Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER)

[Barkeep49]

I won't be voting for AC today, baring further revelations, because he admitted that he cast more than 1 AP on a person. I respect that.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Its weird, when I can't possibly trust you, everyone else does, when I do trust you even a little, no one else does.

Just weird.

Render I haven't stated this because you trust me, but it sure does seem like you trust an awful lot of people. This makes me slightly uncomfortable so early in the game.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I won't be voting for AC today, baring further revelations, because he admitted that he cast more than 1 AP on a person. I respect that.

That's not what he just said. He just said his vote was 1 ap.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

I agree on the good analysis... I know I am an Olympian and I'm against revealing, but I will if i have to save myself. I only put1 point on my vote last night, because really it was a random day 1 vote and I had nothing to base it on (except lathum's theory).

See, just one point according to him.

[ArlingtonColt]

I used 1 for the vote and 4 for my ability.... I really don't want to reveal.

[ArlingtonColt]

[b]Vote Lathum[b]

[ArlingtonColt]

Vote Lathum

[DaddyTorgo]

btw...just want to state for the record: game 1 of the WS is more important to me than being here constantly until deadline.

i will be around to lay a vote (hopefully an informed one), but i might not be too active discussion-wise once it hits around...6:30 or 7pm EST.

[Racer]

Okay, I've caught up and I have a question. How does discussing how many AP votes each player spent last night on the vote help the Olympians? The reason why I ask this is that aside from neon_chaos or Barkeep, it seems that anyone using most or all their AP’s on the vote last night probably don’t have an important role such as seer or bodyguard (assuming those roles are in this game). The reason I say this is that I find it hard to believe anyone was confident enough in their vote that they would forgo looking at or protecting someone to strengthen their vote. So in effect, it seems it would help out the Titans to know how many AP's a person spent on their vote. Is more information always better? Because many people seem to think that.

[Barkeep49]

Ok so perhaps I will vote for AC after all. Was it Purdue who voted 3 AP then?

Also, I plan on using my role today which will obviously affect how many APs I am putting into my vote.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok so perhaps I will vote for AC after all. Was it Purdue who voted 3 AP then?

Also, I plan on using my role today which will obviously affect how many APs I am putting into my vote.

Yeah BK, it was me that voted 3 AP on Neon_Chaos. It was my fault for jumping on Hoops' move.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

How did you decide on AC versus others on CR's list?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Racer

Okay, I've caught up and I have a question. How does discussing how many AP votes each player spent last night on the vote help the Olympians? The reason why I ask this is that aside from neon_chaos or Barkeep, it seems that anyone using most or all their AP’s on the vote last night probably don’t have an important role such as seer or bodyguard (assuming those roles are in this game). The reason I say this is that I find it hard to believe anyone was confident enough in their vote that they would forgo looking at or protecting someone to strengthen their vote. So in effect, it seems it would help out the Titans to know how many AP's a person spent on their vote. Is more information always better? Because many people seem to think that.

very good point by the noob. i think we all need to shut up with how many AP's we're spending (or the important roles should just lie)

[Abe Sargent]

This is a temporary vote on one of the current suspects under teh radar. AC is getting some votes, so I want to put some pressure on another candidate. This could remain temporary or no.

Vote ntndeacon

[PurdueBrad]

I'm throwing another placeholder out there today and perhaps this one will be just that, a placeholder. I'll be maximizing my power tonight and not sure how much I'll be on after about 6 pm CST given we have a softball double-header and the Sox World Series. Anyway, look forward to reading some discussion hopefully.

Vote Arlington Colt

[ArlingtonColt]

Originally Posted by Racer

Okay, I've caught up and I have a question. How does discussing how many AP votes each player spent last night on the vote help the Olympians? The reason why I ask this is that aside from neon_chaos or Barkeep, it seems that anyone using most or all their AP’s on the vote last night probably don’t have an important role such as seer or bodyguard (assuming those roles are in this game). The reason I say this is that I find it hard to believe anyone was confident enough in their vote that they would forgo looking at or protecting someone to strengthen their vote. So in effect, it seems it would help out the Titans to know how many AP's a person spent on their vote. Is more information always better? Because many people seem to think that.

It could be some people throwing a hint... thats all.

[Barkeep49]

Racer: Last night the vote did not go down the way a plurality of people wanted it to. They wanted me dead. Now it just happened that group was wrong, but what happens next time when a minority, using AP, kill somebody who is a villager, perhaps even a villager with an important role. Having a sense of where we're at for the vote is, to me, an incredibly important part of our daily routine.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

How did you decide on AC versus others on CR's list?

