no way I am doing that, I know I am good and by "taking one for the team" I would be hurting us.

I would rather take the chance DT and Tyrith were up to something. The way I see it is worst case scenerio DT is good, either way we are losing a good guy. If tyrith is so confident he will put himself on the list for tomorrow, we will both be on the list and if you feel compeled to lynch me then we don't lose a day after I come up good.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Because were far enough along where a 1-1 is beneficial, and in this case it would be a 1-2 since tyrith, if evil, did it to protect DT. So if your good, and their evil, its time to take one for the team as we can win this soon if you do. If you stay the course on DT, you are just sabotaging the team

If I was the seer I wouldn't say a word. Tyrith is going down eventualy anyway so why get myself killed. I'de rather buy myself a few more scans.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 12:45 PM

I have to go run some errands. I would like for there not to be nightfall until I come back.

Blade6119 · 03-29-2007, 12:47 PM

Tyrith wont be going down for a an extra 2 days because of your actions, and even then i expect you to try and sabotage us again if someone else ends up on the list in the meantime.

And i think your just lying...if you had a wolf, maybe 2 in a big day like this you would call him out and know the BG could buy you a day or 2. With the numbers, its totally in our favor to do so.

ntndeacon · 03-29-2007, 12:48 PM

plus it isn't really a 1-1 if Tyrith is a seer. for we know more than that and any COT can expand to add Hoops to it. narrowing down the possible gays.

Abe Sargent · 03-29-2007, 01:01 PM

I don't know that I'm, going to honor nightfall votes. We'll see. I'm not around as much today as I am in other days.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Tyrith wont be going down for a an extra 2 days because of your actions, and even then i expect you to try and sabotage us again if someone else ends up on the list in the meantime.

And i think your just lying...if you had a wolf, maybe 2 in a big day like this you would call him out and know the BG could buy you a day or 2. With the numbers, its totally in our favor to do so.

man are you parinoid.

I have no idea who is a wolf but since I know I'm not one I can only make assumptions.

hoopsguy · 03-29-2007, 01:26 PM

Not surprised on the lynch vote - it obviously makes sense for Lathum to do it as a gay. It would keep him off the list for another day. Which is why I was asking earlier if anyone had a power to move someone to the gay list as a day action - if not, then it is going to take awhile to get around to stoning Lathum.

hoopsguy · 03-29-2007, 01:27 PM

Er, to the liberal list since there is no "gay list" to put him on.

Blade6119 · 03-29-2007, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

there is no way I am doing that, I know I am good and by "taking one for the team" I would be hurting us.

I would rather take the chance DT and Tyrith were up to something. The way I see it is worst case scenerio DT is good, either way we are losing a good guy. If tyrith is so confident he will put himself on the list for tomorrow, we will both be on the list and if you feel compeled to lynch me then we don't lose a day after I come up good.

You keep saying this, but thats not happening since you wont put yourself on the list. Your one vote for DT lynch overrides all of our votes to add you to the liberal list. So tomorrow, we will have to revote for you to the list.

If you really believe what you say about being on the list, you need to put yourself on it...as otherwise we wont get around to this supposed stand-off you want for 3 freaking days.

Tyrith · 03-29-2007, 02:12 PM

More or less, Lathum, you undermined your entire argument by refusing to put yourself on the list. If you did, we could lynch you today and everyone would know one way or another about me tonight. But alas, that wouldn't do you much good, because you have to stall for time as one of them. It was, and still is, a valiant effort by someone caught redhanded.

Lathum · 03-29-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

More or less, Lathum, you undermined your entire argument by refusing to put yourself on the list. If you did, we could lynch you today and everyone would know one way or another about me tonight. But alas, that wouldn't do you much good, because you have to stall for time as one of them. It was, and still is, a valiant effort by someone caught redhanded.

there is no point to me putting myself on the list. I would just be removed anyway.

03-29-2007, 10:24 AM	#519
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I would seriously advise Tyrith to NOT put himself on the liberal list at this time. It would be much better to waste two days (which I doubt we will since there has not been anyone countering him) then to put himself in any kind of situation where there is a chance of being killed. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

03-29-2007, 10:24 AM	#520
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	VOTE NIGHTFALL __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

03-29-2007, 12:34 PM	#533
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Nobody has contradicted Tyrith. I just wish that if someone had the power to do a day kill they use it here before you can cause any more harm. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

03-29-2007, 12:38 PM	#537
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Lathum, if you want us to kill tyrith because he is lying, the most expedient way is to put yourself on the list today and then let us kill him tomorrow(or put him on the list, then kill him). If you dont, we will still have to vote you to the list tomorrow, kill you the day after, and then vote him, and kill him. Basically, if you are good you need to take one for the team(like cronin did) and put yourself on the list. If your vote remains on DT, you are to me just damaging the team, and are admitting guilt. Were around 8-2 or 7-3...a 1-1 swap is a very good thing for the village, and if you hold firm on DT then you are telling me everything i need to know __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

03-29-2007, 12:47 PM	#542
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Tyrith wont be going down for a an extra 2 days because of your actions, and even then i expect you to try and sabotage us again if someone else ends up on the list in the meantime. And i think your just lying...if you had a wolf, maybe 2 in a big day like this you would call him out and know the BG could buy you a day or 2. With the numbers, its totally in our favor to do so. __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

03-29-2007, 08:26 AM	#501
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i agree with Lathum. Tyrith ought to put himself on the list too. That way if one comes up bad we don't have to waste another day. that being said Lathum...how bout you put yourself on the list too? Save us that day and allow us to have a choice between you+tyrith (and me, although obviously I know I'm good so I would ask people to not vote for me). Don't ask someone else to do something you're not willing to do yourself.

