The Official March Madness 2007 Thread - Page 12

Young Drachma · 03-18-2007, 03:42 PM

UNLV's win doesn't hurt my bracket since that part was trashed anyway and it's good for the Mountain West to have a rep in the Sweet 16.

Logan · 03-18-2007, 03:45 PM

Had them losing to Oregon anyway.

Between this loss and the tough game against TAMCC...bad tournament.

rowech · 03-18-2007, 03:53 PM

All season long, everyone reports that the Big 10 and ACC are the two best conferences...now it looks as if they'll each have only one team left?

Easy Mac · 03-18-2007, 03:55 PM

i don't remember anyone saying the Big Ten was a top conference.

cartman · 03-18-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

i don't remember anyone saying the Big Ten was a top conference.

Usually when there is talk of a conference receiving 2 #1 seeds leading up to the tourney (Wisconsin and Ohio State), they are talked about as one of the top conferences.

mckerney · 03-18-2007, 04:00 PM

Great for my bracket. I was sitting in second down 1 point. The guy in first had Wisconsin going to the final four, I had UNLV beating them.

w00t!! Go Runnin' Rebels! (and Lon Kruger come to Minnesota, plz k thx).

Easy Mac · 03-18-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Usually when there is talk of a conference receiving 2 #1 seeds leading up to the tourney (Wisconsin and Ohio State), they are talked about as one of the top conferences.

unless those are the only two who were seen to be any good

cartman · 03-18-2007, 04:05 PM

Since you seem to be such a big fan of RPIs, the Big 10 was #4 in conference RPI, only 0.0124 behind the top RPI conference.

edit, which is almost the same difference between #4 and #5 (0.0104). So the top 4 conferences RPI-wise are very close to each other stat-wise.

Easy Mac · 03-18-2007, 04:07 PM

when was i a fan of rpi, because i like duke?

cartman · 03-18-2007, 05:33 PM

Texas just doesn't seem like they were ready to play today. USC is simply taking it to them. The Horns climbed back to within 7 at the half, but USC is on a 16-3 run here early in the second half.

Fouts · 03-18-2007, 05:33 PM

Nice run by the Trojans. 17 point lead with 15 minutes left.

miami_fan · 03-18-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

All season long, everyone reports that the Big 10 and ACC are the two best conferences...now it looks as if they'll each have only one team left?

Not everyone did. If you go back and take a look at page 3 of the college basketball thread, several people said that Pac 10 was the best conference

Young Drachma · 03-18-2007, 05:59 PM

Nevada sure let this one get away.

adubroff · 03-18-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Nevada sure let this one get away.

Yeah Memphis earned it though, they shot foul shots well which they normally don't do. Had they shot their normal 60% it would have been a different game.

RedKingGold · 03-18-2007, 06:08 PM

Wow. I can never remember a year where so many of the higher seeds made it through relatively unscathed.

Has there been another year since the tourney expanded to 64 (or now 65) teams that no double digit seeds made it to the Sweet Sixteen? Off-hand, I can't recall a year.

miami_fan · 03-18-2007, 06:11 PM

I hope Randolph Morris does not think he is ready for the NBA yet.

Dekanth · 03-18-2007, 06:12 PM

All hail the ACC!

The RPI is sure a useful tool.

RedKingGold · 03-18-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Wow. I can never remember a year where so many of the higher seeds made it through relatively unscathed.

Has there been another year since the tourney expanded to 64 (or now 65) teams that no double digit seeds made it to the Sweet Sixteen? Off-hand, I can't recall a year.

I did a little bit of research to answer my own question. Since the tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985, the only other year in which no double-digit seed advanced to the Sweet Sixteen is 1995.

That year, the lowest seed to make the Sweet Sixteen was a #6 seed held by Tulsa, Georgetown, and Memphis. It bears stating that none of those teams made it to the Elite Eight (which had two 1 vs. 2 matchups, and two 4 vs. 2 matchups)

Wolfpack · 03-18-2007, 06:23 PM

To be honest, as an ACC watcher, I'm not really surprised at the decimation of the conference in the NCAAs. When you looked at the standings and saw a cluster of nine teams running between 7-9 and 11-5, it meant the conference was deep, but there were no super teams (UNC's current form notwithstanding) that would be carrying the banner deep this year. Hell, a 5-11 State squad that had gotten crushed at Maryland the last regular season game ousted three of those NCAA teams in three days before falling in the title game to Carolina. The seed distribution does indicate something of this because only Carolina had a 1-seed. Everyone else was a 4 or worse. So, having all of them but UNC gone before the Sweet 16 isn't actually that surprising if you assume a 4/5 matchup is relatively even with the 4 being a slightly better team. The ACC wound up losing both 4/5 games today which will make things look worse for the conference overall as a result.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-18-2007, 06:27 PM

Sweet 16!

sterlingice · 03-18-2007, 06:28 PM

This has to be the most snoozer of a bracket year in a while. In the Sweet 16, only 5 of those teams didn't play to seed and the lowest seed advancing is a 7. Not feeling as bad about not making a bracket now and it looks like one of those years where office secretaries across the country will win the pools again.

