The 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver/Whistler - Page 12

dawgfan · 02-20-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

he actually has a point.

Not really. As Lysacek points out, if it's all about the jumps then just have a jumping competition. It's about all the things that make up skating - jumps, spins, footwork, and wide range of artistic elements.

And to be clear, Plushenko landed all of his jumps, but many of them were wobbly and he barely pulled them out, whereas Lysacek's jumps were not only all landed, virtually all of them were nearly flawlessly executed.

BishopMVP · 02-20-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

No clue, personally. It sounds like a crazier idea. As for whether it's safer or not, I have no idea.

SI

Granted I've never done it at Olympic speeds, but I wager it's safer because you can see where you're going and adjust course/slow down by dragging your feet more easily. And in the event of something going wrong you can much more easily tuck and protect your head/neck/spine. (Of course, I have a scar on my chin from 30 stitches received when I was tubing headfirst, so maybe my theories are wrong.)

BishopMVP · 02-20-2010, 05:10 PM

btw, does anyone get MSNBC in HD yet? Can I bitch at Comcast for having to watch USA-Canada in non-HD, or is NBC/Universal really dumb enough not to put marquee hockey games on a channel like USA or Universal that people get in HD?

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 05:15 PM

I'm watching Norway-Switzerland on MSNBC HD right now. Sounds like a Comcast problem.

whomario · 02-20-2010, 05:21 PM

valid points, but you also have a worse balance, one on the course because you have more of the body weight being up front, two on the luge itself because of your legs being bottomside up and being draged upwards by the powers in the course and third because you have to steer by shifting your body more actively.
Steering a luge is way "easier" than steering a skeleton-sled.

Plus the things under the skeleton vehicle (seriously blanking here) aren´t as "pointy" as under a luge, much less traction on the ice and thus much tougher to maintain a steady ride.

All in all skeleton is much more shaky than luge. But yeah, obviously can´t be as dangerous as it looks but youve got to admit that it really seems very wrong to go head first

"slowing down" is kind of a relative thing when it goes from 145 to 130 kph by dragging your feet

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-20-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

btw, does anyone get MSNBC in HD yet? Can I bitch at Comcast for having to watch USA-Canada in non-HD, or is NBC/Universal really dumb enough not to put marquee hockey games on a channel like USA or Universal that people get in HD?

Yep, have it in HD on Time Warner.

RainMaker · 02-20-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

btw, does anyone get MSNBC in HD yet? Can I bitch at Comcast for having to watch USA-Canada in non-HD, or is NBC/Universal really dumb enough not to put marquee hockey games on a channel like USA or Universal that people get in HD?

I don't get MSNBC in HD either. Not sure it's even shot in that.

mauchow · 02-20-2010, 07:42 PM

During the 9th end McCormick choked, yet again, Britain couldn't come up with the big shot to close out the game in the 10th.. They had a 5-4 lead with the hammer against the US and the US came away with a point. Great stuff.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-20-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

btw, does anyone get MSNBC in HD yet?

Has been since last June.

from the wiki
MSNBC HD is a 1080i high definition simulcast of MSNBC that launched on June 29, 2009. All live programing as well as select long form programs air in HD.[35]

Cablevision was the only provider to carry MSNBC HD at its launch date.[36]

A Dish Network press release on May 8 indicated that it would be the first satellite service to launch MSNBC HD in June.[37] However their launch was postponed to July 8.[38]

Time Warner Cable launched the HD feed on July 22 in the New York area.[38] The feed was made available in late July in Ithaca, NY on Time Warner. It has also been reported that Bright House Networks will add the HD feed in July, with other unnamed providers to follow.[39] Phil Griffin claimed MSNBC HD would have 11 million viewers by the end of August 2009.[39]

Verizon FiOS added MSNBC HD on February 11, 2010.[40]

mauchow · 02-20-2010, 07:57 PM

The US without the hammer in 10th and 11th ends comes through with the win. McCormick with a big shot in the 11st to redeem herself from the 9th.