I didn't use CR's list.

I realize it's early but it looks lke there may be some heat on me and I woun't be home most of the night so I wanted to vote for someone who already has a vote.

[Poli]

Hmm. I wonder...with hoops AWOL and Neon muted, are they penalized for not voting this time around or are they given a pass for it?

[Lathum]

I would assume they aren't penelized.

[Lathum]

ok, I am leaving in a few minutes but I am gonna take a chance and not reveal.

I may not be back until close to the deadline so those of you who are around please be ready in case I have to reveal.

[Poli]

I'd hate to assume anything after that last crap game I played.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Lathum

ok, I am leaving in a few minutes but I am gonna take a chance and not reveal.

I may not be back until close to the deadline so those of you who are around please be ready in case I have to reveal.

i think that's for the best. i should be home by deadline...i just may not be paying the world's closest attention, but enough to move if i have to.

still no idea where my vote should go

[ArlingtonColt]

I'm going out to eat tonight with my g/f and I'm not sure if I'll be back before the deadline...

I am Hephaestus the God of smithing, an olympian.

[DaddyTorgo]

mmm...i'd like to save AC, knowing the usual types of roles that Alan makes.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Racer: Last night the vote did not go down the way a plurality of people wanted it to. They wanted me dead. Now it just happened that group was wrong, but what happens next time when a minority, using AP, kill somebody who is a villager, perhaps even a villager with an important role. Having a sense of where we're at for the vote is, to me, an incredibly important part of our daily routine.

We'll have have to agree to disagree especially for a day one vote. I just feel revealing the number of AP votes used probably helps the Titans more then us because in my opinion it quite possibly narrows the list of players that could have important roles.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Render I haven't stated this because you trust me, but it sure does seem like you trust an awful lot of people. This makes me slightly uncomfortable so early in the game.

I have a fairly small true CoT it includes myself and DT, My role has allowed that to happen. I trust you because I saw how the vote was going and beieved that you and lathum were villager/villager going at one another.

I beyond that there is always room for movement up or down the trust lader. I just thin we ought to keep the nmain group together while we work out a few others to bring into the CoT that I have already.

[RendeR]

I'll be out for awhle again. I'm sick and sleep is the only real option right now.

back in a while.

[Poli]

Racer, I'm thinking we all have something special we can do. I'm not sure revealing AP usage is harmful if we all do.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

I used 1 for the vote and 4 for my ability.... I really don't want to reveal.

Arlington Colt, if you get lynched tonight, I'm guessing using 4 APs on your ability isn't going to do any good.

[DaddyTorgo]

*shrug* i dunno what you're talking about RendeR. I haven't been contacted by you or anybody else. Not like Lathum where I had a midnight visitor or anything.

Don't know why you're trying so hard to link the two of us. Maybe because you have something to hide. Or else you have some knowledge of my goodness some other way.

[Poli]

Interesting.

[Racer]

Vote ntndeacon

He voted for the same person as path last night and from what I can tell has been under the radar. This isn't definite, but I need a reason to switch my vote.

[DaddyTorgo]

i need a reason to vote for someone in the next like...hour

[Schmidty]

I am exhausted. Normal 11 p.m. to 7 a.m. shift. Wife work s at 7:30 a.m. I take daughter to school at 8:30. She gets out at 11:30, but has the jogathon after school (f'ing pta), and then I have to cover from 5 - 8 p.m. at work. Then 11 p.m. to 7 a.m. again. sorry to whine, and sound like excuses, but I'm here for a few, and that's it.

I have no reason for this other than vibes:

Vote ArlingtonColt

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'll go first today as I might not be in later. Getting bad vibes from ArlingtonColt so...

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'll get this out of the way quick.

VOTE LATHUM


(currently 1 AP)

Originally Posted by Lathum

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

Vote Lathum

Originally Posted by Anxiety

This is a temporary vote on one of the current suspects under teh radar. AC is getting some votes, so I want to put some pressure on another candidate. This could remain temporary or no.

Vote ntndeacon

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I'm throwing another placeholder out there today and perhaps this one will be just that, a placeholder. I'll be maximizing my power tonight and not sure how much I'll be on after about 6 pm CST given we have a softball double-header and the Sox World Series. Anyway, look forward to reading some discussion hopefully.

Vote Arlington Colt

Originally Posted by Racer

Vote ntndeacon

He voted for the same person as path last night and from what I can tell has been under the radar. This isn't definite, but I need a reason to switch my vote.

