Can a FEMALE child molester ever be called "hot"?

[Franklinnoble]

must... not... post... stripper... in... patriotic... bikini... pix....

[DanGarion]

Back from the dead!

http://www.abcactionnews.com/stories...30lafave.shtml

[rkmsuf]

Isn't insanity some kind of prerequesite for this type of crime anyway?

[Surtt]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

This is another example of the pervasiveness of internet porn into the minds of the young.

There is NO WAY, at age 13, that ANYTHING, I repeat, ANYTHING, could have diverted my attention from a stripper who had started, or was about to start, dancing in front of me.

I assume he didn't notice what she was doing from the neck up.

[Senator]

This thread brings a tear to my eye........... In a good way.

[Franklinnoble]

I'm no lawyer, but I think the insanity defense is a pretty good idea here.

She's a pretty girl, and the jury will probably be sympathetic if she plays the victim here.

[rkmsuf]

We should be hearing about this fellow in the near future

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

We should be hearing about this fellow in the near future

Why? You think he is hot?

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Why? You think he is hot?

You ever wear a Spoongbob suit? Let me tell you, it's poon city baby.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I'm no lawyer, but I think the insanity defense is a pretty good idea here.

She's a pretty girl, and the jury will probably be sympathetic if she plays the victim here.

Purely speculative, but I'm betting she knew that having sex with a 14 year old was wrong. In fact it is entirely why she did it. But, let's not argue about that. You're probably right in the fact that every man on the jury will be very sympathetic since all they'll be thinking about is wishing they could have doinked her when they were 14.

Crazy + hot = off the 1-10 scale.

[SunDancer]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

You ever wear a Spoongbob suit? Let me tell you, it's poon city baby.

ok......

[Franklinnoble]

I think Debra LaFave would improve her insanity defense greatly if she appeared in court in nothing but a SpongeBob suit.

[duckman]

I would prefer naked.

[Franklinnoble]

Now there are phone tapes... can video be far behind?

Police release FL teacher-sex phone tapes

Police released audio tapes Thursday of phone calls between a teacher and a 14-year-old student she is accused of raping.

In the calls, Debra LaFave speaks with the boy about the affair they were allegedly having and the student expresses concerns that the middle school teacher might be pregnant. Police were also releasing DNA evidence as part of the public record of the case.'

LaFave, speaking in a childish voice, asks the boy, "Are you OK?" The victim says, "I'm a little worried." Most of the victim's portion of the tape is inaudible, but a discussion about condom use follows.

Toward the end, LaFave tells the student, "I don't want you lying to your mom" and then asks him to make a "pinky promise." LaFave repeats her request and the boy agrees and after being asked, says, "Pinky promise."

Mike Sinacor, the prosecutor in the case, told FOX News that the calls — said to be made by the boy at the request of authorities probing the allegations — could be useful in determining LaFave's state of mind. LaFave is expected to use the insanity defense when the case goes to trial in April.

Her attorney said that two doctors have evaluated the 24-year-old over the past several months and have also examined medical records.

Attorney John Fitzgibbons said she had some "profound emotional issues that are not her fault."

LaFave was arrested in June on charges of committing lewd or lascivious battery on a person younger than 16. She faces similar charges in Marion County.

LaFave has been suspended from her teaching job and her husband filed for divorce in August.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Police were also releasing DNA evidence as part of the public record of the case.

Ewwwww.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

LaFave, speaking in a childish voice

Mmmmmmmm

[Desnudo]

Not precisely on topic, but what the hey:

For pics:

http://www.boston.com/

Article:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas..._playoff_game/

[rkmsuf]

Did anyone hear the phone tapes? They were strangely arousing.

"pinky promise"

[Franklinnoble]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Did anyone hear the phone tapes? They were strangely arousing.

"pinky promise"

I heard part of them on the radio this morning.

It was surreal. I felt like I knew her or something.

