Werewolf CXXIV - Watchmen (Game Over, Wolves Win!, endpost:704) - Page 12

jeff061 · 02-04-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Very wrong about me, and now making me wonder about you.

Well christ man, I've been pointing the cunning finger at you and Hoops for days. This isn't something new

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But at this point I'd about bet money on that lineup.

EagleFan · 02-04-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Well christ man, I've been pointing the cunning finger at you and Hoops for days. This isn't something new

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But at this point I'd about bet money on that lineup.

I'll bet the house against your lineup.

I would say hoops is the cunning at this point, but not willing to bet on that one yet.

jeff061 · 02-04-2011, 06:34 PM

I am going to go as far as saying they specifically picked that role for J2D so they could make a reason to vote him.

Honestly, I am aware of why Chief wants to vote me and I was aware that my logic was dooming me. My logic was solid as is Chief's.

But at this point I am VERY certain Saldana is the right call for tonight.

J2D: Brutal
Eagle: Cunning
Saldana: Other type of wolfI'd be amazed if this doesn't pan out.

EagleFan · 02-04-2011, 06:41 PM

Whatever happens it's been fun. Might as well go with what I have been trying. You guys can take it from there. If you are going to lynch me you might as well do it now so we can lose the game sooner instead of later.

vote saldana

PackerFanatic · 02-04-2011, 06:45 PM

UNVOTE J23
VOTE SALDANA

Chief Rum · 02-04-2011, 06:57 PM

Right, Darth should be protected. Okay, I am less concerned about leaving jeff/Darth untested through tonight, so long as PF is paying attention (and it looks like he is; he just posted).

I am also leaning toward jeff talling the truth. I'll be honest, I would be shocked if jeff is a wolf. My read on him all game has been good, and although I'm no hoops, I'm not usually so off either.

Why does that matter? Consider the roles then for the village (calling BS on J23 at the moment): seer, BG, duke with BG inheritance powers and lovers (at least). We had a fake seer and a cultist, which I'll call a draw. Point is, though, that's a lot roled villagers with some power. As such, I just can't see the wolves having just two, which had been my thinking from my night time post. They must have three wolves, and for sure, one of the three I already scanned is a cunning wolf, because there aren't enough uncleareds, otherwise.

Going with that, even though my vibe leans more toward villager now, I have to agree that saldana is definite possibility as a wolf.

He does seem to be the forgotten man here, and J23 does seem to be drawing attention away and toward himself.

UNVOTE JEFF61
VOTE SALDANA

Chief Rum · 02-04-2011, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

I am going to go as far as saying they specifically picked that role for J2D so they could make a reason to vote him.

Honestly, I am aware of why Chief wants to vote me and I was aware that my logic was dooming me. My logic was solid as is Chief's.

But at this point I am VERY certain Saldana is the right call for tonight.

J2D: Brutal
Eagle: Cunning
Saldana: Other type of wolfI'd be amazed if this doesn't pan out.

I agree with your lineup here, jeff, except I don't know about Eagle as the cunning yet. I would pick him right now with a gun to my head, but if we don't get him tonight, I think we should keep an open mind to hoops or Danny (less likely, IMO) being the cunning.

jeff061 · 02-04-2011, 07:04 PM

Yeah one day at a time...though Eagle's push away from Saldana and toward J2D today is kind of my linchpin when it comes to identifying the brutal though.

Danny · 02-04-2011, 07:05 PM

I'm home now, you guys made a lot of posts for me to catch up on.

Chief Rum · 02-04-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Yeah one day at a time...though Eagle's push away from Saldana and toward J2D today is kind of my linchpin when it comes to identifying the brutal though.

I can definitely see it. His early behavior suggests the possibility, too.

BTW, it's J23, not J2D.

Danny · 02-04-2011, 07:26 PM

Looks pretty clear we are lynching Saldana. I agree with this move. I've had a good read on Jeff all game and I find it more likely the lovers are in the game than the 2nd silk spectre (or EF's role for that matter). I also got some desperation from reading J23's posts today. Though maybe that intentional because he is the brutal?

The only other possible move would be to follow what Chief said and lynch Jeff making sure the wolves don't get a double kill. Lynching anyone else would be a terrible play. That said, I think it's more likely we find a wolf with Saldana

Danny · 02-04-2011, 07:37 PM

J2D? Sounds like a star wars robot

jeff061 · 02-04-2011, 07:40 PM

I swear every time I type out his name my brain says J2D for some reason, then I check it and make the correction. Guess I forgot that time.