03-29-2007, 08:49 AM	#504
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think either you are gay or Tyrith and the other gays are using you.

03-29-2007, 08:53 AM	#505
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	well i'm not gay lathum. but i agree that they are certainly liking the attention that i'm drawing. can anyone vouch for your heterosexuality?

03-29-2007, 09:04 AM	#507
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	If Lathum turns out good I will gladly offer myself for the ritual stoning I have coming to me for screwing up. However, I'm not right now going to offer myself as seer on a platter so that the dying Lathum can find some way into getting me offed. One step at a time.

03-29-2007, 09:06 AM	#508
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Tyrith, since you are around right now and there have been some questions about it - can you confirm that you are the seer? For what it is worth, I had no idea that I was observed on Night 0.

03-29-2007, 09:09 AM	#510
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Hoops, yes. More or less I scanning the list of people that scare me. At the moment I don't really suspect blade all that much -- I lean towards trusting him somewhat, but he's either very good or very bad. So what I'm really saying is that I don't know, but my gut all along has been pushing me towards good.

03-29-2007, 09:17 AM	#513
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Two things: 1) We still don't know what kinds of abilities you...shudders at word gays might have concerning people that are on that list. 2) You first.

03-29-2007, 09:19 AM	#514
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I sadly have a test now, and class for quite some time. Be back this afternoon.

03-29-2007, 09:22 AM	#516
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i don't want anyone to reveal, be it the seer or anyone else. it's just making yourself a target for a night-kill, or a brutal-gay kill. what if lathum is the brutal-wolf, and he wants you to reveal so he can take you with him? or he can take only someone on the list with him? i'd be very wary of saying anymore. if no one comes out by say...1pm EST to confirm anything about me so that i can gain trust in them, i will reveal what my tendency was...

03-29-2007, 09:28 AM	#517
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	DT, there was a similar concept to the brutal wolf that you are describing in the Tombstone game. But traditionally the brutal wolf can get anyone, not just a subset of the people in the game. If Lathum was playing brutal wolf I would expect him to try and extract as much information about other players before dying and then take the seer with him. He seems pretty focused on Tyrith at the moment, for better or worse. Now that Lathum has said his piece, I'm going to VOTE NIGHTFALL

03-29-2007, 09:31 AM	#518
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Realistically, I don't expect the nightfall to be honored anytime in the next few hours. But I think our course is pretty clear at the moment with regards to putting Lathum on the list. Any Tyrith debate can wait until after the evening deadline.

03-29-2007, 10:35 AM	#522
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If Tyrith knows that he is the seer, then what does he have to gain by doing so? It is only a show of faith to his fellow players, along with hoping that the wolves don't take a shot at him. The seer has value that should not be recklessly wasted. For what it is worth, I would be all over this point if you were advocating him putting himself on the list during the day cycle. As you are suggesting night, I'm still holding the position but less vociferously than I would otherwise. Sure the wolves can night kill him. But why make it easier for them to day kill him?

03-29-2007, 10:55 AM	#526
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	vote nightfall it's the trendy thing to do

03-29-2007, 11:55 AM	#527
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Lynch Daddytorgo you are either a gay or being used by tyrith

03-29-2007, 11:57 AM	#528
Ironhead College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Barnegat, NJ	I'm not buying into Lathum's song and dance. I think Tyrith is telling the truth on this one, and it would explain why he has kept such a low profile the first several days. I don't think it is a coincidence that Lathum was the only one willing to stone Cronin yesterday. VOTE LATHUM & NIGHTFALL

03-29-2007, 12:00 PM	#529
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I want to hear more from Tyrith before I vote nightfall.

03-29-2007, 12:26 PM	#531
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So you think a no lynch is better?

03-29-2007, 12:27 PM	#532
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I'm telling you I am not a gay, Tyrith is lying and go ahead and put me on the list. It doesn't matter but you are giving Tyrith and the rest of the gays another day.

03-29-2007, 12:45 PM	#541
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I have to go run some errands. I would like for there not to be nightfall until I come back.

03-29-2007, 12:48 PM	#543
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	plus it isn't really a 1-1 if Tyrith is a seer. for we know more than that and any COT can expand to add Hoops to it. narrowing down the possible gays.

03-29-2007, 01:01 PM	#544
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I don't know that I'm, going to honor nightfall votes. We'll see. I'm not around as much today as I am in other days. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-29-2007, 01:26 PM	#546
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Not surprised on the lynch vote - it obviously makes sense for Lathum to do it as a gay. It would keep him off the list for another day. Which is why I was asking earlier if anyone had a power to move someone to the gay list as a day action - if not, then it is going to take awhile to get around to stoning Lathum.

03-29-2007, 01:27 PM	#547
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Er, to the liberal list since there is no "gay list" to put him on.

03-29-2007, 02:12 PM	#549
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	More or less, Lathum, you undermined your entire argument by refusing to put yourself on the list. If you did, we could lynch you today and everyone would know one way or another about me tonight. But alas, that wouldn't do you much good, because you have to stall for time as one of them. It was, and still is, a valiant effort by someone caught redhanded.

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