Anyhow, here's another story from the NY Post:

December 3, 2004 -- The seductive Florida schoolteacher who allegedly stole the innocence of a 14-year-old male student had a sexy part-time job - as a motorcycle-straddling bikini model.

Enticing educator Debra Lafave, 24, graced several pages of a 1999 issue of Models & Makes Magazine, where she was seen mounting a bike in little more than her birthday suit and posing suggestively in fishnet stockings.

The pics steamed up the Internet yesterday, just as officials prosecuting the sex case against her released hundreds of discovery documents. They include transcripts of police surveillance tapes and the written statement of the 14-year-old boy Lafave allegedly seduced.

According to police and the charging document, the Temple Terrace, Fla., middle-school student got to know Lafave after a young friend told him that there was a "hot teacher" who liked him.

The pair eventually hooked up and had sex several times in June, in a portable classroom and in the back of her SUV while his older cousin drove, according to officials.

In his statement - which is written in the childish scrawl of a young teen - the victim revealed how he became entangled in an affair with the comely teacher.

"She told me that she had feeling for me," he wrote. "She told me that she was thinking about me a lot and had feeling for me [and] she didn't know what to do with them.

"We did not have sex until Monday June 14," he added. "On Monday she asked me to help her clean out her portable [classroom at the school]. We had sex for he first time."

One charging document released yesterday described their first encounter. It said Lafave approached the boy as he sat on a couch that decorated her portable classroom.

Wearing terry-cloth pants and thong panties, the married Lafave allegedly sidled up next to him and asked him if he wanted to have sex. The 14-year-old told her that he did.

But that was only the beginning of the seduction.

"While he was sitting on the couch, she straddled him, facing and asked him if he was sure," said the document, produced by the Marion County, Fla., Sheriff's Department.

"He said yes."

After that, the pair had subsequent relations, and the teen believed that Lafave had real feelings for him.

She drove him to basketball games and even gave him a keepsake key chain that had a pewter butterfly pendant similar to her belly-button ring. It was inscribed with the word "Hope" on the back.

The pair's final liaison came on June 17, when the boy and Lafave allegedly drove halfway across the state to Ocala, Fla., where they picked up the student's 15-year-old cousin.

"My cousin drove us around again and again we had sex," he wrote. The sex was in the back of the suspect's SUV, authorities said.

The abbreviated affair ended when the boy's aunt spotted him in Ocala and told his mother.

When his mother asked him what he was doing so far from home, he revealed the whole sordid story, according to a police report released yesterday.

Police later recorded the teen talking to the teacher over the phone. In one, the boy told her that he was worried because he had not used a condom during their alleged encounters.

"Like, I don't want you to, like, get pregnant or anything," he said, according to the transcript. "I was just thinking about it, and I was just thinking if next time, now that we've had sex about three times, if I should use, like, a condom or something?"

The accused pedophile pedagogue dismissed the boy's condom concerns, saying, "Oh, you're being weird."

Lafave has pleaded not guilty to the charges. Her lawyer told a Tampa court on Tuesday that he plans to use in insanity defense.

[rkmsuf]

That damn aunt

[Desnudo]

The "accused pedophile pedagogue" is a fantastic nickname.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

That damn aunt

It sounds like that kid panicked. You could think of a million excuses to be far from home. I was kidnapped by hobos, went for a walk, was having sex with a prostitute. Anything besides telling them you're having sex with your teacher.

His parents probably didn't even believe him at first.

"What were you doing in Ocala?"

"Having sex with my teacher."

"No really, what were you, kidnapped by hobos or something?"

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

The "accused pedophile pedagogue" is a fantastic nickname.

I liked the "Enticing educator"

[JAG]

"Like, I don't want you to, like, get pregnant or anything," he said, according to the transcript. "I was just thinking about it, and I was just thinking if next time, now that we've had sex about three times, if I should use, like, a condom or something?"

The accused pedophile pedagogue dismissed the boy's condom concerns, saying, "Oh, you're being weird."

Platinum.