Danny · 02-04-2011, 08:09 PM

I'm going to work out now. I'll check in after and before I leave for bowling to make sure nothing eventful has happened.

saldana · 02-04-2011, 08:09 PM

again, not sure exactly what i have done to make anyone think i am a wolf...i have done nothing but provide analysis that no one has been able to refute, and get "saved" by a known villager.

is my voting record great, no, but neither are alot of other people that are "cleared"

im a vanilla villager, plain and simple.

J23 · 02-04-2011, 08:53 PM

Probably academic at this point, but moving off Darth in case the lovers reveal is legit.

unvote Darth
vote Saldana

hoopsguy · 02-04-2011, 09:08 PM

I'll go ahead and put a vote on Saldana as well, with the expectation that PF may end up doing something different with the vote later.

VOTE SALDANA

Danny · 02-04-2011, 09:32 PM

About to get ready to leave. Fingers crossed*

Darth Vilus · 02-04-2011, 09:32 PM

SORRY!!! I was supposed to be home two hours ago but my asshole bosses made me stay. So I've got to catch up real quick

Danny · 02-04-2011, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

SORRY!!! I was supposed to be home two hours ago but my asshole bosses made me stay. So I've got to catch up real quick

Better be real quick, we got business to take care of tonight. Dad has to work late so we are on our own. Got to bring our A game.

Darth Vilus · 02-04-2011, 09:37 PM

Aww crap really? Oh well, we'll have to both shoot 700 to make sure.

Vote Saldana

hoopsguy · 02-04-2011, 09:38 PM

DV, Jeff shared some info about you - care to confirm/deny?

Darth Vilus · 02-04-2011, 09:40 PM

Yes, I am indeed the hot chick. Call me Laurie guys :-)

Darth Vilus · 02-04-2011, 09:41 PM

Silk Spectree II

Darth Vilus · 02-04-2011, 09:42 PM

*Spectre

Darth Vilus · 02-04-2011, 09:43 PM

heading out now, I'll catch you guys when i get back. Good luck

saldana · 02-04-2011, 09:45 PM

is the whole damn village on me?

hoopsguy · 02-04-2011, 09:52 PM

Kind of appears that way, but only DV and I are around for discussion at this hour on Friday night.

Chief Rum · 02-04-2011, 09:57 PM

well, I just checked in. So i am here. I'm still at work. Sucks.

The Jackal · 02-04-2011, 10:31 PM

So Saldana by a landslide it looks like?

saldana · 02-04-2011, 10:33 PM

The Jackal · 02-04-2011, 10:50 PM

Another day sees a hunk of reveals, and no one is truly sure who they can believe. At the end of the day, you decide upon a candidate who has just barely escaped the lynch before.

Saldana approaches the guillotine, coughing and sputtering. He smiles wickedly as he is set into the device, rasping out some final words as his head is removed,

"Die, Minutemen! Curse you all!"

saldana was Moloch the Mystic!

The Jackal · 02-04-2011, 10:51 PM

Enjoy your weekend folks, hope you are enjoying the game, I sure am. Night actions due Monday 930 am est.

Chief Rum · 02-04-2011, 10:53 PM

Awesome! Good call, jeff61!

PackerFanatic · 02-04-2011, 11:27 PM

Huzzah! Glad we got one

EagleFan · 02-05-2011, 12:20 AM

If you would have listened to me a couple days ago...

EagleFan · 02-05-2011, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

Yeah one day at a time...though Eagle's push away from Saldana and toward J2D today is kind of my linchpin when it comes to identifying the brutal though.

Where exactly did I push away from saldana? I have been saying him for days now.

Danny · 02-05-2011, 03:51 AM

Good news with the lynch. Bad news is Darth and I bowled poorly and we lost 3 of 4 games.

Darth Vilus · 02-05-2011, 04:21 AM

Yup yup, it wasn't in the cards for us tonight

jeff061 · 02-05-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Where exactly did I push away from saldana? I have been saying him for days now.

The second half of yesterday. You weren't pushing away to save Saldana, that's not my point. You were pushing away to lynch J23 the brutal. Anyways, plenty of time to discuss.

J23=Brutal. As sure of that as I was Saldana. And still pretty sure Eagle's cunning.

jeff061 · 02-05-2011, 09:48 AM

And Lathum = Least valuable player for this game

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EagleFan · 02-05-2011, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

The second half of yesterday. You weren't pushing away to save Saldana, that's not my point. You were pushing away to lynch J23 the brutal. Anyways, plenty of time to discuss.