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 07:59 PM

my brother has declared that him and his friend will be on the US curling team in Sochi. They're going to go sign up and start learning at the club two towns over.

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 08:12 PM

USA curling on a roll, men and women have each won two straight. Shame about the horrific start though. I think the problem is that it's all Northerners competing. Get some rinks built in other parts of the country and we'll start medaling in this sport consistently.

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

USA curling on a roll, men and women have each won two straight. Shame about the horrific start though. I think the problem is that it's all Northerners competing. Get some rinks built in other parts of the country and we'll start medaling in this sport consistently.

mauchow · 02-20-2010, 08:34 PM

One addition to watching Curling on TV that would be awesome, imo would be a speed measurement and time measurement on every shot.

It's amazing to watch some of these shots go for so long so slow all because of sweepers and then it would be interesting to see how fast the take out shots are.

I think it would add a little bit more to the experience.

MIJB#19 · 02-20-2010, 09:13 PM

Mark Tuitert! Well worth staying up until 3:00 am!

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Mark Tuitert! Well worth staying up until 3:00 am!

Tuitert was an absolute beast.

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 10:35 PM

Celski DQ'd in the short track semi, looked like the Canadian dude made contact first and was behind Celski. Oh well. C'mon Ohno.

sterlingice · 02-20-2010, 10:38 PM

Wow- that second semifinal was awesome

SI

sterlingice · 02-20-2010, 11:08 PM

This is such a sad little second final.

SI

Eaglesfan27 · 02-20-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

This is such a sad little second final.

SI

Yup. However, this race should be exciting.

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 11:16 PM

Would have been nice to see the women's 1500m short track, an eight person final sounds nuts. NBC with their "there's a short delay on the track" bullshit :/

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 11:19 PM

Only a bronze for Ohno, damn Canadian knocked him off his balance when he made his move.

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Would have been nice to see the women's 1500m short track, an eight person final sounds nuts. NBC with their "there's a short delay on the track" bullshit :/

lol

Eaglesfan27 · 02-20-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Would have been nice to see the women's 1500m short track, an eight person final sounds nuts. NBC with their "there's a short delay on the track" bullshit :/

My DVR schedule says that race was already planned for the late night coverage tonight. I imagine it'll be shown in about 40 minutes at the beginning of that coverage.

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

lol

It's a fucking disgrace. I've always thought Bob Costas was an obnoxious piece of shit and a Yankees homer, to flat out lie to the entire country and say there's some kind of delay when in actuality there's a medal event going on in an exciting sport is bad even for him.

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

My DVR schedule says that race was always planned for the late night coverage tonight. I imagine it'll be shown in about 40 minutes at the beginning of that coverage.

Well at least we'll get to see it, I don't see why they couldn't have showed it when it happened, and I don't see why Costas felt the need to lie to everyone.

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 11:25 PM

what a great interview by ohno...what a classy guy

sterlingice · 02-20-2010, 11:26 PM

So what's up? They let it run and didn't show it live?

SI

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

It's a fucking disgrace. I've always thought Bob Costas was an obnoxious piece of shit and a Yankees homer, to flat out lie to the entire country and say there's some kind of delay when in actuality there's a medal event going on in an exciting sport is bad even for him.

Well at least we'll get to see it, I don't see why they couldn't have showed it when it happened, and I don't see why Costas felt the need to lie to everyone.

oh i agree. i wasn't laughing at you...just laughing at the absurdity of it.

they could say "oh the women's final is going on now...tune in late-night or set your dvr to watch it later" - but they're so like...bullshitty that they don't

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Well at least we'll get to see it, I don't see why they couldn't have showed it when it happened, and I don't see why Costas felt the need to lie to everyone.

because we have to show it all the tape-delayed shit and the human interest bullshit

Scoobz0202 · 02-20-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Only a bronze for Ohno, damn Canadian knocked him off his balance when he made his move.

After watching the replay I don't think the Canadian really didn't anything. He had his hand on him but I don't think he knocked him off balance. It didn't really look like he pushed him at all...

