Werewolf CXXX - Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book - SEEONEE WOLF PACK WINS!

[CrimsonFox]

Votes as of post #500:

1 - dwardzala - Narcizo (322)
1 - PackerFanatic - Darth Vilus (446)
2 - J23 - EagleFan (400) PackerFanatic (460)
1 - Autumn - Lathum (389)
1 - mckerney - J23 (419)
1 - EagleFan - MrBug (432)
2 - mauboy - Zinto (461) hoopsguy (491)
3 - DaddyTargo - Telle (466) Autumn (483) Jackal (485)
1 - Thomkal - mauboy (490)

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Do whatever u feel is necessary but to say I've been inactive means I'm a wolf doesn't mean much. Look at last game, I was a villager and didn't contribute much early on. I checked in late yesterday and have been more active than most people since..and for some yesterday being active was talking about pointless crap. High post counts don't always equate to being active with your likely definition.

Nope, that is a fair point. But trying to get a handle on playing styles, as a wolf or villager, is part of the game. And so is putting pressure on quieter players when there isn't something terribly tangible to work against.

I'm out for a couple of hours, but as long as my daughter goes to bed at a reasonable time I'll be around for the deadline tonight.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Has anyone else upgraded to the new Internet Explorer?

We have it at work, why?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by J23

Lathum,

Are you feeling ok?

I feel GRRRREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I feel GRRRREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tony?

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

We have it at work, why?

Was wondering if that had anything to do with my access to this board. Every time I click go to first new post it takes me to posts about 3 days ago (about the time I upgraded).

[dwardzala]

I think I want to tie this up and see what happens.

vote maubuoy

[PackerFanatic]

UNVOTE J23

[PackerFanatic]

VOTE MAUBOY

[mauchow]

REALLY?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Was wondering if that had anything to do with my access to this board. Every time I click go to first new post it takes me to posts about 3 days ago (about the time I upgraded).

It does that to me occasionally at random, but I find it fixes itself eventually. Maybe logging out and logging back in would help it fix itself? I dunno.

[DaddyTorgo]

Okay - so what's going on in this game of WW tonight?

[DaddyTorgo]

Whoa okay...why am i the vote leader???

[mauchow]

you aren't i am now

[CrimsonFox]

It is a very solemn day. The hunt goes normally and Akela leads you in taking down a wildebeest and a family of bunnies that were hiding eggs. You eat the bunnies and the eggs too. A good day in all. And then matters turn to something more important.

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YUM!

Akela howls his call and you all respond and head towards the field near the rock for a grim task.

A burial plot has been made up for your fallen brother Danny. He lays there covered by stones, only his tail sticks out.

Akela sings a line in an ancient wolf tongue, then continues,
"This brother was one of our own and it only befits us to send him into the spirit world with our good wishes. Please, if we could have some of our brothers step forward and eulogize his passing. We shall start with you."

He indicates the first wolf on the right. Everyone looks at the wolf and waits for him to say something. He does not. He just stares straight ahead with a blank look on his face. He wears a tag which reads "Gonzo".

"Come now. Please say a few words."

Akela looks at the wolf and nudges him. The wolf falls over. Akela sniffs the wolf and steps on him. His claw rips into him and white stuffing comes out.

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"Why this is not a wolf! There's nothing inside. Why, This is a stuffed animal! Who brought this? And to think I actually was going to vote for him."

The stuffed wolf is mended and given to the wolf cubs. They are teething so they tear it apart. Shreddings go everywhere. The stuffed Animal known as Gonzo was a vanilla villager.

[At this point, Gonzo has been MIA from the FOFC site for almost two days and I am just removing him. Everyone else I had asked does not have time for the game or never got back to me so I don't think it makes any sense to replace one MIA with another. He never factored much into the game thus far anyway.]

Akela continues, "Now where were we? Oh, yes. Let us all remember Danny."

Everyone has a good cry and a howl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L28CnhmeAD4


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[Now is the time when you all step forward and say all the nice things about playing with Danny.]

