Werewolf CXXIX - Doctor Who and his Trusty Yak - WOLVES WIN

[thejuggler3]

Sorry, Eaglefan. Confusing by choice, so not really up to giving out details. I'm hoping the wolves do what I want next. We'll have to see if they do.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by thejuggler3

Sorry, Eaglefan. Confusing by choice, so not really up to giving out details. I'm hoping the wolves do what I want next. We'll have to see if they do.

Fair enough.

[EagleFan]

I think I see what is going on, but we'll talk after the game about that (or after it happens).

On a different note...

Yeah Baby!!! Joe Blanton!!!!

[mauchow]

If you're not the leading vote getter I don't see the logic in revealing until you're fully in danger. But you're confident about something that we don't know about so if your reveal doesn't really hurt you then okay, good reveal I guess.

My vote wasn't going to go for Juggler anyway; I felt better about him than I did Autumn. As mentioned yesterday I'd have liked to go towards DV based on feeling but it doesn't look like anybody else feels the same way, so that's okay.

If other people wanted to join me in getting a new target with Autumn (since it seems we need to let juggler free for now) I'm all for that. I personally have gotten odd vibes from Darth and Chief Rum this whole game so far. We'll have to move quickly to start a run elsewhere; but I know for now I'm not hopping on Autumn's bandwagon to go on a run against Lathum.. but I won't rule him out either...just not going for him tonight.

If my vote has to be Autumn to make sure it's not Juggler then that's what I'll do.

[mauchow]

time ancient

[Autumn]

I know I'm a bad vote, and I know there's 4-5 good votes out there. I wouldn't go Chief Rum at this point. I'd rather go Mauboy (sorry), Mckerney or J23 before Darth, but he's an option too. And Lathum of course. That's my list at the moment.

[Autumn]

In my defense, I think it's usually a bad idea to go after people because they were vote getters the day before. That's what the seer is for. It's better to pick a new pair or triplet every day and increase our chances of having a wolf in the vote. There's a very good chance the seer would have scanned me last night, so it's kind of a waste to go back there the very next day.

[mauchow]

If you're a basic villager what are your extra roles that you have if you haven't already told us and I missed it?

[Zinto]

I am not really gung-ho on going for Autumn or Lathum tonight since they are one of the few players that have been consistently talking through out the game.

[JAG]

Vote Ancient

Based on juggler's info.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Autumn

In my defense, I think it's usually a bad idea to go after people because they were vote getters the day before. That's what the seer is for. It's better to pick a new pair or triplet every day and increase our chances of having a wolf in the vote. There's a very good chance the seer would have scanned me last night, so it's kind of a waste to go back there the very next day.

Here's the problem with that line of thinking. How do we know the seer didn't scan you and is one of the ones voting you?

I think it looks like you've been setup but on the bright side, if that is true we could learn something by finding that out. Or better yet, we find out that you're a wolf and we learn even more.

[dwardzala]

Do we have a full time seer role in the game? The doctor may have seer abilities, but Jack didn't and the companion doesn't either.

All other roles have powers only in their home era.

[Autumn]

Well, I had hoped to avoid this, but seems best to give us some time to change the vote.

I am The Doctor, the first and clearly the best. Among my powers I am a seer. Here is who I have scanned:

Night 1 - Modern Era - Saldana
Night 2 - Modern Era - dwardzala
Night 3 - Medieval Era - Chief Rum

All three came back as human. If you'd like to confirm my reveal, if you look back through my posts you'll see hints of each scan after the night phase.

I believe Juggler's reveal, and so I want to give us time to move off of the two of us. I would rather the wolves attempt to night kill me, than to have me lynched with my info hinted at but murky.

[Autumn]

Saldana and Dwardzala could still be bad, either the Master or the Cyberman.

Chief Rum could only be the Master if he was bad.

But it makes sense to not vote them at this point. In addition I feel good about JAG and Zinto at this point, as well as The juggler and won't be voting there tonight.

To me, that leaves J23 and Lathum as CF voters that I still suspect (though there might be cunning wolves there as well).

In non-CF voters, Mauboy and Mckerney have drawn my eye the most.

[EagleFan]

Why the specific scan choices? Why not scan Lathum, as you have been going after him?

[JAG]

That makes sense as I was wondering why you were so lukewarm on saldana and CR.

[dwardzala]

Works for me

Unvote Autumn
Vote Lathum

[Autumn]

I've only been on Lathum today, really. My plan was to vote Lathum, scan juggler. For the most part I'd rather scan the quieter folk - I feel like the players that particiapte a lot we can catch through their participation.

But mostly the scans were because of a series of suspicions based on day 1 activity. I suspected bhlloy was a wolf, and it seemed like Saldana and Dwardzala were steering the vote from him. Chief was also acting strangely it seemed to me. Saldana I still suspect might be a cunning, but there's not much I can do about that.

[thejuggler3]

Okay, anyone want to contest the doctor. Keep in mind, even if this is a last ditch from Autumn to find the doctor and you open yourself to a NK, unlike usual WW games, the doctor will regenerate, so we don't lose the role, and we get a lot of info.

I'm processing this, but I want to give time for a contesting of the reveal. Going back to look over results in case nobody contests this.

[JAG]

Vote mckerney

Theoretically I would rather vote a CF voter, but in my opinion he gives us our best chance to lynch a wolf and I don't want to botch tonight.

[mauchow]

That makes things interesting for the remainder of the night.

I'd still like to look at DV possibly if CR is out of the question (and none of the list is, as mentioned..).

[JAG]

Autumn, did you do the time shift D2?