DaddyTorgo · 02-20-2010, 11:33 PM

yeah - even ohno says he just slipped a little

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 11:43 PM

Ohno is just being diplomatic unlike Russian figure skaters and Korean speed skaters. Maybe.

Tigercat · 02-20-2010, 11:50 PM

You can't look at the video and not think that the hand had something to do with the slip, the slip was right after. Now maybe it wasn't much of a push, and Ohno should have done a better job of weathering it. But regardless, pisses me off that he got in on the finals on a BS review after riding the back of a skater, and helped cost another skater a better medal by pulling the same contact.

Big Fo · 02-20-2010, 11:51 PM

Damn, they showed an earlier curling shot made by Murdoch for the Brits against Canada, a difficult double deflection that finished on the button and scored them three points. So awesome.

Why is this sport so great? Maybe it's because I like playing shuffleboard at the bar and this is kind of like a giant version of that, except this is far more complicated and there's Olympic gold and petty nationalism involved. I'm becoming obsessed I think. I don't know what I'm going to do when the games are over, four more years until I get to see more curling sounds like a terrible wait.

Big Fo · 02-21-2010, 12:19 AM

You know, if Canada and Norway keep winning while everyone else stays clumped in the middle, the US men just might have a shot at the curling semifinals. Switzerland and Sweden are currently winning, that won't help at all though...

The women are only half a game out after winning two straight. This rollercoaster ain't stopping for awhile.

Galaril · 02-21-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Only a bronze for Ohno, damn Canadian knocked him off his balance when he made his move.

God damn is Ohno over rated. I mean he has got the press over the last two olympics, but the Koreans have owned his ass. I do not even remember him beating these guys ever other than the one last olympics that was controversial DQ'dS on the Koreans. It pisses me off now I have to listen to Mrs Galaril bragging about the South Koreans kicking Americas ass in short track again. Yes, we will argue about short track for nationalities sake.

Logan · 02-21-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Damn, they showed an earlier curling shot made by Murdoch for the Brits against Canada, a difficult double deflection that finished on the button and scored them three points. So awesome.

Why is this sport so great? Maybe it's because I like playing shuffleboard at the bar and this is kind of like a giant version of that, except this is far more complicated and there's Olympic gold and petty nationalism involved. I'm becoming obsessed I think. I don't know what I'm going to do when the games are over, four more years until I get to see more curling sounds like a terrible wait.

I think the throws and the strategy are pretty interesting. My issue with curling revolves 100% around the time of it. It just seems like there's way too much time between shots, and then there's too many throws and ends. Speed it up and I'd be able to sit through it all, instead of turning over to "Almost Famous" on TBS and missing the end of the USA-SWE match like I did today.

Fidatelo · 02-21-2010, 01:00 AM

Curling is about 100 times more fun to play than it is to watch. Once I get too old for more active sports I'll probably end up back in curling (I curled for 6 or 7 years as a youth). But watching it can be painful. I always liked it better when there were 8 ends, 10 seems unnecessary.

Logan · 02-21-2010, 01:12 AM

Okay, if a Canuck understands where I'm coming from, I think I'm on the right page.

Belarus up 2-1 on Germany...

sterlingice · 02-21-2010, 05:10 AM

Curling seems to be filling my winter fix for a slow moving leisurely sport (read: baseball substitute).

SI

Chief Rum · 02-21-2010, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Curling seems to be filling my winter fix for a slow moving leisurely sport (read: baseball substitute).

SI

No need for a baseball substitute. Pitchers and catchers have reported, my friend!

Lathum · 02-21-2010, 12:14 PM

I wonder if a pro curling league would make it in the US with a few tweaks, shot clock, etc...

probably not.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-21-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No need for a baseball substitute. Pitchers and catchers have reported, my friend!

That's not baseball. That's a bunch of guys just throwing a ball around. Call me when somebody has a bat!

Lathum · 02-21-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

God damn is Ohno over rated. I mean he has got the press over the last two olympics, but the Koreans have owned his ass. I do not even remember him beating these guys ever other than the one last olympics that was controversial DQ'dS on the Koreans. It pisses me off now I have to listen to Mrs Galaril bragging about the South Koreans kicking Americas ass in short track again. Yes, we will argue about short track for nationalities sake.