[Franklinnoble]

It gets better....

http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/...enlafave.shtml
This story has recent photos... text below:

Planned insanity defense surprises Debra Lafave's husband
an ABC Action News report 12/01/04
previous story: Former teacher to use insanity plea against charges of sex with student (11/30/04)

TAMPA - Debra Lafave's plans to use an insanity defense against charges that she had a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old student caught a lot of people off-guard, but perhaps none more so than her soon-to-be ex-husband.

Action News reporter Sarina Fazan sat down with Owen Lafave to watch footage of Debra's first court appearance in months, and it didn't take long for Owen to notice significant changes in her.

"She looks terrible. She's definitely put on, probably, a good 15 pounds. Look at her eyes, she has dark circles under her eyes. She looks genuinely frightened there," he said as he watched the tape.

Owen believes Debra was coached to be more conservative. Tuesday's look was a drastic change from when the former Greco Middle School teacher was first arrested in June.

"Her hair is shorter, she does has bangs, she's wearing less makeup. I think she looks younger," Owen continued. "She doesn't look well. She looks stressed out, like maybe the ramifications of the whole thing have taken a toll on her physically."

Debra's dramatic eye shadow and bright red lipstick were gone, and a small gold crucifix hung around her neck.

"After this happened, she really turned to God. She became very involved in the Bible and Christian book stores, as well as more symbolic gestures, like the cross she is wearing," Owen said.

Owen had dated Debra since he was in college. So did he see anything unusual then, or when he was married to her?

"There was some behavior that was speculative. We went through a rough patch, a period of time and she was treated for depression as well as some eating disorders. She had sought help, saw a psychologist, was on some medication," Owen recalled. "So there were some patterns, but nothing to the extent that she was capable of what she was charged with. I would never have married her if I thought that was the case."

Owen had not spoken with Debra in months, so he said it was "hard to say" if Debra really is insane, as her defense would indicate. Nonetheless, the tactic caught him off guard.

"I was very surprised that was the direction they decided to take with the defense. Honestly I had thought in the back of my mind that they would have reached plea agreement of some sort. I'm not sure that it's the best strategy to take; I think it's risky," Owen offered. "I know it's a very difficult position to defend. As well, I know [Debra's attorney] John Fitzgibbons represented a doctor that killed his wife in Plant City in front of his children, and that was unsuccessful. I'm not expert, but I don't feel like this would be the best strategy to take."

As more evidence is released, Owen said it will be difficult for him to hear more details, and he does not plan to attend the trial.

Debra, he added, has yet to sign the final divorce papers.

[Franklinnoble]

Twisted... unrelated......

Police say South Haven teacher 'wed' 14-year-old girl in pagan ritual


Associated Press

SOUTH HAVEN, Mich. — A teacher and a 14-year-old former female student whom she is accused of sexually assaulting participated in witchcraft together and even "wed" in a pagan ritual, police said.

Elizabeth Miklosovic, 36, a teacher at South Haven's Baseline Middle School, was arraigned Thursday on a charge of first-degree criminal sexual conduct in Van Buren County.

If convicted, Miklosovic faces a maximum sentence of life in prison. She was ordered held on $100,000 bond and remained in the county jail Friday.

Also Thursday, the Kent County prosecutor's office issued arrest warrants for Miklosovic on charges of first- and second-degree criminal sexual conduct that accuse her of performing illegal sex acts with the student at the teacher's Grand Rapids home.

Miklosovic lives with another woman and their adopted son, authorities said.

The student told a classmate about the relationship and the classmate told school officials, who placed the seventh-grade language arts teacher on leave from her job. Miklosovic has worked for South Haven Public Schools for three years.

The student told Michigan State Police that she and Miklosovic had about five sexual encounters from June to October in the teacher's home, a park in Van Buren County and a state park in Manistee County.

Although the girl was in Miklosovic's class in the past, the sexual contact did not occur until this year, authorities said.

Miklosovic has no previous criminal record in Michigan, state police records show.

She declined to answer reporters' questions after her arraignment.

