Werewolf XXXIX: The Lady of La Rochelle–GAME OVER.

[Blade6119]

Alan, i hope you make it through the duel if your in it..what else will i do the rest of the game if not hunt you?

[DaddyTorgo]

well this should be interesting. i daresay we may end up learning more from this day one than from any other day one that i've seen.

[Grammaticus]

Yes time is up

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Alan, i hope you make it through the duel if your in it..what else will i do the rest of the game if not hunt you?

lol.. I am very interested to see what happens next

[Grammaticus]

I have the following vote total, can someone confirm?

(6) Fouts – Chief Rum (194), Alan (261), Jonathan (264), Izulde (314), Lonestargirl (473), SnDvls (504)
(5) Izulde - Path (412), Hoopsguy (421), St.cronin (426), Ntndeacon (434), Mr.Wednesday (439)
(3) Dubb - Barkeep (120), Lathum (160), Fouts (484)
(3) Ntndeacon - Tyrith (301), DaddyTorgo (310), BrianD (505).
(2) St.cronin - Anxiety (209), Blade (539)
(1) Hoopsguy - Coffee Warlord (271)
(1) Tyrith - Dubb (378)

Have not voted –

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I have the following vote total, can someone confirm?

(6) Fouts – Chief Rum (194), Alan (261), Jonathan (264), Izulde (314), Lonestargirl (473), SnDvls (504)
(5) Izulde - Path (412), Hoopsguy (421), St.cronin (426), Ntndeacon (434), Mr.Wednesday (439)
(3) Dubb - Barkeep (120), Lathum (160), Fouts (484)
(3) Ntndeacon - Tyrith (301), DaddyTorgo (310), BrianD (505).
(2) St.cronin - Anxiety (209), Blade (539)
(1) Hoopsguy - Coffee Warlord (271)
(1) Tyrith - Dubb (378)

Have not voted –

Thats what I have also. I did not confirm the vote numbers however

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I stated my reasons for voting for Fouts. He was acting suspicious, and UTR. If this gets me killed, so be it. You are killing a regular Cardinal then, Fouts. Keep that in mind.

At least I have reasons for voting for you. Your only reason is revenge, and it's a pretty piss poor one.

Not really. I have my theories on who has a better chance at being bad. I am more concerned about saving myself, and not killing a seer role.

So the easiest thing to do is pick out somebody who is pushing the hardest.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

well this should be interesting. i daresay we may end up learning more from this day one than from any other day one that i've seen.

What about the day one when we voted illini, he was the duke, duked it to the brutal wolf, who then took the seer with him? lol, we won that game on night 1 i think when the 2 evil guys tked each other...good game that was

[Alan T]

Just in case something bad does end up happening to me.. here is today's vote breakdown. Not sure if useful or not, but here it is none the less.

(92) Tyrith votes Hoopsguy (1)
(93) St.Cronin votes tyrith (1)
(95) St.Cronin UNVOTES Tyrith (0) ***
(97) Blade votes St.Cronin (1)
(110) Izulde votes Coffee Warlord (1)
(120) Barkeep votes Dubb (1)
(130) Dubb votes barkeep (1)
(160) Lathum votes Dubb (2)
(165) Ntndeacon votes BrianD (1)
(170) Dubb UNVOTES Barkeep (0) ***
(170) Dubb votes Lathum (1)
(177) St.cronin votes Sndvls (1)
(179) Alan votes Izulde (1)
(194) Chief Rum votes Fouts (1)
(195) St.Cronin UNVOTES Sndvls (0) ***
(195) St.cronin votes Lonestargirl (1)
(197) Blade UNVOTES St.cronin (0) ***
(197) Blade votes BrianD (2)
(209) Anxiety votes St.cronin (1)
(216) Alan UNVOTES Izulde (0) ***
(216) Alan Votes BrianD (3)
(228) Sndvls votes BrianD (4)
(254) Fouts votes Chief Rum (1)
(261) Alan UNVOTES BrianD (3) ***
(261) Alan votes Fouts (2)
(263) Sndvls UNVOTES BrianD (2) ***
(264) Jonathan votes Fouts (3)
(271) Coffee Warlord votes Hoopsguy (2)
(273) Blade UNVOTES BrianD (1) ***
(273) Blade votes Lonestargirl (2)
(276) Tyrith UNVOTES Hoopsguy (1) ***
(301) Tyrith votes ntndeacon (1)
(310) DaddyTorgo votes Ntndeacon (2)
(314) Izulde UNVOTES Coffee Warlord (0) ***
(314) Izulde votes Fouts (4)
(352) St.cronin UNVOTES Lonestargirl (1) ***
(352) St.cronin votes Ntndeacon (3)
(378) Dubb UNVOTES Lathum (0) ***
(378) Dubb votes Tyrith (1)
(384) Ntndeacon UNVOTES Brian (0) ***
(384) ntndeacon votes St.cronin (2)
(391) Fouts UNVOTES Chief Rum (0) ***
(391) Fouts votes St.cronin (3)
(398) Lonestargirl votes St.cronin (4)
(404) Fouts UNVOTES St.cronin (3) ***
(404) Fouts votes Chief Rum (1)
(408) Ntndeacon UNVOTES St.cronin (2) ***
(408) Ntndeacon votes Brian (1)
(412) Path votes Izulde (1)
(421) Hoopsguy votes Izulde (2)
(424) Fouts UNVOTES Chief Rum (0) ***
(424) Fouts votes Izulde (3)
(426) St.cronin UNVOTES Ntndeacon (2) ***
(426) St.cronin votes Izulde (4)
(434) Ntndeacon UNVOTES Brian (0) ***
(434) Ntndeacon votes Izulde (5)
(439) Mr.Wednesday votes Izulde (6)
(473) Lonestargirl UNVOTES St.cronin (1) ***
(473) Lonestargirl votes Fouts (5)
(484) Fouts UNVOTES Izulde (5) ***
(484) Fouts votes Dubb (3)
(503) Blade UNVOTES Lonestargirl (0) ***
(504) Sndvls Votes Fouts (6)
(505) BrianD votes Ntndeacon (3)
(539) Blade votes St.Cronin (2)