Hard to say a guy who has 7 medals is overrated

DaddyTorgo · 02-21-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Hard to say a guy who has 7 medals is overrated

seriously. short-track speedskating is just such an unpredictable competition, where in any given race the fastest skater can win, or potentially not win. not like long-track where they race the clock, it's more tactics-driven and you've got the whole concept of passing and bumping while you're on these razor-blade thin skate edges.

sterlingice · 02-21-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

No need for a baseball substitute. Pitchers and catchers have reported, my friend!

I know, but it's not like I can watch it yet.

SI

Galaril · 02-21-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Hard to say a guy who has 7 medals is overrated

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

seriously. short-track speedskating is just such an unpredictable competition, where in any given race the fastest skater can win, or potentially not win. not like long-track where they race the clock, it's more tactics-driven and you've got the whole concept of passing and bumping while you're on these razor-blade thin skate edges.

Overated in that of those 7 medals he's got 2 gold only and really one was not earned but given by the judges who DQ'd the winning skater for a blocking call that even I as a USA fan thought was BS. In this olympics his silver medal was just luck when the Koreans fell. I know short track is strategy and bursts of speed but look at the Korean guy this time Jung-Su Lee he has two golds to Ohno's silver and bronze. It is great he is in the Olympics and earning medals but celebrating the boat load of non golds is like Vikings or Bills fans celebrating being in four-five Super Bowls but never winning.

sterlingice · 02-21-2010, 02:28 PM

Go Slovakia! (Biathalon)

SI

Lathum · 02-21-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Overated in that of those 7 medals he's got 2 gold only and really one was not earned but given by the judges who DQ'd the winning skater for a blocking call that even I as a USA fan thought was BS. In this olympics his silver medal was just luck when the Koreans fell. I know short track is strategy and bursts of speed but look at the Korean guy this time Jung-Su Lee he has two golds to Ohno's silver and bronze. It is great he is in the Olympics and earning medals but celebrating the boat load of non golds is like Vikings or Bills fans celebrating being in four-five Super Bowls but never winning.

This just makes me shake my head.

I guess we just have a different concept of what the olympics mean.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-21-2010, 02:51 PM

Only about 10 more minutes to go.. hopefully, the game isn't a blowout.

02-20-2010, 05:10 PM	#553
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	btw, does anyone get MSNBC in HD yet? Can I bitch at Comcast for having to watch USA-Canada in non-HD, or is NBC/Universal really dumb enough not to put marquee hockey games on a channel like USA or Universal that people get in HD? Last edited by BishopMVP : 02-20-2010 at 05:11 PM.

02-20-2010, 05:21 PM	#555
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	valid points, but you also have a worse balance, one on the course because you have more of the body weight being up front, two on the luge itself because of your legs being bottomside up and being draged upwards by the powers in the course and third because you have to steer by shifting your body more actively. Steering a luge is way "easier" than steering a skeleton-sled. Plus the things under the skeleton vehicle (seriously blanking here) aren´t as "pointy" as under a luge, much less traction on the ice and thus much tougher to maintain a steady ride. All in all skeleton is much more shaky than luge. But yeah, obviously can´t be as dangerous as it looks but youve got to admit that it really seems very wrong to go head first "slowing down" is kind of a relative thing when it goes from 145 to 130 kph by dragging your feet Last edited by whomario : 02-20-2010 at 05:26 PM.

02-20-2010, 07:59 PM	#561
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	my brother has declared that him and his friend will be on the US curling team in Sochi. They're going to go sign up and start learning at the club two towns over. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

02-20-2010, 09:13 PM	#565
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Mark Tuitert! Well worth staying up until 3:00 am! __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

02-20-2010, 10:38 PM	#568
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wow- that second semifinal was awesome SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-20-2010, 05:15 PM	#554
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I'm watching Norway-Switzerland on MSNBC HD right now. Sounds like a Comcast problem.