Votes thus far as far as I could tell.

1) Render
2) Barkeep
3) Chief Rum
4) PurdueBrad Arlington Colt
5) St.Cronin
6) Neon_Chaos Can't vote?
7) Lathum Arlington Colt
8) ntndeacon
9) ArlingtonColt Lathum
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle
12) Hoopsguy Can't Vote?
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety ntndeacon
15) Ardent_Enthusiast Lathum
16) Racer ntndeacon
17) DaddyTorgo
18) Raiders Army Arlington Colt
19) Schmidty

(no particular order)
Arlington Colt: RA, Lathum, Purdue Brad
Ntndeacon: Racer, Anxiety
Lathum: Arlington Colt, AE
By my count, we have 8 non-voters thus far and 2 others that likely won't. I'm concerned about my vote on Lathum at this point (having re-read CR's comment from early this morning...however, with Arlington's reveal and ntndeacon nowhere around 4 hours till deadline, I wonder what's going on here.

[st.cronin]

I'm going to

VOTE RENDER

The tone of some of his posts has been perplexing.

[Poli]

SONOFA. Schmidty wrecks my post.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Racer, I'm thinking we all have something special we can do. I'm not sure revealing AP usage is harmful if we all do.

This may be true, but my main concern is that some things people can do are more important/special then what others can do and thus some people are unlikely to ever spend all their APs on the vote unless it is to save their own skin.

[Poli]

Now cronin too.

1) Render
2) Barkeep
3) Chief Rum
4) PurdueBrad Arlington Colt
5) St.Cronin render
6) Neon_Chaos Can't vote?
7) Lathum Arlington Colt
8) ntndeacon
9) ArlingtonColt Lathum
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle
12) Hoopsguy Can't Vote?
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety ntndeacon
15) Ardent_Enthusiast Lathum
16) Racer ntndeacon
17) DaddyTorgo
18) Raiders Army Arlington Colt
19) Schmidty Arlington Colt

(no particular order)
Arlington Colt: RA, Lathum, Purdue Brad, Schmidty
Ntndeacon: Racer, Anxiety
Lathum: Arlington Colt, AE
Render: cronin

Fixed, I think.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Racer

This may be true, but my main concern is that some things people can do are more important/special then what others can do and thus some people are unlikely to ever spend all their APs on the vote unless it is to save their own skin.

In which case, aren't we on the honor system as for how many AP we're using? I don't see how it matters.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm not inclined to vote render, despite what i said earlier. nor am i inclined to vote AC since his unchallenged reveal.

of the people with votes already, the only person i feel okay voting for is ntn. so due to that

VOTE NTNDEACON

[Poli]

And here's ntn. Magic.

[Poli]

1) Render
2) Barkeep
3) Chief Rum
4) PurdueBrad Arlington Colt
5) St.Cronin render
6) Neon_Chaos Can't vote?
7) Lathum Arlington Colt
8) ntndeacon
9) ArlingtonColt Lathum
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle
12) Hoopsguy Can't Vote?
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety ntndeacon
15) Ardent_Enthusiast Lathum
16) Racer ntndeacon
17) DaddyTorgo ntndeacon
18) Raiders Army Arlington Colt
19) Schmidty Arlington Colt

(no particular order)
Arlington Colt: RA, Lathum, Purdue Brad, Schmidty
Ntndeacon: Racer, Anxiety, Daddy Torgo
Lathum: Arlington Colt, AE
Render: cronin

I'll likely switch my vote to ntn unless I hear otherwise.

[DaddyTorgo]

very interesting AE. did you happen to notice who else was in the thread when i placed my vote (i didn't notice). maybe someone tipped him off?

[Barkeep49]

AE: Great job with that vote count there. I'm leaving shortly for basketball but will be back before lynch. But to help move the discussion along I'm going to cast a vote for now with the guy I trust the least.

Vote Lathum

I could be convinced to go AC though depending on how things go down.

[st.cronin]

What was AC's "unchallenged reveal"?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

very interesting AE. did you happen to notice who else was in the thread when i placed my vote (i didn't notice). maybe someone tipped him off?

Hoops, maybe? I'm not sure. I was going around doing the multiple quote thing and piecing that 2 cent voting thing together.

[DaddyTorgo]

he said:

I am Hephaestus the God of smithing, an olympian.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Hoops, maybe? I'm not sure. I was going around doing the multiple quote thing and piecing that 2 cent voting thing together.

i don't think i've seen hoopy in thread all day