[st.cronin]

looks right Gram

[DaddyTorgo]

i didn't play that game though blade. notice i said "games that i've played."

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i didn't play that game though blade. notice i said "games that i've played."

Eh, technicalities...i miss danz, wish he still played.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Not really. I have my theories on who has a better chance at being bad. I am more concerned about saving myself, and not killing a seer role.

So the easiest thing to do is pick out somebody who is pushing the hardest.

Hardest or first? All I did was state a logical case for you, and for path and for LSG. I would have switched to LSG if I had been around, and if you hadn't made a dumb mistake by forgetting you had posted before.

I still think you look very suspicious, but all told, I probably would have voted for dubb over any UTR targets it f I thought a wolf would be so bold on Day One. If I still live, he probably gets my vote on Day Two (should other information not come to light).

[Grammaticus]

You all gather in the courtyard. The imposing apparatus known as the Guillotine is standing in the background. You know that if you receive majority lynch, it is off with your head. You all shudder at the thought.

Your Commander Captain Grenier, steps forward with a beautiful sandalwood box. M. Grenier say “In this box I have two fine wheelock dueling pistols”. You are all excited for a break in the dull day, a duel will certainly make for some sport.

M. Grenier says “today you have not spoken in majority and have left the choice up to a contest of arms. Allowing the warriors to guide their own fate”.

At that moment Fouts steps forward and begs pardon to M. Grenier, asking to have a word. Fouts clears his throat and say “Gentleman, for those who do not know me, my name is Fouts and I have just been promoted to the post of Lieutenant and am now second in command to Captain Grenier. Fouts produces a letter of promotion and Grenier reads over it acknowledging its legitimacy.

Fouts say “As my first act as your Lieutenant, I will not take place in the duel today. Instead, we will use the Guillotine and we will use it on Chief Rum”.

M. Grenier scratches his head and says, “I will allow this action, but one time only”. If you are voted again M. Fouts, you must face the outcome.

Two soldiers grab Chief Rum and drag him to the mighty apparatus, locking his head and hands in place under the giant blade. With a word from M. Grenier, the blade drops and Chief Rum’s head rolls across the courtyard. You look on in astonishment as the flash of light leaves Chief Rums eyes.

You quickly retrieve the key to Chief’s room and run to check its contents. You find a worn red sash of office in his wardrobe. But alas, you also find a certificate of membership in the order of Chevaliers de la Reine, a secret society.

Chief Rum has been lynched, killed by be-heading. Chief Rum was a Cardinals Guard.

[Chief Rum]

In other words, if you don't make a silly mistake when you come back, you don't feel this heat. And you compund it with another one if I die. You're hitting like a star!

[Grammaticus]

Night actions are due in by 6am Monday morning. If I recieve all actions early, I will process the night round early.

[Chief Rum]

(does a bow for the assembly)

Congrats, Fouts. Terrific move there.

Good luck everyone. Don't forget what happened today.

[DaddyTorgo]

grrrrr


sorry CR!

oh wait...it had nothing to do with me. Hopefully Fouts has some other power and your death was worth it, otherwise it seems pretty pointless.

*shrug*

[BrianD]

Well that was unexpected.

[hoopsguy]

Yep, that is Day 1.