James Becker has been appointed as Miklosovic's attorney. Contacted Friday at his Paw Paw law office, Becker declined to comment about the case, saying he had not yet seen the police report.

The girl's family said Miklosovic brainwashed the girl into thinking the two did nothing wrong. A relative told The Grand Rapids Press that the family initially believed Miklosovic's interest in the girl — who was described as vulnerable and as having emotional problems — was to help her.

Detective Sgt. Diane Oppenheim of the state police post in South Haven said the student came to trust the teacher so much, she agreed to "marry" the woman in a pagan ritual.

"They also participated in witchcraft together," Oppenheim said.

Her preliminary examination on the Van Buren County charge is scheduled for Dec. 13.

[rkmsuf]

*Pic from above intentionally omitted*

[Franklinnoble]

We're not the only ones watching this story....
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/12/16/Hi...ot_Googl.shtml

Sex scandal hot Google topic
By SHANNON COLAVECCHIO-VAN SICKLER and CHRISTOPHER GOFFARD
Published December 16, 2004

Debra Lafave's arrest on charges she had sex with a 14-year-old student happened six months ago, but national interest in the pretty teacher's case is far from lukewarm.

According to Google.com, which ranks the most-used search terms on its Web site under a feature called Google Zeitgeist, the first week in December was a hot one for Lafave, 24.

The search term "Debra Lafave" ranked No. 6 among the top 10 gaining queries on Google for the week ending Dec. 6.

That was the week Lafave's attorney announced he will pursue an insanity defense, and the week prosecutors released a stack of incriminating evidence against Lafave.

According to the Zeitgeist poll, Lafave fell below longtime Jeopardy! champ "Ken Jennings," but ranked higher than college football coach "Urban Meyer," who that same week made headlines for taking the University of Florida football coaching job.

Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised, given the tabloid-style interest in Lafave's case.

After all, one Web site, Not Safe for Work News, took the time to examine what Lafave would look like with a different chin.

No one did that for Jeopardy! winner Ken Jennings. At least not according to a Google search.

[rkmsuf]

this place is trend setting

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

this place is trend setting

Any new pics you'd care to share with us?

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Any new pics you'd care to share with us?

Let's link! Who's with me?



What can I say...I trusted my fellow human not to put an f-u pic of that nature associtated with something harmless.

People. Can't stand em.

I hate the internets.

[robbgmaier]

I have some sad news to report. It appears the two links in post #1 of this thread no longer work. I am quite sad.

[Tekneek]

I ignored this thread because of the title...I thought nothing interesting could be in here, because when I think of "child molester" I certainly do not think of a teenage boy getting it on with a hot teacher. After finding out about this through a google search today, I thought I'd do a search here...and voila...

That kid did not deserve the attention he was getting. He cooperated with the investigation? He was too young. She should've gone for 16+.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by robbgmaier

I have some sad news to report. It appears the two links in post #1 of this thread no longer work. I am quite sad.

Not to worry:

hxxp://www.jake25.com/Pictures/DebraLaFave/lafave_debra_bike6.html

[Senator]

I don't think so young thread! No falling behind the other threads. Pick it up!

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Not to worry:

hxxp://www.jake25.com/Pictures/DebraLaFave/lafave_debra_bike6.html

She looks alot hotter when shes not all dolled up. Shes very pretty without all the makeup and crap. When shes got it caked on and vamped up she looks like every other chick.

[Franklinnoble]

School's out for the holidays... not much opportunities for the kiddies to be porking their teachers.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

School's out for the holidays... not much opportunities for the kiddies to be porking their teachers.

I would think otherwise. We always had final exams shortly after the holiday break, so this would be a prime time to have a special study session with that teacher who is also on a holiday break from school...

[rkmsuf]

Female volleyball coach charged with having sex with player

(Published Wednesday, January 5, 2005 09:49:36 AM CST)

Associated Press

RACINE, Wis. - A 22-year-old woman who was coach of a private volleyball club has been charged with having sex with one of her 16-year-old male players.

