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That seems like the most probable ending, but I think we see all the different speculation because a lot of folks associated with the show (writers, actors, etc.) have indicated that the ending will be unexpected and not something that has been widely speculated. Last edited by Swaggs : 05-13-2010 at 03:33 PM. |
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there is no locke, so.....
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I just rewatched last week's episode and realized something...
We know have MIB with a soul and no body and Jacob with a body and no soul (his ashes that Hurley has). Me thinks the elctromagnetic event will reunite MIB's soul with Jacob's body allowing him to be killed. |
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Worthy of consideration.
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"The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW |
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Tonight was a great episode! My only regret was that they didn't spend longer on Jacob and the 4 candidates. This felt like it could have easily been a 1 1/2 hour or even 2 hour episode and not have felt drawn out. Plus I'm finally really getting into the alternate-timeline too.
For the first time in a few seasons, I really enjoyed Ben Linus again too. Him being the mischievous evil guy is so much better than the past year or so. |
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Totally with you, but the producers have said that they really don't want to have a "Sit down and explain everything" where they explain everything, which I know will be good in the long run, but damn...I was like "please keep explaining things!" during that part. ![]() Also loving Ben again. Always loved him, but seeing him back to his "normal" self is fun. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Well done -- I liked that they kind of let the four candidates sit down and some of the questions that the audience wanted answered. I thought Widmore would be playing a more central role and I hope we find out what his angle is/was in the finale.
The flash sideways is coming along pretty well now. Looks like the big event will be the concert that Jack's son is playing. I wonder if Juliet will make an appearance? |
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I thought Widmore would play a bigger role as we got to the end as well. It is definitely good to see big bad Ben again.
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I think they have explained as much as they're going to about the 'angles' motivations, etc. of the people we have met on the island (others, Dharma, Widmore). They are essentially all covered by the category of becoming corrupt in seeking the source of the island's power. The details are irrelevant (to the showrunners, not the audience I think).
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I'm still not putting Ben in the bad column. He had a legitimate bone to pick with Widmore (for killing Alex). Plus, Locke promised him the island for his help and then ended the show by saying he was going to destroy it kind of puts him in a grey area for me. Although, he did ask who else needed killing...so?
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I think you are right about Ben, Swaggs. He's likely making Flocke think he's on his side only to double cross him in the end. I don't think he's bad necessarily. It is just cool to see the old seasons 3-5 Ben come back.
I really hope a cool character like Richard doesn't go out like that. He needs a bigger send off than that.
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This, I don't think Widmore is dead. Ben saved him by shooting him (since the "rules" say he can't kill him) and tricked MIB into thinking he was on his side. If Jacob told Widmore everything he'd have to do then everything went according to plan just as it always has. There's no other reason to hide in the closet unless it's part of the plan. Besides if Ben was really going to kill Widmore before he told MIB his plans he would have done it right away AND there's no way Widmore tells MIB the truth. Widmore knows if MIB wins and gets off the island that Penny and everyone are dead anyways. |
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I have been very disappointed with this season and the resolution of this show. The following quote sums up my thoughts:
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So much of the past seasons of this show are pointless. Time travel, Dharma, etc, are all dead end plot points. In the grand scheme of it all, my favorite episode, The Constant, is meaningless. |
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Was The Constant time-travel? Or was it some sort of consciousness travel? If it's consciousness travel, then doesn't it seem quite relevant to the sideways vs. island plot thread?
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I hope you are wrong. There are many loose ends that will not be tied-up neatly. I think we will learn what the golden light means and that will explain time travel and Dharma, the Faradays (which means Widmore's motivations) as well as the bomb. The problem with the New York writer is that she still doesn't understand there is no framing device of good versus evil. If she has not figured out by now that Jacob is not pure good and MIB is not pure evil, then her opinions are no better than any other candy chomping fat chick who is hoping Jack and Sawyer will choose her over Kate. Both have nothing to do with the real story developing on LOST.