SI

MizzouRah · 03-18-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Sweet 16!

Wow, good for you EF!

MizzouRah · 03-18-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Stop trying to get the last word.

word

Young Drachma · 03-18-2007, 08:13 PM

Making a bracket sure does impede my ability to enjoy the games much. I doubt I'll do one next year.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-18-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Wow, I'm really happy for Tennessee. We'll get our doors blown off by a hot OSU team, but I'm happy.

And after an ugly first 10 minutes, the Lady Vols took care of business nicely.
Nothing like a 34-0 run to put those early game jitters behind you.

GoldenEagle · 03-18-2007, 08:32 PM

No real word on CDR's ankle yet, other than a moderate sprain. I do not know if he is going to play or not. I think he was on the way to a career game today, but that is the luck.

It is going to be tough to beat Texas A&M in San Antonio.

Lathum · 03-18-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Making a bracket sure does impede my ability to enjoy the games much. I doubt I'll do one next year.

really?

I would say 99% of people feel the opposite

INDalltheway · 03-18-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

really?

I would say 99% of people feel the opposite

It makes those games without any allegiances more fun to watch I think. I know what he is saying though, especially when the teams you pick to win piss the game away in the final minutes.

JPhillips · 03-18-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

All season long, everyone reports that the Big 10 and ACC are the two best conferences...now it looks as if they'll each have only one team left?

I don't think anyone said the Big Ten was one of the best conferences. What I heard was that OSU and Wisconsin were great and everyone else was mediocre to bad. Look at the number of bids the conference got, the committee certainly didn't think the Big Ten was a great conference.

MJ4H · 03-18-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Making a bracket sure does impede my ability to enjoy the games much. I doubt I'll do one next year.

The day I finally realized this for me was a great day. Haven't done one since the early 90s, really. I think I might have done one on yahoo once just because my wife likes doing it and was hounding me to do it, but I don't think I even checked on it.

RPI-Fan · 03-18-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Making a bracket sure does impede my ability to enjoy the games much. I doubt I'll do one next year.

I totally agree with this. That's why I haven't done one for a few years (despite really being pressured this year).

I did find something that is the best of both worlds... my boss at work (who doesn't know a clue about basketball) had me fill her bracket out for her. So if it does good, I can say how smart I am, and if it messes up (which it inevitably will), I just say "it's not my money so I wasn't trying". And it doesn't mess with my enjoyment of the games since it has no effect on me at all...

miami_fan · 03-19-2007, 05:30 AM

Is there another sport in the world where people are upset when by the lack of upsets than college basketball? It is just a weird phenomenon.

Logan · 03-19-2007, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Is there another sport in the world where people are upset when by the lack of upsets than college basketball? It is just a weird phenomenon.

No. But that's why the tournament became the tournament. There would be very little interest (only the diehards) if the Sweet 16 was historically filled with (close to) 4 sets of 1-4 seeds.

miami_fan · 03-19-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

No. But that's why the tournament became the tournament. There would be very little interest (only the diehards) if the Sweet 16 was historically filled with (close to) 4 sets of 1-4 seeds.

Interesting

rowech · 03-19-2007, 02:13 PM

Sorry...I love the fact that no team worse than a 7 advanced. Hopefully, in the last eight, they are all 1 and 2 seeds. I love the underdog for the first round, maybe the second. After that, let the best teams play.

Young Drachma · 03-19-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

really?

I would say 99% of people feel the opposite

I don't often fall into the 99% anyway.

But...I think all in all, it would be a lot more enjoyable to 1) root for upsets, knowing that it won't matter if my bracket gets trashed and 2) to enjoy just good games that go down to the wire and most important 3) to root for the best teams to win and to prove themselves.

It's not even like I spend money on my brackets or earn cash with any of the ones I bother with (or lose money, that is.) It's just hard to watch the games in the same way.

And heaven forbid Wyoming actually slip up one of these days and get back to the tourney, I'd have a hard time writing a bracket with an actual dog in the hunt.

I prefer to watch the games the same way I can watch college football's postseason. Without much allegiance to anyone and the ability to pick the team I'm rooting for on the fly.

Thomkal · 03-19-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Woot Marist Women! 13th seeded Red Foxes upset Ohio State in the first round of the women's tourney. Combined with the Marist men winning the regular MAAC season title and upsetting Oklahoma State in the first round of NIT, its been a pretty good year for them.