[Blade6119]

Secret society...interesting...

[Coffee Warlord]

Yeah, what's that about? Flavor or did he perhaps know someone else in the group?

[Fouts]

Just the duke role.

Chief - I was as wrong as you were. Don't the the door hit ya on the way out.

[Alan T]

Well selfishly I am relieved I wasn't chosen, but I translated what "Chevaliers de la Reine" meant, and its the Knights of the Queen. No idea what that is, but I guess Fouts would have been better off picking me hindsight.

Well I guess the good from this is we have 1 trusted person now.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

grrrrr


sorry CR!

oh wait...it had nothing to do with me. Hopefully Fouts has some other power and your death was worth it, otherwise it seems pretty pointless.

*shrug*

The "duke" power is almost always bestowed on a "villager". So Fouts, even though he missed on his guess, should enter a relatively trusted state. Which means the bodyguard game gets to start early, with deciding whether to guard Fouts or someone who he thinks may have a seer role.

I would much rather Fouts take a shot with using his power than dying with it unused as a good guy. Just unfortunate that his switch didn't work out.

[Izulde]

Wait, what's this Chevaliers de la Reine thing? I know it's Knights of the something or the other

[path12]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

10 Chief Rum - Cardinals Guard, Member of the Order de la Reine. Beheaded DAY 1
.

Looks like he had some role. I don't know the story, anyone who can shed some light on this order?

[Izulde]

dola,

n/m didn't refresh in time

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The "duke" power is almost always bestowed on a "villager". So Fouts, even though he missed on his guess, should enter a relatively trusted state. Which means the bodyguard game gets to start early, with deciding whether to guard Fouts or someone who he thinks may have a seer role.

I would much rather Fouts take a shot with using his power than dying with it unused as a good guy. Just unfortunate that his switch didn't work out.

According to the right up, the guard read Fouts' paper and verified he was who he said he was. Lieutenant of the Cardinal Guard. So in my mind, thats fully trusted at least for now.

As for him using his ability, yep thats what he had to do there, and he was in the same situation I was. Having to decide who should die without having any facts on anyone.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

The whole thing with dubb is that even though he may not have done anything specifically this game that's insulting, there is a past history on this board that, like or not, comes into play. Aggressive play _in the manner I saw it today_ has historically led to very bad things in the end. History exists, I can not and will not just ignore it.

Tyrith, tomorrow(my vote if I survive) will have no bearing on your insults and personal attacks today. But I ask you to stop.

I would also like you to accept the fact that I am an adult, and if I want to take an aggresive stance I can and will. I did it on day 1 and did not step on anyones feet. The same can be said for the rest of the game.

Now if you would like to settle this tomorrow like gentlemen, I ask no more of you then to drop your glove, tomorrow morning if we both survive this night. I will grant you your wish.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The "duke" power is almost always bestowed on a "villager". So Fouts, even though he missed on his guess, should enter a relatively trusted state. Which means the bodyguard game gets to start early, with deciding whether to guard Fouts or someone who he thinks may have a seer role.

I would much rather Fouts take a shot with using his power than dying with it unused as a good guy. Just unfortunate that his switch didn't work out.

Thank you. That is what I was thinking, why should I stand there and die, when I could duke somebody that wants to kill me. That would have have been the dumb move.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well selfishly I am relieved I wasn't chosen, but I translated what "Chevaliers de la Reine" meant, and its the Knights of the Queen. No idea what that is, but I guess Fouts would have been better off picking me hindsight.

Well I guess the good from this is we have 1 trusted person now.

Do we know for sure that the Duke role is always a good role?

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Do we know for sure that the Duke role is always a good role?

That's an awfully powerful role to have in the hands of a wolf. Too powerful, in my mind.

[path12]

I don't blame him for making the wrong choice, I think it was silly to keep votes on him when he hinted at a role day 1. People gladly got off st.cronin when he hinted, why didn't they with Fouts?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Do we know for sure that the Duke role is always a good role?

The duke isn't always good.

However once again the way I read the writeup, the guard verified Fouts' position and thus he should be fully trusted. It seems I am the only one who reads it that way. I think I'm right on this though

[Blade6119]

I think the document said alan is going to be converted on night 2, and therefore on day 3 the lynch is coming

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

At that moment Fouts steps forward and begs pardon to M. Grenier, asking to have a word. Fouts clears his throat and say “Gentleman, for those who do not know me, my name is Fouts and I have just been promoted to the post of Lieutenant and am now second in command to Captain Grenier. Fouts produces a letter of promotion and Grenier reads over it acknowledging its legitimacy.

[/b]

This is the part I refer to. To me this seems to imply fully trusted status

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Just the duke role.

Chief - I was as wrong as you were. Don't the the door hit ya on the way out.