02-20-2010, 07:42 PM	#558
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	During the 9th end McCormick choked, yet again, Britain couldn't come up with the big shot to close out the game in the 10th.. They had a 5-4 lead with the hammer against the US and the US came away with a point. Great stuff.

02-20-2010, 07:57 PM	#560
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	The US without the hammer in 10th and 11th ends comes through with the win. McCormick with a big shot in the 11st to redeem herself from the 9th.

02-20-2010, 08:12 PM	#562
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	USA curling on a roll, men and women have each won two straight. Shame about the horrific start though. I think the problem is that it's all Northerners competing. Get some rinks built in other parts of the country and we'll start medaling in this sport consistently.

02-20-2010, 08:34 PM	#564
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	One addition to watching Curling on TV that would be awesome, imo would be a speed measurement and time measurement on every shot. It's amazing to watch some of these shots go for so long so slow all because of sweepers and then it would be interesting to see how fast the take out shots are. I think it would add a little bit more to the experience.

02-20-2010, 10:35 PM	#567
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Celski DQ'd in the short track semi, looked like the Canadian dude made contact first and was behind Celski. Oh well. C'mon Ohno.

02-20-2010, 11:08 PM	#569
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	This is such a sad little second final. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-20-2010, 11:16 PM	#571
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Would have been nice to see the women's 1500m short track, an eight person final sounds nuts. NBC with their "there's a short delay on the track" bullshit :/

02-20-2010, 11:19 PM	#572
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Only a bronze for Ohno, damn Canadian knocked him off his balance when he made his move.

02-20-2010, 11:25 PM	#576
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	what a great interview by ohno...what a classy guy __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

02-20-2010, 11:26 PM	#577
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	So what's up? They let it run and didn't show it live? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-20-2010, 11:33 PM	#581
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yeah - even ohno says he just slipped a little __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

02-20-2010, 11:43 PM	#582
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Ohno is just being diplomatic unlike Russian figure skaters and Korean speed skaters. Maybe.

02-20-2010, 11:50 PM	#583
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	You can't look at the video and not think that the hand had something to do with the slip, the slip was right after. Now maybe it wasn't much of a push, and Ohno should have done a better job of weathering it. But regardless, pisses me off that he got in on the finals on a BS review after riding the back of a skater, and helped cost another skater a better medal by pulling the same contact.

02-20-2010, 11:51 PM	#584
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Damn, they showed an earlier curling shot made by Murdoch for the Brits against Canada, a difficult double deflection that finished on the button and scored them three points. So awesome. Why is this sport so great? Maybe it's because I like playing shuffleboard at the bar and this is kind of like a giant version of that, except this is far more complicated and there's Olympic gold and petty nationalism involved. I'm becoming obsessed I think. I don't know what I'm going to do when the games are over, four more years until I get to see more curling sounds like a terrible wait.

02-21-2010, 12:19 AM	#585
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	You know, if Canada and Norway keep winning while everyone else stays clumped in the middle, the US men just might have a shot at the curling semifinals. Switzerland and Sweden are currently winning, that won't help at all though... The women are only half a game out after winning two straight. This rollercoaster ain't stopping for awhile.

02-21-2010, 01:00 AM	#588
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Curling is about 100 times more fun to play than it is to watch. Once I get too old for more active sports I'll probably end up back in curling (I curled for 6 or 7 years as a youth). But watching it can be painful. I always liked it better when there were 8 ends, 10 seems unnecessary. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

02-21-2010, 01:12 AM	#589
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Okay, if a Canuck understands where I'm coming from, I think I'm on the right page. Belarus up 2-1 on Germany...

02-21-2010, 05:10 AM	#590
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Curling seems to be filling my winter fix for a slow moving leisurely sport (read: baseball substitute). SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-21-2010, 12:14 PM	#592
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I wonder if a pro curling league would make it in the US with a few tweaks, shot clock, etc... probably not.

02-21-2010, 02:28 PM	#598
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Go Slovakia! (Biathalon) SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-21-2010, 02:51 PM	#600
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