J23=Brutal. As sure of that as I was Saldana. And still pretty sure Eagle's cunning.

Made no push on j23 yesterday. All I did was present possibilities. We lose if we go by your list and the wolves win. There is one scenario where I can guarantee a victory for us but first two things need to happen. I am not going to say what they are at this time, however, as it does us no good to tip our hand during this time.

hoopsguy · 02-05-2011, 12:07 PM

All of the analysis over the weekend doesn't really help too much. The wolves are going to have to make some interesting decisions and that will likely provide us with some clarity for the next day phase.

And I'm a guy that LOVES talking about this stuff, but at this point I don't see the point in it. We run the risk of providing the wolves with greater clarity for their night actions by excess discussion today. I just hope that everyone is ready for a good day of discussion on Monday.

Lathum · 02-05-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

And Lathum = Least valuable player for this game

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yeah, I messed that up.

Chief Rum · 02-05-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

All of the analysis over the weekend doesn't really help too much. The wolves are going to have to make some interesting decisions and that will likely provide us with some clarity for the next day phase.

And I'm a guy that LOVES talking about this stuff, but at this point I don't see the point in it. We run the risk of providing the wolves with greater clarity for their night actions by excess discussion today. I just hope that everyone is ready for a good day of discussion on Monday.

Exactly. This is one of the reasons I don't like to have night phases last a whole weekend (of course, I usually run one deadline games anyway, but you get the point...).

Danny · 02-06-2011, 04:57 PM

Vote Steelers

Go Packers!

EagleFan · 02-06-2011, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Vote Steelers

Go Packers!

+1

Darth Vilus · 02-07-2011, 01:25 AM

Prince Akeem: Sir, did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?
Cleo McDowell: No, I didn't.
Prince Akeem: Oh sir, the Giants of New York took on the Packers of Green Bay. And in the end, the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big "H". It was a most ripping victory.
Cleo McDowell: Son.
Prince Akeem: Yes?
Cleo McDowell: If you want to keep working here, stay off the drugs.
Prince Akeem: Yes

The Jackal · 02-07-2011, 09:34 AM

You wake up and once more find all of your numbers intact. Divine providence? Luck? Or something sinister?

Day five begins!

jeff061 · 02-07-2011, 09:41 AM

Either smart bodyguard play or someone outsmarted themselves.

02-04-2011, 06:34 PM	#553
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I am going to go as far as saying they specifically picked that role for J2D so they could make a reason to vote him. Honestly, I am aware of why Chief wants to vote me and I was aware that my logic was dooming me. My logic was solid as is Chief's. But at this point I am VERY certain Saldana is the right call for tonight. J2D: Brutal Eagle: Cunning Saldana: Other type of wolfI'd be amazed if this doesn't pan out. __________________

02-04-2011, 06:41 PM	#554
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Whatever happens it's been fun. Might as well go with what I have been trying. You guys can take it from there. If you are going to lynch me you might as well do it now so we can lose the game sooner instead of later. vote saldana __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

02-04-2011, 06:57 PM	#556
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Right, Darth should be protected. Okay, I am less concerned about leaving jeff/Darth untested through tonight, so long as PF is paying attention (and it looks like he is; he just posted). I am also leaning toward jeff talling the truth. I'll be honest, I would be shocked if jeff is a wolf. My read on him all game has been good, and although I'm no hoops, I'm not usually so off either. Why does that matter? Consider the roles then for the village (calling BS on J23 at the moment): seer, BG, duke with BG inheritance powers and lovers (at least). We had a fake seer and a cultist, which I'll call a draw. Point is, though, that's a lot roled villagers with some power. As such, I just can't see the wolves having just two, which had been my thinking from my night time post. They must have three wolves, and for sure, one of the three I already scanned is a cunning wolf, because there aren't enough uncleareds, otherwise. Going with that, even though my vibe leans more toward villager now, I have to agree that saldana is definite possibility as a wolf. He does seem to be the forgotten man here, and J23 does seem to be drawing attention away and toward himself. UNVOTE JEFF61 VOTE SALDANA __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

02-04-2011, 07:04 PM	#558
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Yeah one day at a time...though Eagle's push away from Saldana and toward J2D today is kind of my linchpin when it comes to identifying the brutal though. __________________

02-04-2011, 07:40 PM	#563
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I swear every time I type out his name my brain says J2D for some reason, then I check it and make the correction. Guess I forgot that time. __________________

02-04-2011, 06:45 PM	#555
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	UNVOTE J23 VOTE SALDANA

02-04-2011, 07:05 PM	#559
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm home now, you guys made a lot of posts for me to catch up on.

