The 2013-2014 NCAA Coaching Carousel

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

We simply don't know who all was actually on the list and who Texas actually vetted and decided against on their own? The rumor was that Briles was ready to accept the Texas job if offered. Briles is higher on your "list" than Strong. So what happened? Why isn't he going to Texas?

It's an excellent question and it's one that the fans will be asking repeatedly over the coming years.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

This is FHM's list of the top 10 hottest girls


10. Georgia Salpa

9. Cheryl Cole

8. Kate Upton

7. Pixie Lott

6. Kaley Cuoco

5. Kelly Brook

4. Michelle Keegan

3. Helen Flanagan

2. Rihanna

1. Mila Kunis

So if you land Salpa, you had to settle and banged a pretty ugly girl...lol

I'd say she is one hell of a consolation prize.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's an excellent question and it's one that the fans will be asking repeatedly over the coming years.

You seem to know as much about the inner workings of Texas football as the athletic director. I thought you would know?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's an excellent question and it's one that the fans will be asking repeatedly over the coming years.

I LLLLOOOOVVVEEE it when MBBF makes his can't miss predictions!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

I LLLLOOOOVVVEEE it when MBBF makes his can't miss predictions!

It's even better when I'm right.

[cartman]

Even Manny Mendoza laughs at your batting average.

[CU Tiger]

Oh wow.
Even after they win a bowl game, MBBF is more obsessed with Texas than he is with his own team...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

Even Manny Mendoza laughs at your batting average.

Mizzou 41
OSU 31

OSU 38
Texas 14

[cartman]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Oh wow.
Even after they win a bowl game, MBBF is more obsessed with Texas than he is with his own team...

As German psychoanalyst Eric Fromm said, “The task we must set for ourselves is not to feel secure, but to be able to tolerate insecurity.”

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Oh wow.
Even after they win a bowl game, MBBF is more obsessed with Texas than he is with his own team...

Likely feels snubbed that Gary Pinkel wasn't on the Orangebloods.com list.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

As German psychoanalyst Eric Fromm said, “The task we must set for ourselves is not to feel secure, but to be able to tolerate insecurity.”

As Texas leadership says, "A bad year for Texas is better than a good year for Mizzou."

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Mizzou 41
OSU 31

OSU 38
Texas 14

OU 45
Alabama 31

Texas 36
OU 20

What's your fucking point, other than continuing to prove yourself as being a supreme ass?

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

As Texas leadership says, "A bad year for Texas is better than a good year for Mizzou."

You going to carry that butthurt to the grave?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

You going to carry that butthurt to the grave?

I'm assuming you're directing that question to the former Texas AD.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

As Texas leadership says, "A bad year for Texas is better than a good year for Mizzou."

There you go again, thinking a throwaway quote is the foundation for how the Texas athletic department operates.

Jesus Christ, I've seen less projection at an IMAX theater.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

OU 45
Alabama 31

Texas 36
OU 20

What's your fucking point, other than continuing to prove yourself as being a supreme ass?

LOL

Congrats on being indirectly better than the 3rd best team in the SEC. I guess that's the new measure at Texas.

"A bad year at Texas is still better than a good year by the 3rd best team in the SEC."

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I obviously don't know

Admitting the problem is the first step.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

LOL

Congrats on being indirectly better than the 3rd best team in the SEC. I guess that's the new measure at Texas.

"A bad year at Texas is still better than a good year by the 3rd best team in the SEC."

Assumed third best team since they never played each other, but you know, why let facts gets in the way?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Assumed third best team since they never played each other, but you know, why let facts gets in the way?

Agreed. South Carolina was likely a better team than Alabama in hindsight. Consider that post edited to reflect they were the 4th best team in the SEC.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Agreed. South Carolina was likely a better team than Alabama in hindsight. Consider that post edited to reflect they were the 4th best team in the SEC.

I have zero issue with 'Bama taking on SC either, but whatever.

[cartman]

If he indeed does decide to accept the job in the morning, I'm wondering who he is going to go after for coordinators. He has the defensive bona fides, which is something that went away under Diaz. I hope that Wyatt sticks around for recruiting, and Akina as the DB coach.

[gstelmack]

Should I start the pool for which thread MBBF will ruin next?