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"The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW Last edited by OldGiants : 05-20-2010 at 08:21 AM. |
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I agree with the New Yorker writer completely
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You can't deny her point. Three things are possible:
1. They were making it up pretty much as they went along. 2. They weren't making it up, but decided to really focus on red herrings for most of the time. 3. The finale is going to be mind-blowing in its ability to tie up loose ends.
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Story is there's an extra 20 mins of footage shot for the finale being included in the dvd/blu ray to answer more questions that fans might have but weren't able to fit into the episode or didn't focus on their resolution of the story.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Durham, NC, USA
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To me, Lost is like they filmed 6 seasons of a really good roleplaying game in a modern day setting. The Gamemasters (the writers) knew where they wanted to start and where they were going to end, and probably had a few key mile markers/scenes that they could see from Day 1. But like any game, you have to adjust for adding players and players leaving, and players not doing exactly what you expect. You have broad swatches of what you want to do planned, but you're making up all the details along the way because you have to - it's interactive with the players. It's a point inbetween knowing everything and completely making it up from moment to moment. And just like Lost, the best roleplaying campaigns are about the journey and the story along the way. You hope that the GM will wrap it up really nicely at the end, but if he doesn't, it didn't invalidate the good time you had playing in the first place.
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All that means is that you are content to be completely wrong, too.
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"The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW |
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Those three things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I say those three things are essential to create a compelling work of fiction in any genre. You start with an idea, grow that into an outline, then fill in. Along the way, you embellish, change to better ideas, but keep the central premise in mind. That is how it is always done. Learn about JK Rowling who is close to the best in terms of knowing exactly where she was going and who everyone was. She always claimed to know exactly what the final few words would be, yet when she got there, she admitted she altered them. That is how it always is for any great writer.
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Malifcent and OldGiants - I am actually not bitter about much, and have enjoyed every season very much.
I suppose this should wait until after tomorrow night, but I guess the point the writer makes that I agree with is so much time was spent on Charles Widmore as the main antagonist of the show; if his participation is finished at this point I find it disappointing. It just seems liked a significant plot strand dropped. And FWIW I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere (I read too much about this show to pull it up right now) they hadn't really decided on the Jacob/MiB dichotomy until at least after the first season; I don't feel this particularly detracts from where they've gone, but it does make it true that they haven't known all along where this was going. They say they've known the last scene from tomorrow's episode since the beginning, and I believe that. I'm just not sure it's going to be necessarily about what we've been watching the five seasons since.
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Well, I'm just a tad late to the party but my wife and I just caught up tonight
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Gonna miss you, Lost.
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I am more excited for this series finale than I was for the Sopranos.
I hope the Dynamic Duo doesn't let us down.
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so, what's the deal tonight. 2 hour cast interview first?
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2 hours of self congratulation first
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There is an hour of the Jimmy Kimmel Show celebrating Lost afterwards (maybe after the local news?), as well.
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#534 |
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into the light ya go desmond
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We might come back to it, but
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SI - I disagree. The light isn't gone and that was his job to protect it. I think the island sinks in that timeline, but arises in the other.
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If the episode has finished, can someone please sum it all up in like one paragraph for someone who watched all of season 1, lost interest 2 episodes in to season 2, and then never watched it again? Thanks.
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about an hour left
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Jack is terrible at protecting the island.
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remember earlier in the series when they said the black smoke was the island's security system?
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One of many things they said and later decided to ignore.
This episode has been great so far.
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a good finale
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ROFL. Figured it out. NVM.
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Absolutely great finale.
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I dunno. To me, they excellently explained the "flash sideways" part of the plot. They kindof neglected to explain the, you know, "real world/island" part.
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Jack died. Hurley and Ben stay on the island to protect it and everyone else made it off on the plane.
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I'm asolutely positively and completely.....meh
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I think what happened was Jack died. Then the plane crashed and Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Miles, Richard, and Frank died. I believe Desmond, Hurley, and Ben survived to protect the island then they finally decided to step down.
Hence Hurley's comment that Ben was a good number 2 implying that they lived for a long while after.
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