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well I'm heading home.. so I'm going to get my vote out there. I know this is only expanding the list, but I'll be around later to move it to consolidate if need be.

vote DaddyTorgo

Originally Posted by Autumn

Thanks for revealing, PF. FWIW, I think the best for the village is generally that you just place your duke order to kill the next leading vote getter. The village at least gets a lot of info when you do that.

I don't have a lot of time to think about a new vote, if this reveal is for real. I'll be heading out soon. I might go with DT. His posts had struck me as odd, and if other people also picked up on that we may have something there.

I'll give it a few minutes in case this is a off the wall wolf reveal, but will vote before I leave.

Originally Posted by Autumn

Zinto, my supposition is that for instance the hypnotist might not be in PM contact with the other baddies. there's a little bit of support for that in the flavor writeup, and I don't know that CF Would consider that a secret role. I just have seen the village go through a blame with bad rule assumptions before, I want to keep things open.

Lastly, I wouldn't discount the "screw with the village" option. They might have just wanted to fix the vote, and let the village spend a few days assuming that was meaningful. Not a bad option.

I guess I'm just going to ignore the tie for the time being. I have to leave now, so I'm just going to change to someone who should at least be relevant in a few hours and doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy.

unvote J23
vote daddy torgo

Originally Posted by The Jackal

No sign of DT yet? I've caught myself up. Bit hypocritical coming from someone who hasn't posted today yet, but though DT didn't seem "into the game" yet when he voted, his lack of contribution definitely reminds me of other games he's been a wolf and tried to stay alive, saving vehement defense for later days.

There's little point voting PF even if you think he's lying. If he is lying he'll get duked by the real duke as has been mentioned.

VOTE DT

Note everyone - this is how the run on me has developed so far. I'd be looking at these people, that's for damn sure.

[DaddyTorgo]

LOL - that's a great writeup about Gonzo CF!!!!!

[The Jackal]

Well, DT, just trying to get you involved. A lot of us are busy during the day for certain, but too often people coast through games as wolves without saying much and then there's very little to analyze them on.

Any thoughts on other candidates?

[EagleFan]

What did I miss? What is the case against DT and mau?

[MrBug708]

unvote - Eaglefan

Nice writeup on Gonzo btw

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Well, DT, just trying to get you involved. A lot of us are busy during the day for certain, but too often people coast through games as wolves without saying much and then there's very little to analyze them on.

Any thoughts on other candidates?

Aside from the Telle/Autumn duo who put two quick votes on me? I'd look there for starters - wouldn't surprise me if autumn was a wolf seizing on telle's putting me forward - even though there were a lot of candidates at that point it would be a good way to get someone up to 2...

[EagleFan]

Looks like we've turned day two into another day one. So far at least.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Well, DT, just trying to get you involved. A lot of us are busy during the day for certain, but too often people coast through games as wolves without saying much and then there's very little to analyze them on.

Any thoughts on other candidates?

I thought I was quite useful around deadline last night actually - moving around to keep the pressure on and force people to make moves that we can analyze.

[DaddyTorgo]

FYI - I'm going to be gone basically all day tomorrow. I have a 6am flight to Chicago and land back here in Boston at 7pm. I should make it home in time to catch up between 8 and 9 and get a vote in, but just thought I should let everyone know that.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by J23

CF,

Two questions:

1. Gonzo - Any luck contacting him? Any chance of a replacement?
2. Do the wolves know which villager roles are in the game and which aren't?

1. I have now answered that question.
2. No. No one knows which roles are in the game.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I thought I was quite useful around deadline last night actually - moving around to keep the pressure on and force people to make moves that we can analyze.

I think people might be looking at the results of the D1 voting and seeing you on mckerney and taking that to be that you stayed out of making a tough decision.

Also it's easy to point at the people that are voting for you and say "they must be wolves", I know that's how we all usually feel, but there's a lot more villagers left than wolves. Granted people have been casting suspicion at Autumn so that might not be the worst place to look. Telle has been fairly defensive of a couple of people if I recall, which is interesting without having any hard info to go on.