[miked]

Well, I'm sure every top program when they have an opening troll the list of currently employed hot coaches, I think hear Miles's name come up every season. Doesn't mean you settled on the 6th best option if the top 5 are not really looking to move. Strong was a coordinator on some BCS champion Gator teams and took the Ville from the middle/lower tier of the BE to a BCS team. How terrible a hire is that?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Oh wow.
Even after they win a bowl game, MBBF is more obsessed with Texas than he is with his own team...

SI

[Logan]

I really hope MBBF was shitfaced after a fun night of college football when he made those posts...there's no excuse for being that big of a prick sober.

I think Strong is a fantastic hire. He would have been a.lock to Florida if Muschamp was fired, and if this Texas opportunity doesn't work out, he'll be the choice next year I'd he doesn't save his job.

[Dr. Sak]

From all I've heard Al Golden will be the next coach at Penn State.

[corbes]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Just a disaster to go from Mack Brown to Charlie Strong.

To be fair, at the time Mack Brown was hired, he was the head coach at UNC and his resume included two 1-10 seasons at UNC and his crown jewel was a win in the 1992 Peach Bowl. I like the Strong hire for Texas.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Logan

I really hope MBBF was shitfaced after a fun night of college football when he made those posts...there's no excuse for being that big of a prick sober.

He must post here a lot drunk then.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by corbes

To be fair, at the time Mack Brown was hired, he was the head coach at UNC and his resume included two 1-10 seasons at UNC and his crown jewel was a win in the 1992 Peach Bowl. I like the Strong hire for Texas.

Yep. Rarely does a well established coach from a big program leave to go straight to another big program. There is usually a retirement or visit to the NFL first.

Meyer was at Bowling Green and Utah before landing at Florida
Stoops had only been a coordinator before going to Oklahoma
Tressel was at Youngstown State before going to Ohio State

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by cartman

Yep. Rarely does a well established coach from a big program leave to go straight to another big program. There is usually a retirement or visit to the NFL first.

Meyer was at Bowling Green and Utah before landing at Florida
Stoops had only been a coordinator before going to Oklahoma
Tressel was at Youngstown State before going to Ohio State

This is just crazy talk. The only time a hire is successful is if the coach is stolen from another big school!

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by corbes

To be fair, at the time Mack Brown was hired, he was the head coach at UNC and his resume included two 1-10 seasons at UNC and his crown jewel was a win in the 1992 Peach Bowl. I like the Strong hire for Texas.

Far be it for me to defend MBBF, but....

Brown was 9 years removed from those 1-10 seasons (and they were his first 2 in Chapel Hill) He had won 55 games in the last 6 years and finished his final season at NC ranked 5th or 6th depending on which poll you consult.

He also had 13 years of HC experience.

Brown was absolutely a big time hire.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Far be it for me to defend MBBF, but....

Brown was 9 years removed from those 1-10 seasons (and they were his first 2 in Chapel Hill) He had won 55 games in the last 6 years and finished his final season at NC ranked 5th or 6th depending on which poll you consult.

He also had 13 years of HC experience.

Brown was absolutely a big time hire.

But at the time it wasn't considered a home run hire. Then again, the expectations and situation weren't anywhere near what they are now. Mackovic was supposed to be the home run hire, and he fizzled out in a big way.

[corbes]

I'm a UNC alum and have been a fan since Dick Crum era. Mack was certainly the best coach we ever had in my lifetime. All I'm saying is that his national profile at the time he was hired was perhaps more modest than we remember now.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by corbes

To be fair, at the time Mack Brown was hired, he was the head coach at UNC and his resume included two 1-10 seasons at UNC and his crown jewel was a win in the 1992 Peach Bowl. I like the Strong hire for Texas.

I'd argue it was leading UNC to back to back top 10 finishes, but your overall point stands - those last couple years were fairly similar to Strong's past 2 at Louisville.

It will be interesting to see if Strong continues to recruit the risky kids he did at Louisville, and the school gives him the leeway to do so, or if Texas's pull is so great he doesn't have to.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by corbes

I'm a UNC alum and have been a fan since Dick Crum era. Mack was certainly the best coach we ever had in my lifetime. All I'm saying is that his national profile at the time he was hired was perhaps more modest than we remember now.

Yeah, I remember people were mad that Texas didn't get Gary Barnett, Bob Toledo or Butch Davis back in 1997.

[MrBug708]

Hiring Toledo would have been a total fail since he'd be at the job for just 2 years.