Okay back to the men's tourney...

Woot again! Marist upsets #5 Middle Tennessee State to become the highest seeded team (well tied with two others) in women's tourney history to make the Sweet 16. Sadly the run will probably end there as they will likely face Middle Tennessee's big sisters, Tennessee in the next round.

Rizon · 03-19-2007, 10:01 PM

Good matchups coming up for the sweet 16. There is potential for some really sick ass basketball.

Groundhog · 03-19-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Good matchups coming up for the sweet 16. There is potential for some really sick ass basketball.

Yeah. I mean, everyone likes to see an underdog advance, but it should make for some prettier games in the sweet 16 and beyond.

Lathum · 03-22-2007, 06:13 PM

Man, the arena looks empty for the SIU game

Groundhog · 03-22-2007, 06:31 PM

I'm looking forward to catching the Pittsburgh-UCLA game today. I haven't been able to catch much of the tourney thanks to the lousy times the games are on over here (midday), but I've taken a few hours off work to watch this game.

UCLA should win, but I'm keen to see Aaron Gray play for Pitt. Haven't seen him in action before, and I'm interested to see how he'll do against Mata and the rest of UCLA's frontcourt.

adubroff · 03-22-2007, 06:36 PM

How can a major network look at the two games in this slot (A&M/Memphis, SIU/Kansas) and decide to air SIU/Kansas as the main game. On paper, I think the A&M/Memphis game has a chance to be the best one of this round.

JeeberD · 03-22-2007, 06:43 PM

I'm hoping and praying that Memphis knocks the living hell out of A&M...

adubroff · 03-22-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I'm hoping and praying that Memphis knocks the living hell out of A&M...

I really like A&M. I am a big fan of Law, and I like the coach a lot.

Another annoying thing by the way...there are two games going right now, CBS has the scoreboard in the upper right corner and it's showing the score of one game at a time. Half of the time, the score is the game I'm actually watching.

Groundhog · 03-22-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

How can a major network look at the two games in this slot (A&M/Memphis, SIU/Kansas) and decide to air SIU/Kansas as the main game. On paper, I think the A&M/Memphis game has a chance to be the best one of this round.

We've got the Memphis-A&M game on. REALLY wish I could be watching that right now.

JeeberD · 03-22-2007, 07:27 PM

The Tigers need to D up just a bit.

Keep it up, Salukis!

Lathum · 03-22-2007, 07:30 PM

same old Kansas

Easy Mac · 03-22-2007, 07:32 PM

That white boy broke #15's ankles.

sterlingice · 03-22-2007, 07:46 PM

Ugh, this is unpleasant to listen to and it really annoys me that I can't think of the name of the play-by-play guy.

I know we're big, scary Kansas (uh.. yeah, having choked the last couple of years- not the scariest thing on 2 wheels) but I love how anytime KU plays a little D, they're roughing up the Salukis but NIU, who just doesn't have the same size, if they're shoving us around, it's just great defense. And, conversely, anytime SIU gets a foul called on them, the "refs are whistling it tight now"...

SI

Lathum · 03-22-2007, 07:58 PM

this A&M- Memphis game is shaping up to be a classic

03-18-2007, 03:42 PM	#551
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	UNLV's win doesn't hurt my bracket since that part was trashed anyway and it's good for the Mountain West to have a rep in the Sweet 16. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

03-18-2007, 04:05 PM	#558
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Since you seem to be such a big fan of RPIs, the Big 10 was #4 in conference RPI, only 0.0124 behind the top RPI conference. edit, which is almost the same difference between #4 and #5 (0.0104). So the top 4 conferences RPI-wise are very close to each other stat-wise. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 03-18-2007 at 04:08 PM.

03-18-2007, 05:33 PM	#560
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Texas just doesn't seem like they were ready to play today. USC is simply taking it to them. The Horns climbed back to within 7 at the half, but USC is on a 16-3 run here early in the second half. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-18-2007, 05:59 PM	#563
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Nevada sure let this one get away. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

03-18-2007, 06:11 PM	#566
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I hope Randolph Morris does not think he is ready for the NBA yet. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

03-18-2007, 03:45 PM	#552
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Had them losing to Oregon anyway. Between this loss and the tough game against TAMCC...bad tournament.

03-18-2007, 03:53 PM	#553
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	All season long, everyone reports that the Big 10 and ACC are the two best conferences...now it looks as if they'll each have only one team left?

03-18-2007, 03:55 PM	#554
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	i don't remember anyone saying the Big Ten was a top conference.