[CrimsonFox]

Votes as of post #526:

1 - dwardzala - Narcizo (322)
1 - PackerFanatic - Darth Vilus (446)
1 - J23 - EagleFan (400)
1 - Autumn - Lathum (389)
1 - mckerney - J23 (419)
4 - mauboy - Zinto (461) hoopsguy (491) dwardzala (507) PackerFanatic (509)
3 - DaddyTargo - Telle (466) Autumn (483) Jackal (485)
1 - Thomkal - mauboy (490)

[mauchow]

unvote thomka

Unvoting until later if it will even matter.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I think people might be looking at the results of the D1 voting and seeing you on mckerney and taking that to be that you stayed out of making a tough decision.

Also it's easy to point at the people that are voting for you and say "they must be wolves", I know that's how we all usually feel, but there's a lot more villagers left than wolves. Granted people have been casting suspicion at Autumn so that might not be the worst place to look. Telle has been fairly defensive of a couple of people if I recall, which is interesting without having any hard info to go on.

Of course. You know me - hell sometimes I don't even vote in self-defense, preferring to take the sure vanilla villager loss.

Just felt like the Telle/Autumn/You interplay was pretty quick there in vaulting me from zero votes to vote-leader, particularly with not a lot to back it up (not that after one day there would be).

[mauchow]

I guess I can vote now, I'll go with Lathum on this one..

vote autumn

[The Jackal]

Was a bit of a run to be sure. I guess I shouldn't speak for them, I was just looking for a different direction than PF since he revealed, and wanted to see what would happen if you were put up. So far, not much, mau is getting a little heat but doesn't appear to be anyone jumping to save you.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Was a bit of a run to be sure. I guess I shouldn't speak for them, I was just looking for a different direction than PF since he revealed, and wanted to see what would happen if you were put up. So far, not much, mau is getting a little heat but doesn't appear to be anyone jumping to save you.

Prolly cuz I'm vanilla villager.

[The Jackal]

I'm not opposed to an autumn vote. He's a great villager but great villagers usually make tough wolves to nail. And while lathums play seems a little out there to me I don't think he'd be harping so hard on someone if he was a wolf, so it might be a legitimate feeling, and he was onto JAG too wasnt he?

This posting from your phone business is lame

[DaddyTorgo]

Lathum suspects autumn? let me go check that out...that'd reinforce with my data point...

[DaddyTorgo]

Oh - just a vague feeling. Okay...nothing to reinforce my data point.

I liked Telle's point about bhlloy - and then noticed autumn jumping to the defense of bhlloy...which was interesting.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Even with me on the block, I agree, hoops. I know I am good and I know we got some good stuff late tonight, so hopefully it can help in the long-run.

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Now just take advantage of it and don't let me die in vain!

These few posts still scream "wolf" to me. The first one happened two minutes before deadline and the second one happened two minutes after deadline. It sounds like a wolf who knows whats about to go down. It doesn't sound like a duke who knows what's about to go down.

unvote autumn
vote packerfan

I say if he's the duke, save yourself tonight and off me, a vanilla villager. If you're not the duke we can save the duke for another night for the real duke.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

These few posts still scream "wolf" to me. The first one happened two minutes before deadline and the second one happened two minutes after deadline. It sounds like a wolf who knows whats about to go down. It doesn't sound like a duke who knows what's about to go down.

unvote autumn
vote packerfan

I say if he's the duke, save yourself tonight and off me, a vanilla villager. If you're not the duke we can save the duke for another night for the real duke.

Very interesting point mauboy. Very interesting. Particularly since he came out and revealed today.

Then again, if he's not the duke don't we presume that the true duke would duke the vote to him tonight anyways?

[mauchow]

I'm thinking if he is fake revealing the real duke should just come out and say it. If you're going to use it to kill him tonight you lose your ability anyway and become a regular villager at that point. Am I wrong on this point?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by dwardzala

Yeah, so what?