[GrantDawg]

Not to defend MBBF too much, but I would think it is pretty safe to say Strong was probably below UT's top five. But that had more to do with how high they were shooting, than any negative about the job. A school like UT (much like Alabama) should shoot really high, because they never know who that might be able to pull (look at the Saban hire).
That said, to say Strong was an underwhelming hire is just in the context of who they were going for. Compared to Saban (or Gruden, or any of the other stars they made runs at), yeah, pretty underwhelming. But Strong is a really good get for UT. He'll be a good fit for the program, and is an up-and-comer with some head coaching experience. I was afraid he'd end up at UF next year, and am personally sort of happy he didn't end up in the SEC.

[MrBug708]

I don't think people disagree that Strong wasn't the first choice, but that it was a total disaster of a coaching hire

[Vegas Vic]

Clearly, Oklahoma State was still demoralized after their season ending loss to Oklahoma, which also knocked them out of a BCS Bowl. If they were motivated, they would have destroyed Missouri.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I don't think people disagree that Strong wasn't the first choice, but that it was a total disaster of a coaching hire

He's amazing. And that is amazing.

[Ragone]

Apparently the hold up involves texas not wanting to take Clintt Hurtt and other members of strong's entourage.. this isn't over apparently..

Which as a Louisville fan, is rather irritating and amusing all in the same boat.. Jurich is one of the best Ad's in the nation.. but recruiting is coming up soon and coaches are already moving.. its holding them up from making a move..

[Klinglerware]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I definitely agree. Even if Whipple only wants to use us as a stepping stone, that'd require a huge improvement and set us up in a much better place to hire the next coach (or maybe hand if off to Don Brown again ), Plus, honestly as a MAC team that's pretty much our role in the 1A universe.

Curious if you know any more info on the Whipple to UConn/BC gigs falling through. I've heard the same thing - that he pushed for higher assistant salaries than either wanted to pay, but I've always thought there had to be something more. Either he came off too arrogantly to the Presidents, or pushed for a lowering of academic standards for players or something.

I don't know any more than you do on the previous Whipple candidacies. Other than the money/assistant coach demands being plausible, other reported reasons for Whipple losing out seem almost nonsensical. For example, Whipple losing the UConn job because "he did not have the support of CT high school coaches that Pasqualoni did" was a weird one--firstly because he coached for a couple of years at New Haven, and built strong New England programs at Brown and UMass; secondly, the amount of HS football talent that CT produces shouldn't make in-state ties that big of a concern.

His program at Brown did have some issues with LOIC and player discipline (at least for an Ivy), but I'm not sure if that would really be that big of a factor. Otherwise, I agree that there could be something unspoken going on that could have scuttled otherwise "shoo-in" HC candidacies at UConn and BC. Until he got hired at Miami, it also seemed strange that someone that had previously had a consistent track record for designing juggernaut offenses could barely get a sniff at OC opportunities in the five years after he left UMass.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Ragone

Apparently the hold up involves texas not wanting to take Clintt Hurtt and other members of strong's entourage.. this isn't over apparently..

Which as a Louisville fan, is rather irritating and amusing all in the same boat.. Jurich is one of the best Ad's in the nation.. but recruiting is coming up soon and coaches are already moving.. its holding them up from making a move..

Hurtt has a show cause so it's not as simple as just taking him, right? They need to go in front of the NCAA and actually stick their necks out for him. Which I'm guessing they could be really hesitant to do.

That being said, I doubt Strong would let that hold him back at the very end. Unless Hurtt has a reason he needs to be kept happy...

[Ragone]

I think that's part of it Logan.. guess we are gonna find out.. heh

[chadritt]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Should I start the pool for which thread MBBF will ruin next?

I would assume the playoff thread. Im even 90% sure exactly what he'll say but I dont want to post it because that will change his plans.

[Ragone]

Don't worry.. once the chiefs lose, that thread should be safe

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

From all I've heard Al Golden will be the next coach at Penn State.

Couple of places reporting an agreement in principle has been reached.

[Matthean]

I don't get why Gruden and some other so called A-list hires are so. People seem to think some people will show up and obvious success happens. I would much rather have a guy who's been coaching as of late versus some dude who's been out of it for six years. Let's not forget he was 57-55 with Tampa and that's with a 12-4 Super Bowl winning team to start off.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Ragone

Don't worry.. once the chiefs lose, that thread should be safe

Truthiness.

[tarcone]

With Strongs ties to Florida and landing at the jewel of Texas, where every kid in Texas wants to go. I see this hire as being outstanding.
Texas will be loaded with 5* Florida and Texas kids.