Actually you were more wrong, because your reasons were worse and I am dead. But that's the last comment I'll make. It was a phenomenally awful situation you yourself set up with some bad playmaking, IMO. But I recognize you did what you had to do. It's too bad you chose something weak like revenge as your motivating factor, rather than going after one of your "suspicions" for your one time duke ability. You might have killed someone bad. Instead you killed me.

I don't mind how it happened, or that you did it. But I think your reasoning was just plain awful. My opinion.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Alan T

The duke isn't always good.

However once again the way I read the writeup, the guard verified Fouts' position and thus he should be fully trusted. It seems I am the only one who reads it that way. I think I'm right on this though

same feeling here fouts should be #1 on everyone's trust list in my book now

[Fouts]

FWIW, if I had dropped out of the top two, I wouldn't have used my ability.

[st.cronin]

The first game I ran, I gave the duke role to a bad guy. But I think that's the only time that's happened, plus it was actually a pretty complicated role, and not just the duke.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

FWIW, if I had dropped out of the top two, I wouldn't have used my ability.

I asked you that and you never answered..i was ready to vote NTN up, but you ignored my question. I dont feel bad in that regard at all

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by path12

I don't blame him for making the wrong choice, I think it was silly to keep votes on him when he hinted at a role day 1. People gladly got off st.cronin when he hinted, why didn't they with Fouts?

I already stated why, but if folks want me to repeat it again.. it was a no-win situation for me unless I got really lucky. Fouts claimed he didn't have any important role and hinted at some way to influence the duel.

I was wrong, I admit it, I'll take my medicine for it, but unlike others, I -was- here all weekend and encouraged discussion for better choices. Its easy for you to make this backseat driver comments when all you did was jump on my own thoughts on Izulde and used it as your reason for your vote. TO which extent we don't know how that ended up.

I was wrong, sue me.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Actually you were more wrong, because your reasons were worse and I am dead. But that's the last comment I'll make. It was a phenomenally awful situation you yourself set up with some bad playmaking, IMO. But I recognize you did what you had to do. It's too bad you chose something weak like revenge as your motivating factor, rather than going after one of your "suspicions" for your one time duke ability. You might have killed someone bad. Instead you killed me.

I don't mind how it happened, or that you did it. But I think your reasoning was just plain awful. My opinion.

Grow up. If it wasn't you, it was somebody else. You were my first vote of the day because of the way you went after me. If you can't accept your death, try a different game.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Actually you were more wrong, because your reasons were worse and I am dead. But that's the last comment I'll make. It was a phenomenally awful situation you yourself set up with some bad playmaking, IMO. But I recognize you did what you had to do. It's too bad you chose something weak like revenge as your motivating factor, rather than going after one of your "suspicions" for your one time duke ability. You might have killed someone bad. Instead you killed me.

I don't mind how it happened, or that you did it. But I think your reasoning was just plain awful. My opinion.

I don't think you're being fair here Chief. If he had moved it to me, I probably would have been upset as well.. but just like a day 1 vote, he had to choose someone. His vote was on you most of the weekend after you voted him, just no one else followed him to it and he ended up moving his vote to make it more of an impact.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

[color="Red"]You all gather in the courtyard. The imposing apparatus known as the Guillotine is standing in the background. You know that if you receive majority lynch, it is off with your head. You all shudder at the thought.

I hate to be a stick in the mud, but the Guillotine didn't come about until 1789.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Grow up. If it wasn't you, it was somebody else. You were my first vote of the day because of the way you went after me. If you can't accept your death, try a different game.

My thoughts on this can be found elsewhere in the thread, I suspect

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I hate to be a stick in the mud, but the Guillotine didn't come about until 1789.

oooh! nicely done Jon!


and FWIW I agree with you Alan and SnDvls about Fouts being tops on the trust list now. That was definately the reading I got from that writeup as well.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Alan T

The duke isn't always good.

However once again the way I read the writeup, the guard verified Fouts' position and thus he should be fully trusted. It seems I am the only one who reads it that way. I think I'm right on this though

He doesn't have my trust. I don't care if he is our lieutenant, that doesn't automatically make him good. Remember that there is a captain of the Musketeers as well. I would assume that's a high ranking official.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Grow up. If it wasn't you, it was somebody else. You were my first vote of the day because of the way you went after me. If you can't accept your death, try a different game.

I'm fine with dying, Fouts. I just didn't think your reasoning was very good. I think if I had been around all day and didn't get to your threats to the end of my reading (right at deadline), I probably would have switched off of you. That's on me. But my logic for choosing you in the first place was fine, something you refuse to acknowledge.

If you can't take someone critiquing your poor play, maybe you should try a different game yourself.