02-04-2011, 07:26 PM	#561
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Looks pretty clear we are lynching Saldana. I agree with this move. I've had a good read on Jeff all game and I find it more likely the lovers are in the game than the 2nd silk spectre (or EF's role for that matter). I also got some desperation from reading J23's posts today. Though maybe that intentional because he is the brutal? The only other possible move would be to follow what Chief said and lynch Jeff making sure the wolves don't get a double kill. Lynching anyone else would be a terrible play. That said, I think it's more likely we find a wolf with Saldana

02-04-2011, 07:37 PM	#562
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	J2D? Sounds like a star wars robot

02-04-2011, 08:09 PM	#564
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm going to work out now. I'll check in after and before I leave for bowling to make sure nothing eventful has happened.

02-04-2011, 08:09 PM	#565
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	again, not sure exactly what i have done to make anyone think i am a wolf...i have done nothing but provide analysis that no one has been able to refute, and get "saved" by a known villager. is my voting record great, no, but neither are alot of other people that are "cleared" im a vanilla villager, plain and simple.

02-04-2011, 08:53 PM	#566
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Probably academic at this point, but moving off Darth in case the lovers reveal is legit. unvote Darth vote Saldana

02-04-2011, 09:08 PM	#567
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'll go ahead and put a vote on Saldana as well, with the expectation that PF may end up doing something different with the vote later. VOTE SALDANA

02-04-2011, 09:32 PM	#568
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	About to get ready to leave. Fingers crossed*

02-04-2011, 09:32 PM	#569
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	SORRY!!! I was supposed to be home two hours ago but my asshole bosses made me stay. So I've got to catch up real quick __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-04-2011, 09:37 PM	#571
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Aww crap really? Oh well, we'll have to both shoot 700 to make sure. Vote Saldana __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-04-2011, 09:38 PM	#572
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	DV, Jeff shared some info about you - care to confirm/deny?

02-04-2011, 09:40 PM	#573
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Yes, I am indeed the hot chick. Call me Laurie guys :-) __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-04-2011, 09:41 PM	#574
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Silk Spectree II __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-04-2011, 09:42 PM	#575
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Spectre __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it.*" ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-04-2011, 09:43 PM	#576
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	heading out now, I'll catch you guys when i get back. Good luck __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-04-2011, 09:45 PM	#577
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	is the whole damn village on me?

02-04-2011, 09:52 PM	#578
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Kind of appears that way, but only DV and I are around for discussion at this hour on Friday night.

02-04-2011, 09:57 PM	#579
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	well, I just checked in. So i am here. I'm still at work. Sucks. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

02-04-2011, 10:31 PM	#580
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So Saldana by a landslide it looks like?

02-04-2011, 10:33 PM	#581
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	yup

02-04-2011, 10:50 PM	#582
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Another day sees a hunk of reveals, and no one is truly sure who they can believe. At the end of the day, you decide upon a candidate who has just barely escaped the lynch before. Saldana approaches the guillotine, coughing and sputtering. He smiles wickedly as he is set into the device, rasping out some final words as his head is removed, "Die, Minutemen! Curse you all!" saldana was Moloch the Mystic!

02-04-2011, 10:51 PM	#583
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Enjoy your weekend folks, hope you are enjoying the game, I sure am. Night actions due Monday 930 am est.

02-04-2011, 10:53 PM	#584
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Awesome! Good call, jeff61! __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

02-04-2011, 11:27 PM	#585
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Huzzah! Glad we got one

02-05-2011, 12:20 AM	#586
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	If you would have listened to me a couple days ago... __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

02-05-2011, 03:51 AM	#588
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Good news with the lynch. Bad news is Darth and I bowled poorly and we lost 3 of 4 games.

02-05-2011, 04:21 AM	#589
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Yup yup, it wasn't in the cards for us tonight __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-05-2011, 09:48 AM	#591
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	And Lathum = Least valuable player for this game . __________________

02-05-2011, 12:07 PM	#593
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	All of the analysis over the weekend doesn't really help too much. The wolves are going to have to make some interesting decisions and that will likely provide us with some clarity for the next day phase. And I'm a guy that LOVES talking about this stuff, but at this point I don't see the point in it. We run the risk of providing the wolves with greater clarity for their night actions by excess discussion today. I just hope that everyone is ready for a good day of discussion on Monday.