Jennifer L. Bradley of Caledonia made her initial appearance Tuesday in Racine County Circuit Court on a felony charge of sexual assault of a student by an instructional staff member and five misdemeanors.

The criminal complaint said Bradley and the boy had a sexual relationship between June 12 and Sept. 4 while she coached a private club named Next Level Volleyball for which he played.

Bradley was hired in August as an assistant girls volleyball coach at Case High School, where the boy attends school and plays volleyball.

She was suspended in September after the allegations surfaced, and has since resigned her school position, said Linda Flashinski, a spokeswoman for the Racine Unified School District.

The boy allegedly told a sheriff's investigator that he had had sex with Bradley about five or 10 times.

His mother has said her son's grades dropped from A's and B's to D's and F's and he has run away from home at least three times since being confronted about the relationship, according to the complaint.

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MIJB#19 ?

[Suicane75]

I wonder whats more emotionaly disturbing,
1) Being 16 and banging a hot 22 year old.
2) Being 16 and having the hot 22 year old chick you're banging get arrested cause your mom finds out and calls the cops, turning it into a big brewhaha and cutting off your supply of primo poontang.

[cuervo72]

Five or ten times? I think I'd have known the exact number of times (and settings, positions...).

[Tekneek]

This seems to happen to the wrong people. They don't seem to properly appreciate what they have had.

[korme]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I wonder whats more emotionaly disturbing,
1) Being 16 and banging a hot 22 year old.
2) Being 16 and having the hot 22 year old chick you're banging get arrested cause your mom finds out and calls the cops, turning it into a big brewhaha and cutting off your supply of primo poontang.

How is either emotionally disturbing? I'd be in the money in #1 (back if I were 16), and then if 2 happened, fuck it, you already hit it, and hell she's going to jail, but deep down inside, do you really care? she was just a sport (in this case, literally) fuck anyway.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I wonder whats more emotionaly disturbing,
1) Being 16 and banging a hot 22 year old.
2) Being 16 and having the hot 22 year old chick you're banging get arrested cause your mom finds out and calls the cops, turning it into a big brewhaha and cutting off your supply of primo poontang.

22 and 16 is borderline, but acceptable in my books.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

How is either emotionally disturbing? I'd be in the money in #1 (back if I were 16), and then if 2 happened, fuck it, you already hit it, and hell she's going to jail, but deep down inside, do you really care? she was just a sport (in this case, literally) fuck anyway.

My point was that this kid have everything a 16 year old wants, he's banging a hot, 22 year old teacher, the dude was having a fine time and life was good.

Now his girl is in jail, his name is all over the papers and his mom is the one causing it all, I would be super pissed. Its no wonder his grades are failing, he had something we all wish for and he got it ripped away from him.

My point is that #2 is alot worse on this dudes psyche than #1 ever will be, no matter what the law thinks.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

22 and 16 is borderline, but acceptable in my books.

I was halfway through my 22nd year and my girlfriend had just turned 17 (it was like a week after her birthday) when we first started dating.

Her parents are just now beginning to trust me, five years later...

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

22 and 16 is borderline, but acceptable in my books.

If they had not met at school, perhaps (although I am sure others disagree with you). In the context of how they met, its a huge no-no. Many people turn 18 during their senior years in high school, yet it would be inappropraite for the new 23-24 yo teachers to sleep with those students.

[GrantDawg]

I heard this on the radio this morning and knew this thread would be up to date by the time I got home.

[Franklinnoble]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

I was halfway through my 22nd year and my girlfriend had just turned 17 (it was like a week after her birthday) when we first started dating.

Her parents are just now beginning to trust me, five years later...

JeeberD is a child molester.

And he's been called "hot" in one of the picture threads.

Case closed.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Samdari

If they had not met at school, perhaps (although I am sure others disagree with you). In the context of how they met, its a huge no-no. Many people turn 18 during their senior years in high school, yet it would be inappropraite for the new 23-24 yo teachers to sleep with those students.

What about older, more mature 28-35 year old teachers?