Fantasy Football 2011 Discussion

[Qwikshot]

Just made another deal: Getting Mendenhall, trading away Starks/Bowe.

QB-Newton
RB-Chris Johnson
RB-Gore
RB flex- Mendenhall
WR-DJax
WR-Colston
TE-Graham

I think it's a nice set up.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by TLK

Plaxico or Brandon Lloyd the rest of the way.... which one would you prefer?

Plax

He gets most of their WR touches in the red zone. He should start getting more yards as well if Sanchez can find a rhythm.

I just dont think much can be expected from Lloyd this year. Rams have no flow to their offense this year.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

RB: Jackson, Bradshaw, Blount, P. Thomas
WR: Maclin, Bowe, Henderson, J. Jones, S. Rice
TE: Winslow

Start 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE and a flex

The other trade I was offered was:
Jennings and Daniels for Bradshaw and Maclin

Yeah I think Danny was right on.

In order to upgrade at WR you would be killing your backs. Jackson is having a career year and the Bills look to be legit. I think you could use an upgrade at WR though. Do you have a decent backup QB?

[Apathetic Lurker]

So, I was offered a trade.....I'd be getting Brandon Jacobs and i'd be shipping out Micheal Jenkins...

Worthy trade?

The other trade offer was Vernon Davis and a 2012 1st rounder (around 10-12) position out of 16 if everything stays about the same. I'd be shipping out Mike Wallace... Should I hold out for more?

Any ideas?

[miked]

Thanks to injuries (Hillis) and bye weeks, I have to choose 2 between Noshow Moreno, Marshawn Lynch, and Delone Carter. Lynch was a late scratch last week and playing a good defense, Carter may or may not start and is playing a a shitty D, Moreno will start against DET. This sucks.

[MrBug708]

Saints D vs the Rams or San Fran's D vs the Browns?

[B & B]

Originally Posted by miked

Thanks to injuries (Hillis) and bye weeks, I have to choose 2 between Noshow Moreno, Marshawn Lynch, and Delone Carter. Lynch was a late scratch last week and playing a good defense, Carter may or may not start and is playing a a shitty D, Moreno will start against DET. This sucks.

Moreno and Carter


No brainer.

My top 2 FF Rbs were Jamaal Charles and Felix Jones. I had Tashard Choice to backup Felix. I picked up Ronnie Brown, then the trade was voided.

[molson]

I can't remember a season like this for injuries....I'm playing in a very deep league as it is - some of these decisions are getting ridiculous though (Leon Washington or Ben Obomanu)?

[RainMaker]

I play in 3 leagues. In two of my leagues I will lead the entire thing in points. I have built some amazing teams for the first time in awhile. I am going to be 4-4 in both. Fuck fantasy football.

[MikeVic]

Strategic question here...

I have first waiver order since I haven't gone after anyone on waivers all year. My RBs are Chris Johnson, Mendenhall, McGahee, and Delone Carter. We start two RBs and a flex.

Given what CJ has done and Ringer creeping up... would it be smart to use my waiver priority to pick up Ringer (who's still available) and stash him in case he becomes starter?

edit: This would bring me back down to last in priority.

[cmp]

Would you make this trade?

I give up Shonn Greene and get Chris Johnson. My other backs are Ray Rice, Fred Jackson, DeMarco Murray, Mark Ingram

Edit - I also have Peyton Hillis, kind of forgot about him.

[Julio Riddols]

You can't lose with that trade. If Johnson all of a sudden blows back up in the next couple weeks, flip him for a need position. If he sucks the rest of the year, you still have Rice, Jackson and Murray with Ingram for emergencies.

[TLK]

Plax and Jackie Battle for Andre Johnson is a no-brainer....right?

[wade moore]

Matt Ryan vs. IND

or

Eli Manning vs. NE

???

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Matt Ryan vs. IND

or

Eli Manning vs. NE

???

I'd go with Eli. He seems to be a lock for 300 yards and a couple scores in an average game, while I suspect Matt Ryan will play more of a caretaker role while the Falcons run the ball all over the Colts. Both are solid plays though.

[kingfc22]

Guess I should have started Julio Jones today...

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Guess I should have started Julio Jones today...

+1 DAMN!