That just meant I didn't know he was the Duke, not that I am a wolf.

It could mean you are a wolf, looking for an easy place to put your vote today at least before Packer's reveal.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm thinking if he is fake revealing the real duke should just come out and say it. If you're going to use it to kill him tonight you lose your ability anyway and become a regular villager at that point. Am I wrong on this point?

Which obviously if no one comes out and says something I'll go ahead and once again unvote him and take one for the team as a plain villager.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm thinking if he is fake revealing the real duke should just come out and say it. If you're going to use it to kill him tonight you lose your ability anyway and become a regular villager at that point. Am I wrong on this point?

I honestly would prefer if we didn't vote Packer just to prove if he is the duke if he isn't he will get killed soon enough. I would rather see what will happen with some different candidates then him out there.

[Thomkal]

thank you for unvoting me mauboy, cause I was going to vote for you in return. Instead I'll go with one of the other early Packer voters

vote dwardzala

[Thomkal]

And great write-up, good decision on the Gonzo part there CF

[Zinto]

I am not really happy with the fact that there are 7 or 8 people with votes on them currently. We need to see some condensing of these votes.

[bhlloy]

I don't see anywhere good to go with this vote, after the PF reveal. I suspect one of Lathum or Autumn is a wolf who put a meaningless vote on JAG (which may have ended up not being meaningless) and that's why they are at each other's throats again.

Lathum is playing a wierd game. This feels like the game where he was a wolf and just tried to cause as much confusion in the first few days as possible. A vote for a new candidate yesterday 50 mins before the deadline, and then a meaningless switch right at the deadline?

Mauboy is all over the place, but that just seems to be the way he plays and I don't see a good reason to push him further out in front at this point.

I'm gonna go with my hunch and throw something out there. Not introducing Lathum at this late hour so

vote Autumn

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I don't see anywhere good to go with this vote, after the PF reveal. I suspect one of Lathum or Autumn is a wolf who put a meaningless vote on JAG (which may have ended up not being meaningless) and that's why they are at each other's throats again.

Lathum is playing a wierd game. This feels like the game where he was a wolf and just tried to cause as much confusion in the first few days as possible. A vote for a new candidate yesterday 50 mins before the deadline, and then a meaningless switch right at the deadline?

Mauboy is all over the place, but that just seems to be the way he plays and I don't see a good reason to push him further out in front at this point.

I'm gonna go with my hunch and throw something out there. Not introducing Lathum at this late hour so

vote Autumn

Interesting analysis and theory.

[J23]

Well, from the look of all the people up for lynching, I guess I'll look to consolidate the list a bit w/ my vote.

unvote mckerney

[CrimsonFox]

Votes as of post #547:

2 - dwardzala - Narcizo (322) Thomkal (542)
2 - PackerFanatic - Darth Vilus (446) mauboy (536)
1 - J23 - EagleFan (400)
2 - Autumn - Lathum (389) bhlloy (545)
4 - mauboy - Zinto (461) hoopsguy (491) dwardzala (507) PackerFanatic (509)
3 - DaddyTargo - Telle (466) Autumn (483) Jackal (485)

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Odd decision by Autumn. PF reveals and Autumn unvotes the person who was in second, basically giving PF even more of a lead at that time.

It's not odd at all. If you've been following along you'd see that a vote for J23 was predicated on the idea that he was trying to save PF. If PF is not a wolf, a vote for J23 doesn't make sense. You've been really active, EF, it's hard to believe you don't know this.

[J23]

I don't see a good reason to vote for the duke unless they counter-revealed. If they're still alive in a day or two, we can test the theory then and have some voting records to look at if it's a fake.

I guess I just don't see the Autumn thing. It seems like people are just following Lathum, who's been all over the map (though he did pick JAG out somehow). I'm guessing lightning doesn't strike twice.

DT's comments tonight don't strike me as suspicious, so I'm going w/ the other 2 vote candidate.

vote dwardzala