03-18-2007, 04:00 PM	#556
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Great for my bracket. I was sitting in second down 1 point. The guy in first had Wisconsin going to the final four, I had UNLV beating them. w00t!! Go Runnin' Rebels! (and Lon Kruger come to Minnesota, plz k thx).

03-18-2007, 04:07 PM	#559
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	when was i a fan of rpi, because i like duke?

03-18-2007, 05:33 PM	#561
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Nice run by the Trojans. 17 point lead with 15 minutes left.

03-18-2007, 06:08 PM	#565
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Wow. I can never remember a year where so many of the higher seeds made it through relatively unscathed. Has there been another year since the tourney expanded to 64 (or now 65) teams that no double digit seeds made it to the Sweet Sixteen? Off-hand, I can't recall a year.

03-18-2007, 06:12 PM	#567
Dekanth Mascot Join Date: Sep 2005	All hail the ACC! The RPI is sure a useful tool.

03-18-2007, 06:23 PM	#569
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	To be honest, as an ACC watcher, I'm not really surprised at the decimation of the conference in the NCAAs. When you looked at the standings and saw a cluster of nine teams running between 7-9 and 11-5, it meant the conference was deep, but there were no super teams (UNC's current form notwithstanding) that would be carrying the banner deep this year. Hell, a 5-11 State squad that had gotten crushed at Maryland the last regular season game ousted three of those NCAA teams in three days before falling in the title game to Carolina. The seed distribution does indicate something of this because only Carolina had a 1-seed. Everyone else was a 4 or worse. So, having all of them but UNC gone before the Sweet 16 isn't actually that surprising if you assume a 4/5 matchup is relatively even with the 4 being a slightly better team. The ACC wound up losing both 4/5 games today which will make things look worse for the conference overall as a result.

03-18-2007, 06:27 PM	#570
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Sweet 16! __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 03-18-2007 at 06:27 PM.

03-18-2007, 06:28 PM	#571
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	This has to be the most snoozer of a bracket year in a while. In the Sweet 16, only 5 of those teams didn't play to seed and the lowest seed advancing is a 7. Not feeling as bad about not making a bracket now and it looks like one of those years where office secretaries across the country will win the pools again. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-18-2007, 08:13 PM	#574
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Making a bracket sure does impede my ability to enjoy the games much. I doubt I'll do one next year. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

03-18-2007, 08:32 PM	#576
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	No real word on CDR's ankle yet, other than a moderate sprain. I do not know if he is going to play or not. I think he was on the way to a career game today, but that is the luck. It is going to be tough to beat Texas A&M in San Antonio. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

03-19-2007, 05:30 AM	#582
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Is there another sport in the world where people are upset when by the lack of upsets than college basketball? It is just a weird phenomenon. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

03-19-2007, 02:13 PM	#585
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	Sorry...I love the fact that no team worse than a 7 advanced. Hopefully, in the last eight, they are all 1 and 2 seeds. I love the underdog for the first round, maybe the second. After that, let the best teams play.

03-22-2007, 06:13 PM	#590
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Man, the arena looks empty for the SIU game

03-22-2007, 06:31 PM	#591
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I'm looking forward to catching the Pittsburgh-UCLA game today. I haven't been able to catch much of the tourney thanks to the lousy times the games are on over here (midday), but I've taken a few hours off work to watch this game. UCLA should win, but I'm keen to see Aaron Gray play for Pitt. Haven't seen him in action before, and I'm interested to see how he'll do against Mata and the rest of UCLA's frontcourt. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

03-22-2007, 06:36 PM	#592
adubroff High School JV Join Date: Nov 2006	How can a major network look at the two games in this slot (A&M/Memphis, SIU/Kansas) and decide to air SIU/Kansas as the main game. On paper, I think the A&M/Memphis game has a chance to be the best one of this round.

03-22-2007, 06:43 PM	#593
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I'm hoping and praying that Memphis knocks the living hell out of A&M... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-22-2007, 07:27 PM	#596
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	The Tigers need to D up just a bit. Keep it up, Salukis! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-22-2007, 07:30 PM	#597
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	same old Kansas

03-22-2007, 07:32 PM	#598
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	That white boy broke #15's ankles.

03-22-2007, 07:46 PM	#599
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Ugh, this is unpleasant to listen to and it really annoys me that I can't think of the name of the play-by-play guy. I know we're big, scary Kansas (uh.. yeah, having choked the last couple of years- not the scariest thing on 2 wheels) but I love how anytime KU plays a little D, they're roughing up the Salukis but NIU, who just doesn't have the same size, if they're shoving us around, it's just great defense. And, conversely, anytime SIU gets a foul called on them, the "refs are whistling it tight now"... SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 03-22-2007 at 07:46 PM.

03-22-2007, 07:58 PM	#600
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	this A&M- Memphis game is shaping up to be a classic

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