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Non-PPR 2 RB/2 WR/1 Flex
QB: Sam Bradford, Kevin Kolb
RB: (Jamaal Charles (R.I.P.) just dropped), Darren McFadden, Fred Jackson, Ryan Mathews, Deangelo Williams, Ben Tate
WR: Greg Jennings, Vincent Jackson, Kenny Britt, Marques Colston, Denarious Moore

Was offered a trade of Matt Schaub and Braylon Edwards (who I would probably drop) for Sam Bradford and Fred Jackson. Probably would have taken it before the Charles injury, now I'm wondering how much better people see Jackson vs. Mathews/Williams/Tate - I don't think Jackson will give up the starting job to Spiller, but I don't think he'll keep up his pace either, and I really think Mathews in particular will be used like a feature back outside the red zone. And if STL fans have an opinion on Bradford so far - I know his schedule gets easier the 2nd half of the year, but Schaub also has Carolina/@Indy in weeks 15-16.

So basically, I've responded with Bradford/Mathews for Schaub, but if he still wants Jackson is the QB upgrade worth it?

Originally Posted by JAG

I think you're offering up way too much for a guy who isn't that big, if at all, of an upgrade. Your team is amazingly stacked at WR/RB, if you want to package something together, I would aim for a top 5 QB with a guy who has RB or WR needs. Otherwise, I wouldn't rock the boat with your squad.

Ended up taking this advice, shot for the moon and found an owner foolish enough to trade me Rodgers and (an injured at the time) Dez Bryant for McFadden, Aaron Hernandez, and the subsequently released Sam Bradford. This has combined with a stratified league (4 teams 7-2 or better, next best team 4-5) to virtually clinch a playoff berth with the following roster.

QB: Rodgers
TE: Finley
RB: Fred Jackson, Ryan Mathews, Jackie Battle, Knowshon Moreno (trying to waiver claim Ben Tate for him)
WR: Greg Jennings, Vincent Jackson, Dez Bryant, Marques Colston, Johnathan Baldwin, Nate Washington (trying to waiver claim Antonio Brown for him)

So, anyways, with a playoff berth all but locked up I'm turning my attention to the playoffs in Weeks 15/16. Is it worth trying to use my surplus at WR to bulk up at RB? I was thinking something along the lines of Marques Colston (@MIN, ATL in weeks 15/16) for Jahvid Best (@OAK/SD) - I know I'm taking the risk if Best doesn't come back from his concussion, but Colston will only see my lineup at WR if 2 of Jennings/Jackson/Bryant are injured, and I don't like him at Flex over a starting RB if possible because of his volatility.

[stevew]

Benson has Arizona and STL. Might want to target him.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Need help with opinions on a trade. Start 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 Flex

Me:
QB: Roeth, Tebow
WR: Nicks, Colston, Holmes, Harvin, Bennett
RB: Peterson, McCoy, Gore, Matthews, Battle
TE: Hernandez

Saw my glut at RB, and weakness at WR, and put on the trade block WR for RB.

Him:

QB: Vick
WR: VJax, Fitzgerald, Marshall, Manningham, Ford, Baldwin
RB: Murray, Forte, Starks, Helu
TE: Gronkowski, Finley

Was offered:

Fitzgerald, Marshall, Manningham for Peterson and Harvin

No go in my book, but wanted to counter if he's totally on Peterson.

Was thinking of going for the whole enchilada of

VJax, Fitz, Marhsall for Peterson and Harvin

Is this a good trade for me? Should I target Vick instead (do I need to)? Should I just stay pat, or offer a lower RB (Gore)?

[cmp]

My current backs are Ray Rice, Fred Jackson, DeMarco Murray, Chris Johnson, Mark Ingram, Peyton Hillis.

My QB is Roethlisberger.

Would you trade Murray for Drew Brees?

This is a no-brainer right?

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Yes, no brainer.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Is this a good trade for me? Should I target Vick instead (do I need to)? Should I just stay pat, or offer a lower RB (Gore)?

I like your team as is and I dont think trading AP is a wise move.

Could you trade Mathews for an upgrade at your 2nd/3rd wr? The way I look at it is your team is good enough to win it as it is so I dont make any trades unless I am upgrading without changing it much.

I think Big Ben will be fine for you. No point in trading for injury prone Vick who isnt having the career year he had last year.

I wish I had your team once they all get healthy. Solid.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Yeah, some idiot (who is in first place) dropped Mathews this past week and luckily I managed to get him on waivers, prompting the whole "RB glut".

I countered with Gore for Fitz and Marshall, but if he doesn't bite on that I'm just going to ride it. It seems like a shame to be benching one of Mathews/Gore each week but I will be bulletproof with respect to RB injury.

[sooner333]

I have to start Rivers (vs. Oak) over Tebow (vs. KC), right?

Also...Vick vs. Ari over Newton vs. Ten, right?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by sooner333

I have to start Rivers (vs. Oak) over Tebow (vs. KC), right?