[Autumn]

I'm not sold on Lathum - his activity in thread has been just Lathum-ish. I suspect he would have gone after me if he was a villager.

However, I suspect the wolves killed Narcizo because he and I were the two to post right before CW processed the night activities on night 2 (with the crazy short day). It was clear that CW was waiting for someone, and shortly after we posted, the night was processed. I suspect the wolves therefore might have been behind early votes on me and Narcizo on Day 3, guessing that one of us was the seer.

So I guess that suggests Darth or Lathum, based on that theory.

[Autumn]

No, I didn't JAG.

[mauchow]

Also, we need to see movement quickly. I'm hesitant to go Lathum but if that's what we need to do to save Autumn, I'll do it. Anybody we go after has the potential of not being able to defend themselves and losing a major role.

If we continue going after Autumn, we find out for sure that he's truly the Doctor and he respawns anyway... I'm still not voting for Autumn.

[Autumn]

Scanned: Could only be cunning
Saldana
Chief Rum
Dwardzala

Claims Role, Uncontested
thejuggler
Autumn

The Rest
Lathum
JAG
Zinto
Mckerney
Mauboy1
J23
EagleFan
Darth Vilus
Dubb93
Tyketime

[thejuggler3]

I am just thinking, with the doctor regeneration ability, there is no reason if someone wants to contest Autumn, for them to not step forward... unless they are not online.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm not sold on Lathum - his activity in thread has been just Lathum-ish. I suspect he would have gone after me if he was a villager.

However, I suspect the wolves killed Narcizo because he and I were the two to post right before CW processed the night activities on night 2 (with the crazy short day). It was clear that CW was waiting for someone, and shortly after we posted, the night was processed. I suspect the wolves therefore might have been behind early votes on me and Narcizo on Day 3, guessing that one of us was the seer.

So I guess that suggests Darth or Lathum, based on that theory.

I'd lean Darth before Lathum, for sure. I've had a weird feeling on him. I'll see if I can find what I mean; but in the mean time, hopefully we can make a vote swing if that's what everyone feels necessary.

vote darth vilus

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Autumn

However, I suspect the wolves killed Narcizo because he and I were the two to post right before CW processed the night activities on night 2 (with the crazy short day). It was clear that CW was waiting for someone, and shortly after we posted, the night was processed. I suspect the wolves therefore might have been behind early votes on me and Narcizo on Day 3, guessing that one of us was the seer.

So I guess that suggests Darth or Lathum, based on that theory.

Hmm, interesting. I thought they might've gone for him because he was so gung ho to go to the Ancient era, but your thought is probably more accurate.

[EagleFan]

unvote thejuggler

vote darth vilus

[Autumn]

4 Autumn - Juggler (464), mckerney (505), lathum (534), chief rum (537)
4 thejuggler - darth vilus (506), tyketime (530), eaglefan (538), dubb (539)
1 eaglefan - J23 (497)
2 Lathum - Autumn (520), dwardzala (567)
1 mauboy - Zinto (527)
1 mckerney - JAG (570)
1 darth vilus - mauboy (578)

[thejuggler3]

What is the current vote count anyway?

[Lathum]

unvote Autumn
Vote Darth

Not sure I buy Autumns reveal, but I'll certainly give him the day to let someone who may be offline to claim that role.

FWIW I am assuming he will scan me tonight, which is fine by me

[Autumn]

I feel comfortable following JAG, as I feel good about him.

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE MCKERNEY

[thejuggler3]

nevermind... gah.... would hate to be suckered by a fake reveal.

[JAG]

mckerney was very locked into Autumn, that's quite damning if what Autumn is saying is true.

[Autumn]

3 Autumn - Juggler (464), mckerney (505), chief rum (537)
3 thejuggler - darth vilus (506), tyketime (530), dubb (539)
1 eaglefan - J23 (497)
2 Lathum - Autumn (520), dwardzala (567)
1 mauboy - Zinto (527)
2 mckerney - JAG (570), autumn (584)
3 darth vilus - mauboy (578), eaglefan (580), lathum (583)

[Autumn]

Frankly, all those Darth voters are people I suspect, so I'm interested in that movement.

[Coffee Warlord]

Back, but eating - results will very likely be a little bit late tonight.

[mckerney]

Unvote Autumn
Vote Darth Vilus

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Yeah Baby!!! Joe Blanton!!!!

IKE DAVIS!!!

[JAG]

Darth was not locked into Autumn so that vote doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He's playing his normal game. Of course not surprisingly I feel bad about the people who jumped to him.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Frankly, all those Darth voters are people I suspect, so I'm interested in that movement.

Well I'm certainly not going to follow you onto myself!

[Autumn]

JAG, will you be around until deadline?

[Autumn]

I'm not on you, Lathum. Which the multiple vote counts would show you.

[dwardzala]

Unvote Lathum
Vote Darth Villius

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by JAG

mckerney was very locked into Autumn, that's quite damning if what Autumn is saying is true.

I wasn't so much locked into him as nothing else was jumping out on me for anyone else. It made sense to me that a wolf would make a quick vote and time change if they'd found the body guard. It would be well worth the risk of putting someone out there. Autumn surviving the lynch vote with another villager going didn't change my opinion on him.

[Zinto]

I have had a good feeling about Autumn this whole game and I am not going to jump off that at this point.

Unvote Mau
Vote Mckerney

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Autumn

JAG, will you be around until deadline?

Nsure, at some point I have to drive my daughter home from swim class, I thought it should have ended already though.

[Autumn]

Oops, my bad Lathum, I see I left my vote in both places in the count.