Also...Vick vs. Ari over Newton vs. Ten, right?

Yes to both.

[Doug5984]

QB: Roethlisberger , Cutler
RB: Rice, Tolbert, Wells, Helu, Ringer, D. Williams
WR: Jennings, Wallace, V Jackson, B Lloyd, Decker, N. Washington
TE: Finley
K: Kasay
D: Cincy

All the bold are my starters, I need help picking my flex, really it's a toss up between Vincent Jackson & Brandon Lloyd. Normally I'd say easy call and go Jackson, but I follow Fantasy Guru and they are normally very reliable, and they are projecting Lloyd as the # 3 WR this week, V Jackson as # 9.

edit to add: I just traded for G Jennings... Antonio Brown, Rashard Mendenhall, Willis McGahee.... it's PPR so picking up Jennings was worth it to me, my bench was stacked so I gave up some depth to get another top WR.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Yeah, some idiot (who is in first place) dropped Mathews this past week and luckily I managed to get him on waivers, prompting the whole "RB glut".

I countered with Gore for Fitz and Marshall, but if he doesn't bite on that I'm just going to ride it. It seems like a shame to be benching one of Mathews/Gore each week but I will be bulletproof with respect to RB injury.

With them two its certainly a nice position to have.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Doug5984

QB: Roethlisberger , Cutler
RB: Rice, Tolbert, Wells, Helu, Ringer, D. Williams
WR: Jennings, Wallace, V Jackson, B Lloyd, Decker, N. Washington
TE: Finley
K: Kasay
D: Cincy

All the bold are my starters, I need help picking my flex, really it's a toss up between Vincent Jackson & Brandon Lloyd. Normally I'd say easy call and go Jackson, but I follow Fantasy Guru and they are normally very reliable, and they are projecting Lloyd as the # 3 WR this week, V Jackson as # 9.

edit to add: I just traded for G Jennings... Antonio Brown, Rashard Mendenhall, Willis McGahee.... it's PPR so picking up Jennings was worth it to me, my bench was stacked so I gave up some depth to get another top WR.

Were you considering Wells at all for flex? The Eagles dont exactly stop the run.

Out of Wells, Vjax or Lloyd it is a VERY tough call. Lloyd would likely be the more consistent play but VJax has that upside that is tough to bench. I wouldnt want to make a suggestion on this one because I feel there is a 66 percent chance Id be wrong.

[Doug5984]

Yeah I benched VJax last week for Wells, feels bad.

Wells...he killed me so bad last week, and still limited in practice last I heard, so I'll steer clear this week

[PurdueBrad]

Hey guys, some quick help here. Point per catch league.

I can only play two of these:
Mendenhall vs. Cincy, Stephen Jackson vs. Cleveland, Mathews (probably) vs. Oakland

and three of these:
Garcon vs. Jacksonville, Antonio Brown vs. Cincy, Ward vs. Cincy, Welker vs. Jets, Julio Jones vs. New Orleans, and Victor Cruz vs. San Fran

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Mendenhall/Jackson

Welker/Brown/Jones

[Julio Riddols]

Jackson, Mathews
Brown Welker, Cruz.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I would slide Cruz in Jones for sure if Nicks can't go.

[Doug5984]

Originally Posted by Doug5984

QB: Roethlisberger , Cutler
RB: Rice, Tolbert, Wells, Helu, Ringer, D. Williams
WR: Jennings, Wallace, V Jackson, B Lloyd, Decker, N. Washington
TE: Finley
K: Kasay
D: Cincy

All the bold are my starters, I need help picking my flex, really it's a toss up between Vincent Jackson & Brandon Lloyd. Normally I'd say easy call and go Jackson, but I follow Fantasy Guru and they are normally very reliable, and they are projecting Lloyd as the # 3 WR this week, V Jackson as # 9.

edit to add: I just traded for G Jennings... Antonio Brown, Rashard Mendenhall, Willis McGahee.... it's PPR so picking up Jennings was worth it to me, my bench was stacked so I gave up some depth to get another top WR.

To add to this- what would y'alls thoughts be on trading something like Vincent Jackson+ for Darren McFadden, I need to get as much talent on my starting roster as possible (this is a total points league that runs through week 17). McFadden will be out a couple of weeks, but if I could get another top end RB by top 5 (RB,RB,WR,WR,Flex) would be amazing, and set for the year. With Tolbert as my emergency flex/rb

[PurdueBrad]

Ronnie and Julio, thanks a ton!

[Vince, Pt. II]

So I can't decide between Rivers vs Oakland tonight or Ryan vs the Saints. The turnovers by Rivers have been killing me, and if a tired Oakland defense gets gashed by the running game again, he may not even have to throw. Thoughts?

[rowech]

So my team is now 5-5. This is where it is...

QB -- Cutler
RB -- Turner/Benson
WR -- Graham, Gates, Colston, Andre Johnson (start 3 of those)

Which of the WR's would you trade for Brees or Brady? Any the guy wants?

[RainMaker]

I'm in a keeper league where you're allowed to keep up to 2 players. But you're only allowed to keep them for 2 seasons.

Anyways, is Demarco Murray a potential keeper? I already have Arian Foster locked up for another year. My current team is right on the cusp of the playoffs but I'm total shit at WR and defense. But I have 3 solid backs (no flex) and can only start two. With only a couple weeks till the playoffs, the depth doesn't mean much to me. So I either want to trade Murray or Turner. Turner seems more reliable on a weekly basis but I just can't figure out if Murray is someone who will be a top 10 pick next year or not.

[Travis]

Murray could be at a sell high point. I'm going off what I've read/heard but he has the injury stigma but more important to me (as a guy who has Murray and Felix in multiple leagues) is how Dallas splits things once Felix is back.

If both have injury issues then you'll see stretches where each will be the primary guy so if one gets hot then he'll be 1A until he's hurt, then the other guy steps up and so on. Saw some stats today that showed that Felix actually outperformed Murray through their first 100 career carries (though it took Felix nearly twice as many games to hit that mark).

All of my trade deadlines are past but given the choice between Murray and Turner and your keeper rules I'd probably try to cash in on the buzz on Murray right now and let his new owner worry about how the carries will be split once Felix is good to go again. Might be missing out on a fantastic talent but should also be able to get something pretty good in return for him too.

[rowech]

We had the following trade vetoed in our league:

Andre Johnson for Drew Brees

The league starts 1 QB and 3 WRs.

The team trading Drew Brees also has Tom Brady. Has since the draft thanks to autodraft. His starting WRs are Brandon Marshall, Jason Witten, and Tony Gonazlez. Their record is 6-3-1.

The team trading Andre Johnson has Cutler as their QB and has Gates, Jimmy Graham, and Marques Colston as their WRs. Their record is 5-5.

Andre Johnson is obviously coming off an injury, both Brees and Johnson would miss this week because of a bye. So the trade is essentially for two regular season weeks plus the playoffs if either team makes it. Team 1 would right now, team 2 would not.

There are obviously issues with Andre Johnson coming off injury and Leinart as his QB now but should this trade have been vetoed?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by rowech

There are obviously issues with Andre Johnson coming off injury and Leinart as his QB now but should this trade have been vetoed?

No. Seems fine to me.

[Scoobz0202]

Yea, absolutely no reason it should be vetoed.

In our league, trades are only vetoed if there is an obvious attempt to disrupt the integrity of the league. Even if a trade is fairly lopsided as long as it isn't some form of collusion then it's fine. You shouldn't be punished for taking advantage of a dumb ass.

And that trade isn't even too lopsided. And it makes sense for both teams.

[Doug5984]

No veto- the guy with Brees & Brady has to trade one (should've a while back) and can only take the best offer he is give.

[rowech]

I know fantasy sports vetoes bring out the worst in us but I'm beside myself over this one. I'm absolutely livid over having this trade vetoed. Can't fathom any possible way even with the injury and Leinart QBing, this trade was vetoed.

[RainMaker]

My theory is that trades should only be vetoed if collusion is suspected. Can't veto every trade you don't think is perfectly fair.

[MikeVic]

Would you chance it with McGahee as your RB2 this week or grab some scrub off waivers? I need to decide before tonight, and my other RBs are on bye or injured... by scrub, I do mean scrub. Jacquizz Rodgers, Kevin Smith, Joe McKnight... literally guys like that.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

McGahee, but just watch for an inactive.

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Would you chance it with McGahee as your RB2 this week or grab some scrub off waivers? I need to decide before tonight, and my other RBs are on bye or injured... by scrub, I do mean scrub. Jacquizz Rodgers, Kevin Smith, Joe McKnight... literally guys like that.

Can you wait until closer to game time to try to get the most up-to-date knowledge. I would go with McGahee if he looks like he might even just split time with Ball because you know he'll still get a lot of looks with the Wing T offense. But, if he's looking like he might be emergency, Rodgers might not be a bad pickup.

[MikeVic]

Yeah I'll be checking at 7ish to see if a solid decision has been made... Wasn't sure if leaving McGahee there "just in case" would be a better move than picking up any of the scrubs that might get me a point or two.